[Mailman-Users] Re: Members of a list

2002-12-09 Thread Jon Carnes
On Mon, 2002-12-09 at 02:32, Faruk Ahmed wrote:
 
 Where can I see the members of list ? I looked in /home/mailman/lists/.. but
 could not see any file to show members.
 
 I want to keep backup of the lists including members email address and
 configuration of the lists. Does /home/mailman/lists/* cover everything?
 Thanks
 
 Faruk
 

Yes, backing up /home/mailman/lists/.. will save list configurations and
membership information.  The key file for any list is: config.db

If you want a text copy of each list and its configuration you can use:

/home/mailman/bin/dumpdb -o - /home/mailman/lists/listname/config.db 

Dumpdb dumps out the config.db database and can also be used to upload
edited text directly into a database.

For further information, see the FAQ and archives.

Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py

Searchable Archives:
http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/

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[Mailman-Users] apache configuration - newbie

2002-12-09 Thread Denis Heitbrock
hi,

i'm running rh 8.0 with mailman-2.0.13-3 with apache 2.0.40-8 but i don't
know how to configure the apache httpd.conf file.
i did the following configuration but everytime i visit the url i got access
forbidden.

ScriptAlias /mailman/ /var/mailman/cgi-bin/

Directory /var/mailman/cgi-bin
Options ExecCGI
AllowOverride None
Allow from from all
Order allow,deny
/Directory


thxxx for help


greetz
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Re: [Mailman-Users] I'm always lost...

2002-12-09 Thread Jon Carnes
Are you using Apache as the web server?  If so, then what group does the
web server run as (GID)?  I'm not familiar with the default on HP UX.  

Also, did you install Mailman from Source?  If so, what parameters did
you use with the ./configure command?  You may simply need to re-install
with the proper GID specified for your Apache install.

If you have already set-up your GID properly then the next thing to look
at is the exact entries you added to your httpd.conf file for support of
Mailman.

Good Luck - Jon Carnes

On Mon, 2002-12-09 at 04:01, MITCHELL,STEPHANE (HP-France,ex2) wrote:
 Hello All,
 
 I'have always the same message want I want to open the web Interface for
 Mailman (2.0.3 and 
 now udgrated to 2.0.13) (Message : Bug in mailman, etc...). The only trace I
 found in logs is :
 ARCHIVE CORRUPTS but with stamptime far aways... 
 I'have also change the parameters in Defaults.py to disable archiving...
 At lest, my real first problem (except to have the web interface working
 again), is to have the
 possiblility to approve the waiting request without the web interface...
 and I realy don't know 
 how to do that...
 Any help is appreciate...
 Thank's in advance...
 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] apache configuration - newbie

2002-12-09 Thread Jon Carnes
On Mon, 2002-12-09 at 08:58, Denis Heitbrock wrote:
 hi,
 
 i'm running rh 8.0 with mailman-2.0.13-3 with apache 2.0.40-8 but i don't
 know how to configure the apache httpd.conf file.
 i did the following configuration but everytime i visit the url i got access
 forbidden.
 
 ScriptAlias /mailman/ /var/mailman/cgi-bin/
 
 Directory /var/mailman/cgi-bin
 Options ExecCGI
 AllowOverride None
 Allow from from all
 Order allow,deny
 /Directory
 
 

Looks good - as long as mailman is installed to /var/mailman/..
Are you loading the alias module: AddModule mod_alias.c?

What are the rights on your /var/mailman/cgi-bin directory?
drwxrwsr-x2 root mailman cgi-bin

  -rwxr-sr-x1 root mailman admin
  -rwxr-sr-x1 root mailman admindb
  -rwxr-sr-x1 root mailman archives
  -rwxr-sr-x1 root mailman edithtml
  -rwxr-sr-x1 root mailman handle_opts
  -rwxr-sr-x1 root mailman htdig
  -rwxr-sr-x1 root mailman listinfo
  -rwxr-sr-x1 root mailman options
  -rwxr-sr-x1 root mailman private
  -rwxr-sr-x1 root mailman roster
  -rwxr-sr-x1 root mailman subscribe
  -rwxr-sr-x1 root mailman updateTOC


What group (GID) does apache run as on your server, and did you setup
Mailman to use the proper GID?  See the FAQ if you don't understand this
question.

===
Here is a copy of the httpd.conf Mailman setup from one of my working
installations.  It looks just like yours.

  # Set up ScriptAlias for Gnu Mailman service
  ScriptAlias /mailman/ /home/mailman/cgi-bin/

  Directory /home/mailman/cgi-bin/
  AllowOverride None
  Options ExecCGI
  Order allow,deny
  Allow from all
  /Directory

  # Point to pipermail public mailing list archives
  Alias /pipermail/ /home/mailman/archives/public/

===

Good luck - Jon Carnes


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Bad Archive link in moved lists?

