Re: [Mailman-Users] Archives page not found (Noob.Q)
> >>>Make sure bin/check_perms doesn't give any problems (just to rule that out). >> >> That came up clean almost from the start... just a couple snafus the first >> time and clean after. Now, however... >> >> [root@mail mailman]# /usr/local/mailman/bin/check_perms -f >> bash: /usr/local/mailman/bin/check_perms: @PYTHON@: bad interpreter: No >> such file or directory > >'@PYTHON@' means the script is not './configure'-ed. >Follow the instructions in INSTALL to install. > Then there's something seriously fubar'ed here, because the ./configure command I used to compile yesterday was: [root@mail mailman]# ./configure --prefix=/web/mlib/data/mailman --with-python=/usr/bin/python2 --with-cgi-gid=shadow-readers I did it again... waste of time that was. Ran check_perms again in the source dir with the same error. Running it from the install dir comes up clean. "No problems found" Still getting the "400 not found" error when trying to access the pipermail/members dir. There is no index page in that directory, just links to the /archive/private/ directories, where the indicies are. The only difference is that I no longer get any errors in the httpd/error_log when trying to reference the list archive page from a browser. Noting the above gid configure parameter, is this the correct perm for the index.html file? -rwxrwxr-x1 apache mailman 1174 Jan 27 16:45 index.html Thanks again -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Archives page not found (Noob.Q)
Sorry to top post, but call this one pretty much solved. The problem, as I suspected, was in the permissions for the index.html file not being set sgid. Funny thing though, is that accessing it from the "List Archives" link on a message still shows the "400 file not found" error, but I can access it from the listinfo/members "Members Archive" link. Thanks everyone for your input. >Still getting the "400 not found" error when trying to access the >pipermail/members dir. There is no index page in that directory, just >links to the /archive/private/ directories, where the indicies >are. The only difference is that I no longer get any errors in the >httpd/error_log when trying to reference the list archive page from a >browser. > >Noting the above gid configure parameter, is this the correct perm for the >index.html file? >-rwxrwxr-x1 apache mailman 1174 Jan 27 16:45 index.html -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Mailman and sendmail...
I've been trying to get through these problems on my own for a while - using the searchable mailling list (thanks for that guys). However, I've still got problems. I'm using mandrake 9 with mailman installed from rpm, with sendmail 8.12.7 installed from source. I seemed to have managed to get sendmail working (with appropriate aliases) but it doesn't have NEWDB installed (I've config'ed the aliases file myself). The first problem was my confirmation mails bouncing back to the user with Failure to exec script. WANTED gid 65534, GOT gid 78. (Reconfigure to take 78?) 554 5.3.0 unknown mailer error 2 But I changed the gid of mailnull to 65534 and the bouncing stopped. However, now I get on my mailman server those confirmation messages to postmaster: The original message was received at Mon, 27 Jan 2003 21:02:06 GMT from localhost with id h0RL26TX025349 - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (reason: 553 sorry, that domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts (#5.7.1)) - Transcript of session follows - ... while talking to deepthought.34sp.com.: >>> DATA <<< 553 sorry, that domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts (#5.7.1) 550 5.1.1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... User unknown <<< 503 RCPT first (#5.5.1) Also, where do I configure the domain name for Mailman? At the moment the default seems to be localhost.localdomain. Can anyone guide me through this? I'd appreciate some helpful advice here - thanks very much in advance. adam -- GPG public key:- www.monkeez.co.uk/public_key.asc -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] admin functions not globally accessible
I thought i had finally got mailman working on my work network only to find when i tried to access the admin funtions from home I got a connection refused. I can access the main admin page and click on one of my lists so that the password entry screen comes up but then the browser times out or sometimes i get a connection refused. Also the list info page comes up but will not process any requests. Everything works when i connect to the site from from the internal network to the webserver in the dmz, it jus doesnt seem to want any connections form the outside world. any ideas? rob PS debian woody on the server. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] D_elivery N_otifications and B_ounces
Hello dear Listmembers, i found a problem with our wonderfull running mailman lists: We get some EDI Notifications with the Subject: DELIVERY NOTIFICATION and similar. This Mails reach our machine and mailman puts them in to archivefiles, but they never appear in the recipients mailbox. I think mailman has eaten this mail. How can i configure that some sender can send what they want and nothing will be blocked. Only from special domains or senders. Any suggestions? B.Rgds RPr Reinhard Proessler, Hanjin Shipping ::: EDP/Telecommunikation ::: Admiralitaetsstr. 56, 20459 Hamburg ::: Tel.: 0049 40 37685 443 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Mailman and mysql ???
hello, what the programmation for link mailman to mysql database ??? or is it possible ? thank for your help... -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: Bundling HTDIG
> "bob" == <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: bob> While I can understand why one might not want to bundle HTDIG bob> with Mailman, I do think it is entirely appropriate to bob> integrade the HTDIG patches into Mailman, making the adding bob> of HTDIG much easier. Especially since the patch author has bob> made the patch such that the default usage does not affect bob> normal Pipermail operation (if HT:Dig is not installed/used). +1 (eventually). bob> P.S. The subject index in the digest are wrapping in a very bob> odd way. For example, the first line shows: Fixed in CVS I believe. -Barry -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] 2nd request: migrating a list from 1.1 to 2.1 hosts?
There seem to be some other threads capturing people's attention, but Barry has logged in and sent mail a couple of times :), so I'm assuming this fell through the cracks. I have some lists on a host running MM1.1, and a new host running MM2.1. I need to move the 1.1 lists over to the new host. Is there a robust way to do this? -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] editing HTML
Hi, I'm using mailman 2.0.6 and having trouble editing the HTML for the subscriber confirmation page. I've made the changes via the edit html section of the admin interface. The problem is with setting the bgcolor tag for the page. Any changes I make get over written with the following tags that are automatically added to the page when I access it via my browser: I try to set bgcolor as but it doesn't work, the page still shows up white. Is there are way to work around this? Sean -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] mail transfer agent : PROBLEM
hi ! i am using suse 8.1 . mta-configuration: outgoing mail server = smtp from my provider (post.strato.de) accept remote smtp: NO (OFF) if i subscribe to a list, i get a mail to cofirm my subscription. if i answer to this mail or write a mail to the mailinglist nothing happens... (i got a timeout mail after 4 days) i am trying to configure mailman since about two weeks. nothing works... is there anyone who can help me? (germany, 26842) i ran newlist for a new list then i edited /etc/aliases.d/mailman after that i ran 'postalias mailman' . i think there is a problem with the masquerading. but i don't realy know. which configurationfiles are needed to help me? /var/log/mail Jan 28 15:29:23 lifeforce postfix/postfix-script: starting the Postfix mail system Jan 28 15:29:24 lifeforce postfix/master[11829]: daemon started Jan 28 15:33:21 lifeforce postfix/smtpd[11881]: connect from localhost[127.0.0.1] Jan 28 15:33:21 lifeforce postfix/smtpd[11881]: 2C8C0B276: client=localhost[127.0.0.1] Jan 28 15:33:21 lifeforce postfix/cleanup[11882]: 2C8C0B276: message-id=<002301c2c6da$005c14c0$025ca8c0@lf> Jan 28 15:33:22 lifeforce postfix/qmgr[11836]: 2C8C0B276: from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, size=151827, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Jan 28 15:33:37 lifeforce postfix/smtp[11884]: 2C8C0B276: to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,relay=post.strato.de Jan 28 15:33:54 lifeforce postfix/smtpd[11881]: disconnect from localhost[127.0.0.1] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Mailman-Users] MS Exchange as a relay computer?
