Re: [Mailman-Users] host name
Hi Richard, Thanks for the tip it works great! When receiving mail from the lists,why does the To: header reflect the real host name e.g. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], instead of To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Where lists is the hostname i want to appear. Is it sendmail's masquerading option or mailman's? Richard Barrett wrote: At 20:05 24/01/2002 +0800, you wrote: >I was able to remove the hostname by reconfiguring my sendmail, but the >mailing list mainpage >../mailman/admin/listinfo shows the line "(Send questions and comments to >mailman-owner@cebu.)" >where "cebu" is the host name of my machine, how will I change this to >"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" or >"[EMAIL PROTECTED]"? >I already edited my mm_cfg.py with the line DEFAULT_HOST_NAME=lists but >nothing happened, but it doesnt work?btw the original one in Defaults.py >has the value "cebu". > If you have change the value of DEFAULT_HOST_NAME in $prefix/Mailman/mm_cfg.py then you will also need to add the following line to it AFTER the assignment redefining DEFAULT_HOST_NAME: MAILMAN_OWNER = 'mailman-owner@%s' % DEFAULT_HOST_NAME If you do not, then MAILMAN_OWNER will pick up the 'old' value of DEFAULT_HOST_NAME from $prefix/Mailman/Defaults.py rather than the 'new' value you have assigned in $prefix/Mailman/mm_cfg.py. > > >Richard Barrett wrote: >>At 16:18 24/01/2002 +0800, you wrote: >> >i successfuly setup and configure mailman on my server, but the problem is >> >the return address >> >reflect the host name of my machine instead of the "lists" hostname. I >> >checked my sendmail.cf file >> >but masquerading is on. Is there any way on mailman configuration to >> >correct this? >> > >> >>Assuming MM 2.0.x: >> >>Check the hostname defaults set up in $prefix/Mailman/Defaults.py and >>override those you don't like with revised assignments in >>$prefix/Mailman/mm_cfg.py - see the $build/INSTALL document for more info >>on the rationale for this way of working >> >>For any existing list you can edit (very carefully) the last couple of >>options on the General Options page of the admin web GUI >> >> >-- >> >Lito A. Lampitoc >> >Foundation for Communication >> Initiatives phone:+63(2)8941345 >> >CodeWAN >> >Project >> >http://www.codewan.com.ph>http://www.codewan.com.ph>http://www.codewan >> .com.ph >> >-- >> >"If you think you're good, you're not." >> > > >-- >Lito A. Lampitoc >Foundation for Communication Initiatives phone:+63(2)8941345 >CodeWAN >Project >http://www.codewan.com.ph>http://www.codewan.com.ph >-- >"If you think you're good, you're not." > -- Lito A. Lampitoc Foundation for Communication Initiatives phone:+63(2)8941345 CodeWAN Project http://www.codewan.com.ph -- "If you think you're good, you're not."
