Re: [Mailman-Users] Web Forum Frontend to Mailinglist

[Roger Chrisman]

Hi all,

Like Damon Linkous, I too came to the Mailman doorsteps looking for 
an alternative to Yahoogroups for my current community of three email 
lists.

Does anyone know of an open source package _Web forum/email list 
combination_ out there that I could look into hosting on a virtual 
Web host space?

Any leads at all appreciated.

Thanks,

Roger Chrisman
teflchina.com

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[Mailman-Users] How the archives get indexed

[Kirez Korgan]

folks,
I still haven't found a solution to getting my archives into
reverse-chronological order. I emailed Mailman-Developers on this, and
nobody responded, maybe I shouldn't have posted there. I've been searching
through the archives of Users and haven't found anything yet. There
certainly is nothing in the documentation. There's nothing in config_list.

Does anybody know where, in the code, the chronology or indexing of the
archives is set? That might give me something to tweak.

Again, I need for the most recent messages to appear on the top of the
page, not the bottom. I used to use MHonArc, and this was a variable one
could set: either chronological order, or reverse-chronological.  As I
opined before, chronological order is patently stupid. Jon Carnes says his
are, by default, in reverse chrono. Well, mine --- also 2.0.8. -- are by
default in chrono. That means there's a toggle switch somewhere. Can anybody
make an educated guess, where?

cheers,
Kirez




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Re: [Mailman-Users] New install Mailman 2.0 - odd python errors in cron jobs

[ScaryG]

On 28 Feb 2002 18:47:42 -0500
Chris Hedemark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> That is an old version.  Try 2.0.8 as there have been a great many
> bugfixes.

 I upgraded from mailman 2.0 to 2.0.8 and all those error messages in the
cron jobs have disappeared! Super!

 Easy upgrade as well. 

 From a previous Majordomo admin, Mailman rocks! Keep up the great work.

gf

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Re: [Mailman-Users] why did the archive quit updating? (stylesheets)

[Kirez Korgan]

The archive quit updating because I was implementing style-sheets through
HyperArch.py and I left behind a stray '.' in the code.

So this question was more about inept emacsing rather than a Mailman
technical problem.

But I'd be happy to hear about --- or to see the work of --- others who have
implemented style-sheets in Mailman. While my archives are looking better,
the messages themselves are still kludgy looking.

Kirez
- Original Message -
From: "Kirez Korgan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 11:07 AM
Subject: [Mailman-Users] why did the archive quit updating?


> Messages are going out by email, but the web archive has not shown any new
> messages for several hours.
>
> What is the likely cause? What can I do to fix it?  I'm running v.2.0.8 on
a
> Linux box with Apache.
>
> Kirez
>
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[Mailman-Users] Broken subscribe form

[Molly Cliborne]

Hello out there!

I'm a new user of Mailman, trying to get the system up and running for a
friend.

I changed some of the wording, and experimented with changing the order of
options on the List Info Page (placing Unsubscribe option before Subscribe).
Well, that'll teach me to mess with code. Now my form doesn't work.  The
Submit button does nothing in IE, and the form blanks don't show up in
Netscape. 

I've switched the order back around, but my form still doesn't work.  The
form is located here:
http://avalonrichmond.com/mailman/listinfo/events_avalonrichmond.com
I would appreciate any advice you can offer as to how to fix this form.

Best wishes,
Molly

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Pending Subscriptions

[Sarah K. Miller]

No, when you dump the pending subscriptions db, you get stuff formatted
thusly:

149153: ('[EMAIL PROTECTED]', 'somepassword', 0, 1014675087),
154200: ('[EMAIL PROTECTED]', 'password', 0, 1014491600)

Unless one of those number sets represents the actual list, there is nothing
there to tell me where to look.

- Original Message -
From: "Jon Carnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Sarah K. Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 7:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Pending Subscriptions


> Is there no header information stored with the requests?  The header
should
> contain the TO: which indicates the requested list.
>
>  --- Original Message: Wednesday 27 February 2002 08:43 pm ---
> > I used dumpdb on pending_subscriptions.db and found a whole list of
> > subscriptions in there waiting to be processed. However, I don't know
what
> > lists they're for. Is there any way to find out? I tried looking at the
> > individual requests.db for each list, but they are all empty. We have
over
> > 80 lists on our system and I don't relish the idea of having to go to
the
> > web interface for each one to check for pending subscriptions!
> >
> > -- Sarah
> > Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose
> >
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Re: [Mailman-Users] old emails into mailman?

