Re: [Mailman-Users] 16JFqa-0000bA-00 <> *** frozen ***

2002-01-04 Thread Nigel Metheringham

On Fri, 2002-01-04 at 07:28, Pieter Boshoff wrote:
> please can anybody explain this message to me. I use Mailman version 2.0.1
> and Exim as my MTA.
> when I run the command mailq I get the following:
> 
> 30m  2.5K 16MNzN-0004Ri-00 <> *** frozen ***
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Exim by default freezes (ie stops attempting delivery but leaves on
queue) undeliverable bounce messages.

The message there is a bounce message (ie from <>), so its likely that
the address [EMAIL PROTECTED] is undeliverable in some
way (or was at the time of the freeze).   

Most likely reason for this is someone sending a message to an unknown
user of yours from an undeliverable sender address - bounce message
cannot then be delivered.  In this case the address looks as though its
one of your Mailman admin addresses so probably failed for a different
reason.

Suggest you check through your exim logs for 16MNzN-0004Ri-00 - you
should also be able to discover the message log entries fro the message
that generated the bounce.

Try using 
exim -d5 -bt [EMAIL PROTECTED]

to find out if that address can be resolved, and to hopefully give hints
as to whats wrong.  [First guess, look at permissions on your alias
files]

Nigel.

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[Mailman-Users] Premature End of Headers

2002-01-04 Thread Scott Rogers



All,
 
 
I have Mailman installed and working ( for nine 
months now ).  Yesterday I rebooted my server for the first time in four 
months.  Today, Mailman works (send mail) but the Admin interface 
doesn't.  
 
I receive 'Internal 
Server Error' in the browser window.
in httpd/error.log I receive the 'Premature end of headers' 
error, 
I recieve no error in syslog (messages) or maillog.  

 
I can force the GID error to show up in maillog by executing 
mailman/cgi-bin/admin from the command line, but I don't get that when visiting 
the admin page from the browser.
 
Help?
 
Thank you,
 
Scott Rogers
 
BTW, the list server is running at www.highcountryrugby.com
 
 
 


[Mailman-Users] My mailman installation is Erractic

2002-01-04 Thread Ganesh HariHaran

Hello!!

I use mailman 2.0.6 

with sendmail 8.9 and apache 1.3.12 on redhat 6.2

I have 3 lists...on it on a valid domain and static ip/


but this mailman is erratic... where it doesnt posts mails to its
subscribers constantly...


i have to remore the crontab.in file and add it again ,

i have kill the qrunner process and delete all files under
/home/mailman/locks directory..

My sendmail is working fine as my regular mails are working fine..

how to solve this from once and for all..

thanks in advance
rgds

Ganeshh 





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Re: [Mailman-Users] Premature End of Headers

2002-01-04 Thread Skip Montanaro


Scott> I have Mailman installed and working ( for nine months now ).
Scott> Yesterday I rebooted my server for the first time in four months.
Scott> Today, Mailman works (send mail) but the Admin interface doesn't.

Scott> I receive 'Internal Server Error' in the browser window.
Scott> in httpd/error.log I receive the 'Premature end of headers' error, 
Scott> I recieve no error in syslog (messages) or maillog.  

What's the full traceback?  It should be in error.log and will probably help
pinpoint the source of the problem.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Premature End of Headers

2002-01-04 Thread Scott Rogers

Here's the kicker...

If I change the apache user to allow me to su to it from root, then execute
the /home/mailman/cgi-bin/admin program, it works fine and outputs HTML.

If I excecute it as another user, I get the following message in my
/var/log/messages file: Jan  4 09:54:49 dot Mailman cgi-wrapper (admin):
Failure to exec script. WANTED gid 48, GOT gid 501.  (Reconfigure to take
501?)

Where 46 = GID of apache .

Thanks...