2002-12-09 Thread Jon Carnes
This is discussed in the archives.  I believe some folks have even
donated scripts to help fix this type of problem.  Sorry I don't have
any examples handy.

You can fix it using the withlist command, but some of the archived
examples make it very easy - and remove the trial and error.

Good Luck - Jon Carnes

On Mon, 2002-12-09 at 02:06, Liam Routt wrote:
 I've moved some lists from one machine (zephyr) to another one (alita) and 
 in the process I've upgraded to MM2.1b5. All is well with some of the 
 lists, so far, but I have noticed that with some of the lists the Go to 
 list archives link on the admin pages, and the list Archives link on the 
 listinfo page, show the old zephyr link. That is a problem as that machine 
 isn't alive right now...
 
 Any idea why some of the lists have migrated fine and others not?
 
 And, how can I fix up the links for the pages which are wrong?
 
 Take care,
 
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[Mailman-Users] How to delete archives?

2002-12-09 Thread Thomas Spellman
How do you delete one archived post, or all archives for a list?

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[Mailman-Users] non-wrapping mail in Pipermail archive

2002-12-09 Thread David Gordon
I've looked in the FAQs

I see some mails don't wrap when viewed in my Pipermail archive. I have
one which is from a Yahoo user. No doubt that's the problem! My messages
are run through StripMime to remove HTML and attachments. The Yahoo mail
reported...

--- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts ---
multipart/alternative
  text/plain (text body -- kept)
  text/html
---

Obviously the remaining plain text wasn't set to wrap and so the archive
page has to be scrolled right to read the message. A real pain!

How can I deal with this? Is there another script somewhere I can use to
force messages like this one to wrap at a given character count?

Do other archives (MHonArc?) deal with this problem better?

Mailman 2.0.13 user BTW.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Configuration

2002-12-09 Thread Jon Carnes
Surely you haven't read the documentation...

To quote Jeremy Portzer:
To find out information about an RPM's maker, etc., run rpm -qip
filename.rpm .  If you run that command on the Red Hat Linux
mailman-2.0.13-1.i386.rpm, you'll see a bunch of EXTREMELY important
setup notes -- things you must do after installing the RPM.  Follow
those instructions!  Don't complain if you don't follow them and stuff
doesn't work!  *grin*

If that doesn't resolve your problems, then check out the FAQ entry:

http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.014.htp

Take care - Jon Carnes

On Mon, 2002-12-09 at 02:05, Edwin Humphries wrote:
 G'day,
 
 I'm trying to install mailman to manage a couple of mailing lists. We've got it 
installed, and run 
 the tests (etc). Setting up a test list results in an email giving URls for the web 
configuration 
 facility, which appears to work fine, and the subscribe page.  Subscribing to it 
results in an 
 email which give the test@servername and test-request@servername links. Neither 
work, giving a 
 550 5.1.1 email address... User unknown error.
 
 Am I missing something here? Surely mailman doesn't requrie the test@servername and 
test-
 request@servername to be configured manually on the server!
 
 It's a RH7.2 server, running sendmail and apache. We're running mailman-2.0.13, the 
redhat rpm 
 downloaded from rpmfind.net
 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Umbrella lists

2002-12-09 Thread Jon Carnes
Version 2.0.x won't de-dup.  Read the FAQ entry:
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.005.htp

Good luck - Jon Carnes

On Fri, 2002-12-06 at 15:03, Sandy Hansen wrote:
 Here's a query probably addressed in documentation, but there is so much
 
 documentation to plow through, thought a quick query might be a more
 efficient 
 use of my limited time.
 
 I have installed seven Mailman lists on a website I maintain. If I set
 up an 
 umbrella list, will it de-dup names, since I have a group which is 
 automatically subscribed to ALL of these little-used lists? I'd love to
 send a 
 message to all lists, but don't want people to receive it seven times. 
 
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[Mailman-Users] broken scripts

2002-12-09 Thread Tom Shore
I'm not entirely certain if this is the right forum for this question, one
of the Python lists may be better, but ah well.

I'm attempting to get Mailman 2.0.13 working on a Sun machine running
Solaris 2.8, Apache 1.3.23, and Python 2.2.2.

I've installed both mailman and python from source and set up the various
permissions for mailman correctly. When trying to look at
http://my.server/mailman/listinfo/ with my browser I get a page saying:


Bug in Mailman version 2.0.13

We're sorry, we hit a bug!

Please inform the webmaster for this site of this problem.
Printing of traceback and other system information has been
explicitly inhibited, but the webmaster can find this information
in the Mailman error logs. 