[Maurice Lafleur]

Hi Matthew,

here's what I do, hoping it's the right thing. PLEASE ANYONE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG 
:-)

I cat the old archive file (I've got tons of them) one year at the time with the 
list.mbox file:

#cd ~/archive/private/list.mbox
#cat old-archive.txt list.mbox > newlist.mbox

Then I temporarily save the old mbox:

#mv list.mbox list.mbox.keep

then I rename the new mbox to the right name:

#mv newlist.mbox list.mbox

I save the old archive folder

#mv ~/archive/private/list ~/archive/private/list.keep

Finally, I rebuild the new archive:

#~/bin/arch list

After chewing on the new message file the system write the new archive file.
I check it from a browser and if it works I dump:

rm -rf ~/archive/private/list.keep
rm ~/archive/private/list.mbox/list.mbox.keep

I'm just wondering about one thing: my server is very small scale memory and cpu-wise 
(200 mmx/ 64M ram). Last time I added a year to 
the archive it took the system well over 2 hours to reconstruct the archive file. And 
it seems to be getting worse every time I add a new 
year to the archive file. Is this normal? Do I need to reconstruct the archive file 
one year a the time or I could just cat all the remaining 
years in front of the current messages in the file and let the system chew on that for 
a (very) long while once and for all?

good luck to you Matthew

and thanks to the rest of you guys

MGL

> Hello list!
> 
>   We have just started using mailman for our techsupport stuff, and I 
> wanted to try and propogate the archives with some old emails we have, 
> without actually re-spamming the existing list. Is this as easy as 
> catting them to the listname.mbox files? Is there anything that would 
> need to be done to get these into the archives?
> 
> TIA!
> 
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> Manager - Systems Integration Saepio Technologies
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Re: [Mailman-Users] subscribe all

[Marc MERLIN]

On Thu, Feb 28, 2002 at 05:30:34PM +0100, Daniel Furter (SUB) wrote:
> hello
> 
> in the mailman version 2.0beta5 we have installed at our university 
> the  button in the menu  mailing list> has disappeared. i appreciated this function very much. 
> now i have to click dozens of times to subscribe all new members. 
> before i had to click just once. please but the  
> button back in the new mailman versions.

You should start by upgrading to 2.0.8

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Re: [Mailman-Users] qrunner lock

[Michael Johnson]

More importantly, how to prevent such things as future occurences. 
Certainly, manually checking and removing the lock may work on a per 
instance basis, but, in reality, it appears less than ideal. This problem 
happens way to frequently. Would changing the frequency depending the system 
of qrunner cron alleviate difficult locks? Is this a race condition issue 
with qrunner?


>From: "Marc MERLIN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Jay S Curtis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] qrunner lock
>Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 11:39:21 -0800
>List-Archive: 
>
>On Thu, Feb 28, 2002 at 02:03:31PM -0500, Jay S Curtis wrote:
> > Someone remind me how to fix this (or make it stop)
> >
> > Feb 28 10:25:02 2002 (15932) Could not acquire qrunner lock
> > Feb 28 10:53:02 2002 (16194) Could not acquire qrunner lock
> > Feb 28 13:50:03 2002 (17701) Could not acquire qrunner lock
> > etc..etc..etc..
>
>check if qrunner is running
>yes) do a strace -f -p pidofqrunner
>  to see what it's busy doing
>no)  remove the qrunner lock in ~mailman/locks/
>
>Marc
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[Mailman-Users] Pro

[Eduardo Fabian Diaz Velez]

Hello ..