On Mon, 27 Jan 2003, Bob Puff@NLE wrote: > I second the recommendation NOT to use Exchange as your mail transport agent. > If you've got a DNS server (even your MS box, shiver me timbers) that's only > a couple milliseconds away, you're not going to see any noticeable performance > hit, especially if it's on your local lan. I've found that by far the > limiting factor is your connection to the internet. One benefit to using Exchange 2000 as your outbound MTA is that it works very well with batching. I have my Exchange setup to allow 500 recipients per message. Mailman is also configured to send 500 recipients per message. As a result all 55 aol.com, 65 yahoo.com, or 51 hotmail.com recipients on my largest list are send to Exchange on the same message. Exchange can send a single message to handle all of those recipients instead of sending 5 or 10 as would occur when using the recommended batching of 10 recipients per message for postfix and other popular Unix-based MTAs. Exchange 2000 has no problem sending the same message to multiple domains at the same time. The remote deliver agent on most Unix MTAs can only send to one domain at a time so if you set the batching to 500 then you single thread your delivery and it can take forever for messages to get out. Note that you can use Windows 2000 SMTP server instead of Exchange for this. The code is exactly the same, Windows 2000 is just missing other parts of the mail system and some of the administrative tools. I talked to Ralf offline about his comments yesterday. All of the issues that he brought up were about Exchange 5.5. Exchange 2000 replaced that with a much newer MTA almost three years ago. alex -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] MS Exchange as a relay computer?
* alex wetmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I have my Exchange setup to allow 500 recipients per message. Mailman > is also configured to send 500 recipients per message. As a result > all 55 aol.com, 65 yahoo.com, or 51 hotmail.com recipients on my > largest list are send to Exchange on the same message. Exchange can > send a single message to handle all of those recipients instead of > sending 5 or 10 as would occur when using the recommended batching of > 10 recipients per message for postfix and other popular Unix-based > MTAs. This is not true for postfix. > Exchange 2000 has no problem sending the same message to multiple > domains at the same time. The remote deliver agent on most Unix MTAs > can only send to one domain at a time This is not true for postfix. > so if you set the batching to 500 then you single thread your > delivery and it can take forever for messages to get out. This is not true for postfix. -- Ralf Hildebrandt (Im Auftrag des Referat V a) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Charite Campus MitteTel. +49 (0)30-450 570-155 Referat V a - Kommunikationsnetze - Fax. +49 (0)30-450 570-916 Why you can't find your system administrators: On the roof of the building, contemplating. -- Johan van Zanten [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] MS Exchange as a relay computer?
> > Exchange can > > send a single message to handle all of those recipients instead of > > sending 5 or 10 as would occur when using the recommended batching of > > 10 recipients per message for postfix and other popular Unix-based > > MTAs. > This is not true for postfix. That's not true for exim either. It's a configurable option so that those MTA's which refuse messages with more than X recipients (to avoid some spam) can be catered for. Exim can be configured with different limits for different domains. > > Exchange 2000 has no problem sending the same message to multiple > > domains at the same time. The remote deliver agent on most Unix MTAs > > can only send to one domain at a time > > This is not true for postfix. Nor for exim. It's a configurable option. > > so if you set the batching to 500 then you single thread your > > delivery and it can take forever for messages to get out. > > This is not true for postfix. Nor exim I have a mailing list of thousands that clears those that are deliverable in a minute or less. On the other hand there's an exchange server on site that self destructs whenever its users email a large-ish address book entry. -- __[EMAIL PROTECTED]Jonathan Knight, / Department of Computer Science / _ __ Telephone: +44 1782 583437 University of Keele, Keele, (_/ (_) / / Fax : +44 1782 713082 Staffordshire. ST5 5BG. U.K. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and sendmail...
Hmm, You've got some real sendmail problems. You might want to consult that list or the FAQ's from http://www.sendmail.org You need to set your hostname properly. You can set it via the hostname command, but it's better if its in your servers configuration files. Also, make sure that your hostname is in your /etc/hosts file and it's ip is identified properly. You can edit /etc/sendmail.cf and set the hostname inside there (if the hostname you want it to use is not the default, but resolves to your box anyway). You also need to edit /etc/sendmail.cf or one of the /etc/mail files to alert Sendmail as to which domains are local (so it should accept traffic for those domains as being local). As an aside, I don't like the way your RPM of Mailman installed and expected a no-group when using the MTA. After you get your Sendmail install working properly you should consider downloading the Mailman from source and installing via: ./configure --with-mail-gid=78 make install Jon Carnes On Tue, 2003-01-28 at 08:46, Adam wrote: > I've been trying to get through these problems on my own for a while - using the > searchable mailling list (thanks for that guys). However, I've still got problems. > > I'm using mandrake 9 with mailman installed from rpm, with sendmail 8.12.7 > installed from source. I seemed to have managed to get sendmail working (with > appropriate aliases) but it doesn't have NEWDB installed (I've config'ed the > aliases file myself). > > The first problem was my confirmation mails bouncing back to the user with > Failure to exec script. WANTED gid 65534, GOT gid 78. (Reconfigure to take 78?) > 554 5.3.0 unknown mailer error 2 > > But I changed the gid of mailnull to 65534 and the bouncing stopped. > > However, now I get on my mailman server those confirmation messages to postmaster: > > The original message was received at Mon, 27 Jan 2003 21:02:06 GMT > from localhost > with id h0RL26TX025349 > >- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > (reason: 553 sorry, that domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts (#5.7.1)) > >- Transcript of session follows - > ... while talking to deepthought.34sp.com.: > >>> DATA > <<< 553 sorry, that domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts (#5.7.1) > 550 5.1.1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... User unknown > <<< 503 RCPT first (#5.5.1) > > Also, where do I configure the domain name for Mailman? At the moment the > default seems to be localhost.localdomain. > > Can anyone guide me through this? > > I'd appreciate some helpful advice here - thanks very much in advance. > > adam > > -- > GPG public key:- > www.monkeez.co.uk/public_key.asc > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jonc%40nc.rr.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] admin functions not globally accessible
Try a different browser when you are working from home (and accept cookies from the site) On Tue, 2003-01-28 at 09:27, Rob Shugg wrote: > I thought i had finally got mailman working on my work network only to find > when i tried to access the admin funtions from home I got a connection > refused. > I can access the main admin page and click on one of my lists so that the > password entry screen comes up but then the browser times out or sometimes i > get a connection refused. > Also the list info page comes up but will not process any requests. > > Everything works when i connect to the site from from the internal network to > the webserver in the dmz, it jus doesnt seem to want any connections form the > outside world. > any ideas? > > rob > PS debian woody on the server. > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jonc%40nc.rr.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] MS Exchange as a relay computer?
