[Mailman-Users] Restricting access to the create list web page

2003-01-25 Thread Mark C
Hi, 

I have just upgraded to Mailman 2.1 and all my previous problems have
now vanished and its working prefectly 
(only taken a week of constant searching and brain bashing)

I have just noticed (maybe I never realised before), but there is a web
page that will allow list admins to create a new list.

Is there anyway I can restrict access to this page, by say IP.

I don't want joe public top be able to bring this page up at all, only
the internal network list admins.

I was thinking of a directive in the mailman httpd.conf file, but not
sure where to put it.

Any help would be great

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Restricting access to the create list web page

2003-01-25 Thread Tokio Kikuchi

(B Is there anyway I can restrict access to this page, by say IP.
(B 
(B I don't want joe public top be able to bring this page up at all, only
(B the internal network list admins.
(B 
(B I was thinking of a directive in the mailman httpd.conf file, but not
(B sure where to put it.
(B
(BPut
(BLocation /mailman/create
(B  Order deny,allow
(B  Deny from all
(B  Allow from 123.45.67.89
(B/Location
(Bjust beneath the Directory ... section for mailman cgi in the
(BApache httpd.conf, and restart httpd.
(B
(B-- 
(BTokio Kikuchi, tkikuchi@ is.kochi-u.ac.jp
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Restricting access to the create list web page(sorted)

2003-01-25 Thread Mark C
On Sat, 2003-01-25 at 12:22, Mark C wrote:

This has now been sorted, 
Thanks to Tokio Kikuchi


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[Mailman-Users] Two questions: external headers and moderation

2003-01-25 Thread Fernando Schapachnik
Hi,
First of all forgive if this message is inappropiate for the
charter (too technical). Is my first post, and I haven't found the
answers in the archive.

To the point:

a) I have a 'sponsored' list and need to include some random footers
in the posts. Is there a way to include external commands' output
there?

b) Some of my moderated lists have quite a lot of traffic, but most
of the posts turn out to be Ok. I though email based moderation would
ease things on the moderator. It turns out that the confirm/deny
message comes as a MIME attachment and his MUA (Kmail, BTW) treats it
as 'read-only', so he can't reply to it. To make things worst, Kmail
wouldn't allow him to cutpaste the Subject line of the attachment
also... :( I know it is a MUA's bug, but I'm trying to find a
workaround to it. Is there some way to have this info in the message
body or something?

Also, I was expecting to have some approve/deny mechanism that
wouldn't involve sending the password in clear text. Is this planned
for some future release?

Thanks in advance for any help.

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[Mailman-Users] Mailman

2003-01-25 Thread Terry McClaugherty
Hi, is it possible to set Mailman up so if a user just sends an email
with the word subscribe in the subject then they would be subscribed to
the list?

Also, in my from name it said [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of
Myname [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Is it possible so it just comes from [EMAIL PROTECTED] without
the behalf part?

Thanks, I looked through the docs, but did not see the answers to these
questions

Thanks
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[Mailman-Users] How to delete messages from private archives

2003-01-25 Thread Didier PIETTE
Hi,

I'm a new Mailman administrator and I create a list. But some people have 
sended to it test messages to see how it works. Now I want to delete just a 
few messages from the private archives.
How can i do that ?

Regards
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Re: [Mailman-Users] X-Loop

2003-01-25 Thread Gareth Hopkins
On Thu, 23 Jan 2003, Chuq Von Rospach wrote:

CVR
CVROn Thursday, January 23, 2003, at 10:01  PM, Barry A. Warsaw wrote:
CVR
CVR Huh?  What's an X-loop header?  Mailman doesn't use or add this
CVR header.
CVR
CVR
CVRIt's a procmail convention, so that procmail recipes can tell they've
CVRalready seen a message and break a potential mail loop.

So is there anywhere I can add this then in mailman or change the
X-Beenthere settings?

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[Mailman-Users] howto install and configure mailman in slackware8.0????