I Install the version 2.0.6 or 2.0.8 and  gives the following error, they
could help me

Installation options
./configure --prefix=/usr/local/mailman --with-mail-gid=mail --with-cgi-gid=
nobody


Thank you,
Fabian

[- Mailman Version: 2.0.8 -]
[- Traceback --]
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/mailman/scripts/driver", line 66, in run_main
from Mailman.Logging.StampedLogger import StampedLogger
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Logging/StampedLogger.py", line 18, in ?
import time
ImportError: No module named time
[- Python Information -]
sys.version= 2.2 (#1, Feb 26 2002, 13:08:59)
[GCC 2.95.3 20010315 (release)]
sys.executable = /usr/local/bin/python
sys.prefix = /usr/local
sys.exec_prefix= /usr/local
sys.path   = /usr/local
sys.platform   = sunos5
[- Environment Variables -]
PYTHONPATH: /usr/local/mailman
SERVER_SOFTWARE: Apache/1.3.22 Ben-SSL/1.44 (Unix)
SCRIPT_FILENAME: /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/admin
SERVER_ADMIN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SCRIPT_NAME: /mailman/admin
SERVER_SIGNATURE:
REQUEST_METHOD: GET
HTTP_HOST: www.mail.salvador.edu.ar
SERVER_PROTOCOL: HTTP/1.1
QUERY_STRING:
TZ: GMT+3
REQUEST_URI: /mailman/admin
HTTP_ACCEPT: */*
HTTP_USER_AGENT: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98)
HTTP_CONNECTION: Keep-Alive
SERVER_NAME: www.mail.salvador.edu.ar
REMOTE_ADDR: 200.47.54.70
REMOTE_PORT: 4122
HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE: es-ar
SERVER_PORT: 80
GATEWAY_INTERFACE: CGI/1.1
HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING: gzip, deflate
SERVER_ADDR: 10.250.6.2
DOCUMENT_ROOT: /usr/local/apache/htdocs


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[Mailman-Users] Thread not shown allthough In-Reply-To present

[Bram de Kruijff]

Hi all,

allthough I found a lot of questions about why mailman/pipermail
doesn't show threads when mail is transferred by outlook/exchange
in the archives, but unfortuanatly no answer that solves the 
problem ;( 

I read in one of the posts that threading is done based on;

- Message-ID
- References
- In-Reply-To

But then why doesn't it work? According to the mbox of my archive
mesasages sent by outlook/exchange users don't contain a References
header but DO contain Message-ID and In-Reply-To headers.
In the same archive messages sent with mutt do contain a References
header and are shown threaded

Does pipermail realy check the In-Reply-To?
Is something wrong with the format used? eg;
 
In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

any ideas?
thanks in advance!

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[Mailman-Users] old emails into mailman?

[Matthew Boeckman]

Hello list!

We have just started using mailman for our techsupport stuff, and I 
wanted to try and propogate the archives with some old emails we have, 
without actually re-spamming the existing list. Is this as easy as 
catting them to the listname.mbox files? Is there anything that would 
need to be done to get these into the archives?

TIA!

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[Mailman-Users] subscribe all

[Daniel Furter (SUB)]

hello

in the mailman version 2.0beta5 we have installed at our university 
the  button in the menu  has disappeared. i appreciated this function very much. 
now i have to click dozens of times to subscribe all new members. 
before i had to click just once. please but the  
button back in the new mailman versions.

thanks.
dAniel furter

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RE: [Mailman-Users] Repeat messages - FollowUp-Summary

[Joseph McCall]

All the permissions look good and the headers don't indicate looping
membership. Some good ideas and certainly appreciated.

The final clue to the puzzle (I think) is that the last two times this has
occurred (previously with Mailman 2.0.5):

a) the recipients had left the company we were mailing to
b) they had set up forwarding and
c) they had set up auto-reply ("I no longer am with...")
d) (interesting) the receiving mail systems were both running Novell
GroupWise

I'm taking the low-road and blaming the receiving end not returning proper
notification of delivery (though my logs show that they deliveries were
successful).

Anywho, thanks for the replies!

Joe


-Original Message-
From: Jon Carnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 12:39 PM
To: Joseph McCall; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Repeat messages


Looks like the lock files are not working... is the "sticky" bit set
properly on the directory structure?

It looks like qrunner is kicking off every minute (as it is set to do...)
and that it is processing the message in the queue as though no other
qrunner process is running.  The only reason I can think of for it to do
that, would be the lock file not working.  Ordinarily qrunner would see the
lock file on the list and then ignore those messages.

A... Here is a long shot - Look at the message headers and see if the
messages are looping.  Could your list be a member of your list?  That would
have the same effect.  Also, someone on the list forwarding their mail to
the list would cause similar damage - those tricky end users!

