Re: [Mailman-Users] help setting up mailing list

2001-12-29 Thread C. Bensend


On Sun, 30 Dec 2001, Justin Zygmont wrote:

> I am having difficulty getting a mailing list to work, when I create a new
> list, it doesn't send a message to me (root) telling me which page to to
> go or how to subscribe.  I don't think this is a permission problem but
> bin/check_perms will not run correctly from any directory.

If check_perms doesn't run correctly, how are you sure it's not
a permissions problem?

What directory are you trying to run check_perms from?

What are the permissions on ~mailman/bin/check_perms?

What error messages do you get when you try to run check_perms?

What does /var/log/maillog say about things?

> Does anyone know why I wouldn't recieve a message when I create a new
> list?  I see that the mailman logs say failure but doesn't say why and
> var/log/messages doesn't report anything.

What do the various log files in ~mailman/logs say?

Toss us a bone here - we're not mindreaders.  :)  We need
some more information to try to help.

Benny


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Postfix

2001-12-29 Thread Dan Wilder

What possible relationship would there be between Postfix and Front 
Page Extensions???!!!???

Aside from the usual problems entailed in converting from one MTA to
another (i.e., learning how to port any local peculiarities in setup
and config from sendmail to Postfix), I for one would not forsee
any peculiarities.  1000 recipients should be well within reach of default
configuration with Postfix.

One caveat: if the box is really limited and you are relying on it to
deliver other mail in a timely manner, you may see delays of other mail,
especially if very many list recipients require multiple attempts before
delivery is successful.

On Sat, Dec 29, 2001 at 09:01:04AM -0600, mel wrote:
> Ok Mailmanners; I have one server that is running 14 list and these list are
> getting bigger by the hour. This is a physically hosted box and is a bit shy
> on horsepower. Currently running sendmail 8.10 and I can already foresee
> problems when the list reach the 1000 mark. I am considering Postfix, but this
> box has Front Page extensions installed. Has anyone else attemped such a deal
> and what are
> the problems I am looking at.
>   Mel
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[Mailman-Users] help setting up mailing list

2001-12-29 Thread Justin Zygmont

I sent a message with no responses so i'll try agian.

I am having difficulty getting a mailing list to work, when I create a new
list, it doesn't send a message to me (root) telling me which page to to
go or how to subscribe.  I don't think this is a permission problem but
bin/check_perms will not run correctly from any directory.

Does anyone know why I wouldn't recieve a message when I create a new
list?  I see that the mailman logs say failure but doesn't say why and
var/log/messages doesn't report anything.

thanks..






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Re: [Mailman-Users] Problems with undeliverable mail

2001-12-29 Thread Michelle Brownsworth

>On Thu, 27 Dec 2001 14:06:53 -0800
>Michelle Brownsworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>  My mailhost is chugging away, trying over and over to deliver to a
>>  large batch of addresses with a .gov domain that doesn't resolve;
>>  this particular .gov nameserver is obviously having problems.  And
>>  it's not from the sendmail's mail queue; /var/spool/mqueue/ is
>>  completely empty.  It's Mailman reattempting to send to the
>>  problem addresses. 
>
>Configure your MTA to not do DNS verifies on deliveries from
>localhost.
>
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But since none of the subscribers are local, I don't see how that 
will help in this situation.  And as I said, the batch of reattempts 
didn't seem to be coming from sendmail's mail queue.  The only 
explanation is that Mailman must have a means of keeping track of 
failed deliveries.

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[Mailman-Users] Password for posting to announce-only list

2001-12-29 Thread Anand Desai

Hi,

I'm new to this list, so I apologize if my question appeared soon 
before, but I didn't see it in the archives.

I'm setting up an announce-only Mailman list for a weekly newsletter 
with about 1200 members, so it's very important that no unauthorized 
users can post. Is there a way to configure Mailman to require a 
password for posting? I'm worried that a fake message appearing to 
come from the address of an authorized poster would be sent to the 
list.

Ideally I would like to have several addresses from which messages 
could be posted with a password or some other means of 
authentication. If messages can be posted from the Web interface with 
a password, that would be OK as well.

Thanks in advance!

--Anand Desai

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Re: [Mailman-Users] list server and mailman

2001-12-29 Thread J C Lawrence

On Sat, 29 Dec 2001 08:40:11 -0800 
Joe Wise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Is there anyone using mailman as a list-server who can help a
> newbie?  I am a physics teacher at a school in Santa Monica and I
> want to have my class on a list.

Sure, what do you need?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] email looping - autoresponders - how to stop it?

2001-12-29 Thread Norbert Bollow

Marc Perkel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Yes - but - I'm about to dump 20,000 names into a list and there are probably
> a LOT of broken autoresponders out there.
> 
> > Please share the specifics of the loop.
> 
> I think the issue is that I dumped the names into the join box and it sent an
> initial message from "list-admin" and the autoresponder is replying to
> list-admin.

You could change the list-admin alias to deliver to a mailbox,
then add those 20,000 new subscribers, then wait a day or so,
then change the list-admin alias back.

Greetings, Norbert.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] email looping - autoresponders - how to stop it?