- Original Message -
From: "Skip Montanaro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Scott Rogers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 11:28 AM
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Premature End of Headers


>
> Scott> I have Mailman installed and working ( for nine months now ).
> Scott> Yesterday I rebooted my server for the first time in four
months.
> Scott> Today, Mailman works (send mail) but the Admin interface
doesn't.
>
> Scott> I receive 'Internal Server Error' in the browser window.
> Scott> in httpd/error.log I receive the 'Premature end of headers'
error,
> Scott> I recieve no error in syslog (messages) or maillog.
>
> What's the full traceback?  It should be in error.log and will probably
help
> pinpoint the source of the problem.
>
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Premature End of Headers

2002-01-04 Thread Skip Montanaro


Scott> Failure to exec script. WANTED gid 48, GOT gid 501.  (Reconfigure
Scott> to take 501?)

Scott> Where 46 = GID of apache .

Did your apache runtime GID change?  Sounds like Mailman needs to be
reconfigured with the correct --with-* flags and reinstalled.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Premature End of Headers

2002-01-04 Thread Scott Rogers

Skip,

I apologize for the typo in my  last message.  Apache's GID is still 48...
not 46.  Sorry.

Scott

- Original Message -
From: "Skip Montanaro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Scott Rogers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 12:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Premature End of Headers


>
> Scott> Failure to exec script. WANTED gid 48, GOT gid 501.
(Reconfigure
> Scott> to take 501?)
>
> Scott> Where 46 = GID of apache .
>
> Did your apache runtime GID change?  Sounds like Mailman needs to be
> reconfigured with the correct --with-* flags and reinstalled.
>
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[Mailman-Users] Howto? subject and footer change

2002-01-04 Thread Thomas Åhlen

I have just setup a Mailman mailinglist and want to change some things, but
can't find howto.

1. The subject of all messages sent to the list are appended with
[listname]. I don't want that feature, is it possible to remove?

2. I want to change the footer that are appended to all messages. If thats
in a template which template should I change?

Thanks.
Thomas




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Re: [Mailman-Users] Howto? subject and footer change

2002-01-04 Thread Jon Carnes

On Friday 04 January 2002 12:56, Thomas Åhlen wrote:
> I have just setup a Mailman mailinglist and want to change some things,
> but can't find howto.
>
> 1. The subject of all messages sent to the list are appended with
> [listname]. I don't want that feature, is it possible to remove?

Go to the web-admin page for your list.  You change this on the General 
Options page (the first one that pops up).

>
> 2. I want to change the footer that are appended to all messages. If
> thats in a template which template should I change?

Again, look in the web-admin for your list and go to the Regular Member 
Options page.

>
> Thanks.
> Thomas

Welcome.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Premature End of Headers

2002-01-04 Thread Scott Rogers

Thanks to Skip and all of you out there on the list I figured out the
problem.

As it turns out, it was an IE6 'cookie' problem.  While I did not determine
why the error message in Auth.authenticate didn't show up in any log files,
when I deleted all cookies from IE it worked like a champ.

thank you,

Scott Rogers

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From: "Skip Montanaro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Scott Rogers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 12:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Premature End of Headers


>
> Scott> Failure to exec script. WANTED gid 48, GOT gid 501.
(Reconfigure
> Scott> to take 501?)
>
> Scott> Where 46 = GID of apache .
>
> Did your apache runtime GID change?  Sounds like Mailman needs to be
> reconfigured with the correct --with-* flags and reinstalled.
>
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[Mailman-Users] 2.1 functionality

2002-01-04 Thread George Galang


2.1

Just curious if it is possible to add the configuration variables of 
each list, how often a moderator gets notified of administrative 
requests?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] SSL oddity

2002-01-04 Thread Tom Perrine

> On Thu, 03 Jan 2002 22:19:26 -0600, David Gibbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

David> Folks:
David> I've been playing around with using Mailman in a self-signed SSL enabled 
David> Apache server on my RH 7.2 system.

David> Nothing seems to work properly ... the pages display fine, but no input is 
David> processed.

David> It works fine when I use standard web access.

David> Any suggestions?

David> Thanks!