On Tue, 28 Jan 2003, Jonathan Knight wrote: > > > Exchange can > > > send a single message to handle all of those recipients instead of > > > sending 5 or 10 as would occur when using the recommended batching of > > > 10 recipients per message for postfix and other popular Unix-based > > > MTAs. > > This is not true for postfix. > > That's not true for exim either. It's a configurable option so that those > MTA's which refuse messages with more than X recipients (to avoid some spam) > can be catered for. Exim can be configured with different limits for > different domains. > > > > Exchange 2000 has no problem sending the same message to multiple > > > domains at the same time. The remote deliver agent on most Unix MTAs > > > can only send to one domain at a time > > > > This is not true for postfix. > > Nor for exim. It's a configurable option. Sorry for the misinformation. I was going by some information that I learned on this list about two years ago stating that setting MAX_SMTP_RCPTS to between 5 and 10 will increase parallelism with the MTA. Will exim and postfix both open multiple connections to a remote domain when there are many recipients for that domain on a single message? The Mailman FAQ still recommends setting MAX_SMTP_RCPTS to 10 for performance reasons, but doesn't explain why. alex -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] editing HTML
You could edit the templates directly in: ~mailman/templates On Tue, 2003-01-28 at 14:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi, > > I'm using mailman 2.0.6 and having trouble editing the HTML for the > subscriber confirmation page. I've made the changes via the edit html > section of the admin interface. The problem is with setting the bgcolor > tag for the page. Any changes I make get over written with the following > tags that are automatically added to the page when I access it via my > browser: > > > > > > > I try to set bgcolor as > > > > but it doesn't work, the page still shows up white. > > Is there are way to work around this? > > Sean > > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jonc%40nc.rr.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] mail transfer agent : PROBLEM
I've done this before and its very tricky to get it right. The first step for you is to make sure that you can send and receive mail - no matter how round-about your mail has to travel to end up on your server. Sending mail out is not problem, its getting it back in that can be tough. I setup Postfix to send out my mail as though I were the ISP, so that the email was from the proper domain and responses to the email eventually ended up on my server. Then I setup Mailman to send out using that domain as its default. If you think that your mail is making it to the server, then look at the Maillog and make sure that it came back in. If that part worked, then look in the mailman logs and see if the message was handed off to Mailman and if it then sent the message. Basically look at your logs and figure out what is going on. Good Luck - Jon Carnes On Tue, 2003-01-28 at 14:39, Chris [ www.LiFEFORCE.de ] wrote: > hi ! > > i am using suse 8.1 . mta-configuration: > > outgoing mail server = smtp from my provider (post.strato.de) > accept remote smtp: NO (OFF) > > > if i subscribe to a list, i get a mail to cofirm my subscription. if i > answer to this mail or write a mail to the mailinglist nothing happens... (i > got a timeout mail after 4 days) > > i am trying to configure mailman since about two weeks. nothing works... > > is there anyone who can help me? > (germany, 26842) > > > i ran newlist for a new list then > i edited /etc/aliases.d/mailman > after that i ran 'postalias mailman' . > > > i think there is a problem with the masquerading. but i don't realy know. > > which configurationfiles are needed to help me? > > > /var/log/mail > Jan 28 15:29:23 lifeforce postfix/postfix-script: starting the Postfix mail > system > Jan 28 15:29:24 lifeforce postfix/master[11829]: daemon started > Jan 28 15:33:21 lifeforce postfix/smtpd[11881]: connect from > localhost[127.0.0.1] > Jan 28 15:33:21 lifeforce postfix/smtpd[11881]: 2C8C0B276: > client=localhost[127.0.0.1] > Jan 28 15:33:21 lifeforce postfix/cleanup[11882]: 2C8C0B276: > message-id=<002301c2c6da$005c14c0$025ca8c0@lf> > Jan 28 15:33:22 lifeforce postfix/qmgr[11836]: 2C8C0B276: > from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, size=151827, nrcpt=1 (queue active) > Jan 28 15:33:37 lifeforce postfix/smtp[11884]: 2C8C0B276: > to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,relay=post.strato.de > Jan 28 15:33:54 lifeforce postfix/smtpd[11881]: disconnect from > localhost[127.0.0.1] > > > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jonc%40nc.rr.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] MS Exchange as a relay computer?
* alex wetmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Sorry for the misinformation. I was going by some information that I > learned on this list about two years ago stating that setting > MAX_SMTP_RCPTS to between 5 and 10 will increase parallelism with the > MTA. > > Will exim and postfix both open multiple connections to a remote > domain when there are many recipients for that domain on a single > message? Postfix will group the recipients by domain (within certain limits, of course) and then contact the domains MX and push down all the recipients for - say hotmail.com - down this one pipe (one sender, many recipients). If there are MORE recipients than the limit allows, another connection will be opened in parallel, but only if limits allow and the opposite site is responsive. The number of parallel connections will increase until a limit is reached or the other side becomes slow/unresponsive (TCP slow start). > The Mailman FAQ still recommends setting MAX_SMTP_RCPTS to 10 for > performance reasons, but doesn't explain why. This should definitely go! Postfix uses: default_recipient_limit = 1 # max. of 1 Recipients per single mail smtp_destination_recipient_limit = $default_destination_recipient_limit # max. number of recipients to be sent over smtp # this should be increased for a mailing list server And on the receiving side Postfix's smtpd accepts 1000 recipients. Which should be increased for a mailing list server as well if you inject via SMTP (which is fastest!) -- Ralf Hildebrandt (Im Auftrag des Referat V a) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Charite Campus MitteTel. +49 (0)30-450 570-155 Referat V a - Kommunikationsnetze - Fax. +49 (0)30-450 570-916 The trouble with being punctual is that people think you have nothing more important to do. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] MS Exchange as a relay computer?
> "RH" == Ralf Hildebrandt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: RH> * alex wetmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> The Mailman FAQ still recommends setting MAX_SMTP_RCPTS to 10 >> for performance reasons, but doesn't explain why. RH> This should definitely go! That's in the FAQwiz, right? Feel free to update that (it's on the honor system). -Barry -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] editing HTML
I checked subscribe.html in ~mailman/templates, it only containes: more subscribe.html Subscription results Subscription results The tags tags that are causeing problems are showing up as: Subscription results Subscription results Something is putting the tags there regardless of what is in the template file of how it is edited via the web interface. Sean On 28 Jan 2003, Jon Carnes wrote: > You could edit the templates directly in: > ~mailman/templates > > On Tue, 2003-01-28 at 14:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I'm using mailman 2.0.6 and having trouble editing the HTML for the > > subscriber confirmation page. I've made the changes via the edit html > > section of the admin interface. The problem is with setting the bgcolor > > tag for the page. Any changes I make get over written with the following > > tags that are automatically added to the page when I access it via my > > browser: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I try to set bgcolor as > > > > > > > > but it doesn't work, the page still shows up white. > > > > Is there are way to work around this? > > > > Sean > > > > > > -- > > Mailman-Users mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > > > This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jonc%40nc.rr.com > > > -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] MS Exchange as a relay computer?
* Barry A. Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > "RH" == Ralf Hildebrandt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > RH> * alex wetmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> The Mailman FAQ still recommends setting MAX_SMTP_RCPTS to 10 > >> for performance reasons, but doesn't explain why. > > RH> This should definitely go! > > That's in the FAQwiz, right? Feel free to update that (it's on the > honor system). Excellent. I got no password :( -- Ralf Hildebrandt (Im Auftrag des Referat V a) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Charite Campus MitteTel. +49 (0)30-450 570-155 Referat V a - Kommunikationsnetze - Fax. +49 (0)30-450 570-916 Why you can't find your system administrators: Outside having a smoke because it's illegal in the building. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] MS Exchange as a relay computer?
* Barry A. Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> RH> This should definitely go!
>
> That's in the FAQwiz, right? Feel free to update that (it's on the
> honor system).
I found the password by now...
I haven't changed everything, though.-..
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[Mailman-Users] Install Help
I'm running the latest mailman install on Slackware 8.1 & Sendmail 8.12.4. I've run the install, following the INSTALL & README as close as possible. I've run configure with the following options: ./configure --with-mailhost=myhost.mydomain.org --withurlhost=www.mydomain.o rg --with-cgi-gid=apache --with-mail-gid=mailman (have also used daemon) I've created a list and the initial message is sent OK. But a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] return the following error. My search of the web has been fruitless. I'm not sure how to configure sendmail to run scripts under a particular group (or find out which group it is currently executing as). Any thoughts? (of course, link to a web resource if fine, I've had no luck finding one) \\Greg The original message was received at Mon, 27 Jan 2003 12:32:51 -0500 - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post firstlist" (reason: 2) (expanded from: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) - Transcript of session follows - Group mismatch error. Mailman expected the mail wrapper script to be executed as group "mail", but the system's mail server executed the mail script as group "daemon". Try tweaking the mail server to run the script as group "mail", or re-run configure, providing the command line option `--with-mail-gid=daemon'. 554 5.3.0 unknown mailer error 2 -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Install issue
I'm running the latest mailman install on Slackware 8.1 & Sendmail 8.12.4. I've run the install, following the INSTALL & README as close as possible. I've run configure with the following options: ./configure --with-mailhost=myhost.mydomain.org --withurlhost=www.mydomain.org --with-cgi-gid=apache --with-mail-gid=mailman (have also used daemon) I've created a list and the initial message is sent OK. But a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] return the following error. My search of the web has been fruitless. I'm not sure how to configure sendmail to run scripts under a particular group. Any thought? \\Greg <\\Greg> The original message was received at Mon, 27 Jan 2003 12:32:51 -0500 - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post firstlist" (reason: 2) (expanded from: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) - Transcript of session follows - Group mismatch error. Mailman expected the mail wrapper script to be executed as group "mail", but the system's mail server executed the mail script as group "daemon". Try tweaking the mail server to run the script as group "mail", or re-run configure, providing the command line option `--with-mail-gid=daemon'. 554 5.3.0 unknown mailer error 2 ** This e-mail and any files transmitted with it may contain privileged or confidential information. It is solely for use by the individual for whom it is intended, even if addressed incorrectly. If you received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender; do not disclose, copy, distribute, or take any action in reliance on the contents of this information; and delete it from your system. Any other use of this e-mail is prohibited. Thank you for your compliance. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] MS Exchange as a relay computer?