Jon Carnes
- Original Message -
From: "Joseph McCall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 11:02 AM
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Repeat messages


> Although I know the answer will be "check your MTA" I thought I'd throw
this
> one out to the list anyway.
>
> RH 7.1 + Postfix (chroot'd) + Mailman 2.0.8
>
> Sending out a newsletter to ~12000 subscribers. One group of addresses,
all
> at the same domain, received multiple copies of the email (~20 each).
Every
> entry in maillog is identical except for the timestamp and shows
status=sent
> (250 Ok). IP's and names replaced to protected the harassed.
>
> Feb 24 23:31:03 lists postfix/smtp[13929]: 049AA27294:
> to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, relay=smtp.replaced.com[1.2.3.4], delay=0,
> status=sent (250 Ok)
> Feb 24 23:32:04 lists postfix/smtp[14206]: C9FC2272AC:
> to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, relay=smtp.replaced.com[1.2.3.4], delay=1,
> status=sent (250 Ok)
> Feb 24 23:33:02 lists postfix/smtp[14206]: C1A7B272AC:
> to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, relay=smtp.replaced.com[1.2.3.4], delay=1,
> status=sent (250 Ok)
> Feb 24 23:34:02 lists postfix/smtp[14206]: 8F5C1272AC:
> to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, relay=smtp.replaced.com[1.2.3.4], delay=0,
> status=sent (250 Ok)
> Feb 24 23:35:02 lists postfix/smtp[14206]: 35766272AC:
> to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, relay=smtp.replaced.com[1.2.3.4], delay=0,
> status=sent (250 Ok)
> Feb 24 23:36:03 lists postfix/smtp[14206]: EFED6272AC:
> to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, relay=smtp.replaced.com[1.2.3.4], delay=1,
> status=sent (250 Ok)
>
> It's doing this retry every minute, per qrunner cron job I suppose.
>
> Users are only subscribed once, strings on config.db show the users have
> three entries each (which everyone appears to have).
>
> In Postfix I've altered the queue lifetime and set the minimal retry time
to
> 10 hours to limit repeated sends.
>
> To top it all off, after shutting down Postfix and clearing the queues,
the
> repeats started again once Postfix was back up. Shutdown, cleared
> everything, rebooted the server, back up, same problem. Two addresses at
the
> same domain continue to get hammered. Recursive grep'ing on mailman
> directory shows only the config.db and config.db.last file have entries
for
> the user's names.
>
> Any ideas? What else can I check?
>
> Joe McCall
> UNIX Administrator
> Informax, Inc.
> http://www.informaxinc.com
>
>
>
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Re: [Mailman-Users] qrunner lock

[Marc MERLIN]

On Thu, Feb 28, 2002 at 02:58:30PM -0500, Jay S Curtis wrote:
> Hmmm.. qrunner not running & no lockfile found
> (using postfix)
> Am I barking up the wrong tree?

Hold on, so you are saying that your qrunner is running once a minute from
cron, that it complains that it's finding a lockfile and hence doesn't run,
but that you can't find a lockfile?

If so, run the cron entry by hand under strace
Something like:
su - mailman
strace -f /usr/bin/python -S /var/local/mailman/cron/qrunner

Hopefully that will give you a clue as to why it's not running

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Re: [Mailman-Users] qrunner lock

[Jay S Curtis]

Hmmm.. qrunner not running & no lockfile found
(using postfix)
Am I barking up the wrong tree?

On Thursday 28 February 2002 02:48 pm, you wrote:
> More importantly, how to prevent such things as future occurences.
> Certainly, manually checking and removing the lock may work on a per
> instance basis, but, in reality, it appears less than ideal. This problem
> happens way to frequently. Would changing the frequency depending the
> system of qrunner cron alleviate difficult locks? Is this a race condition
> issue with qrunner?
>
>
> From: "Marc MERLIN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
<>

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Re: [Mailman-Users] qrunner lock

[Marc MERLIN]

On Thu, Feb 28, 2002 at 07:48:45PM +, Michael Johnson wrote:
> More importantly, how to prevent such things as future occurences. 
> Certainly, manually checking and removing the lock may work on a per 
> instance basis, but, in reality, it appears less than ideal. This problem 
> happens way to frequently. Would changing the frequency depending the 
> system of qrunner cron alleviate difficult locks? Is this a race condition 
> issue with qrunner?

