[Mailman-Users] subscribeak.txt modifications

[Benjamin Young]

Hi all,

First -- thank you for everyone's help figuring out how to customize the
actual welcome message (not the prepend text).

Now, for the problem: I'd like to know if there is a command that needs to
be included in subscribeack.txt that would pull the prepend message and
insert properly (and that probably got erased when they made
subscribeack.txt blank).

Here are the details: I'd like to leave the welcome message blank (as
suggested on this list), so that the prepend text becomes the entire
message. I don't have access to the server but my host has been trying out
all the suggestions you provided.

When the subscribeack.txt is left blank, the prepend portion never appeared
and the welcome message is blank. I figured maybe there had to be something
to prepend above, so had the admin insert a line of text - but the welcome
message now only includes that one line, never the prepended text.

This is what made me think some sort of string needs to be inserted to force
subscribeack.txt to included the proper pre-pend info.

My host's admin could not find any command or variable that would do this
and I don't have access to a Unix machine, so I can't look at the help
files. I did a thorough search of the archives and could only find
suggestions that the subscribeack.txt file be left blank, and prepend text
would automatically appear.

Thanks! Any help is GREATLY appreciated.
Benjamin


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[Mailman-Users] Flaw or feature? moderated lists & non-member posts

[Jeff Garvas]

I've been testing some sample mailing lists and trying to "break the 
rules" for my environment.

For example, I created a list and configured it to be moderated.  Then, I 
posted a message to the list from a non-member account.

One would expect (or atleast I would) that the administration interface 
would say something along the lines of "Post from non-member", but the 
fact is that doesn't occur.

Instead, the fact that the list is moderated takes precedent and you get a 
message along these lines:

"Post to moderated list"

While this is technically correct, a moderated list may wish to bounce 
non-member submissions.  Otherwise, an unsuspecting individual may simply 
approve a post because it appears to be "on topic", and not have a clue 
that the individual is not a member of the list.

If this a flaw?  A bug?

Obviously there has to be a way to make the list say "Post from 
non-member" even if the list is in moderated mode.  The question is, if 
you approve a non-member post at that point, does it get re-injected and 
come up as a post submitted to a moderated list, or does it just go 
through?  (I prefer the latter)

Am I barking up the wrong tree?  Is this not an order of precedence issue?

I'm sort of stumped on it.  I have a specific list I'd like to run that is 
strictly limited to members only.  Due to the volume of subscribers, it is 
clearly possible that someone wouldn't realize a post came from a 
non-subscriber in this scenario.

-Jeff



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[Mailman-Users] Reply-To option, Author Name and Archives

[Topaz11green]

Hello,

I've searched the archives, the FAQ and google and couldn't find the answer 
to this question. So, any help is appreciated.

I'm moving our lists from Majordomo to Mailman and have set up a test list 
where I've sent some test messages from several different e-mail accounts. I 
have the following configuration options set:

General:
Where are replies to list messages directed? Poster is strongly recommended 
for most mailing lists. This list
Privacy:
Hide the sender of a message, replacing it with the list address (Removes 
From, Sender and Reply-To fields)  No
 
When I look at the archives on the web, if the "From:" field in the test.mbox 
file is in the format of "Poster Name" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> or else Poster 
Name <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>then Poster Name is displayed as the Author. If 
the "From:" field is in the format of [EMAIL PROTECTED] (this is how I've 
seen the headers from my AOL account) then the Author is the list e-mail 
address.

When I look at the archived message in either case, the e-mail address of the 
author is the list e-mail address.

If I change the "Reply-To:" option from "This List" to "Poster" then the 
author in the archives html file is the actual author, not the list, and the 
author's e-mail address is given.

Since this is a discussion list, it's useful to have the "Reply-To:" option 
set up as "This List."

The archive of this list is private and subscription needs to be authorized. 
It would be useful for our users to see who actually wrote something, rather 
than the listname in the author field.

E-mail works fine, it's just the archives, which my users really want, that 
are confusing me.

Thanks for your help.

-Susan


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce Messages..

[William Waggoner]

Title: Message



Adam, take a look at logs/bounce ... do you see the 
bounces in there?  My own mailman is set up to bounce after 5 days but you 
can change this to whatever you like.
 
One thing that I have found is that mailman seems 
to require a "standard" bounce message.  It appears that those without DSN 
status are not recognized, perhaps that's happening to you?
 