[Mailman-Users] Re: Welcome to the Mailman-Users mailing list
Hi. I have just installed mailman on a Linux Redhat 5.2 machine, running multiple virtual hosts. The actual hostname is learn.unisa.ac.za, but I have installed the website, and all other references to lectureweb.unisa.ac.za. The website works fine, and if I subscribe someone through the web interface, It sends them the welcome message. As soon as someone sends a email to my list as list-name@lectureweb.unisa.ac.za or list-name@learn.unisa.ac.za, the server replies to them: Undeliverable: Service unavailable. The maillog shows the following: Jan 25 12:16:22 learn sendmail[18766]: MAA18766: from=[EMAIL PROTECTED], size=1301, class=0, pri=31301, nrcpts=1, msgid=[EMAIL PROTECTED], proto=SMTP, relay=[163.200.216.138] Jan 25 12:16:22 learn smrsh: uid 8: attempt to use wrapper post soldev Jan 25 12:16:22 learn sendmail[18767]: MAA18766: to=|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper post soldev, delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=prog, stat=Service unavailable Jan 25 12:16:22 learn sendmail[18767]: MAA18766: MAA18767: DSN: Service unavailable Jan 25 12:16:22 learn sendmail[18767]: MAA18767: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=esmtp, relay=alpha.unisa.ac.za. [163.200.216.138], stat=Sent (Ok) Can anyone help? Johan van den Berg !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN HTMLHEAD META content=text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 http-equiv=Content-Type META content=MSHTML 5.00.2614.3500 name=GENERATOR/HEAD BODY style=FONT: 8pt MS Sans Serif; MARGIN-LEFT: 2px; MARGIN-TOP: 2px DIVFONT size=1Hi. /FONT/DIV DIVnbsp;/DIV DIVFONT size=1I have just installed mailman on a Linux Redhat 5.2 machine, running multiple virtual hosts./FONT/DIV DIVFONT size=1The actual hostname is learn.unisa.ac.za, but I have installed the website, and all other references to/FONT/DIV DIVFONT size=1lectureweb.unisa.ac.za./FONT/DIV DIVnbsp;/DIV DIVFONT size=1The website works fine, and if I subscribe someone through the web interface, It sends them the welcome message.nbsp; As soon as someone sends a email to my list as lt;list-namegt;@lectureweb.unisa.ac.za or lt;list-namegt;@learn.unisa.ac.za,/FONT/DIV DIVFONT size=1the server replies to them:/FONT/DIV DIVFONT size=1nbsp; /FONT/DIV DIVFONT size=1nbsp; Undeliverable:/FONT/DIV DIVFONT size=1nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; Service unavailable./FONT/DIV DIVnbsp;/DIV DIVFONT size=1The maillog shows the following:/FONT/DIV DIVFONT size=1/FONTnbsp;/DIV DIVFONT size=1Jan 25 12:16:22 learn sendmail[18766]: MAA18766: from=lt;A href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED];[EMAIL PROTECTED]/Agt;, size=1301, class=0, pri=31301, nrcpts=1, msgid=lt;A href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED];[EMAIL PROTECTED]/Agt;, proto=SMTP, relay=[163.200.216.138]BRJan 25 12:16:22 learn smrsh: uid 8: attempt to use wrapper post soldevBRJan 25 12:16:22 learn sendmail[18767]: MAA18766: to=|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper post soldev, delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=prog, stat=Service unavailableBRJan 25 12:16:22 learn sendmail[18767]: MAA18766: MAA18767: DSN: Service unavailableBRJan 25 12:16:22 learn sendmail[18767]: MAA18767: to=lt;A href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED];[EMAIL PROTECTED]/Agt;, delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=esmtp, relay=alpha.unisa.ac.za. [163.200.216.138], stat=Sent (Ok)/FONT/DIV DIVFONT size=1/FONTnbsp;/DIV DIVFONT size=1Can anyone help?/FONT/DIV DIVFONT size=1/FONTnbsp;/DIV DIVFONT size=1Johan van den BergBR/DIV/FONT DIVFONT size=1nbsp; /FONT/DIV/BODY/HTML
RE: [Mailman-Users] Re: Welcome to the Mailman-Users mailing list
Hi Johan, Jan 25 12:16:22 learn sendmail[18766]: MAA18766: from=[EMAIL PROTECTED], size=1301, class=0, pri=31301, nrcpts=1, msgid=[EMAIL PROTECTED], proto=SMTP, relay=[163.200.216.138] Jan 25 12:16:22 learn smrsh: uid 8: attempt to use wrapper post soldev Jan 25 12:16:22 learn sendmail[18767]: MAA18766: to=|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper post soldev, delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=prog, stat=Service unavailable Jan 25 12:16:22 learn sendmail[18767]: MAA18766: MAA18767: DSN: Service unavailable Jan 25 12:16:22 learn sendmail[18767]: MAA18767: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=esmtp, relay=alpha.unisa.ac.za. [163.200.216.138], stat=Sent (Ok) Looks to me that the mailman wrapper could not be called. There are to possibilities: 1. wrapper is not allowed to run from smrsh. There ist a smrsh folder on your system, in /var, /etc or perhaps a different place. The depends on your distribution and I don't know the path for RedHat. Place a symlink to wrapper in the smrsh folder. 2. Sendmail is not setup to use the mailer prog. Reconfigure sendmail to use the mailer prog. Regards Markus -- E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet von unterwegs per Webmail -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] migration of mailing lists
Hello, I would like to migrate some mailman mailing lists to a new computer. The old computer is running mailman 1.1, the new one runs mailman 2.0.8. Does mailman provide a conversion script? What 's the best way to migrate the mailinglists? Thanks for your help, Bert. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] ezmlm to mailman
Does anyone have any tips or general advice in converting a bunch of ezmlm (ezmlm/idx) mailing lists to mailman lists? I don't mind writing a few scripts to make things easier, but if there's a quick way to convert my existing archives and subscription lists (well, that second was is easy), I'd be glad to hear it. -- Jon Parise ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) . Information Technology (2001) http://www.csh.rit.edu/~jon/ : Computer Science House Member -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] hooking up help?
