[Mailman-Users] From: vs. Sender: and MS Outlook

2002-02-18 Thread Jessica Koeppel


Oh no. I've just discovered that Outlook replies to the "Sender:"
field, over the "From:" field in many situations. It uses "From:" when
you hit "Reply", but it uses "Sender:" to display the "From:" field in
certain places (only some places! it's crazy!), and worst of all, it
uses Sender: when you respond to Outlook calendar announcements.

This is bad in our environment, where nearly everyone uses Outlook,
and people often send meeting announcement to the all-company list.
Now that I've moved our lists to mailman, all of these calendar responses
go to the list-admin (me!). Yuck.

There's no way I'm going to be able to get these people to stop using
Outlook, so I'm looking for other solutions to this problem. 

Do you think it'd be a *really* bad idea for me to modify mailman
to not include the Sender: field at all?

I realize it's contrary to RFC 822.. But is it actually *bad* in any
practical sense that I'm not realizing?

Does anyone here follow these things and know what Microsoft's
position on this is? It seems pretty clear to me that their using
the "Sender:" header like that is just *wrong*, but maybe I'm
missing something.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscriber options

2002-02-18 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull

> "Paul" == Paul Croft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Paul> Currently I see that I can veiw 30 subscribers at a
Paul> time...is there anyway to view more?

I think you have to hack the source, but it's not hard.  Probably you
don't need to, though.

Paul> Is there a search feature for subcribers so that I could
Paul> search for [EMAIL PROTECTED] and be instantly taken to the
Paul> options for that user?

Not exactly.  The standard member admin page contains not only the
current page of 30 users, but a list of links, one for each page.  So
you can randomly access each batch of 30.

Paul> In addition to the above...is there an easy way to
Paul> unsubscribe users without having to use the password
Paul> feature?

I assume you're referring to the user password; that's irrelevant to
the admin.  Once authorized for the admin functions, the admin just
checks or unchecks appropriate toggles on the member admin page, then
hits Submit.  Only the users need their own passwords.  For the admin,
once authorized, the password is replaced by a cookie, which lasts for
your browser session (although you can explicitly log out if you'll be
away from your desk or something).



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Re: [Mailman-Users] "Message too big" doesn't get an error

2002-02-18 Thread Steve Crook

"J. Frederick Ball OEF" wrote:

> At 02:38 AM 2/19/2002 +, Steve Crook wrote:
>
> >When a list has a message size limit & something larger than that
> >is sent to the list there doesn't seem to be any message sent to
> >warn either the person who posted the message that was too big
> >or to the list manager.
>
> Under General Options, have you set:
>
>  Send mail to poster when their posting is held for approval?
>
> to "Yes"?

Yes, that is set to "Yes"


>
> The list manager(s), if listed in the second field on that same page, are
> notified that (listname) post from (sender's address) requires approval,
> and are invited to visit the admin page, where they are notified of the
> reason the post is held -- i.e., the message is too big.  Happens fairly
> regularly on one of my lists.
>
> Fred

And the list manager is explicitly specified with their full email address

But it doesn't send any message to either the list manager OR the
person who sent the message that was too big. The message that
is too big isn't distributed to the list and it isn't in the archive

It just goes into a black hole & is never seen again.

But the sender doesn't know this, if they weren't a list member they
wouldn't expect anything (if posting isn't restricted to list members)
so assume that the message was sent and distributed OK

Steve



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Re: [Mailman-Users] "Message too big" doesn't get an error

2002-02-18 Thread J. Frederick Ball OEF

At 02:38 AM 2/19/2002 +, Steve Crook wrote:

>When a list has a message size limit & something larger than that
>is sent to the list there doesn't seem to be any message sent to
>warn either the person who posted the message that was too big
>or to the list manager.

Under General Options, have you set:

 Send mail to poster when their posting is held for approval?

to "Yes"?

The list manager(s), if listed in the second field on that same page, are 
notified that (listname) post from (sender's address) requires approval, 
and are invited to visit the admin page, where they are notified of the 
reason the post is held -- i.e., the message is too big.  Happens fairly 
regularly on one of my lists.

Fred


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[Mailman-Users] "Message too big" doesn't get an error

2002-02-18 Thread Steve Crook

I'm fairly new to Mailman, somebody else set it up on our site
and has now left.