2003-01-25 Thread hengky
can give me some instructions or some documentation about howto installing
and configuring mailman in linux slackware 8.0

I use apache as web server and sendmail as smtp server.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] X-Loop

2003-01-25 Thread Gareth Hopkins
On Fri, 24 Jan 2003, Barry A. Warsaw wrote:

BAW
BAW GH == Gareth Hopkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
BAW
BAWGH So is there anywhere I can add this then in mailman or change
BAWGH the X-Beenthere settings?
BAW
BAWI'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish, but sure you can add it
BAWto Mailman.  Pick a module in Mailman/Handlers, or make up your own
BAWthat just adds the header with whatever value you think will help you
BAWaccomplish your goal wink.

Howdie,

Thanks for the info :) Was wondering something about the newlist
command. In version 2.1 you cannot use the -o aliases option. Is there
another way to automatically add the entries of a new list to the
aliases file?

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[Mailman-Users] Fiddling with pending messages

2003-01-25 Thread Marcin Owsiany
Hi!

A list I own recently got a lot (about half a thousand) of virii which
were all caught for approval by mailman. 

Now I need to discard them all, but doing that through the web interface
would be a nightmare. Thus I'd rather do that with Python, Perl, grep,
filetools or anything that would let me automate the process. However I
need some information on how to access/modify the pending posts other
than the web interface.

Where do I start? I could not find anything obvious in the docs, and
maybe someone has already done something similar?

thanks,

Marcin
PS: A Cc would be nice.
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[Mailman-Users] mailman and searching

2003-01-25 Thread Hunter Peress
mailman doesnt seem to support searching by default.

Eg: 

http://returntonature.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-sony

Could you explain how to set up searching for mailman, and what version
this appears in, as its not on that sony linux. thanks.

NOTE that you need to include me in the reply as I am not going to
subscribe to the list.




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[Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.0.13 runs on IBM OS/2 too!

2003-01-25 Thread Ted Sikora
http://powerusersbbs.net/browse/sections/mailman

http://powerusersbbs.net/mailman/listinfo

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[Mailman-Users] Not updating server URL on all lists

2003-01-25 Thread Ian Clarke
Hi, I recently moved my HTTP service from port 80 to port 8080.  I 
updated the DEFAULT_URL parameter in mm_cfg.py accordingly, however the 
results are somewhat peculiar - as can be seen from this URL:

  http://hawk.freenetproject.org:8080/mailman/listinfo/

You will notice that some of the links - eg. Betatesters, Web have 
the correct URL, but others - eg. devl still use the old URL.  People 
have reported similar inconsistencies elsewhere too.

Can anyone help?

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[Mailman-Users] Restricting access to the create list web page

2003-01-25 Thread Mark
Hi, 

I have just upgraded to Mailman 2.1 and all my previous problems have
now vanished and its working prefectly 
(only taken a week of constant searching and brain bashing)

I have just noticed (maybe I never realised before), but there is a web
page that will allow list admins to create a new list.

Is there anyway I can restrict access to this page, by say IP.

I don't want joe public top be able to bring this page up at all, only
the internal network list admins.

I was thinking of a directive in the mailman httpd.conf file, but not
sure where to put it.

Any help would be great

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[Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1: ImportError: No module named pythonlib.StringIO

2003-01-25 Thread bob
updated installation from 2.0.13

Had to install new python, python-2.2.2-7 compiled from source RPM
after updating the required packages (i.e. db4). 

Any ideas on where the source of this problem lies? It's running
on YDL 2.3 (redhat 7.2 like ppc system)

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman

2003-01-25 Thread Jon Carnes
- Original Message -
From: Terry McClaugherty
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 10:57 PM
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Mailman


 Hi, is it possible to set Mailman up so if a user just sends an email
 with the word subscribe in the subject then they would be subscribed to
 the list?