> "RH" == Ralf Hildebrandt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: RH> Excellent. I got no password :( Go to http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py and look at the bottom of the page. :) -Barry -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] can't access private archives when changingdefault lang
On lun jan 27, 2003 at 07:12:25 -0500, Barry A. Warsaw wrote: > > > "TA" == The Anarcat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > TA> That said, I think I found a bug. Recently, I changed the > TA> default language of two private lists to "français" (french) > TA> and suddenly, I couldn't login the private archives. And > TA> actually, the form in /mailman/private/inso-tech/ is > TA> completely unuseable. > > This was caused by a bug in the French template private.html. Fixed > in CVS. Hmm.. This doesn't seem to solve my problem. I have the same behavior as before, when applying this patch: --- private.html.orig Sat Jan 18 23:59:54 2003 +++ private.htmlMon Jan 27 19:35:46 2003 @@ -7,9 +7,9 @@ %(message)s - + - + Authentification pour l'accès aux archives privées de %(realname)s And actually, by a diff with the english version, you can see the following absurdity: --- private.htmlMon Jan 27 19:35:46 2003 +++ ../en/private.html Sat Jan 18 23:59:51 2003 @@ -1,45 +1,43 @@ - Authentifi:cation pour l'accès aux archives privées de -%(realname)s +%(realname)s Private Archives Authentication - - + %(message)s ...that is, the form is empty in french!! :) I suggest just removing that there, it fixes everything. Thanks! A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Stupid question
Hi, sorry fot the stupid question but i can't figure how to sent email with mailman: How do i post it? Do i have to mail it to the mailman? Or can i submit a mailinglist message through a web interface? (Where do i put the content of the mailinglist message?) I read (and reread) the FAQ and the manuals. I must have overlooked something ... Regards, Cies. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Install issue
I'm running the latest mailman install on Slackware 8.1 & Sendmail 8.12.4. I'vve run the install, following the INSTALL & README as close as possible. I've run configure with the follwing options: ./configure --with-mailhost=myhost.mydomain.org --withurlhost=www.mydomain.org --with-cgi-gid=apache --with-mail-gid=mailman (have also used daemon) I've created a list and the initial message is sent OK. But a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] return the following error. My search of the web has been fruitless. I'm not sure how to configure sendmail to run scripts under a particular group. Any thought? \\Greg The original message was received at Mon, 27 Jan 2003 12:32:51 -0500 - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post firstlist" (reason: 2) (expanded from: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) - Transcript of session follows - Group mismatch error. Mailman expected the mail wrapper script to be executed as group "mail", but the system's mail server executed the mail script as group "daemon". Try tweaking the mail server to run the script as group "mail", or re-run configure, providing the command line option `--with-mail-gid=daemon'. 554 5.3.0 unknown mailer error 2 ** This e-mail and any files transmitted with it may contain privileged or confidential information. It is solely for use by the individual for whom it is intended, even if addressed incorrectly. If you received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender; do not disclose, copy, distribute, or take any action in reliance on the contents of this information; and delete it from your system. Any other use of this e-mail is prohibited. Thank you for your compliance. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Fiddling with pending messages
On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 07:19:44PM -0500, Barry A. Warsaw wrote: > > > "MO" == Marcin Owsiany <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > MO> I just wasn't sure if the .db file wouldn't become corrupt > MO> after I modify/delete the .txt files. But it seems OK. > > Yes, Mailman 2.1 will log a message about missing .txt files and then > just evict those entries from the .db file. So it'll be robust > against doing things that way. Actually I'm using Mailman 2.0.11 (Debian woody), but it did fine anyway. Thanks for such a nice piece of software :-) Marcin -- Marcin Owsiany <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://marcin.owsiany.pl/ GnuPG: 1024D/60F41216 FE67 DA2D 0ACA FC5E 3F75 D6F6 3A0D 8AA0 60F4 1216 "Every program in development at MIT expands until it can read mail." -- Unknown -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] exceeding max message size
What happens when a user submits a message greater than the list's maximum message size? We've been using majordomo for a very long time - however, we have some users who don't understand they can't send messages larger than xxx KB. Majordomo sends a bounce to the list owner - however, it would be _A LOT_ nicer, in our situation, to send the same message to the sender of the message as well.Does mailman do this? -robert -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users]
i couldn't find this in the user manual or the faq are there email commands that you can send to Mailman lists instead of using the web? like for example sending an email to the list then putting the subject as -subscribe... or unsubscribe etc... i've seen other stuff like that for other lists... just wondering if there's a list of commands for Mailman lists. thanks for any info you can provide! frankie I hate autocorrect -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] D_elivery N_otifications and B_ounces
Hello dear Listmembers, i found a problem with our wonderfull running mailman lists: We get some EDI Notifications with the Subject: DELIVERY NOTIFICATION and similar. This Mails reach our machine and mailman puts them in to archivefiles, but they never appear in the recipients mailbox. I think mailman has eaten this mail. How can i configure that some sender can send what they want and nothing will be blocked. Only from special domains or senders. Any suggestions? B.Rgds RPr Reinhard Proessler, Hanjin Shipping ::: EDP/Telecommunikation ::: Admiralitaetsstr. 56, 20459 Hamburg ::: Tel.: 0049 40 37685 443 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Mailing problems
Dear Mailman I wonder if you could get back to me at your convenience and let me know whether one of your products would handle a problem I have encountered. I work with a UK reg. Charity charged with handling an 'e-zine' for a group of around 650 legal professionals. Yesterday we sent a 'welcome' mail to that list using the email list function of our Raq4 server, but one of the recipients had an autoresponder configured which sent a mail back to the list saying "im not in...". Unfortunately, her being a member of that list, along with the other 600 members she received her own response back, to which her computer obviously replied with a further "Im not in..." message. Then she got this one back, and replied again, ad nauseum. Within an hour the server buckled under the weight of what we conservatively guess to be around 33,000 emails, and our phone lines melted under the weight of all the other recipients who were getting this "im not in,,," message dozens of times an hour. Having deleted the email list and gradually purged the system of all the mails still queuing, we have conceded we need a more professional system for these mass mailings, hence my email to you. I need some software that will allow only certain individuals within a list to respond to it, any others being discarded, or having some other method of moderating problems such as this I would appreciate your comments at your leisure Mike Dean --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.435 / Virus Database: 244 - Release Date: 30/12/2002 -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] editing HTML
What version of Mailman are you using? In version 2.1 the backgrounds seem to be set in the templates. In version 2.0 the backgrounds seem to be set in the CGI's, but they are very easy to edit. Go to the directory: ~mailman/Mailman/Cgi and do a "grep bgcolor *" Feel free to edit the subscribe.py file to change the bgcolor parameter in there. HtH - Jon Carnes On Tue, 2003-01-28 at 17:23, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I checked subscribe.html in ~mailman/templates, it only containes: > > more subscribe.html > > > Subscription results > > Subscription results > > > > > > The tags tags that are causeing problems are showing up as: > > > > > BODY bgcolor="#ff"> > > > Subscription results > > Subscription results > > > > > > Something is putting the tags there regardless of what is in the template > file of how it is edited via the web interface. > > Sean > > On 28 Jan 2003, Jon Carnes wrote: > > > You could edit the templates directly in: > > ~mailman/templates > > > > On Tue, 2003-01-28 at 14:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I'm using mailman 2.0.6 and having trouble editing the HTML for the > > > subscriber confirmation page. I've made the changes via the edit html > > > section of the admin interface. The problem is with setting the bgcolor > > > tag for the page. Any changes I make get over written with the following > > > tags that are automatically added to the page when I access it via my > > > browser: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I try to set bgcolor as > > > > > > > > > > > > but it doesn't work, the page still shows up white. > > > > > > Is there are way to work around this? > > > > > > Sean > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Mailman-Users mailing list > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > > > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > > > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > > > > > This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jonc%40nc.rr.com > > > > > > > -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Install issue
Check out FAQ 3.14, Sendmail is set to run as a user and a group, look in the Sendmail.cf file for the UserID/GroupID that it uses when running. Make sure that group exists in /etc/group and is unique. Configure mailman to expect that GID from the Mail server (./configure --with-mail-gid=mail ..) Good Luck - Jon Carnes On Tue, 2003-01-28 at 17:47, Martin, Greg (CSC) wrote: > I'm running the latest mailman install on Slackware 8.1 & Sendmail 8.12.4. > I've run the install, following the INSTALL & README as close as possible. > I've run configure with the following options: > > ./configure --with-mailhost=myhost.mydomain.org > --withurlhost=www.mydomain.org --with-cgi-gid=apache --with-mail-gid=mailman > (have also used daemon) > > I've created a list and the initial message is sent OK. But a message to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] return the following error. My search of the web has > been fruitless. I'm not sure how to configure sendmail to run scripts under > a particular group. > > Any thought? > > \\Greg <\\Greg> > > The original message was received at Mon, 27 Jan 2003 12:32:51 -0500 > >- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - > "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post firstlist" > (reason: 2) > (expanded from: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) > >- Transcript of session follows - > Group mismatch error. Mailman expected the mail > wrapper script to be executed as group "mail", but > the system's mail server executed the mail script as > group "daemon". Try tweaking the mail server to run the > script as group "mail", or re-run configure, > providing the command line option `--with-mail-gid=daemon'. > 554 5.3.0 unknown mailer error 2 > > > > > > > ** > This e-mail and any files transmitted with it may contain privileged or > confidential information. It is solely for use by the individual for whom > it is intended, even if addressed incorrectly. If you received this e-mail > in error, please notify the sender; do not disclose, copy, distribute, or > take any action in reliance on the contents of this information; and delete > it from your system. Any other use of this e-mail is prohibited. Thank you > for your compliance. > > > > > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jonc%40nc.rr.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and sendmail...
