[Mailman-Users] removing host name

2002-09-29 Thread Adrian James Lester

Firstly, hello all.

I am using Mailman 2.0.11.

Is there a way to disable the preferred host name entirely as part of the 
list addresses? Our subdomains are not registered on the internet and so I 
need e-mail to come to and go from:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

rather than:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

if it is ever to get beyond our intranet.

If I set the preferred host name blank then the address turns into:
list@.domain.com
which isn't very helpful.

Many thanks in advance,

Adrian Lester.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] removing host name

2002-09-29 Thread Adrian James Lester


Aha! I see my problem. I was following the method of the default setting 
which I found there and just putting the hostname part of 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] into that box. Having put in domain.co.uk 
everything is fine.

Thanks,

Adrian.

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[Mailman-Users] What happened to my administration login?

2002-09-29 Thread Beachfrontads
I paid someone to install Mailman for me in March of this year. Everything has been fine til now. I'm getting this error message when I try to login to the administrative page:

Mailman CGI error!!!

The expected gid of the Mailman CGI wrapper did not match the gid as set by the Web server.The most likely cause is that Mailman was configured and installed incorrectly. Please read the INSTALL instructions again, paying close attention to the --with-cgi-gid configure option. This entry is being stored in your syslog: Failure to exec script. WANTED gid 99, GOT gid -1. (Reconfigure to take -1?)


I have not changed the script. What happened and how can I fix it? I have no knowledge of scripts.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you,
Julie


[Mailman-Users] Digest Help

2002-09-29 Thread James Becker



Hello,

I am using your mailman software to distribute my 
website newsletter, I have a written a front page to the command that allows for 
subscribe and unsubscribe however my newsletter is in HTML format and when 
subscribing I would like it to default to "not" plain subscription as default, 
is there a command switch that I can append to the subscribe command to do this? 
Or do I have to fire off another email with the switch commands in?

Any help would be great!

Thanks
James Becker


[Mailman-Users] mailman on openbsd 3.1-stable

2002-09-29 Thread julien Touche


Hi

i'm trying to install mailman from the openbsd ports (with 
mailman-2.0.12 pkg,
ports build, or build from 2.0.13 src.
In each case, no problem for building but in web cgi-bin
python 2.1 is installed (same with 2.2 pkg) and i've followed 
README.OpenBSD, but i have in
apache error_log:


[- Mailman Version: 2.0.13 -]
[- Traceback --]
Traceback (most recent call last):
File /usr/local/mailman-2.0.13/scripts/driver, line 66, in run_main
  from Mailman.Logging.StampedLogger import StampedLogger
File /usr/local/mailman-2.0.13/Mailman/Logging/StampedLogger.py,
line 18, in ?
  import time
ImportError: No module named time
[- Python Information -]
sys.version= 2.1.2 (#1, Apr 12 2002, 18:58:54)
[GCC 2.95.3 20010125 (prerelease)]
sys.executable = /usr/local/bin/python
sys.prefix = /usr/local
sys.exec_prefix= /usr/local
sys.path   = /usr/local
sys.platform   = openbsd3
[- Environment Variables -]
  DOCUMENT_ROOT: /var/www/htdocs
  SERVER_ADDR: 192.168.2.2
  HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING: gzip, deflate, compress;q=0.9
  SERVER_PORT: 80
  REMOTE_ADDR: 192.168.2.11
  SERVER_SOFTWARE: Apache
  HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE: en-us, en;q=0.91, fr;q=0.83,
fr-fr;q=0.74, zh;q=0.66, zh-cn;q=0.58, ko;q=0.49, ja;q=0.41, zh-hk;q=0.38
  GATEWAY_INTERFACE: CGI/1.1
  SERVER_NAME: netclust
  HTTP_CONNECTION: keep-alive
  HTTP_USER_AGENT: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0;
en-US; rv:1.1) Gecko/20020826
  HTTP_ACCEPT_CHARSET: ISO-8859-1, utf-8;q=0.66, *;q=0.66
  HTTP_ACCEPT:
text/xml,application/xml,application/xhtml+xml,text/html;q=0.9,text/plain;q=0.8,video/x-mng,image/png,image/jp1
  REQUEST_URI: /intranet/mailman/listinfo
  HTTP_CACHE_CONTROL: max-age=0
  QUERY_STRING:
  SERVER_PROTOCOL: HTTP/1.1
  HTTP_KEEP_ALIVE: 300
  HTTP_HOST: netclust
  REQUEST_METHOD: GET
  SERVER_SIGNATURE:
  SCRIPT_NAME: /intranet/mailman/listinfo
  SERVER_ADMIN: root@netclust
  SCRIPT_FILENAME: /usr/local/mailman-2.0.13/cgi-bin/listinfo
  PYTHONPATH: /usr/local/mailman-2.0.13
  REMOTE_PORT: 3049