Yes there are work-arounds that let you do this.  Yes, it is a very bad idea
to setup a list this way - as I'm sure you will eventually find out.


 Also, in my from name it said [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of
 Myname [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

 Is it possible so it just comes from [EMAIL PROTECTED] without
 the behalf part?

Very simple.  What are you using as your mail client?  Just about any mail
client these days will allow you to adjust who your mail is from.  I can
click on the From field of this email right now and assume any one of 8
different identies (including [EMAIL PROTECTED])


 Thanks, I looked through the docs, but did not see the answers to these
 questions

 Thanks
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Re: [Mailman-Users] How to delete messages from private archives

2003-01-25 Thread Jon Carnes
I'm pretty sure this is in the FAQ,
 - edit the archive mbox file
~mailman/archive/private/listname.mbox/listname.mbox
remove the messages you want gone from the archives
 - delete the current html archives in
~mailman/archive/private/listname/..
 - run the ~mailman/bin/arch command and regenerate the archives for your
list.

Have fun - Jon Carnes

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 2:01 AM
Subject: [Mailman-Users] How to delete messages from private archives


Hi,

I'm a new Mailman administrator and I create a list. But some people have
sended to it test messages to see how it works. Now I want to delete just a
few messages from the private archives.
How can i do that ?

Regards
Didier PIETTE


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Re: [Mailman-Users] howto install and configure mailman inslackware8.0????

2003-01-25 Thread Jon Carnes
Down load the source from a tarball and expand it via tar -xzf .. and then
follow the instructions in the file INSTALL (and any special instructions
from the other specific READM.xxx files).

If you have Python 2.2 installed on the system then the install should be
very easy!

Good Luck
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 can give me some instructions or some documentation about howto installing
 and configuring mailman in linux slackware 8.0

 I use apache as web server and sendmail as smtp server.

 thanks
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RE: [Mailman-Users] How to delete messages from private archives

2003-01-25 Thread Jim Popovitch
It is worth adding that doing this will surely invalidate most if not all
URLs that reference archived emails.

-Jim P.

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 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Didier PIETTE
 Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] How to delete messages from private
 archives


 I'm pretty sure this is in the FAQ,
  - edit the archive mbox file
 ~mailman/archive/private/listname.mbox/listname.mbox
 remove the messages you want gone from the archives
  - delete the current html archives in
 ~mailman/archive/private/listname/..
  - run the ~mailman/bin/arch command and regenerate the archives for your
 list.

 Have fun - Jon Carnes

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 Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 2:01 AM
 Subject: [Mailman-Users] How to delete messages from private archives


 Hi,

 I'm a new Mailman administrator and I create a list. But some people have
 sended to it test messages to see how it works. Now I want to
 delete just a
 few messages from the private archives.
 How can i do that ?

 Regards
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Auto-Aliases in v2.1 -was- X-Loop

2003-01-25 Thread Jon Carnes
Version 2.1 automatically creates the aliases in ~mailman/data/aliases so
you can include that in your MTA's alias checks and from that point on the
aliases are created automagically.  Read the INSTALL file.  What could be
better than that?

Jon Carnes
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Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] X-Loop


 On Fri, 24 Jan 2003, Barry A. Warsaw wrote:

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 BAW GH == Gareth Hopkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 BAW
 BAWGH So is there anywhere I can add this then in mailman or change
 BAWGH the X-Beenthere settings?
 BAW
 BAWI'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish, but sure you can add it
 BAWto Mailman.  Pick a module in Mailman/Handlers, or make up your own
 BAWthat just adds the header with whatever value you think will help you
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 Howdie,

 Thanks for the info :) Was wondering something about the newlist
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Fiddling with pending messages

2003-01-25 Thread Jon Carnes
It's in the FAQ's,
 - delete the heldmsg-... files in ~mailman/data/..  (these are the actual
messages)
 - in version 2.1 simply delete the request.db file
~mailman/lists/listname/..
   in version 2.0 copy a request.db from another list over the existing one
(or simply run the web-admindb at that point and it will auto-sense that the
heldmsg's have been deleted and then clean out the request.db file for you).