Jon, thanks for the ideas. However, I can't see how sendmail is failing. It works fine with pine (even has a hostname here) with /etc/hosts, /etc/mail/local-mail-hosts both reflecting the domain name. It really seems to have no normal problems, until used in conjunction with mailman. Thanks again, adam Quoting Jon Carnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hmm, You've got some real sendmail problems. You might want to > consult > that list or the FAQ's from http://www.sendmail.org > > You need to set your hostname properly. You can set it via the > hostname > command, but it's better if its in your servers configuration files. > Also, make sure that your hostname is in your /etc/hosts file and it's > ip is identified properly. > > You can edit /etc/sendmail.cf and set the hostname inside there (if > the > hostname you want it to use is not the default, but resolves to your > box > anyway). You also need to edit /etc/sendmail.cf or one of the > /etc/mail > files to alert Sendmail as to which domains are local (so it should > accept traffic for those domains as being local). > > As an aside, I don't like the way your RPM of Mailman installed and > expected a no-group when using the MTA. After you get your Sendmail > install working properly you should consider downloading the Mailman > from source and installing via: > ./configure --with-mail-gid=78 > make install > > Jon Carnes > > On Tue, 2003-01-28 at 08:46, Adam wrote: > > I've been trying to get through these problems on my own for a while - > using the > > searchable mailling list (thanks for that guys). However, I've still > got problems. > > > > I'm using mandrake 9 with mailman installed from rpm, with sendmail > 8.12.7 > > installed from source. I seemed to have managed to get sendmail > working (with > > appropriate aliases) but it doesn't have NEWDB installed (I've > config'ed the > > aliases file myself). > > > > The first problem was my confirmation mails bouncing back to the user > with > > Failure to exec script. WANTED gid 65534, GOT gid 78. (Reconfigure to > take 78?) > > 554 5.3.0 unknown mailer error 2 > > > > But I changed the gid of mailnull to 65534 and the bouncing stopped. > > > > > However, now I get on my mailman server those confirmation messages to > postmaster: > > > > The original message was received at Mon, 27 Jan 2003 21:02:06 GMT > > from localhost > > with id h0RL26TX025349 > > > >- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > (reason: 553 sorry, that domain isn't in my list of allowed > rcpthosts (#5.7.1)) > > > >- Transcript of session follows - > > ... while talking to deepthought.34sp.com.: > > >>> DATA > > <<< 553 sorry, that domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts > (#5.7.1) > > 550 5.1.1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... User unknown > > <<< 503 RCPT first (#5.5.1) > > > > Also, where do I configure the domain name for Mailman? At the moment > the > > default seems to be localhost.localdomain. > > > > Can anyone guide me through this? > > > > I'd appreciate some helpful advice here - thanks very much in advance. > > > > > adam > > > > -- > > GPG public key:- > > www.monkeez.co.uk/public_key.asc > > > > -- > > Mailman-Users mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > > Searchable Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > > > This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jonc%40nc.rr.com > > > GPG public key:- www.monkeez.co.uk/public_key.asc -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] create a new list (web interface) + qmailaliases
Thats a good idea, the other bit here is that i need to create the .qmail aliases based on domain, looking at the directory listing will not get me the information of what domain this list belongs to. any other ideas? --rodrigo How about using a small script that is kicked off every 5 minutes via a cron job? Something like this (that looks at the last time the ~mailman/lists directory was modified)... LDT1=`ls -ld /usr/local/mailman/lists` LDT2=`cat /usr/local/mailman/checklist LDT 2>/dev/null` if [ "$LDT1" = "$LDT2" ]; then exit 0 ; fi # if the listing for the ~mailman/lists directory # hasn't changed then no lists have been created or deleted insert your script commands here... ... Good Luck - Jon Carnes On Mon, 2003-01-27 at 20:23, Rodrigo Lagos wrote: > Hi all, > I have Mailman 2.1 installed running with qmail, i have been using the > Mailman+qmail configuration for a while, but just now making the upgrade to > MM 2.1. > I was very happy to see the "create a new mailing list" in the admin page. I > have it all working with virtual domains, and its great. > I do have one question. Is there a way to use the create cgi to also kick > off creation of .qmail aliases for that list, maybe from create.py? i have > a small shell script that creates the aliases, but don't know how to kick > off the script after the list has been created from the same process. > Anyone done this ?? > ideas? > thanks > --rodrigo > > > _ > Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jonc%40nc.rr.com _ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] text only in attachment -Noob.Q
On Tue, 2003-01-28 at 03:37, Keith Mastin wrote: > >Can you include a sample email to the list? > >I'm curious if the problem is the Content Filter (look in the > >web-admin). > > > >Jon Carnes > > Web-admin? How would I look there, do you mean on the stuff we see in > a browser, or in the code that makes the page? The "stuff" we see in a browser. Particularly the "stuff" that we see in a browser that lets us configure our mailing lists. ... Interesting. What does the message look like before it goes through Mailman? -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Mailman-Users] MS Exchange as a relay computer?
>One benefit to using Exchange 2000 as your outbound MTA is that it >works very well with batching. > >I have my Exchange setup to allow 500 recipients per message. Mailman >is also configured to send 500 recipients per message. As a result >all 55 aol.com, 65 yahoo.com, or 51 hotmail.com recipients on my >largest list are send to Exchange on the same message. Exchange can >send a single message to handle all of those recipients instead of >sending 5 or 10 as would occur when using the recommended batching of >10 recipients per message for postfix and other popular Unix-based >MTAs. What exactly are the parameters you set in postfix to do this? I'm asking because it seems to me that you set it up without reading the docs if this is happening. >Exchange 2000 has no problem sending the same message to multiple >domains at the same time. The remote deliver agent on most Unix MTAs >can only send to one domain at a time so if you set the batching to >500 then you single thread your delivery and it can take forever for >messages to get out. "Most UNIX MTAs"? Hmm... How about sitting down to do a one-on-one bench test against a postfix box? Say, 50,000 deliveries to 500 domains? You chose them. I'll even give you this: use any hardware you want. I'll set up postfix on a P133 with 98MB EDO RAM and a 10MB Legacy Network card. We'll use the same Internet connection. If either system barfs, it's out of the game, okay? >Note that you can use Windows 2000 SMTP server instead of Exchange for >this. The code is exactly the same, Windows 2000 is just missing >other parts of the mail system and some of the administrative tools. > >I talked to Ralf offline about his comments yesterday. All of the >issues that he brought up were about Exchange 5.5. Exchange 2000 >replaced that with a much newer MTA almost three years ago. And it's still immature, still getting almost daily patches against one security vulnerability or another, still shares memory and blows it's stack under pressure. Windoh$ is good for one thing and one thing only, IMHO: It keeps people employed just keeping it "kind of" running. In contrast, the maintenance on my mailserver is done with a vacuum cleaner to get the dust off the fan. But hey- if you like Exchange, fill yer boots! -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] allow html email but not file attachments?