It seems to be working well except ...

When a list has a message size limit & something larger than that
is sent to the list there doesn't seem to be any message sent to
warn either the person who posted the message that was too big
or to the list manager.

I tried to search the SourceForge bug page at
http://sourceforge.net/bugs/?group_id=103 but it's down for
maintenance.

I tried to use the Python.Org advanced search page at
http://search.python.org but that doesn't seem to know anything
about Python Mailing list Archives

Obviously not my day :)

Steve



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[Mailman-Users] Question about digests and accents

2002-02-18 Thread Paul-Catalin Oros

Hi,

I have a problem with digests generated by MailMan, when messages contain
accents. The topics are displaying them incorrectly and so do the plain text
digests.

I did my own research around the subject and couldn't find much about it, it
looks like it's a limitation of the current version of MailMan. Before
declaring the case closed, though, I would like to ask if anyone found a
solution to this or if someone can provide me with some hints to a solution.

Thank you,

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[Mailman-Users] MAILMAN + QMAIL

2002-02-18 Thread yung

Hello guys,

I am trying to use MAILMAN with QMAIL, so I was wondering if there was some
documentation on it somewhere?. Also wish to know how to add domains on a
mailman, from installation, administration, to user adding and stuff.

Thank you in advance.

Regards,
Yung

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Is there a way to search archives?

2002-02-18 Thread Scott Spence

Hi Jeffrey,

Take a look at this thread:

http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2001-October/014447.html

The patch uses htdig and is on sourgeforge

I think this should *either* be an included feature (it is on the
wishlist) or, in the meantime, in the FAQ doc

Cheers

Scott


On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Jeffrey Davis wrote:

> "new to mailman" has this comment:
>
> I wanted to be  a good problem solver and search the lists archives for
> my answers but realized that mailman doesn't have a search engine (aside
> from downloading the tar.gzip archive and grepping it!)
>
> Is there some python plugin that could be used?
>
> Sorry if this question has been asked before
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscribe users without confirmation

2002-02-18 Thread Marc MERLIN

On Tue, Feb 19, 2002 at 08:13:57AM +1100, Joe Mizzi wrote:
> How would i  be able to subscribe users through  the web interface without
> having them reply to a confirmation email?

You can write a small CGI that calls 
~mailman/bin/remove_members listname email

Of course, it then lets me unsubscribe you, but in some cases that's an
acceptable tradeoff

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[Mailman-Users] QMAIL+MAILMAN

2002-02-18 Thread yung



Hello guys,
 
I am trying to use MAILMAN with QMAIL, so I was 
wondering if there was some documentation on it somewhere?. Also wish to know 
how to add domains on a mailman, from installation, administration, to user 
adding and stuff.
 
Thank you in advance.
 
Regards,
Yung


[Mailman-Users] Subscribe users without confirmation

2002-02-18 Thread Joe Mizzi



How would i be able to subscribe users through the web 
interface without having them reply to a confirmation email?
 
Joe


[Mailman-Users] Is there a way to search archives?

2002-02-18 Thread Jeffrey Davis

"new to mailman" has this comment:

I wanted to be  a good problem solver and search the lists archives for 
my answers but realized that mailman doesn't have a search engine (aside 
from downloading the tar.gzip archive and grepping it!)

Is there some python plugin that could be used?

Sorry if this question has been asked before


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[Mailman-Users] Permission problems during new setup ([Errno 13] Permission denied)

2002-02-18 Thread Scott Spence

Hi all Python/Mailman experts,

I am having problems setting up Mailman (1.1 and 2.05, 2.08 and 2.07) My
problem seems to revolve around permissions. I configured mailman with the
following command line (as suggested by the exim-howto):

./configure --with-mail-gid=8 --with-cgi-gid=65534
--prefix=/var/lib/mailman --with-ownername=mail --with-ownergroup=mail
--with-username=mail --host=noggon.com --with-groupname=mail

Firstly almost all installed files need their permissions changed (using
bin/check_perms bad gid (has: scott, expected mail) (fixing)) - is this a
normal part of installation?