Unless you  are having  crashes (like  a bad  message crashing  qrunner), in
which case, it should show up in your mailman logs (~mailman/logs/), qrunner
doesn't just casually die and leave a lock behind.
At least, it doesn't on my sites.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] qrunner lock

[Marc MERLIN]

On Thu, Feb 28, 2002 at 02:03:31PM -0500, Jay S Curtis wrote:
> Someone remind me how to fix this (or make it stop)
> 
> Feb 28 10:25:02 2002 (15932) Could not acquire qrunner lock
> Feb 28 10:53:02 2002 (16194) Could not acquire qrunner lock
> Feb 28 13:50:03 2002 (17701) Could not acquire qrunner lock
> etc..etc..etc..

check if qrunner is running
yes) do a strace -f -p pidofqrunner 
 to see what it's busy doing
no)  remove the qrunner lock in ~mailman/locks/

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[Mailman-Users] why did the archive quit updating?

[Kirez Korgan]

Messages are going out by email, but the web archive has not shown any new
messages for several hours.

What is the likely cause? What can I do to fix it?  I'm running v.2.0.8 on a
Linux box with Apache.

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[Mailman-Users] qrunner lock

[Jay S Curtis]

Someone remind me how to fix this (or make it stop)

Feb 28 10:25:02 2002 (15932) Could not acquire qrunner lock
Feb 28 10:53:02 2002 (16194) Could not acquire qrunner lock
Feb 28 13:50:03 2002 (17701) Could not acquire qrunner lock
etc..etc..etc..
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[Mailman-Users] qrunner errors and delays

[Max Kalika]

Greetings list,

We have been noticing intermittent qrunner errors (in the qrunner log) like 
the following:

Feb 28 09:30:00 2002 (29548) Exception reading qfile: 
/mail/lists/qfiles/4a892b3f09e5f910ea6baa3362cf6048ef09c865
EOF read where object expected

The error log also has a ton of these:

Feb 28 09:52:00 2002 qrunner(31630): Traceback (most recent call last):
Feb 28 09:52:00 2002 qrunner(31630):   File 
"/usr/local/webapps/mailman/cron/qrunner", line 282, in ?
Feb 28 09:52:00 2002 qrunner(31630):  kids = main(lock)
Feb 28 09:52:00 2002 qrunner(31630):   File 
"/usr/local/webapps/mailman/cron/qrunner", line 202, in main
Feb 28 09:52:00 2002 qrunner(31630):  os.unlink(root+'.db')
Feb 28 09:52:00 2002 qrunner(31630): OSError :  [Errno 2] No such file or 
directory: '/mail/lists/qfiles/dca77c
d596314ee9e3eeaf047b21f34c179dc16e.db

This may be related to random delays on some lists (from 20 minutes to 
several hours)

Would anyone have any information on how to resolve this?  Thanks in 
advance.

Here's the system setup:

SYSTEM:
  linux kernel 2.4.16; glibc 2.2.4; gcc-2.95.3; python 2.1.2; mailman 2.0.8
  sendmail 8.11.6

PERMISSIONS:
drwxrwsr-x   10 mailman  mailman   240 Apr 15  2001 lists
drwxrwsr-x4 root mailman96 Apr 15  2001 lists/archives
drwxrwsr-x2 root mailman 11072 Feb 28 09:54 lists/data
drwxrwsr-x2 root mailman80 Jan  5 18:03 lists/filters
drwxrwsr-x  490 root mailman 13520 Feb 25 09:47 lists/lists
drwxrwsr-x2 root mailman   336 Feb 28 09:56 lists/locks
drwxrwsr-x2 root mailman   280 Sep 13 14:10 lists/logs
drwxrwsr-x2 root mailman  2736 Feb 28 09:56 lists/qfiles
drwxrwsr-x2 root mailman   448 Feb 25 21:37 lists/spam

drwxrwsr-x2 root mailman  4096 Jan  5 18:03 mailman/bin
drwxrwsr-x2 root mailman  4096 Jan  5 18:03 mailman/cgi-bin
drwxrwsr-x2 root mailman  4096 Jan  5 18:04 mailman/cron
drwxrwsr-x2 root mailman  4096 Jan  5 18:03 mailman/icons
drwxrwsr-x2 root mailman  4096 Jan  5 18:03 mailman/mail
drwxrwsr-x8 root mailman  4096 Feb 13 11:16 mailman/Mailman
drwxrwsr-x2 root mailman  4096 Jan  5 18:04 mailman/scripts
drwxrwsr-x2 root mailman  4096 Jan  7 09:38 mailman/templates