There wasn't anything in the mailman error logs, but there was an entry in
apache's logs:


[- Mailman Version: 2.0.13 -]
[- Traceback --]
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/local/mailman/scripts/driver, line 66, in run_main
from Mailman.Logging.StampedLogger import StampedLogger
  File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Logging/StampedLogger.py, line 18, in
?
import time
ImportError: No module named time
[- Python Information -]
sys.version= 2.2.2 (#3, Dec  9 2002, 13:36:26)
[GCC 2.8.1]
sys.executable = /usr/local/bin/python
sys.prefix = /usr/local
sys.exec_prefix= /usr/local/python
sys.path   = /usr/local/python
sys.platform   = sunos5
[- Environment Variables -]
PATH_INFO: /
PYTHONPATH: /usr/local/mailman
SERVER_SOFTWARE: Apache/1.3.23 (Unix)

It seems to me that there's something screwy with Python's setup, since it
can't seem to find the time module. I think I need to reconfigure python
or mailman to use a different value for PYTHONPATH, but I'm not sure how
to go about doing so. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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[Mailman-Users] How do I use MHonArc with Mailman?

2002-12-09 Thread David Gordon
As usual, I read the FAQs

4.4. How can I use an external archiver with Mailman like MHonArc?

 Configuring Mailman to use an external archiver instead of the internal
Pipermail is slightly finicky. A HOWTO for this was posted to the
mailman-developers list and should be copied in here once someone finds it. 

Did anyone find it yet?!

I'd like to use MHonArc as it allows correct wrapping of messages and
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Bad Archive link in moved lists?

2002-12-09 Thread Liam Routt
Jon Carnes wrote:
 This is discussed in the archives.  I believe some folks have even
 donated scripts to help fix this type of problem.  Sorry I don't have
 any examples handy.

Thanks for the pointers, though.

 You can fix it using the withlist command, but some of the archived
 examples make it very easy - and remove the trial and error.

With the withlist term, I was able to make a search in the archives that 
did locate the sort of thing I was looking for, and I set about making a 
python version of the scripts that people had made.

When I tried it, however, I found that the attributes it was looking for 
are no longer part of the list config information... (I'm using 2.1b5)

I'd based my python code on bin/fix_url.py, which changes a different, but 
important-sounding attribute (web_page_url). So I checked that attribute 
and found it was wrong on the lists I was having trouble with.

To cut a long story short, I then used fix_url.py to trivially fix my 
wonky lists, all of which seem fine now. For reference, the command line I 
used was:

  bin/withlist -l -r fix_url tuesdays -v

Where tuesdays is the name of one of my lists. It printed (with the -v 
option) a record of what it was changing, and sure enough the changes were 
present on the web-pages immediately.

If you know where to look :)

Thanks, Jon!

Take care,

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Re: [Mailman-Users] non-wrapping mail in Pipermail archive

2002-12-09 Thread Raquel Rice
On Mon, 9 Dec 2002 16:35:10 +
David Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've looked in the FAQs
 
 I see some mails don't wrap when viewed in my Pipermail archive. I
 have one which is from a Yahoo user. No doubt that's the problem!
 My messages are run through StripMime to remove HTML and
 attachments. The Yahoo mail reported...
 
 --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts ---
 multipart/alternative
   text/plain (text body -- kept)
   text/html
 ---
 
 Obviously the remaining plain text wasn't set to wrap and so the
 archive page has to be scrolled right to read the message. A real
 pain!
 
 How can I deal with this? Is there another script somewhere I can
 use to force messages like this one to wrap at a given character
 count?
 
 Do other archives (MHonArc?) deal with this problem better?
 
 Mailman 2.0.13 user BTW.
 
 Thanks
 
 -- 
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Try to force all your users to use mail clients which wrap at 72
characters?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] How do I use MHonArc with Mailman?

2002-12-09 Thread J C Lawrence
On Mon, 9 Dec 2002 22:50:36 +
David Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 As usual, I read the FAQs
 4.4. How can I use an external archiver with Mailman like MHonArc?

 Configuring Mailman to use an external archiver instead of the
 internal Pipermail is slightly finicky. A HOWTO for this was posted
 to the mailman-developers list and should be copied in here once
 someone finds it.

 Did anyone find it yet?!

 I'd like to use MHonArc as it allows correct wrapping of messages and
 some other nice features.

Adding MHonArc to the system is trivial if you use an external archiving
address rather than binding it into Mailman.  I've been doing this for
years.

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[Mailman-Users] anonymous posting and web posting to Mailman

2002-12-09 Thread Elaine Miller
This thread came up a while back, and I said I'd trundle off and play with 
the idea.

I've got it working now, in the simplest way I could think, with the 
latest version of Formmail.

In short, posting can be done from within an .htaccess protected 
directory, and the user can type in their own subscr*bed email address

...or Formmail can be tweaked to send with a single email address (like 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]) to the list address, which would have to have 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] as a subscr*ber.

Not a high-security workaround!

If the above isn't clear, drop me a note and I'll send you samples.

cheers
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