Once all steps in the INSTALL file have been done then begin the errors
(in the apache error log):

Traceback (innermost last):
  File "/var/lib/mailman/scripts/driver", line 71, in run_main
immediate=1)
  File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Logging/StampedLogger.py", line 49, in
__init__
Logger.__init__(self, category, nofail, immediate)
  File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Logging/Logger.py", line 40, in __init__
self.__get_f()
  File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Logging/Logger.py", line 55, in __get_f
f = self.__fp = open(self.__filename, 'a+', 1)
IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/var/lib/mailman/logs/error'

But what I do not understand is that the permission on the error file seem
as I would expect!:
-rw-rw-r--1 mail mail0 Feb 18 18:22 /var/lib/mailman/logs/error

It seems as though the webserver must have write permission to the
logs/error file - this makes sense as the error is being created by the
cgi-bin script. But annoying! and not picked up by check_perms

Correcting the permissions (so the webserver has access to the files)
seems to put the permissions in a loop of webserver->mail->webserver
(each change causing an error).

Creating a list using bin/newlist also causes problems because the list
files (esp. /var/lib/mailman/lists/test/config.db) does not allow the
webserver to read it - so viewing details of this list causes an error

I have searched high and low for others having similar problems but none
give insight into a solution.

I would appreicate any help

Thanks

Scott

Additional information:

The exim configuration (as per the Howto) seems to function fine.


- My exim (MTA) runs as mail:mail
- Apache runs as nobody:nogroup
- apache 1.3.9-14
- exim   3.12-10.2
- python-base 1.5.2-10potato Python 1.5.2 (#0, Dec 27 2000, 13:59:38)
[GCC 2.95.2 2220 (Debian GNU/Linux)] on linux2

-- error log from $prefix/logs/error

admin(11163): [- Mailman Version: 2.0.7 -]
admin(11163): [- Traceback --]
admin(11163): Traceback (innermost last):
admin(11163):   File "/var/lib/mailman/scripts/driver", line 96, in
run_main
admin(11163): main()
admin(11163):   File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/subscribe.py", line 69,
in main
admin(11163): mlist.Lock()
admin(11163):   File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 1339, in
Lock
admin(11163): self.__lock.lock(timeout)
admin(11163):   File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/LockFile.py", line 219, in
lock
admin(11163): self.__write()
admin(11163):   File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/LockFile.py", line 350, in
__write
admin(11163): fp = open(self.__tmpfname, 'w')
admin(11163): IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied:
'/var/lib/mailman/locks/test.lock.kiko.11163'
admin(11163): [- Python Information -]
admin(11163): sys.version= 1.5.2 (#0, Dec 27 2000, 13:59:38)  [GCC
2.95.2 2220 (Debian GNU/Linux)]
admin(11163): sys.executable = /usr/bin/python
admin(11163): sys.prefix = /usr
admin(11163): sys.exec_prefix= /usr
admin(11163): sys.path   = /usr
admin(11163): sys.platform   = linux2
admin(11163): [- Environment Variables -]
admin(11163):   DOCUMENT_ROOT: /var/www/noggon/
admin(11163):   SERVER_ADDR: 195.149.61.228
admin(11163):   HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING: gzip, deflate
admin(11163):   CONTENT_LENGTH: 77
admin(11163):   CONTENT_TYPE: application/x-www-form-urlencoded
admin(11163):   PATH_TRANSLATED: /var/www/noggon/test
admin(11163):   GATEWAY_INTERFACE: CGI/1.1
admin(11163):   UNIQUE_ID: PHE9WMOVPeQAACckJ3w
admin(11163):   HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE: en-gb
admin(11163):   SERVER_PROTOCOL: HTTP/1.1
admin(11163):   REMOTE_ADDR: 213.98.26.235
admin(11163):   SERVER_PORT: 80
admin(11163):   HTTP_CONNECTION: Keep-Alive
admin(11163):   HTTP_USER_AGENT: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0;
Windows 98)
admin(11163):   HTTP_ACCEPT: */*
admin(11163):   REQUEST_URI: /cgi-bin/mailman/subscribe/test
admin(11163):   PATH: /bin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin
admin(11163):   QUERY_STRING:
admin(11163):   SCRIPT_FILENAME: /var/www/noggon/cgi-bin/mailman/subscribe
admin(11163):   PATH_INFO: /test
admin(11163):   HTTP_HOST: www.noggon.com
admin(11163):   REQUEST_METHOD: POST
admin(11163):   SERVER_SIGNATURE:
admin(11163):   SCRIPT_NAME: /cgi-bin/mailman/subscribe
admin(11163):   SERVER_ADMIN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
admin(11163):   SERVER_SOFTWARE: Apache/1.3.9 (Unix) Debian/GNU
admin(11163):   PYTHONPATH: /var/lib/mailman
a