2001-12-29 Thread Marc Perkel



Norbert Bollow wrote:

> > I have a problem. I created a list and dumped a bunch of emails into it.
> > It sent an initial message to everyone - but one person is on vacation
> > and the autoresponder responded. Now Mailman  and the Autoresponder are
> > sending messages back and forth.
> >
> > How do I make mailman ignore autoresponders?
>
> Only broken autoresponders are a problem, as the others will
> ignore Mailman.
>

Yes - but - I'm about to dump 20,000 names into a list and there are probably
a LOT of broken autoresponders out there.

> Please share the specifics of the loop.

I think the issue is that I dumped the names into the join box and it sent an
initial message from "list-admin" and the autoresponder is replying to
list-admin.

>
> Does the list do Reply-To: munging?
>

No

>
> Does the broken autoresponder put some header into its messages
> which makes it possible to unambiguously recognize them as coming
> from a robot?
>

I think it's a dumb responder.


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[Mailman-Users] Mailman doesn't understand email address details?

2001-12-29 Thread Skip Montanaro


I started experimenting with Jason Mastaler's TMDA spam fighting tool a few
days ago.  It allows you to generate time-sensitive reply addresses in
outgoing mail like [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Many MTAs
support the use of such "detail" information.  I discovered that Mailman
doesn't, however.  This makes it impossible to use dated addresses with
closed mailing lists.  Any chance that Mailman will recognize such addresses
in the future?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] list-serve

2001-12-29 Thread David Gibbs

At 11:09 AM 12/29/2001, Joe Wise wrote:
>I thought so.  Here goes.  I set up a new list and it sends me a
>confirmation e-mail that I have a new list set up.  I go to the website to
>configure my list as the administrator.  I then try to join my list.  I get
>an e-mail saying that I have to respond in order for my request to be
>validated.  I resspond and get a mail daemon saying that the user is not
>known.

Question the first: What version of Mailman are you using?

Question the second: Did you register the aliases for the list with your 
mail server?

david





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[Mailman-Users] list-serve

2001-12-29 Thread Joe Wise

I thought so.  Here goes.  I set up a new list and it sends me a
confirmation e-mail that I have a new list set up.  I go to the website to
configure my list as the administrator.  I then try to join my list.  I get
an e-mail saying that I have to respond in order for my request to be
validated.  I resspond and get a mail daemon saying that the user is not
known.

Any help?

Joe


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Re: [Mailman-Users] list server and mailman

2001-12-29 Thread David Gibbs

At 10:40 AM 12/29/2001, Joe Wise wrote:
>Is there anyone using mailman as a list-server who can help a newbie?  I am
>a physics teacher at a school in Santa Monica and I want to have my class on
>a list.

Not to be too obvious, but just about everyone here is using mailman as a 
listserv ... and we're here to help newbies :)

Post your question and I'd wager someone can help.

david



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[Mailman-Users] list server and mailman

2001-12-29 Thread Joe Wise

Is there anyone using mailman as a list-server who can help a newbie?  I am
a physics teacher at a school in Santa Monica and I want to have my class on
a list.

Thanks,

[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Re: [Mailman-Users] email looping - autoresponders - how to stop it?

2001-12-29 Thread Paul Tomblin

Quoting Norbert Bollow ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> Only broken autoresponders are a problem, as the others will
> ignore Mailman.

Unfortunately, people insist on using that festering stink-hole of
security violations known as Outhouse Excess, and the autoresponder on it
is as broken as the rest of it.  I've had to kick three people off my
lists over the holidays because of these stupid "I'm out of the office"
messages.

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[Mailman-Users] Postfix

2001-12-29 Thread mel

Ok Mailmanners; I have one server that is running 14 list and these list are
getting bigger by the hour. This is a physically hosted box and is a bit shy
on horsepower. Currently running sendmail 8.10 and I can already foresee
problems when the list reach the 1000 mark. I am considering Postfix, but this
box has Front Page extensions installed. Has anyone else attemped such a deal
and what are
the problems I am looking at.
Mel
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Re: [Mailman-Users] email looping - autoresponders - how to stop it?

2001-12-29 Thread Norbert Bollow

> I have a problem. I created a list and dumped a bunch of emails into it.
> It sent an initial message to everyone - but one person is on vacation
> and the autoresponder responded. Now Mailman  and the Autoresponder are
> sending messages back and forth.
> 
> How do I make mailman ignore autoresponders?

Only broken autoresponders are a problem, as the others will
ignore Mailman.

Please share the specifics of the loop.

Does the list do Reply-To: munging?

Does the broken autoresponder put some header into its messages
which makes it possible to unambiguously recognize them as coming
from a robot?

Greetings, Norbert.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman not sending out mail

2001-12-29 Thread Marc MERLIN

On Thu, Dec 27, 2001 at 10:42:55AM -0800, Michelle Brownsworth wrote:
> >Yes, actually, I had a very similar problem to this on my system, that all
> >the configuring of sendmail short of making it an open relay could not fix.
> >I eventually switched to postfix and I havent had a single problem since.
> >
> >-Richard Idalski
> 
> 
> Okay, given that a slew of messages are undeliverable due to domain 
> resolution problems, which Mailman nevertheless keeps trying to 
> deliver, apparently clogging things up, how do I clear them out? 
> Delete all files from the qfiles directory again?  Also, I don't 
> believe Mailman processed the entire list, since my address was in 
> the list and I haven't received the post yet.

Your problem is sendmail, not mailman. Mailman gave batches of addresses to
sendmail, sendmail is chocking on them.

Like others, I have solved the problem by not using sendmail anymore (exim
in my case)

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