the problem seems to be in import time
when i try it in command-line

$python -v
...
Python 2.1.2 (#1, Apr 12 2002, 18:58:54)
...
   import time
dlopen(/usr/local/lib/python2.1/lib-dynload/timemodule.so, 1);
import time # dynamically loaded from
/usr/local/lib/python2.1/lib-dynload/timemodule.so

so it's ok

i've check google and mailman mailing-list. some people have asked for
the problem but nowhere is a response ...

So have you an idea ?


thanks in advance
Regards

Julien Touche




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[Mailman-Users] Errors installing mailman-2.0.13 / Python-2.2.1 / Solaris 8

2002-09-29 Thread Friedman, Jeff
Title: Errors installing mailman-2.0.13 / Python-2.2.1 / Solaris 8 





./configure returns errors installing mailman-2.0.13 with Python-2.2.1 under the Solaris 8 operating environment, Ultra 5.

The initial errors I encounter were with the UID and group ID checking.
I fixed these by following the advice from the post below: 
Re: [Mailman-Users] Solaris install problem



David Sammons [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DS 
You have a module pwd in python2.../Modules/Setup which it's commented, just uncomment that and
re-compile python and if it's necessary MM too... 


But the odd this is that with Python 2.2.1, it should auto-detect and automatically build the pwd module, without hacking Setup. If id doesn't do that, then there's a problem with the Python build process, but I didn't see that when I built it on SourceForge's compile farm. -Barry

==


Now the script runs until this point: 


checking for mail wrapper GID... 60001
checking for CGI wrapper GID... 60001
checking for CGI extensions... no
Traceback (most recent call last):
 File conftest.py, line 2, in ?
 from socket import *
 File /usr/local/lib/python2.2/socket.py, line 41, in ?
 from _socket import *
ImportError: No module named _socket
 pwd


Anyone have an idea how to edit the /Python-2.2.1/Modules/Setup file, or should I look for another combination of source codes?

Thank you,


-Jeff Friedman
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[Mailman-Users] Subscribe without Confirmation - Please HELP!

2002-09-29 Thread Miretsky, Anya

How do I subscribe a user through the email interface with approval? 

I don't want subscribers  to receive confirmations or as an administrator
have to get emails that I have to approve each subscriber.

I am looking for something like this in the subject line:
Approve subscribe password address = subscribersemail

The above doesn't work, does anyone know if something like this can be done
in mailman?

Anya Miretsky
Computer Technology Dept.
Brooklyn Botanic Garden
1000 Washington Avenue
Brooklyn, NY  11225

(718)623-7265
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[Mailman-Users] ## Mailman Questions for FAQ

2002-09-29 Thread Fred Showker

Greetings

QUESTIONS FOR MAILMAN

#1 Sudden deluge of SPAM hitting the list

   Under the Security section of the ADMIN it says:

   ... See forbidden

   However I cannot find forbidden anywhere on any of the
   help pages or any of the other pages. Also searched the
   documentation and the word doesn't occur there either.

   Will those 'frequent' spammers be blocked if I add their
   domains to the block screen?

   How do I block them without getting a notice?

Hold posts with header value matching a specified regexp.
Allows you to filter out known addresses or domains that function
primarily as spam providers.

   I do not want to HOLD those posts, I want them blocked and
   deleted without being notified.

#2 Sudden deluge of bounces or undeliverables

   The list has been operating fine for months using this set
   of subscribers. Suddenly, yesterday, I get 160 undeliverables
   from known good addresses. Some of them also actually got
   posted. Today I get 7 more pages of bounces.

#3 Bouncing Non-Subscribers

   I would rather DISCARD and delete all posts from non-subscribers
   and NOT get any notice of any kind.
   The option doesn't seem to be available. How do I do that?

#4 When are duplicates deleted?

   If I get duplicate addresses, are they deleted immediately?

#5 Remote Unsubscribe

   Is there a better way to UNSUBSCRIBE people using an email?

   It is rediculously tedious to remove people (who post a Remove Me
   to the list) by going to the member management page. 
   If you've got a list of 50,000 subscribers, you have to first
   load all the initial page, then try to find the page where the
   address is located, then find that person to UNSUBSCRIBE them.