[Mailman-Users] No response

2002-02-18 Thread Alan Romaniuc



Hi,

I´m running (or trying) mailman, using postfix on FreBSD 4.5 
after I´ve solved all problems (like GID 65534 problems) my mailman does
not give answer I try to subscribe or send a e-mail to the list biut
nothing happens maillog is OK and mailman/logs/* too...

Can anyone help me?


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[Mailman-Users] Mail Threads

2002-02-18 Thread Bodnyk, Bruce W

Hi,

I just got Mailman up and running. I've been doing some testing by posting
messages to a
list I created and then replying to them. I see that Mailman maintains an
archive that you
can view in a variety of different ways one of which is by thread.

I would have expected that replies to a thread to be indented but all the
postings and replies
are lined up starting at the same column of the page. Does something need to
be done to
enable replies to a posting to be indented or does Mailman just not do this?

Thanks!
Bruce

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Re: [Mailman-Users] check_perms problems

2002-02-18 Thread Morgan Fletcher

Joe Kirby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> My lists are working just fine, and all of the command line admin
> features work.
>
> When I go to http://server/mailman/admin/listname and enter my site
> password, I get an error back saying "Authorization Failed". I have
> tried setting the site password using mmsitepass. Everything worked fine
> last month. I can't thing if anything that I have done other than apply
> the RedHat upgrades.

I've found that I had to clear my browser's cache and clean out mailman's
admin cookie(s) when I've made network changes.

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[Mailman-Users] Check_perms (Part II)

2002-02-18 Thread Joe Kirby

Sorry! I forgot to show the problem with check_perms.

When I try to run ./check_perms :


Traceback (innermost last):
  File "./check_perms", line 50, in ?
MAILMAN_GRPNAME = grp.getgrgid(MAILMAN_GID)[0]
TypeError: illegal argument type for built-in operation


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[Mailman-Users] check_perms problems

2002-02-18 Thread Joe Kirby

My lists are working just fine, and all of the command line admin
features work.

When I go to http://server/mailman/admin/listname and enter my site
password, I get an error back saying "Authorization Failed". I have
tried setting the site password using mmsitepass. Everything worked fine
last month. I can't thing if anything that I have done other than apply
the RedHat upgrades.

Any suggestions?

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[Mailman-Users] email admin + / ?

2002-02-18 Thread Paul Reilly


Hi,

I've been using mailman for a while and it's great.
I have 2 questions

1) how can I auto-subscribe someone to a list, without accessing the
   web page, but by sending an email ? In majordomo this would be like
   sending an "approve" message with the users details...

2) I've mailman installed at http://lists.domain.com/
   Can I assign th root web folder to /mailman/listinfo ?
   I think thould break things. Basically I just want the public
   page showing what lists are here to come up at the
   base URL of http://lists.domain.com/


Thanks

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[Mailman-Users] statistics

2002-02-18 Thread Rodolfo Pilas

I remember when I was a FidoNet node used a small software to produce
statistics of trafic of an echoarea (a mail list).  Said statistics had
i.e. the 10 best poster, the biggest thread, etc. I had a cron that
posted the statistics results into the proper list one time a month.

Can you tell me if exists something like this to use with mailman?

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[Mailman-Users] Subscriber options

2002-02-18 Thread Paul Croft

Hello

I am in the process of moving some rather large announce only lists from 
Topica to my own server using Mailman.  I have looked for solutions to my 
problems but cannot find them...so I am going to ask here and hope someone 
can help me.

Currently I see that I can veiw 30 subscribers at a time...is there anyway 
to view more?  One of my lists has in excess of 20,000 subscribers and 
looking at them 30 at a time is too difficult to handle!

Is there a search feature for subcribers so that I could search for 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and be instantly taken to the options for that user?

In addition to the above...is there an easy way to unsubscribe users 
without having to use the password feature?  With large lists 
administrating using a password is very hard...especially with clueless 
users!  ;)

My lists are humour related and all opt-in...but I KNOW that someone is 
going to demand that I unsubscribe them...if I have to search through 
20,000 subs 30 at a time...that is way too tedious!