Since HTML email is a mime encoded email, how do I set up a list to filter out file attachements but not HTML email? (Mailman n00b admin here) :) -Jeff -- Jeff Schoby - Unix Admin City of Columbia, Missouri [EMAIL PROTECTED] 573.874.6320 -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] text only in attachment -Noob.Q
>On Tue, 2003-01-28 at 03:37, Keith Mastin wrote: >> >Can you include a sample email to the list? >> >I'm curious if the problem is the Content Filter (look in the >> >web-admin). >> > >> >Jon Carnes >> >> Web-admin? How would I look there, do you mean on the stuff we see in >> a browser, or in the code that makes the page? > >The "stuff" we see in a browser. Particularly the "stuff" that we see >in a browser that lets us configure our mailing lists. Okay, that clarifies it. I was scared you were gonna have me go at setting up webmin or something like it >Interesting. What does the message look like before it goes through >Mailman? To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: BCC: Subject: test Priority: High Normal Low Receipt: On read On Delivery test -- Mcleod Lake Indian Band webmaster http://www.mcleodlake.com Attach: -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] stuped with postfix
Greetings: I'm trying to get mailman 2.1 to work with postfix 2.0.2 on RedHat 7.2. I am able to create lists and add subscribers using the mass-subscription but list owners and subscribers are never sent emails. postfix dosen't seem to have an issue; /var/log/maillog has no errors. Trying to subscribe as an individual via the web interface appears to work but entries in mailman/logs/subscribe are always labled as "pending". postfix was created with gid=postdrop and default_privs set to 'mailman' in /etc/postfix/main.cf mailman was configured --with-mail-gid=mailman Has anyone a canned recipe for mailman/postfix? Thanks in advance, -- Paul Daniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] 760.938.2075 ext 130 -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Configuration assistance - virtual host?
I've read recent discussion and outline of the virtual hosting feature. But it's not 100% clear to me it will work to reach my goal. Mail in my land all only comes to a central server foo.org who then directs mail to several servers (ie server1.foo.org, server2.foo.org, etc) using virtual user tables. For example [EMAIL PROTECTED]goes to [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]goes to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I want Mailman to play in this environment such that [EMAIL PROTECTED] goes to [EMAIL PROTECTED] via virtual user table on foo.org and the list on mailmainserver.foo.org uses the [EMAIL PROTECTED] name in mail headers, and the web pages reflect it without hand editting each page, etc. Will virtual hosting met my requirements? I get the impression it will, but before I go off and try to set it up - I thought to check in. Any gotchas? - Sarah Baker Carnegie Mellon University - West 650-603-7014 -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] MS Exchange as a relay computer?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > "Ralf" == Ralf Hildebrandt > "Re: [Mailman-Users] MS Exchange as a relay computer?" > Tue, 28 Jan 2003 17:32:43 +0100 Ralf> * alex wetmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> The Mailman FAQ still recommends setting MAX_SMTP_RCPTS to 10 >> for performance reasons, but doesn't explain why. Ralf> This should definitely go! We have the following. ,[ grep 'SMTP_MAX_RCPTS =' /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Defaults.py ] | SMTP_MAX_RCPTS = 500 ` And the FAQ recommends reducing that? Ralf> Postfix uses: Ralf> default_recipient_limit = 1 Ralf> # max. of 1 Recipients per single mail Ralf> smtp_destination_recipient_limit = Ralf> $default_destination_recipient_limit Ralf> # max. number of recipients to be sent over smtp this should Ralf> # be increased for a mailing list server Hmmm.. Postfix 2.0.3 gives: ,[ /usr/sbin/postconf -d|egrep '(concurrency|recipient)_limit' ] | default_destination_concurrency_limit = 20 | default_destination_recipient_limit = 50 | default_extra_recipient_limit = 1000 | default_recipient_limit = 1 | extract_recipient_limit = 10240 | local_destination_concurrency_limit = 2 | local_destination_recipient_limit = 1 | qmgr_message_recipient_limit = 2 | smtp_destination_concurrency_limit = $default_destination_concurrency_limit | smtp_destination_recipient_limit = $default_destination_recipient_limit | smtpd_recipient_limit = 1000 ` IIRC 50 was chosen as the default_destination_recipient_limit default because too many mailers balk or choke on more. Do you remember differently? Or, do you actually see many SMTP listeners willing to swallow 10,000 recipients? Ralf> And on the receiving side Postfix's smtpd accepts 1000 Ralf> recipients. Which should be increased for a mailing list Ralf> server as well if you inject via SMTP (which is fastest!) FWIW, in unfamiliar surroundings I would be inclined to use SMTP_MAX_RCPTS = 1000 in Mailman/mm_cfg.py, double the 500 in Mailman/Defaults.py, as a starting value before tweaking the Postfix limits. jam -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE+NtHeUEvv1b/iXy8RAphlAKCaM3NUpZndaPXxho7sGwHMWjx1HwCeL6UJ vlqAOi6rS4n94EwZRyhsnFo= =+ESG -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] email in TO: field
Hi, i am a newbie in mailman and have a problem in my configuration: i setup mailman (2.0.13 under RedHat 8.0) without any problems and it run ok but when i send a message to the list every mail goes out as "bulk" email, i like to send out the messages with the right emailadress in TO: field i can not find something in the mailman configuration to disable "bulk" in TO: field there is now list@HOSTNAME HOSTNAME = the hostname which is set in /etc/hosts i like to run 2 lists with different hostnames, i setup every list correct but in the TO: field there is ever the HOSTNAME thanks for your help Alfred ps. sorry for my bad english -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Mailman-Users] MS Exchange as a relay computer?
Thanks you guys!!! I have read all your comments about using exchange 2k as my relay, and I can see the pros, and cons of such a job. My mailman box, uses Postfix, and apparently, as mention in this thread postfix can open multiple connections to the same domain, which would be brilliant, as long as I can check to configure it. Exchange, does the same thing. I have a 1/2 meg connection to the internet, so I guess that's not too bad. I've also been directed at a link that I may like to try, to add local cacheing on my mailman box. What I will do, is test all configurations, and see which one kicks ass, I mean works the best! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of alex wetmore Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 4:10 PM To: Jonathan Knight Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] MS Exchange as a relay computer? On Tue, 28 Jan 2003, Jonathan Knight wrote: > > > Exchange can > > > send a single message to handle all of those recipients instead of > > > sending 5 or 10 as would occur when using the recommended batching of > > > 10 recipients per message for postfix and other popular Unix-based > > > MTAs > > This is not true for postfix > > That's not true for exim either. It's a configurable option so that those > MTA's which refuse messages with more than X recipients (to avoid some spam) > can be catered for. Exim can be configured with different limits for > different domains > > > > Exchange 2000 has no problem sending the same message to multiple > > > domains at the same time. The remote deliver agent on most Unix MTAs > > > can only send to one domain at a time > > > > This is not true for postfix > > Nor for exim. It's a configurable option Sorry for the misinformation. I was going by some information that I learned on this list about two years ago stating that setting MAX_SMTP_RCPTS to between 5 and 10 will increase parallelism with the MTA Will exim and postfix both open multiple connections to a remote domain when there are many recipients for that domain on a single message? The Mailman FAQ still recommends setting MAX_SMTP_RCPTS to 10 for performance reasons, but doesn't explain why alex -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/badmangabriel%40lyc os.co.uk -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Stupid question
If Mailman is installed and everything is working, then you create a new list (you can do this from the web-interface in version 2.1). log directly into your server and type: ~mailman/bin/newlist This will print out a list of "aliases" that need to be copied into the /etc/aliases file on your system. After you have copied those into your /etc/aliases file, run: newaliases Now you have created a list. To add someone to the new list, you login via the web-admin and add email addresses to the list. To send an email to this list, use the list name you created as the email address (the domain will be the host name of the server running Mailman: @myserver.mydomain.com Take care - Jon Carnes On Mon, 2003-01-27 at 16:25, Cies wrote: > Hi, > > sorry fot the stupid question but i can't figure how to sent email with > mailman: How do i post it? Do i have to mail it to the mailman? Or can i > submit a mailinglist message through a web interface? > > (Where do i put the content of the mailinglist message?) > > I read (and reread) the FAQ and the manuals. I must have overlooked > something ... > > Regards, > Cies. > > > > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jonc%40nc.rr.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and sendmail...