As a side note: the interface is better than most other listservers
however your comments on the help buttons are usually no help.
They usually just repeat what was said on the main page. Many
times they are cryptic, or phrased in such a way that it is
unclear what option to actually pick.

thanks for the help. The program seems to work okay.

Thanks for reading

Fred Showker

Admin: The Design Cafe List:
http://ellington.nmailer.com/mailman/listinfo/cafe





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[Mailman-Users] members of a list

2002-09-29 Thread Elisha Wong

Hello
Just wonder if I get a text file of all the members of a list
I could not find any options in the web interface
thanks
Elisha


Elisha Wong
Support Officer
Systems and Desktop Services
Division of Information
Australian National University

Canberra  ACT 0200  Australia
Ph: +61 2 6125 6615
Fax: +61 2 6125 0449
Mobile 0401 027 711
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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[Mailman-Users] Base URL corrupted

2002-09-29 Thread Warren Woodward

Forgive me for bringing up what must be an old and common error, but I'll
be damned if I can find any source for help.  One of our users managed to
change the base URL of his list to an invalid path, and has of course
broken everything.  The help files say simply that this must be fixed at
the server command line by the administrator, but how I do this has
utterly slipped past my perception.

If someone could point me to an appropriate README of FAQ, I'd be humbly 
appreciative.  This is driving me nuts. 

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Re: [Mailman-Users] What happened to my administration login?

2002-09-29 Thread Tom Whiting

Hello, julie

This error tells you exactly how configure mailman to work correctly. 
Apparently you've changed something in the server, and now mailman doesn't 
like the setup.

In this case, it looks liek your apache gid got lost in the shuffle somehow. 
Have you tried restarting http? Have you installed any software into your 
system that would change users/groups?

Most importantly, have you used mailman since it was installed, and verified 
that it was actually working, and if you did, how long ago did it quit?




On Wednesday 25 September 2002 09:14 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I paid someone to install Mailman for me in March of this year.  Everything
 has been fine til now.  I'm getting this error message when I try to login
 to the administrative page:

 Mailman CGI error!!!

 The expected gid of the Mailman CGI wrapper did not match the gid as set by
 the Web server.The most likely cause is that Mailman was configured and
 installed incorrectly. Please read the INSTALL instructions again, paying
 close attention to the --with-cgi-gid configure option. This entry is being
 stored in your syslog: Failure to exec script. WANTED gid 99, GOT gid -1.
 (Reconfigure to take -1?)
 

 I have not changed the script.  What happened and how can I fix it?  I have
 no knowledge of scripts.

 Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

 Thank you,
 Julie


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Qmail Mailman (yet again)

2002-09-29 Thread Tom Whiting

Hello, Brian,
Check to make sure that your host is allowed to forward (read the instructions 
on setting up mailman with qmail). Chances are this is your problem

On Thursday 26 September 2002 01:16 pm, Brian Reichholf wrote:
 right, i'm having some problems with qmail and mailman

 i've set up mailman, and it seems to work fine.
 i log in to the administrative interface, and subscribe some users
 (mail-addresses) and it sends out the information with out a problem (if i
 want it to)

 well, now comes my problem though:
 i've created the alias files (/var/mailman is the home dir, and info is the
 listname) in /var/qmail/alias (yes, that is the alias homedir)

 .qmail-info

 |preline /var/mailman/mail/wrapper post info

 .qmail-info-admin

 |preline /var/mailman/mail/wrapper mailowner info

 .qmail-info-request

 |preline /var/mailman/mail/wrapper mailcmd info

 .qmail-info-owner
 info-admin

 but if i send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] then it won't forward them

 furthermore my mm_cfg.py contains:
 SMTPHOST = 'localhost'
 SMTPPORT = 25
 MTA_ALIASES_STYLE = 'qmail'

 what am i doing wrong?
 help would be greatly appreciated!!

 regards,
 -Brian Reichholf


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[Mailman-Users] Re: members of a list

2002-09-29 Thread Will Yardley

Elisha Wong wrote:

 Just wonder if I get a text file of all the members of a list
 I could not find any options in the web interface

$mailman_base/bin/list_members

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[Mailman-Users] Mailto link?

2002-09-29 Thread Sparklez Grrl
Title: Norm. Stat



Hi!I was wondering if there 
was a way for me to .. make a mailto link to a [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(for example).. that goes directly to the mailman database and submits them 
asa subscriber and don't have to go to the general list info page? 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] MM Mac OS X ?