Thanks in advance for your answers.

Paul


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Re: [Mailman-Users] locks, max cpu, postfix, qrunner ugliness

2002-02-18 Thread Morgan Fletcher

Charlie Watts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> I 'ktrace -dp pid', waited five minutes, did 'ktrace -c', then 'kdump |
>> less'.
> 
>
> Try taking qrunner out of cron, sending a message to the list, and
> starting qrunner under ktrace. Then do the 'kdump | less' and you should
> be able to see where it changes to busy-waiting ...

That was done with no qrunner in crontab at the time. I did get more
interesting data when I launched qrunner with ktrace, but still couldn't
track it down. 

> Is it a lock issue?

After each HUP I'd check for mailman processes, wait for there to be none,
then clean out the locks

> Hrm. I've got 11k users in a list, and know of folks with 100k user lists.

I believe I fixed the problem. I don't know the exact cause. I sent a
message via script to each of the 1800+ subscribers to the majordomo
list. I got back about 200 bounces. I removed all of those addresses from
the mailman list. I grep-ed through the qfiles directory for bounce
messsages, including one really crazy bounce caused by a majordomo list
server address being subscribed. (Majordomo was replying, quoting the
welcome message with "> ", over and over and over. I wonder if python saw
redirects in all the garbage.) I shrank the number of files in qfiles from
over 800 to around 60 human-authored posts. Ran qrunner. It succeeded. I
put the cron job back in place that runs it every minute, and it's been
humming along for about 10 hours with no problem.

This would probably be a good test case for mailman: add some percentage of
known dead addresses to a list and see what mailman does. 

Thanks for your help, it seems to be working now.

Morgan
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Re: [Mailman-Users] HTML mail and attachments

2002-02-18 Thread Richard Barrett

At 08:06 18/02/2002 -0800, Maurice  Lafleur wrote:
>I need to stop HTML mail and posts with attachments to reach mailing lists.
>
>How do I do this?
>
>Regards,
>
>Maurice Lafleur

See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.008.htp


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[Mailman-Users] HTML mail and attachments

2002-02-18 Thread Maurice Lafleur

I need to stop HTML mail and posts with attachments to reach mailing lists. 

How do I do this?

Regards,

Maurice Lafleur


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[Mailman-Users] Attachments in archive

2002-02-18 Thread Morten-Christian Bernson

I wonder if there is a patch so attachments can be showed as downloadable
files in the archive?  It's not really very useful to get jpeg images, exe
files and whatnot as text in the browser when browsing the archive or a
list where binary files are posted as well.




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[Mailman-Users] configlist with password

2002-02-18 Thread Mark T. Valites

I rolled a big mailman upgrade this weekend that fixed my corrupted 
dbs.  Since I was used to using the mmsite password, I never thought to 
check whether the original list passwd was saved with configlist -o.  To 
my dismay & just a few phones calls, I find it is not.  I found that I 
could feed the old encrypted passwd back into config_list -i and make it 
work.  Whipping up some quick shell looping, I was able to create a 
directory of files listname-passwd of the format: password = 
'encrypted_paswd"

ex.

password =  '\261\271\251r\314\330\311b\244s\220\233\227\000~\264'


Feeding this into another for loop, I got several lists in, but then all 
the config_lists started to hang.  The example above is one that did so 
(this is a real passwd.  If anyone decrypts it, who knows what it'll 
be...)  I found the majority of them hung.  Is there something wrong 
with the format of the file?  escape or special characters?

Is there a better way to do what I am trying to do?  Anyway to make 
config_list do what I want?

 >--))> >--))>
Mark T. Valites
Unix Systems Analyst
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SUNY Geneseo
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[Mailman-Users] Help on Privacy Options Settings

2002-02-18 Thread David Kleber

With a list of specific e-mail addresses in the "Addresses of members
accepted for posting to this list without implicit approval requirement"
field, should I have the "Must posts be approved by an administrator?"
setting set to "YES" if I want all other subscribers' posts held for
approval EXCEPT for those that are specifically listed?

I've read the FAQ and it isn't very clear on how these settings work.