That being the case, check out FAQ 3.14 which covers the most common reasons for mail not going out to list. Good Luck - Jon Carnes On Tue, 2003-01-28 at 18:32, Adam wrote: > Jon, thanks for the ideas. However, I can't see how sendmail is failing. It > works fine with pine (even has a hostname here) > with /etc/hosts, /etc/mail/local-mail-hosts both reflecting the domain name. It > really seems to have no normal problems, until used in conjunction with > mailman. > > Thanks again, > > adam > -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and mysql ???
On Mon, 27 Jan 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > what the programmation for link mailman to mysql database ??? or is it > possible ? It's supposed to be possible with the new mailman 2.1 but the "adapter" code hasn't been written yet (AFAIK). Recently the LDAP adapter was release so that might be an option until the SQL one is put out. You can also try a different mailing program like Sympa that does have support for SQL databases. I'm going to move one of my smaller lists over to that and give it a shot. later, ajay Satyajot (Ajay) Sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users]
Send an email to one of your lists: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or to [EMAIL PROTECTED]) and put "help" in the subject. You will get back a message from Mailman detailing most of the email commands. They are mostly identical to those used by Majordomo. Jon Carnes On Mon, 2003-01-27 at 22:56, warriorx1 wrote: > i couldn't find this in the user manual or the faq are there email > commands that you can send to Mailman lists instead of using the web? > like for example sending an email to the list then putting the subject > as -subscribe... or unsubscribe etc... i've seen other stuff like that > for other lists... just wondering if there's a list of commands for > Mailman lists. > thanks for any info you can provide! > > frankie > > I hate autocorrect > > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jonc%40nc.rr.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] mailman-2.1-1.i386.rpm
I've been fighting problems after upgrading Mailman 2.0x to 2.1-1 using mailman-2.1-1.i386.rpm. I'm making headway but now mailmanctl terminates with the following error: # /etc/rc.d/init.d/mailmanctl start Traceback (most recent call last): File "/etc/rc.d/init.d/mailmanctl", line 104, in ? import paths ImportError: No module named paths I'm thinking that something strange is happening with Python. Python versions 1.5x and 2.2x are installed. I noticed Mailman requires Python 2.x to run. (Interstingly enough, mailman-2.1-1.i386.rpm reports to require python and not python2.) I have packages that require both versions of Python. If I run "python -V" it indicates version 2. I'm almost at a point where I've either got to scrap mailman completely and revert to an earlier rpm or install clean from source. Any suggestions would be appreciated. [root@mailgate lists]# rpm -q python python-1.5.2-38 [root@mailgate lists]# rpm -q python2 python2-2.2-16 [root@mailgate lists]# python -V Python 2.2 [root@mailgate bin]# ls python* -la -rwxr-xr-x2 root root 875272 Jan 25 18:38 python -rwxr-xr-x2 root root 875272 Jan 25 18:38 python1.5 -rwxr-xr-x2 root root 875272 Apr 12 2002 python2 -rwxr-xr-x2 root root 875272 Apr 12 2002 python2.2 [root@mailgate lists]# rpm -q --whatrequires python Distutils-1.0.2-2 PyXML-0.7-4 4Suite-0.11.1-8 pygtk-0.6.9-3 python-popt-0.8.8-7.x.2 python-clap-1.0.0-3 python-xmlrpc-1.5.1-7.x.3 rpm-python-4.0.4-7x.18 redhat-config-network-1.0.0-1 bindconf-1.6.3-1 rhn_register-2.8.27-1.7.3 up2date-2.8.39-1.7.3 python-devel-1.5.2-38 mailman-2.1-1 [root@mailgate lists]# rpm -q --whatrequires python2 pygtk2-1.99.8-7 redhat-config-users-1.0.1-5 Thanks, David Parker Systems/Network Administrator Information Technology Services City of Bryan, Texas -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Mailman-Users] Upgrade from 2.0x to 2.1
Hmmm, the earlier RPM install must be running cron jobs as a different user? I've removed crontab entries for mailman but the messages are still flowing. How can trace this back to the correct user? Thanks, David -Original Message- From: Parker, David K Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 4:21 PM To: 'John DeCarlo'; Parker, David K Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] Upgrade from 2.0x to 2.1 I've done as you suggested but I keep getting the following messages every few minutes: Subject: Cron /usr/bin/python -S /var/mailman/cron/qrunner Body: /usr/bin/python: can't open file '/var/mailman/cron/qrunner' Here are the contents of the crontab.in file # At 8AM every day, mail reminders to admins as to pending requests. # They are less likely to ignore these reminders if they're mailed # early in the morning, but of course, this is local time... ;) 0 8 * * * /usr/bin/python -S /var/mailman/cron/checkdbs # # At 9AM, send notifications to disabled members that are due to be # reminded to re-enable their accounts. 0 9 * * * /usr/bin/python -S /var/mailman/cron/disabled # # Noon, mail digests for lists that do periodic as well as threshhold delivery. 0 12 * * * /usr/bin/python -S /var/mailman/cron/senddigests # # 5 AM on the first of each month, mail out password reminders. 0 5 1 * * /usr/bin/python -S /var/mailman/cron/mailpasswds # # Every 5 mins, try to gate news to mail. You can comment this one out # if you don't want to allow gating, or don't have any going on right now, # or want to exclusively use a callback strategy instead of polling. 0,5,10,15,20,25,30,35,40,45,50,55 * * * * /usr/bin/python -S /var/mailman/cron/gate_news # # At 3:27am every night, regenerate the gzip'd archive file. Only # turn this on if the internal archiver is used and # GZIP_ARCHIVE_TXT_FILES is false in mm_cfg.py 27 3 * * * /usr/bin/python -S /var/mailman/cron/nightly_gzip Thanks, David -Original Message- From: John DeCarlo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 8:22 AM To: Parker, David K Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Upgrade from 2.0x to 2.1 David, This will get your cron jobs reset. Remember, they are running as user 'mailman'. as root or mailman user, run: crontab -u mailman -r crontab -u mailman mailman_dir/cron/crontab.in The first command will remove all the mailman cron jobs. The second will put in just the 2.1 cron jobs. Note that your "mailman_dir" may be /var/local/mailman (or something else), instead of the default source install of /usr/local/mailman. Parker, David K wrote: > I'm getting errors generated after upgrading from 2.0x to 2.1. I think > its related to Cfron jobs being scheduled to run. Both installs of > Mailman were done via RPM. I'm guessing that the latest RPM didn't > take care of the Cron jobs? Any hints on cleaning this up? I've been > through the UPGRADE doc. -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Mailman-Users] Upgrade from 2.0x to 2.1
I've done as you suggested but I keep getting the following messages every few minutes: Subject: Cron /usr/bin/python -S /var/mailman/cron/qrunner Body: /usr/bin/python: can't open file '/var/mailman/cron/qrunner' Here are the contents of the crontab.in file # At 8AM every day, mail reminders to admins as to pending requests. # They are less likely to ignore these reminders if they're mailed # early in the morning, but of course, this is local time... ;) 0 8 * * * /usr/bin/python -S /var/mailman/cron/checkdbs # # At 9AM, send notifications to disabled members that are due to be # reminded to re-enable their accounts. 0 9 * * * /usr/bin/python -S /var/mailman/cron/disabled # # Noon, mail digests for lists that do periodic as well as threshhold delivery. 0 12 * * * /usr/bin/python -S /var/mailman/cron/senddigests # # 5 AM on the first of each month, mail out password reminders. 0 5 1 * * /usr/bin/python -S /var/mailman/cron/mailpasswds # # Every 5 mins, try to gate news to mail. You can comment this one out # if you don't want to allow gating, or don't have any going on right now, # or want to exclusively use a callback strategy instead of polling. 0,5,10,15,20,25,30,35,40,45,50,55 * * * * /usr/bin/python -S /var/mailman/cron/gate_news # # At 3:27am every night, regenerate the gzip'd archive file. Only # turn this on if the internal archiver is used and # GZIP_ARCHIVE_TXT_FILES is false in mm_cfg.py 27 3 * * * /usr/bin/python -S /var/mailman/cron/nightly_gzip Thanks, David -Original Message- From: John DeCarlo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 8:22 AM To: Parker, David K Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Upgrade from 2.0x to 2.1 David, This will get your cron jobs reset. Remember, they are running as user 'mailman'. as root or mailman user, run: crontab -u mailman -r crontab -u mailman mailman_dir/cron/crontab.in The first command will remove all the mailman cron jobs. The second will put in just the 2.1 cron jobs. Note that your "mailman_dir" may be /var/local/mailman (or something else), instead of the default source install of /usr/local/mailman. Parker, David K wrote: > I'm getting errors generated after upgrading from 2.0x to 2.1. I think > its related to Cfron jobs being scheduled to run. Both installs of > Mailman were done via RPM. I'm guessing that the latest RPM didn't > take care of the Cron jobs? Any hints on cleaning this up? I've been > through the UPGRADE doc. -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailing problems