# ./check_perms
No problems found

CRONTAB:
  30   15**1-5   mailman /usr/local/bin/python -S 
/usr/local/webapps/mailman/cron/checkdbs
  00   12*** mailman /usr/local/bin/python -S 
/usr/local/webapps/mailman/cron/senddigests
 */2   * *** mailman /usr/local/bin/python -S 
/usr/local/webapps/mailman/cron/qrunner


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[Mailman-Users] Thread not shown allthough In-Reply-To present

[Bram de Kruijff]

Hi all,

allthough I found a lot of questions about why mailman/pipermail
doesn't show threads when mail is transferred by outlook/exchange
in the archives, unfortuanatly no answer solves my problem ;( 

I read in one of the posts that threading is done based on..

- Message-ID
- References
- In-Reply-To

.. and that it should even fallback on topic if all else fails...

But then why doesn't it work? According to the mbox of my archive
mesasages sent by outlook/exchange users don't contain a References
header but DO contain Message-ID and In-Reply-To headers.
In the same archive messages sent with mutt do contain a References
header and are shown threaded

Does pipermail realy check the In-Reply-To?
Is something wrong with the format used? eg;
 
In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

any ideas?
thanks in advance!

Bram
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Re: [Mailman-Users] New install Mailman 2.0 - odd python errors in cron jobs

[ScaryG]

On Thu, 28 Feb 2002 10:47:14 -0500
Chris Hedemark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> What *specific* version of Mailman are you running?

 I downloaded mailman-2.0.tar.gz

> And Python?

 That was noted in my message as well...

> > Python 2.2 (#1, Feb 27 2002, 14:11:31)
> > GCC 2.95.3 20010315 (release) [FreeBSD]] on freebsd4

gf.

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[Mailman-Users] New install Mailman 2.0 - odd python errors in cron jobs

[ScaryG]

Hey folks!

I installed mailman2.0 yesterday on one of my FreeBSD (4.4-R) systems. I
installed Python from ports:

Python 2.2 (#1, Feb 27 2002, 14:11:31)
GCC 2.95.3 20010315 (release) [FreeBSD]] on freebsd4

Everything is working fine, except for when the cron jobs run, each one
spits back some python errors. I get about 4-5 emails with these error
messages every 3 or 4 minutes. This means HUNDREDS in a day and they are
really annoying!

I get stuff like:

/home/mailman/cron/qrunner:0: SyntaxWarning: name '_listcache' is assigned
to before global declaration/usr/local/lib/python2.2/regsub.py:15:
DeprecationWarning: the regsub module is deprecated; please use re.sub() 
DeprecationWarning)

and

/usr/local/lib/python2.2/regsub.py:15: DeprecationWarning: the regsub
module is deprecated; please use re.sub()  DeprecationWarning)

I added a filter rule to direct the cron job emails to the trash and got
442 back in about a 12 hour period.

Any suggestions on how to tame this beast?

Thanks.
Gerry.

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[Mailman-Users] Deleting all list members

[Paul Rubin]

I am trying to 
support someone who wants to manage the subscriber list off of mailman and then 
upload the current list to mailman.  Adding may members is easy, but 
removal is a problem.  I determined that I could make a script 
that:

  config_list 
  -o
  rmlist
  newlist
  config_list 
  -i
This only has one 
short coming, the list password.  I can get the list owner's e-mail from 
the config but not the password.  Can anyone suggest a way to recover the 
password?
 
Thanks.
Paul.

RE: [Mailman-Users] I Suppose that MailMan doesn't work with IPLANET/NETSCAPE Messaging?

[Sergio Sousa]

 
> I assume you mean GID's here, since mailman does not use UID's but
does
> use
> Group ID's to check for rights...

Yes .. I was talking about the GID.


> Did you create a user called mailman and a group called mailman?  Did
you
> setup the crontab for the user mailman so that it runs qrunner every
> minute?
> What happens when you run qrunner manually (check out the cron entries
for
> the valid format)?

Yes I did all that ... except run qrunner manually. And the problem was
on the cron daemon. Thanks for all your help.
Now everything is working very well!!

Thanks all,

Sergio Sousa


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