ANY help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

-Dave Kleber, KB3FXI
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[Mailman-Users] Cron Permission denied

2002-02-18 Thread Flávio

Dear users

My cron always send it to my mail admin account. How can I solve that

Thanks

Flávio
Rio de Janeiro - Brasil

Traceback (innermost last):
File "/home/mailman/cron/qrunner", line 275, in ?
lock.lock(timeout=0.5)
File "/home/mailman/Mailman/LockFile.py", line 219, in lock
self.__write()
File "/home/mailman/Mailman/LockFile.py", line 350, in __write
fp = open(self.__tmpfname, 'w')
IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied:
'/home/mailman/locks/qrunner.lock.gral.com.br.803'


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[Mailman-Users] Storing extended ASCII messages

2002-02-18 Thread Martin Skjoldebrand

When I sent a message containing words with the characters
å, ä and ö to my list the message is 
totally garbled when stored in the archives. The extended
characters are apparently coded (=55 etc).
How do I fix this?

mvh/ Regards,

Martin S.
CTO, Forum Syd

"To err is human--and to blame it on a computer is even
more so." 


 


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Re: [Mailman-Users] locks, max cpu, postfix, qrunner ugliness

2002-02-18 Thread Charlie Watts

On Sun, 17 Feb 2002, Morgan Fletcher wrote:
> Charlie Watts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Anyway, I'd ktrace/strace that python instance, see what it's doing. And
> > look in your mail logs - is it actively dumping things into postfix, or
> > has it not even gotten there, or has it started and paused?
> >
> > Is python just sitting there busy-waiting?
>
> I 'ktrace -dp pid', waited five minutes, did 'ktrace -c', then 'kdump |
> less'.


Try taking qrunner out of cron, sending a message to the list, and
starting qrunner under ktrace. Then do the 'kdump | less' and you should
be able to see where it changes to busy-waiting ...

Is it a lock issue?

> I also should mention that I tested this mailman installation for about
> a month with a small list (~30 addresses) with no problems, and for
> about a week with a larger list (~400 addresses), also with no problems.
> Both those lists contained valid addresses. We did test subscribing an
> address to the second list, then removing the user that was subscribed
> at the user's host, and mailman successfully unsubscribed it after it
> bounced for a while.
>
> Now the 1800-member list is generating a ton of bounces, and I have a
> feeling that's what's choking qrunner. But I may have been biased by
> reading this:
>
> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=103&atid=100103&func=detail&aid=449550

Probably not quite the same - in that, qrunner is -dying-. Yours is just
spinning its wheels.

Hrm. I've got 11k users in a list, and know of folks with 100k user lists.

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[Mailman-Users] Permission deny

2002-02-18 Thread Flávio

Dear users

My cron always send it to my mail admin account. How can I solve that

Thanks

Flávio
Rio de Janeiro - Brasil

Traceback (innermost last):
File "/home/mailman/cron/qrunner", line 275, in ?
lock.lock(timeout=0.5)
File "/home/mailman/Mailman/LockFile.py", line 219, in lock
self.__write()
File "/home/mailman/Mailman/LockFile.py", line 350, in __write
fp = open(self.__tmpfname, 'w')
IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied:
'/home/mailman/locks/qrunner.lock.gral.com.br.803'


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Re: [Mailman-Users] problem changing defaults

2002-02-18 Thread Jeroen Valcke

On Wed, Feb 13, 2002 at 11:53:36AM +0100, Jeroen Valcke wrote:
> Hello,
> Just installed mailman and made a test list. All works fine except some
> minor inconveniences. I can't seem to change the defaults.
> I would like to change DEFAULT_LOGOS, DEFAULT_HOSTNAME, DEFAULT_URL As
> said in the instructions you must add this to mm_cfg.py file (which I
> copied first from mm_cfg.py.dist) However no change. I browsed the
> mailing list and somebody suggested removing the corresponding .pyc
> file. Doesn't solve my problem either.
> 
> Is there some magic trick?

Ok. I still haven't found a solution for this one. I changed mm_cfg.py
several times. Tried fixing by deleting the *.pyc files. Even
reinstalled mailman. No luck!

Is it possible that the problem is related to the python version. 
I use version 2.2 By the way why are there several (five) different
python version advertised on the Python web-site?

Regards,
-Jeroen-

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