2002-09-29 Thread Peter Tattersall

How helpful this is remains to be seen, but I have been running mailman 
with qmail under OS X for a couple of months now. I installed under 
10.1 first, using fink to install python, and installing qmail 
essentially from scratch. After I installed qmail I did a fair amount 
of testing to ensure that qmail was accepting and delivering mail 
properly. This is running on my home system, but my daughters' systems 
are networked via a router, and the whole network is accessing the net 
through an ADSL connection with static IP and my own domain name. I 
didn't install mailman until I had mail working properly for everyone 
and was sure that there were no open relays.

I installed 2.0.12 first, then upgraded almost immediately to 2.0.13. I 
had a couple of problems with permissions, so I reconfigured with 
various options set. All of this was still under 10.1. After the 
upgrade to 10.2 I had no obvious problems - everything worked - but 
when I checked the system log I found I was getting a lot of complaints 
about pre-binding on python. I haven't worked out what's going on 
there. It's not that the message doesn't make sense, but that it is 
intermittent. If I reboot, sometimes the pre-binding message goes away. 
I haven't spent much time on it, and won't as long as the system 
operates properly. Eventually fink will catch up with 10.2 or I'll 
rebuild with the system's version of python - but not today.

My needs are light. On a busy day I might get ten incoming messages and 
direct them to a couple of hundred address. I've had one glitch so far, 
but it was a qmail freeze which resulted from the trigger file being 
left in an odd state after I killed the system one night while playing 
with some early software. I should know better than to run version 0.01 
of anything  I reset the perms on the trigger and rebooted, and 
eventually qmail came out of its trance. Mailman itslef has been solid. 
I was running LetterRip under OS 9, and my users really appreciate the 
web interface and archiving which mailman provides.

Bottom line is, mailman can run under 10.2 but since I haven't tried to 
install directly I doubt I can help with your problem, though I'm 
willing to try. I just hope this is encouraging enough that you 
persevere.

What are you using for mail service?

On Sunday, September 29, 2002, at 08:23  PM, Brent Rossow wrote:

 I searched the archives for the past several months and found very 
 little
 mention of anyone running Mailman on Mac OS X.  Back in January, when 
 I was
 setting up a new mail server for our agency, I went with Mac OS X 10.1 
 for
 the plain old SMTP/POP needs, but I also needed a listserv package.  
 At the
 time, I tried unsuccessfully to get Mailman set up but had no luck in 
 the
 timeframe I was allotted.  Instead, I've been running Majordomo pretty
 successfully since then, using Webmin for my various list 
 administrators to
 do their thing.

 I'm now in a position to re-evaluate our listserv options as I'm 
 planning to
 step up to Mac OS X Server 10.2 (Jaguar) in the next month or two 
 (probably
 implementing over the Thanksgiving break.)  I like the features it 
 includes
 and it integrates perfectly with our all-Mac network.  I'd like to take
 another look at Mailman, but this time I'm not too proud to ask for 
 help.

 Long story short, I'm running Mac OSXS 10.2 on a development machine.  
 I
 spent the better part of this afternoon trying to get it configured.  
 I've
 got the developer tools installed, of course, and followed the MM 
 directions
 to the absolute letter.  I've created the mailman user and group as
 directed.  I created the mailman directory with proper permissions.
 Everything looked good when I did config and 'make install' but when I 
 use
 the check_perms script (after creating a test list) I get the 
 following:


 directory permissions must be at least 02775:
 /usr/local/mailman/archives/private/test.mbox
 directory permissions must be at least 02775:
 /usr/local/mailman/archives/public/test.mbox
 directory permissions must be at least 02775: 
 /usr/local/mailman/lists/test
 Traceback (most recent call last):
   File bin/check_perms, line 281, in ?
 checkmail()
   File bin/check_perms, line 202, in checkmail
 mode = statmode(wrapper)
   File bin/check_perms, line 74, in statmode
 return os.stat(path)[ST_MODE]
 OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory:
 '/usr/local/mailman/mail/wrapper'


 The first three lines I understand the problem, although I don't know 
 why MM
 didn't set the permissions properly when I created the list.  I have 
 no idea
 what the rest is saying.  I know the last line is looking for the file 
 in
 question, which apparently wasn't created during the install process.  
 The
 'wrapper' file is simply missing -- why, I have no idea.  I should 
 note here
 that aside from the first three lines, I got exactly the same error
 immediately after running the make and before any lists were created.  
 I