David> david

I've got this working with no problems.  Here are the versions of the
software I'm running:

mailman 2.0.8
sendmail 8.12.0 (plus some patches)
Apache: 1.3.20 (plus some patches)

I'm running the Apache server as nobody, sendmail is set-gid to smmsp
as recomended and mailman has its own account.

Did you check the logs for any error messages?  Did you have a running
SSL server before trying mailman?  Did you check the ownership of the
CGI programs?  Does your SSL server run as the same UID as the regular server?

In general, everything is very vanilla on my systems, modulo lots of
security patches.

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[Mailman-Users] Newbie question - newletter, and importing members?

2002-01-04 Thread James Radke



Hello,
 
I am looking at mailman as one possible solution 
for providing a mailing list for up to 10,000 recipients.  This would be 
for a client who would like to send a newsletter as well as promotional offers 
to their customers.
 
First of all, would mailman be a good selection for 
this functionality?  We would need to:
 
1.) Create a list with members from a file provided 
by the client from their database (Microsoft SQL server database), or in flat 
file format to be imported; and then 
 
2.) Allow only the client to submit "mail" to the 
list?
 
Finally we would need to:
 
3.) Allow the recipients to "opt out" of 
receiving any future mailings via automated e-mail request 
handling?
 
How tough would this be to implement something like 
this?  Is most of this standard usage for this application?
 
Thanks for any and all opinions!
 
Jim 


Re: [Mailman-Users] Mass User Changes

2002-01-04 Thread J C Lawrence

On Thu, 03 Jan 2002 22:51:06 -0700 
Christopher Mende <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I need to switch all the digest users from Mime to Plain. I'd like
> to do that without having to manualy remove and add them.

You'll need to write a short script to hand to with_list to edit the
list database.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] My mailman installation is Erractic

2002-01-04 Thread J C Lawrence

On Fri, 04 Jan 2002 15:47:02 GMT 
Ganesh HariHaran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> but this mailman is erratic... where it doesnt posts mails to its
> subscribers constantly...

What do the logs say?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Howto? subject and footer change

2002-01-04 Thread J C Lawrence

On Fri, 4 Jan 2002 18:56:08 +0100 
thomas  <Åhlen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:

> I have just setup a Mailman mailinglist and want to change some
> things, but can't find howto.

> 1. The subject of all messages sent to the list are appended with
> [listname]. I don't want that feature, is it possible to remove?

> 2. I want to change the footer that are appended to all
> messages. If thats in a template which template should I change?

Both options are present in the list's web administrative interface.

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[Mailman-Users] domain name switch ignored by mailman

2002-01-04 Thread Jason Signalness

Hello,

I recently installed mailman onto a Red Hat 7.1 box running sendmail. 
Mailman works great, except that I have reconfigured it to use the 
cyclend.com domain name as the default.  It was originally set to 
something else.

It seems to ignore this setting and, when emailing outgoing messages 
(like password reminders) it uses the old domain name.  I want to 
abolish this old domain name, but am unsure how to go about doing so.

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

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[Mailman-Users] restricting posts from specific members

2002-01-04 Thread Paul L. Schumacher

Is it possible to restrict posts from some members?

Namely, to prevent [EMAIL PROTECTED] from posting? (yet allow all other
members to post without having to manually approve each post?)

thanks

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[Mailman-Users] RE: Restricting posts from specific members

2002-01-04 Thread Nissley_Ron/EMM


BDY.RTF
Description: RTF file


[Mailman-Users] Lockfile problems

2002-01-04 Thread Andreas Czerniak

Hi,

i use MailMan 2.0.8 and have upgrade from v2.0.6 / v2.0.1 (python v1.5.2) on 
a linux box.

After this upgrade i have heavy problems with locks in mailman/locks
The Webpages can't access all processes are stopped.

In mailman/logs/error can i find following "Delivery exception", but why ?

Thx in advanced for help.

regards,
Andreas.