Good Luck - Jon Carnes

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Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 12:12 PM
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Fiddling with pending messages


 Hi!

 A list I own recently got a lot (about half a thousand) of virii which
 were all caught for approval by mailman.

 Now I need to discard them all, but doing that through the web interface
 would be a nightmare. Thus I'd rather do that with Python, Perl, grep,
 filetools or anything that would let me automate the process. However I
 need some information on how to access/modify the pending posts other
 than the web interface.

 Where do I start? I could not find anything obvious in the docs, and
 maybe someone has already done something similar?

 thanks,

 Marcin
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Not updating server URL on all lists

2003-01-25 Thread Jon Carnes
Have you gone into the web-admin for the offending lists and changed their
default URL's from there?
Also, when you do a ~mailman/bin/config_list of the offending lists what
URL's show up from the configuration databases?

Note: you can also use ~mailman/bin/config_list to make changes to your
lists config (read the help inside the command file).

Jon Carnes
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 Hi, I recently moved my HTTP service from port 80 to port 8080.  I
 updated the DEFAULT_URL parameter in mm_cfg.py accordingly, however the
 results are somewhat peculiar - as can be seen from this URL:

   http://hawk.freenetproject.org:8080/mailman/listinfo/

 You will notice that some of the links - eg. Betatesters, Web have
 the correct URL, but others - eg. devl still use the old URL.  People
 have reported similar inconsistencies elsewhere too.

 Can anyone help?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1: ImportError: No module namedpythonlib.StringIO

2003-01-25 Thread Jon Carnes
I think this one has flown across the list a few times.  Try adding a switch
during the ./configure stage that points to the python2 executable.

Good Luck - Jon Carnes
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Subject: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1: ImportError: No module named
pythonlib.StringIO


 updated installation from 2.0.13

 Had to install new python, python-2.2.2-7 compiled from source RPM
 after updating the required packages (i.e. db4).

 Any ideas on where the source of this problem lies? It's running
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Re: [Mailman-Users] How to delete messages from private archives

2003-01-25 Thread Jon Carnes
Yep, but as I recall someone made a patch that preserved the URL references
(at least in 2.0).  Not that that is worry for the case below since they
just started up the list.

BTW: I get around this by running HTDig on my servers so that folks can
search the archives directly.  It helps. A lot.
- Original Message -
From: Jim Popovitch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Jon Carnes [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Didier
PIETTE [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 3:17 PM
Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] How to delete messages from private archives


 It is worth adding that doing this will surely invalidate most if not all
 URLs that reference archived emails.

 -Jim P.

  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf
  Of Jon Carnes
  Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 5:12 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Didier PIETTE
  Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] How to delete messages from private
  archives
 
 
  I'm pretty sure this is in the FAQ,
   - edit the archive mbox file
  ~mailman/archive/private/listname.mbox/listname.mbox
  remove the messages you want gone from the archives
   - delete the current html archives in
  ~mailman/archive/private/listname/..
   - run the ~mailman/bin/arch command and regenerate the archives for
your
  list.
 
  Have fun - Jon Carnes
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Didier PIETTE [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 2:01 AM
  Subject: [Mailman-Users] How to delete messages from private archives
 
 
  Hi,
 
  I'm a new Mailman administrator and I create a list. But some people
have
  sended to it test messages to see how it works. Now I want to
  delete just a
  few messages from the private archives.
  How can i do that ?
 
  Regards
  Didier PIETTE
 
 
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Using mailman without passwords WAS Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman

2003-01-25 Thread Matthew Davis
* Jon Carnes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 - Original Message -
 From: Terry McClaugherty
 Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 10:57 PM
 Subject: [Mailman-Users] Mailman
 
 
  Hi, is it possible to set Mailman up so if a user just sends an email
  with the word subscribe in the subject then they would be subscribed to
  the list?
 