OK, guys, I am a newbie. 2 years, and still haven't got a clue. :) This is RH6.2, Apache 1.3.6-7, python 1.5.2-27.6x. I assume mailman will run on the above. I got it compiled, and installed, and the list-bot is up and happy. He is at [EMAIL PROTECTED] ISSUE: Not enough sense to hook up Apache! Can anyone help? The Apache error logs simply say, file does not exist, for all of the things that should play the pages to the users. What I've done: This Apache is running a lot of CGI's both in Perl and in C, and they work fine, but they are in the docroot tree. I can't make him look outside for stuff. In srm.conf I already had a ScriptAlias, so I made another line, added ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ /home/mailman/cgi-bin/. Is that OK? I see the docs say add Exec, but I don't know where to do that, as I don't seem to have any Exec line in any of the .conf files. Httpd.conf seems concerned with setups and logging, mostly, and access.conf is a null file. Where do I do what to srm.conf to make Apache see where he needs to see? Thank you. Ray -- Ray R. Jones Errors have been made. Others will be blamed. [EMAIL PROTECTED] HTTP://www.raymondjones.net -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] hooking up help?
ray jones wrote: so I made another line, added ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ /home/mailman/cgi-bin/. Is that OK? Yes I see the docs say add Exec, but I don't know where to do that, as I don't seem to have any Exec line in any of the .conf files. That's an Options tag... A typical (customized) setup on my end: ServerAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED] * DocumentRoot /home/mailman/www ServerName lists.domain.net ScriptAlias /mailman/ /home/mailman/cgi-bin/ Alias /pipermail/ /home/mailman/archives/public/ * Alias /icons/ /home/mailman/www/icons/ * Alias /errors/ /home/mailman/www/errors/ Directory /home/mailman/cgi-bin/ Options ExecCGI --- you need this /Directory Directory /home/mailman/archives/public/ Options FollowSymLinks AllowOverride None /Directory * Directory /home/mailman/www/errors/ * Options Includes * /Directory * ErrorDocument 500 /errors/500.shtml * ErrorDocument 404 /errors/404.shtml * ErrorDocument 403 /errors/403.shtml ErrorLog logs/errors_log.lists.domain.net CustomLog logs/access_log.lists.domain.net combined * - custom mods I added -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Since my Host is doing nothing
My web host, Hosting Matters has decided to move many of its' clients to a new server. The result is we are being place onto your service for (at least) mail lists. Maybe you do the whole thing, don't know, don't care. It's the mail list that is my problem. I would prefer, desperately prefer that I not have a link to an alternate web page, one that is not consistent with my own web pages, one that could at any time start advertising. Ads on Freefind, my search engine, caused unbelievable problems for me and is costing me still $300 a year. I have no desire to repeat that. I have no problem crediting the service provider with a logo and link. I did that for Hosting Matters on my own. I have no idea if there is a way to work with you guys in making sure the web page for mail services matches my site, and also affords me control of the content (insofar as advertising). Frankly, I would just as soon continue with the email management style fo the prior service - found on http://www.vienici.com/lasociete/gazette. I've asked for assistance from Hosting Matters, but am not making progress fast. BTW, I am using FP for page development so I truly have limited HTML skills. With time, lots of time, I can adapt to your service. During that time, the current maillist will have to be shut down. Not critical, but embarassing. I had expected better repsonse from my web host, but . . . . Perhaps you can at least make some helpful suggestions for the novice. Brian J. Oster [EMAIL PROTECTED] webmaster http://www.vienici.com -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] MailMan