I can tell you that mailman does do the unsub* 
properly when configured to do it.
 
Bill W

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Adam 
  Giddens 
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  PM
  Subject: [Mailman-Users] Bounce 
  Messages..
  
  Hi,
   
  Is it possible 
  to set mailman to remove bouncing addresses automatically? I have set 
  mailman to send replies to the list and have set the options in the bounce 
  menu to '0' but it doesn't seem to be working..
   
  Have I done 
  something wrong? Can anyone help?
   
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  Magazine
   
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[Mailman-Users] virtual domains

[Eric Sandquist]

Has anybody gotten 
the virtual domain functionality to work?  I need it for my box.  I 
have a dedicated server with serveral domains on it.  I want to switch all 
the majordomo stuff to mailman, if possible.
 
Also, is there any 
cgi or php pages developed to enable a user, once inside one of the sites, 
 to create his/her own list?
 
Thanks...
 
Eric
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[Mailman-Users] Problem using windows XP

[allan]

Ever since I upgraded to windows XP, I have been 
unable to make any administrative changes to the Mailman mailing lists I manage. 
I can reach any administrative page OK, but when I try to implement a change, I 
return to the password page. This happens even when I set my browser to "accept 
all cookies," and even if I clear all the cookies and start over. If I log onto 
the administrative page from a non-XP computer, things work fine. Has anyone 
else had this problem?

Re: [Mailman-Users] RE: digest sent to list posting address, why?

[hostmaster]

DOH!  

I just compared those headers to another email.  "Delivered-to:"

uh, seems I subscribed that address to test the digest and promptly forgot 
I'd done so.

I'll just go stand in the corner now.

Thanks for listing, hope it provided some amusement at least.
*sheepish grin*

~steven

On Wed, 5 Jun 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> thanks for the idea chuq, but I'm fairly certain the the 'on belhalf of'
> is a result of mailman's "Show member addrs so they're not directly
> recognizable as email addrs?" feature under 'privacy options' which I do
> have set to 'yes' for the list in question.
> 
> Full headers on the message in question follow here:
> 
> Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Received: (qmail 26787 invoked from network); 4 Jun 2002 21:45:08 -
> Received: from unknown (HELO rattletrap.shults.org) ([216.231.50.34]) 
> (envelope-sender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)
>   by mail11.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP
>   for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 4 Jun 2002 21:45:08 -
> Received: from rattletrap.shults.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1])
>   by rattletrap.shults.org (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id 
> g54Lk3001611
>   for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Tue, 4 Jun 2002 14:46:03 -0700
> Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2002 14:45:04 -0700
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: discussion digest, Vol 1 #1 - 20 msgs
> X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.11
> MIME-version: 1.0
> Content-type: multipart/mixed; 
> boundary=216.231.50.34.503.1589.1023227104.823.6791
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11
> Precedence: bulk
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> X-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> List-Help: 
> 
> List-Post: 
> List-Subscribe: 
> ,
>   
> 
> List-Id: A discussion list with an online archive for users of 
> shakespeare-monologues.org 
> List-Unsubscribe: 
> ,
>   
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, 5 Jun 2002, Chuq Von Rospach wrote:
> 
> > On 6/5/02 4:43 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > >> One of my new lists sent the first digest to the list posting
> > >> address today 
> > >> from [EMAIL PROTECTED] 'on behalf of'
> > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >> to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
> > 
> > Did you check the Received: lines to make sure this thing didn't make a
> > round trip through some user's mail client? Because that "on behalf of"
> > sounds an awful lot like it got forwarded or redirected. Take a look at a
> > set of full headers to see whether maybe it got sent out normally, and then
> > someone who received it did this to you Um, for you. Um...
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] RE: digest sent to list posting address, why?

[hostmaster]

thanks for the idea chuq, but I'm fairly certain the the 'on belhalf of'
is a result of mailman's "Show member addrs so they're not directly
recognizable as email addrs?" feature under 'privacy options' which I do
have set to 'yes' for the list in question.