 Yes there are work-arounds that let you do this.  Yes, it is a very bad idea
 to setup a list this way - as I'm sure you will eventually find out.

Just testing this on my mailman installation (Mailman 2.1) and it doesn't
require a password.  I have nothing extra installed (wrappers/addons/etc).

1. I subscribe'd by sending an empty email with 'subscribe' in the subject
to listname-request@host

NOTE:  This same process was repeated using the web based form without
supplying any password.  However, mailman did assign me a password (which I
ignored for the rest of the steps).

2. confirmed by just replying to the email sent to me (which finalized my
subscription process and I start receiving mail).

3. I unsubscribed by sending an empty email with 'unsubscribe' in the
subject to listname-request@host

NOTE: Going to http://host/mailman/options/listname/address%40host gives me
an unsubscribe button.  Pushing this sends me the unsubscribe confirm email.

4. a reply to the sent email finalizes the unsubscribe process.

All steps done without any passwords being sent or used.

So editing the templates (welcome message) and other web forms, one could
easily remove refrences to the password, so users won't know the difference.
Without password authenticating the user can only unsubscribe or have the
password sent to them.  All other options (digest mode/etc) cannot be set by
the user, only the admin.

Now my 2 disclaimers.
1. Do with this information as you see fit, its not the recommended way to
setup a list.
2. Take it for what its worth, it was free.


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RE: [Mailman-Users] How to delete messages from private archives

2003-01-25 Thread Jim Popovitch
Hi Jon,

I too use HTDig, but this doesn't really help with external search engines
or deep-linkers.  The best solution, is MHonarc, but I keep holding out for
Pipermail to catchup. ;)

-Jim P.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jon Carnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 5:47 PM
 To: Jim Popovitch; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Didier PIETTE
 Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] How to delete messages from private
 archives


 Yep, but as I recall someone made a patch that preserved the URL
 references
 (at least in 2.0).  Not that that is worry for the case below since they
 just started up the list.

 BTW: I get around this by running HTDig on my servers so that folks can
 search the archives directly.  It helps. A lot.
 - Original Message -
 From: Jim Popovitch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Jon Carnes [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Didier
 PIETTE [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 3:17 PM
 Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] How to delete messages from private archives


  It is worth adding that doing this will surely invalidate most
 if not all
  URLs that reference archived emails.
 
  -Jim P.
 
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf
   Of Jon Carnes
   Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 5:12 PM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Didier PIETTE
   Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] How to delete messages from private
   archives
  
  
   I'm pretty sure this is in the FAQ,
- edit the archive mbox file
   ~mailman/archive/private/listname.mbox/listname.mbox
   remove the messages you want gone from the archives
- delete the current html archives in
   ~mailman/archive/private/listname/..
- run the ~mailman/bin/arch command and regenerate the archives for
 your
   list.
  
   Have fun - Jon Carnes
  
   - Original Message -
   From: Didier PIETTE [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 2:01 AM
   Subject: [Mailman-Users] How to delete messages from private archives
  
  
   Hi,
  
   I'm a new Mailman administrator and I create a list. But some people
 have
   sended to it test messages to see how it works. Now I want to
   delete just a
   few messages from the private archives.
   How can i do that ?
  
   Regards
   Didier PIETTE
  
  
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1: ImportError: No module namedpythonlib.StringIO

2003-01-25 Thread bob
Thanks Jon, it doesn't look like that is the problem though.
I reinstalled with 

./configure  --with-python=/usr/bin/python --with-mail-gid=510 --with-cgi-gid=16 
--prefix=/home/mailman

and it has the same error. I'm using qmail btw an some virtual domains
though this mailman is in the default place. 

The other mailman I have running in a different place for a different
domain (v 2.0.13) is still running fine even with the new python.