Jan 04 18:32:48 2002 (28505) Delivery exception:
Jan 04 18:32:48 2002 (28505) Traceback (innermost last):
  File "/usr/local/lib/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/HandlerAPI.py", line 82, in 
do_pipeline
func(mlist, msg, msgdata)
  File "/usr/local/lib/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py", line 77, in 
process
mlist.Lock()
  File "/usr/local/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 1339, in Lock
self.__lock.lock(timeout)
  File "/usr/local/lib/mailman/Mailman/LockFile.py", line 266, in lock
raise AlreadyLockedError
AlreadyLockedError:

Jan 04 18:32:48 2002 qrunner(28505): Traceback (innermost last):
Jan 04 18:32:48 2002 qrunner(28505):   File 
"/usr/local/lib/mailman/cron/qrunner", line 282, in ?
Jan 04 18:32:48 2002 qrunner(28505):  kids = main(lock)
Jan 04 18:32:48 2002 qrunner(28505):   File 
"/usr/local/lib/mailman/cron/qrunner", line 263, in main
Jan 04 18:32:48 2002 qrunner(28505):  mlist.Save()
Jan 04 18:32:48 2002 qrunner(28505):   File 
"/usr/local/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 861, in Save
Jan 04 18:32:48 2002 qrunner(28505):  self.CheckHTMLArchiveDir()
Jan 04 18:32:48 2002 qrunner(28505):   File 
"/usr/local/lib/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py", line 256, in 
CheckHTMLArchiveDir
Jan 04 18:32:48 2002 qrunner(28505):  makelink(privdir, pubdir)
Jan 04 18:32:48 2002 qrunner(28505):   File 
"/usr/local/lib/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py", line 42, in makelink
Jan 04 18:32:48 2002 qrunner(28505):  os.symlink(old, new)
Jan 04 18:32:48 2002 qrunner(28505): OSError :  [Errno 2] No such file or 
directory



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[Mailman-Users] fixing archive

2002-01-04 Thread Jim Gottlieb

Hi.  I'm a recent mailman convert and have my list all up and running.

Now it's on to the details, like why my archive doesn't work.  My
archive directory looks (in part) like:

kxt/2001-December:
total 10
drwxrwsr-x   2 mailman  mailman   512 Dec 31 13:23 ./
drwxrwsr-x   5 mailman  mailman   512 Dec 31 17:11 ../
-rw-rw-r--   1 mailman  mailman  6596 Dec 31 13:23 00.html
lrwxrwxrwx   1 mailman  mailman11 Dec 31 13:23 index.html -> thread.html

so it seems that only the last message is there, presumably because it
kept using 00 as the message number.  There's also no thread.html
file.  I also notice that the error log has entries like:

Jan 04 14:32:02 2002 qrunner(14377): Traceback (innermost last):
Jan 04 14:32:02 2002 qrunner(14377):   File 
"/home/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py", line 221, in ArchiveMail
Jan 04 14:32:03 2002 qrunner(14377): h.processUnixMailbox(f, HyperArch.Article)
Jan 04 14:32:03 2002 qrunner(14377):   File 
"/home/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/pipermail.py", line 528, in processUnixMailbox
Jan 04 14:32:03 2002 qrunner(14377): self.add_article(a)
Jan 04 14:32:03 2002 qrunner(14377):   File 
"/home/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/HyperArch.py", line 931, in add_article
Jan 04 14:32:03 2002 qrunner(14377): self._charsets[cs] = self._charsets.get(cs, 
0) + 1
Jan 04 14:32:03 2002 qrunner(14377): TypeError: unhashable type
Jan 04 14:32:03 2002 (14377) CORRUPT ARCHIVE FOR LIST: kxt

Do I just need to initialize the archive?  How do I do this?  

I do have
27 3 * * * /opt/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/nightly_gzip
running from cron though I don't know if this is related.

Thanks...

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[Mailman-Users] Can't get listinfo to show my lists

2002-01-04 Thread Anibal Jodorcovsky

Hi all,

I just finished installing mailman 2.0.8 under linux redhat 6.2. Great
job at documenting the installation! Not even a glitch!