Full headers on the message in question follow here:

Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: (qmail 26787 invoked from network); 4 Jun 2002 21:45:08 -
Received: from unknown (HELO rattletrap.shults.org) ([216.231.50.34]) 
(envelope-sender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)
  by mail11.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP
  for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 4 Jun 2002 21:45:08 -
Received: from rattletrap.shults.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1])
by rattletrap.shults.org (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id 
g54Lk3001611
for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Tue, 4 Jun 2002 14:46:03 -0700
Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2002 14:45:04 -0700
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: discussion digest, Vol 1 #1 - 20 msgs
X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.11
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: multipart/mixed; 
boundary=216.231.50.34.503.1589.1023227104.823.6791
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11
Precedence: bulk
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
List-Help: 

List-Post: 
List-Subscribe: 
,


List-Id: A discussion list with an online archive for users of 
shakespeare-monologues.org 
List-Unsubscribe: 
,





On Wed, 5 Jun 2002, Chuq Von Rospach wrote:

> On 6/5/02 4:43 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> >> One of my new lists sent the first digest to the list posting
> >> address today 
> >> from [EMAIL PROTECTED] 'on behalf of'
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> Did you check the Received: lines to make sure this thing didn't make a
> round trip through some user's mail client? Because that "on behalf of"
> sounds an awful lot like it got forwarded or redirected. Take a look at a
> set of full headers to see whether maybe it got sent out normally, and then
> someone who received it did this to you Um, for you. Um...
> 
> 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] RE: digest sent to list posting address, why?

[Chuq Von Rospach]

On 6/5/02 4:43 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


>> One of my new lists sent the first digest to the list posting
>> address today 
>> from [EMAIL PROTECTED] 'on behalf of'
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> to [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Did you check the Received: lines to make sure this thing didn't make a
round trip through some user's mail client? Because that "on behalf of"
sounds an awful lot like it got forwarded or redirected. Take a look at a
set of full headers to see whether maybe it got sent out normally, and then
someone who received it did this to you Um, for you. Um...


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[Mailman-Users] RE: digest sent to list posting address, why?

[hostmaster]

hmm, well, if no ideas, can anyone confirm whether or not this is expected 
or unexpected behavior?

would a list of related settings from the admin webgui be useful?

tia,
~steven

> -Original Message-
> From: Steven [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 7:28 PM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: digest sent to entire list, why?
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'm running 2.0.11
> 
> One of my new lists sent the first digest to the list posting 
> address today 
> from [EMAIL PROTECTED] 'on behalf of' 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Coincidentally(?) the time stamp matched that of a post I had 
> approved and which was sent at the same time as the digest.  
> It was a simple plain text post I'd approved (mime is 
> disabled for the list in question.) 
> 
> My impression had been, from the digest settings I'd chosen 
> in the admin webgui, that the digest would only be sent to 
> list members who had opted to receive the digest instead of 
> separate posts.  I'm baffled by the digest having been mailed 
> to the list posting address and therefore all members of the 
> list.  (and a thought which just came to mind, will the 
> digest be included in the next digest since it went to the 
> list address? ug.)
> 
> I've searched the admin webgui settings and found nothing, 
> I've read the readmes and found nothing, I searched 
> http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py with all the strings 
> and search types I could think of and came up with nothing.  
> I browsed through the TOC there and found nothing.
> 
> What am I overlooking?  How do I prevent the digest from 
> being sent to the entire list via the list's posting address? 
>  I had 7 unsubs within 10 minutes of that going out, so I'd 
> like to prevent a repeat.
> 
> tia,
> ~steven
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[Mailman-Users] deleting held-messages...

[David Sammons]

I have a cron to delete held-messages, but after that
i can see there is a lot of new held-messages again. I
want to know why appear in mailman once again those
messages?

Thanks a lot 

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Re: [Mailman-Users] recover a passwd!

[Dan Mick]

> Hi there!
> 
>How can i recover a password from a list???
> 
> Thanks a lot!!!
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[Mailman-Users] recover a passwd!

[David Sammons]

Hi there!

   How can i recover a password from a list???

Thanks a lot!!!

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[Mailman-Users] bizarre archiving problem

[Joel Uckelman]

I've been having a problem with archiving that has me puzzled:

One of my list's archives displays in each message's From header the user's
address followed by his name in parentheses. Another of my list's archives 
displays the list address in the From field in place of the user's address, 
again followed by his name in parentheses. What's driving me crazy is that
a dumpdb on each list's config.db shows that the lists have the *same* 
settings for any attributes that seem relevant! Both have anonymous_list = 
0, which is what I thought controlled address replacement, and no address 
replacement shows up in the raw mboxes.