When I rpm -Uvh to the new python it replaced the 1.5 version...

root@kunk ppc]# /usr/bin/python -V
Python 2.2.2

There is no other python executable on the machine...

mailman@kunk mailman-2.1]$ rpm -qa | grep python
rpm-python-4.0.3-1.03b
libxslt-python-1.0.15-1
python-devel-2.2.2-7
python-docs-2.2.2-7
python-tools-2.2.2-7
python-xmlrpc-1.5.1-7.x.3
libxml2-python-2.4.19-1
python-2.2.2-7

Thanks,
Bob

User Jon Carnes says:
 I think this one has flown across the list a few times.  Try adding a switch
 during the ./configure stage that points to the python2 executable.
 
 Good Luck - Jon Carnes
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 Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 2:52 PM
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 pythonlib.StringIO
 
 
  updated installation from 2.0.13
 
  Had to install new python, python-2.2.2-7 compiled from source RPM
  after updating the required packages (i.e. db4).
 
  Any ideas on where the source of this problem lies? It's running
  on YDL 2.3 (redhat 7.2 like ppc system)
 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1: ImportError: No module namedpythonlib.StringIO

2003-01-25 Thread Jon Carnes
Hmmm, it may be a Python error.  Perhaps your RPM version of Python doesn't
load all the modules that you need.  This has been a problem in the past
with other distributions.  See if there are other supplemental RPM's for
Python - like a development RPM that has additional modules (like the
StringIO module).

Good Luck - Jon Carnes

- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Jon Carnes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 5:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1: ImportError: No module named
pythonlib.StringIO


 Thanks Jon, it doesn't look like that is the problem though.
 I reinstalled with


./configure  --with-python=/usr/bin/python --with-mail-gid=510 --with-cgi-gi
d=16 --prefix=/home/mailman

 and it has the same error. I'm using qmail btw an some virtual domains
 though this mailman is in the default place.

 The other mailman I have running in a different place for a different
 domain (v 2.0.13) is still running fine even with the new python.

 When I rpm -Uvh to the new python it replaced the 1.5 version...

 root@kunk ppc]# /usr/bin/python -V
 Python 2.2.2

 There is no other python executable on the machine...

 mailman@kunk mailman-2.1]$ rpm -qa | grep python
 rpm-python-4.0.3-1.03b
 libxslt-python-1.0.15-1
 python-devel-2.2.2-7
 python-docs-2.2.2-7
 python-tools-2.2.2-7
 python-xmlrpc-1.5.1-7.x.3
 libxml2-python-2.4.19-1
 python-2.2.2-7

 Thanks,
 Bob

 User Jon Carnes says:
  I think this one has flown across the list a few times.  Try adding a
switch
  during the ./configure stage that points to the python2 executable.
 
  Good Luck - Jon Carnes
  - Original Message -
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 2:52 PM
  Subject: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1: ImportError: No module named
  pythonlib.StringIO
 
 
   updated installation from 2.0.13
  
   Had to install new python, python-2.2.2-7 compiled from source RPM
   after updating the required packages (i.e. db4).
  
   Any ideas on where the source of this problem lies? It's running
   on YDL 2.3 (redhat 7.2 like ppc system)
  
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[Mailman-Users] Feedback on Mailman 2.1

2003-01-25 Thread Marc Perkel
Often the programmers and the development team overlook things in upgrading 
because they don't have the same experience as the end user. I want to point out 
such a case to you so you can fix 2.1.

As a 2.0.11 user I did not need the list mailman and didn't have one. Thus 
when I upgraded it mostly worked. And it took a lot of work to figure out what I 
missed.

Perhaps the install/upgrade should create this list or at least there should be 
some sort of error or better documentation. Just wanted to give you a heads up 
on this to improve this fine product.

Also - there used to be a post-only patch that allowed members of the 
post-only list to post to all other lists. I very much need this feature in 
2.1 so that I can upgrade the lists at the Electronic Frontier Foundation.

Thanks in Advance
Marc Perkel
/root
EFF


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