Hello! I need URGENT aid! I must make a work for class, that consists of the installation and configuration of the MAILMAN in Linux (DEBIAN). We have installed apache and I believe that we have done it well. We have introduced a page done by us instead of the one of Original Apache. Soon we have installed Postfix. And later the MailMan. One assumes that it is installed, but we do not know nothing else. Nor how it is used, nor how the lists are created, nor nothing else. If you could help you to me it would thank for it because I must give it for the week that comes. I wait for your answer shortly. A greeting, ___ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger Comunicación instantánea gratis con tu gente. http://messenger.yahoo.es -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Can admin do this?
We are still discovering the new social world of email lists, and what is needed to maintain respect for all list participants, to receive more or less what they want to, and to be able to manage the email effectively. Here are two questions which you may be able to answer immediately with your existing software, or which may require an upgrade. I and others will greatly appreciate any assistance you can offer. Thanks much for any help, Lloyd Anderson Ecological Linguistics *** An email list that I subscribe to introduced a prefix several years ago, so that any message coming from the list will begin [ANE] ... This is enormously appreciated, as it facilitates sorting messages by their subject lines for finding and filing. However, the automatic operation of this, with, as usual, some less-than-careful users, is strings like this as subjects: [ANE] Re: [ANE] RE: [ANE] Re:Seth animal and ma'at It would be desirable to change it to simply [ANE] Re: Seth animal and ma'at by some string operation which enforces the list name indicator first, in this case [ANE] and that no more than one copy of that occur, and that no more than one Re: occur, and that the Re: occur, if at all, after the list name, so no Re: [ANE] but only [ANE] Re: . Can this be done easily? Could you forward instructions that I can pass on to the list administrator? (That administrator gave me your web site address to follow up on this possibility.) For the future, could you include such a possibility as a single check-box in for list administrators to use, even make it the default operation which a list administrator can turn off if desired? (Thus encouraging all list administrators to choose a two-to-four-letter abbreviation for their list name, with a reminder that each extra letter detracts from the amount of the remaining subject line that users will see.) *** A second question arises on the function of reply to sender vs. reply to all choices, for example in AOL software. Reply to sender should ideally go back to only the one individual sending the message being replied to, it should not go to the list as a whole. The reason is of course that one should have to make a deliberate choice if one is going to burden an entire list with a message, that should not be the default. An error made in sending to only one receiver, when an entire list was desired, is not as serious as an error made in sending to an entire list, when only an individual receiver was desired. Can list administrators affect this in how they set up their list? Can they specify what information goes into which fields of a message header? For example, are there three sets of information in the header (which I as user receive at the end of each message)? (a) original sender, individual (b) list as relayer (kind of sender) (c) list of all recipients Some list adiminstrators believe that this is controlled by email software, not by list administrators. Is this true? What is the default behavior (or unmodifiable behavior) of various email programs? Do they differ much in this? This may be relevant to one of your 'to-do items, as well as to the previous question I was asking. Rather than allowing complete freedom to modify headers etc., which you point out might be dangerous, can you provide particular choices pre-packaged in your next release? Allow admins to control and set individual headers, adding, removing, or overriding those in the original message (sometimes very useful, but could be dangerous!) *** -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] upgrading to python 2.1.2 final.