You can take a look at the text archives here:

http://lists.ellipsis.cx/pipermail/testlist/2002-June.txt
http://lists.ellipsis.cx/pipermail/eia/2002-June.txt

Where in the archiver code do such replacements take place? I found 
process() function in Cleanse.py where a block that does such substitutions 
is executed if
anonymous_list is true, but I don't see any place in the archiver code that 
calls process().

If anyone can tell me what's going on here, please do. I'm stumped.

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[Mailman-Users] Bounce Messages..

[Adam Giddens]

Title: Message



Hi,
 
Is it possible to 
set mailman to remove bouncing addresses automatically? I have set mailman 
to send replies to the list and have set the options in the bounce menu to '0' 
but it doesn't seem to be working..
 
Have I done 
something wrong? Can anyone help?
 
Ad.
 
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Magazine
 
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m: 07980 223075
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[Mailman-Users] store more data than email

[Angelo Marcos Rigo]

Hi list,

I actually need to store more data from the user than his email, 
in a way to make marketing considerations, in a sql database;
can it be done at the subscription moment ? and make any relationship
that can remove the data if the user unsubscribe? or at least, fill an
column saying the user 
has unsubscribed?

Ângelo Marcos Rigo
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Email Header

[Sinan Kaan Yerli]

(04/06/2002 17:13) Doug La Farge:

>using .procmailrc:
>
>:0
>* ^To:.*newsletter
>* ^Subject:.*Newsletter
>| ./sendletter.pl
>
>Looking at sendletter.pl:
>
>#!/usr/bin/perl
>use Mail::Sendmail;
>
>while (<>){ $email .= $_ }
>$sql = "select email from users";
>#loop the SQL call
>%mail = ( To  => "#emailaddress",
> From=> '[EMAIL PROTECTED]',
> Subject => 'Our weekly news letter',
> Message => "$email"
>);
>sendmail(%mail) or die $Mail::Sendmail::error;
>#end the SQL call
>
>Some trickery is still require to strip out all the header info and 
>just grab the body.

It can easily be done within the procmail recipe:

:0
* SELECTING RULES
{
:0 fBw
| sendletter.pl

# apply further rules to the MAIL e.g save to another mailbox
# or pipe/save into /dev/null
# ...
:0 a.
...
}

The trick is the "B" switch: "f"ilter "B"ody and "w"ait.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] multiple reply-to adresses?

[Marc MERLIN]

On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 10:05:12AM +0200, Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder wrote:
> Yo!
> 
> Mailman (stable - 2.0.9-1 Debian pkg) seems to not allow multiple
> adresses in a Reply-To: field (set via web interface as explicit return
> address), while many mailers do not have a problem with it.
> 
> Are there any (good ;) reasons against multiple Reply-To addresses?

That's fixed in mailman 2.1b2

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[Mailman-Users] multiple reply-to adresses?

[Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder]

Yo!

Mailman (stable - 2.0.9-1 Debian pkg) seems to not allow multiple
adresses in a Reply-To: field (set via web interface as explicit return
address), while many mailers do not have a problem with it.

Are there any (good ;) reasons against multiple Reply-To addresses?

cheers & thanks for answers
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[Mailman-Users] Even posts to unrestricted lists require admin approval

[Ramon Cahenzli]

Hello

I have set up Mailman 2.0.11 (upgrade from 2.0.8, problem present there too), sendmail 
8.10.2 on a Linux 2.2.16 box. So far everything runs perfectly well, i.e. posts come 
through 
to the wrapper and are sent out.

The DNS situation is that Mailman is running on a webserver (www.foo.com) which has an 
MX list entry for foo.com at highest priority. All mailing lists are instructed to 
prefer 
"foo.com" as domain name instead of www.foo.com. This actually works just as expected 
so far - mails to [EMAIL PROTECTED] get through to the wrapper.

I have two mailing lists with EXACTLY the same settings. The only difference is that 
they 
have different members. Both are unrestricted, in "Privacy Options" the option "Must 
posts 
be approved by an administrator?" is set to No, member_posting_only is off, "Addresses 
of 
members accepted for posting.." is empty. 

For list 1 all posts (whether from a member or no) are held for approval and I get a 
message 
on the admin e-mail. On list 2 all posts go through just fine.

What am I doing wrong? I fail to see the error after several hours of trying various 
things. 
Even deleted one of the lists and recreated it just to see what would happen -- same 
situation.

Thanks

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