Now, the internal name of the machine where this system is running is
machinea.domain.com. That name is also accessible through internet, but
we rarely use that name, we use domain.com to relay mail. So, I modified
the list within the admin pages and where it says:

Host name this list prefers

it used to say (by default): machinea.domain.com

and I replaced that by domain.com

Everything works fine. I can subscribe and send email to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and it works fine. However, when I go to the
listinfo page the link to the listname is not there anymore and this
happened when I modified that 'Host name this list prefers' option. 

However, when I go the listinfo page I get a link to 'the list admin
overview page', and if I go there I can see the lists named. Of course,
those links are for the login admin page.

So, the question is: how do I get the lists to show up under listinfo
when I do modify that 'Host name this list prefers' option?

Any pointers will be greatly appreciated,

-Anibal

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[Mailman-Users] Quick Question...

2002-01-04 Thread Edmund H. Baur

Looked over your site and couldn't find an answer...

Is there anyway as a User, which I am to mass-delete everyone from a 
list??? in Version 2.0.8???

, Ed Baur


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[Mailman-Users] trouble with Mailman

2002-01-04 Thread Jocelyn Ruggiero

Hello...I am writing because of a problem I am having with our locone
mailing list.  I am trying to send out a notice to our email list, but when
I submit an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], I do not see it in pending
Administrative requests.  I have done this twice to no avail.  Any
suggestions?

Thanks so Much



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Location One
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Re: [Mailman-Users] My mailman installation is Erractic

2002-01-04 Thread Ganesh HariHaran

I get an constant error in the error log file

as follows

Jan 05 12:26:17 2002 qrunner(17203): Traceback (innermost last):
Jan 05 12:26:17 2002 qrunner(17203):   File 
"/home/mailman/cron/qrunner", line 282, in ?
Jan 05 12:26:17 2002 qrunner(17203):  kids = main(lock)
Jan 05 12:26:17 2002 qrunner(17203):   File 
"/home/mailman/cron/qrunner", line 263, in main
Jan 05 12:26:17 2002 qrunner(17203):  mlist.Save()
Jan 05 12:26:17 2002 qrunner(17203):   File 
"/home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 857, in Save
Jan 05 12:26:17 2002 qrunner(17203):  self.__save(dict)
Jan 05 12:26:17 2002 qrunner(17203):   File 
"/home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 833, in __save
Jan 05 12:26:17 2002 qrunner(17203):  os.link(fname, fname_last)
Jan 05 12:26:17 2002 qrunner(17203): OSError :  [Errno 1] Operation 
not permitted

smtp log

Jan 03 14:55:02 2002 (17486) smtp for 1 recips, completed in 1.122 
seconds
Jan 03 14:55:02 2002 (17486) smtp for 1 recips, completed in 0.047 
seconds
Jan 03 14:55:02 2002 (17486) smtp for 1 recips, completed in 0.154 
seconds
Jan 03 14:55:03 2002 (17486) smtp for 18 recips, completed in 0.258 
seconds
Jan 03 14:56:01 2002 (17557) smtp for 1 recips, completed in 0.042 
second  


qrunner log


Jan 05 12:44:02 2002 (17379) Could not acquire qrunner lock
Jan 05 12:46:04 2002 (17399) Could not acquire qrunner lock
Jan 05 12:47:02 2002 (17438) Could not acquire qrunner lock
Jan 05 12:48:02 2002 (17448) Could not acquire qrunner lock
Jan 05 12:49:02 2002 (17458) Could not acquire qrunner lock   

whats the remedy, how to make mailman stable and running...

please help...

Thanks in advance
Ganeshh 


>> Original Message <<

On 1/5/02, 3:27:48 AM, J C Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote regarding Re: 
[Mailman-Users] My mailman installation is Erractic :


> On Fri, 04 Jan 2002 15:47:02 GMT
> Ganesh HariHaran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > but this mailman is erratic... where it doesnt posts mails to its
> > subscribers constantly...

> What do the logs say?

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> -(*)Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]   He lived as a devil, eh?  
> http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/  Evil is a name of a foeman, as I live.

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