Hi, I upgraded python on my freebsd 4.3 system from 2.1 to 2.1.2. I was running mailman2.0.7 and 3 fairly low traffic lists. After upgrading python, I noticed that neither posting to lists, or confirming to subscription requests worked. The mail log shows the mail being passed to the wrapper without error, but nothing else happens. In an attempt to fix the problem, I upgraded to mailman 2.0.8, but it didn't fix anything. I also run Zope on my system, and it works fine with the new python 2.1.2 installtion. Any suggestions? terry -- Terry Kerr ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Chief Technical Officer Bizar Software Pty Ltd (www.bizarsoftware.com.au) +61 3 9530 9182 -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Problem running ./configure
Hello everyone, Thanks for you help in advance! I am trying to compile mailman on a SUN Sparc Solaris 7 system. I've created the mailman user and group, also created the destination dir (/usr/local/mailman) and changed permissions as described in INSTALL: % chmod a+rx,g+ws . % ls -ld . drwxrwsr-x 2 mailman mailman 512 Jan 25 19:04 . I now try: ./configure --prefix=/usr/local/mailman --with-cgi-gid=nobody \ --with-mail-gid=mail The command fails at: === CUT HERE === checking for --with-username... mailman checking for mailman UID... Traceback (most recent call last): File conftest.py, line 1, in ? import pwd, string ImportError: ld.so.1: /usr/local/bin/python: fatal: libgcc_s.so.1: open failed: No such file or directory cat: cannot open conftest.out configure: error: * No mailman user found! * Your system must have a mailman user defined * (usually in your /etc/passwd file). Please see the INSTALL * file for details. === CUT HERE === Seems like some library problem with python. I have installed binaries of version 2.1.1: % python Python 2.1.1 (#1, Aug 25 2001, 04:37:28) [GCC 3.0.1] on sunos5 Type copyright, credits or license for more information. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] export
Is there an easy way to export my list from Mailman?
[Mailman-Users] Wish list
To add to the wish list A way to extract and importsubscribers from the list. either a tool to do this or to store users in a .csv format, not in the .db file We have registration databases that have lots of email address we would like to add, maybe at a command line tool would work for bulk add of users. Hope to see this in the next cut of the code. Edward L. StryzekSenior Computer Systems EngineerArchdiocese of Chicago
Re: [Mailman-Users] export
On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 11:48:12AM -0500, Jonathan Zuck wrote: Is there an easy way to export my list from Mailman? If you mean to export the list of users subscribed to the list, use ~mailman/bin/get_members listname -- Caleb Epstein | bklyn . org | cae at| Brooklyn Dust | 1 + 1 = 3, for large values of 1. bklyn dot org | Bunny Mfg. | -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Since my Host is doing nothing
Brian @ Verizon wrote: Perhaps you can at least make some helpful suggestions for the novice. When your host said they're moving their users to use Mailman for mailing lists, they were not implying that the service is being done by someone else. Mailman is a software package that they (your host) installs on their machine(s). They run it, they configure it, they host it, period. However, on the issue of having your pages match your website, all of Mailman's templates are configurable by the list administrator, so you can change its looks to your liking. -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
RE: [Mailman-Users] Since my Host is doing nothing
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Since my Host is doing nothing My web host, Hosting Matters has decided to move many of its' clients to a new server. The result is we are being place onto your service for (at least) mail lists. Maybe you do the whole thing, don't know, don't care. (rest snipped for sanity's sake) Hmm, resting on our laurels, I guess. As noted to you along with other items - some of which are mentioned in this post to the list - the mailman software is something local to the server, not something external to it (and the data certainly isn't managed by someone else, just as SmartList isn't handled off network). Mailman has excellent features and is much better in terms of scalability, IMO, than other list software, but there is the occasional person that finds it too difficult to use. For them, another script can be found. It isn't as if mailman is the only list software out there - but it surely is one of the better ones. I'm not certain that a mailman mailing list is exactly the place for getting those types of recommendations, however. Regards, Annette Hosting Matters, Inc. http://www.hostmatters.com -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