* Mike Dean ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Dear Mailman > I wonder if you could get back to me at your convenience and let me know > whether one of your products would handle a problem I have encountered. > I work with a UK reg. Charity charged with handling an 'e-zine' for a > group of around 650 legal professionals. Yesterday we sent a 'welcome' > mail to that list using the email list function of our Raq4 server, but > one of the recipients had an autoresponder configured which sent a mail > back to the list saying "im not in...". Unfortunately, her being a > member of that list, along with the other 600 members she received her > own response back, to which her computer obviously replied with a > further "Im not in..." message. Then she got this one back, and replied > again, ad nauseum. Within an hour the server buckled under the weight of > what we conservatively guess to be around 33,000 emails, and our phone > lines melted under the weight of all the other recipients who were > getting this "im not in,,," message dozens of times an hour. Wow. Glad to see things calmed down. > Having deleted the email list and gradually purged the system of all the > mails still queuing, we have conceded we need a more professional system > for these mass mailings, hence my email to you. I need some software > that will allow only certain individuals within a list to respond to it, > any others being discarded, or having some other method of moderating > problems such as this Mailman is an answer to most of your problems, you just need to remind people to turn not let their vacation message post to lists. After installing Mailman 2.1 (most current stable version), you will have a web administrative interface to your mailing lists. Once there you can set moderation options. There are quite a few options to set and change. Visit http://www.list.org/features.html for a list of most of the features. You can set the list to member post only, and then set the moderation flag for everyone on the list (except for thoes you want to allow thru). Then when a post is made to the list by someone that is moderated, you will get an email telling you of that post, then you have the option to Discard, Allow, Defer or Reject the message. I think you will like Mailman 2.1. -- Matthew Davis http://dogpound.vnet.net/ Another flight attendant's comment on a less than perfect landing: "We ask you to please remain seated as Captain Kangaroo bounces us to the terminal." -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Install Help
* vze1jt1m ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: [snip] > ./configure --with-mailhost=myhost.mydomain.org --withurlhost=www.mydomain.o > rg --with-cgi-gid=apache --with-mail-gid=mailman (have also used daemon) And when you tried it with daemon, what was the error message? [snip] > The original message was received at Mon, 27 Jan 2003 12:32:51 -0500 > - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - > "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post firstlist" > (reason: 2) > (expanded from: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) > - Transcript of session follows - > Group mismatch error. Mailman expected the mail > wrapper script to be executed as group "mail", but > the system's mail server executed the mail script as > group "daemon". Try tweaking the mail server to run the > script as group "mail", or re-run configure, > providing the command line option `--with-mail-gid=daemon'. > 554 5.3.0 unknown mailer error 2 -- Matthew Davis http://dogpound.vnet.net/ It's hard to make a comeback when you haven't been anywhere. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] 2nd request: migrating a list from 1.1 to 2.1hosts?
* Tom Neff ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > There seem to be some other threads capturing people's attention, but Barry > has logged in and sent mail a couple of times :), so I'm assuming this fell > through the cracks. > > I have some lists on a host running MM1.1, and a new host running MM2.1. I > need to move the 1.1 lists over to the new host. Is there a robust way to > do this? -[ From mailman-2.1/UPGRADING ]- UPGRADING FROM 1.x to 2.x In addition to the instructions above, I highly recommend that you make sure your Mailman queue is cleared /before/ upgrading. Mailman version 1.x had a cron script called run_queue which was part of its bulk mailer. With Mailman 2.x there is no default bulk mailer (it lets the MTA handle this), and it is currently unknown what the effects of upgrading are on the run_queue script, but I'll bet it's not good. :) The way to make sure that your Mailman queue is empty is to look in your $prefix/data directory. If you see any files that start with "mm_q." you've still got messages waiting on the queue. You can run $prefix/cron/run_queue by hand until the queue is cleared. Multiple invocations of this script won't help though; they lock each other out. Also, be warned that clearing the queue can take a while and may cause a large load on your system (two reasons why all this stuff has been redesigned in 2.x :). You do not need to run "make update" if you are upgrading from version 1.0 or 1.1 to version 2.0, since this is now run automatically when you do a "make install". However you should modify your crontab entries to execute cron/qrunner instead of cron/run_queue. You can also safely remove the file $prefix/cron/run_queue. If you are upgrading from a pre-1.0 beta, you need to follow the instructions below. -[ End Section ]- The rest of the doc is a good read. It's not there just to make the tarball bigger. -- Matthew Davis http://dogpound.vnet.net/ Where would we be without rhetorical questions? -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] RE: mailman-2.1-1.i386.rpm (Group mismatch)
Ok, I figured out you cannot copy the mailmanctl script to the init.d directory. This is why mailmanctl failed to start. But, I have another stumbling block. Messages are rejected with the following: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Command died with status 2: "/var/mailman/mail/mailman request test". Command output: Group mismatch error. Mailman expected the mail wrapper script to be executed as group "mail", but the system's mail server executed the mail script as group "nobody". Try tweaking the mail server to run the script as group "mail", or re-run configure, providing the command line option `--with-mail-gid=nobody'. -Original Message- From: Parker, David K Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 5:02 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: mailman-2.1-1.i386.rpm I've been fighting problems after upgrading Mailman 2.0x to 2.1-1 using mailman-2.1-1.i386.rpm. I'm making headway but now mailmanctl terminates with the following error: # /etc/rc.d/init.d/mailmanctl start Traceback (most recent call last): File "/etc/rc.d/init.d/mailmanctl", line 104, in ? import paths ImportError: No module named paths I'm thinking that something strange is happening with Python. Python versions 1.5x and 2.2x are installed. I noticed Mailman requires Python 2.x to run. (Interstingly enough, mailman-2.1-1.i386.rpm reports to require python and not python2.) I have packages that require both versions of Python. If I run "python -V" it indicates version 2. I'm almost at a point where I've either got to scrap mailman completely and revert to an earlier rpm or install clean from source. Any suggestions would be appreciated. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] stuped with postfix
* Paul Daniel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Trying to subscribe as an individual via the web interface appears to work but > entries in mailman/logs/subscribe are always labled as "pending". Is mailmanctl running? Else check FAQ 3.14 for other problems of mail not getting to the list. -- Matthew Davis http://dogpound.vnet.net/ The worst day fishing is better than the best day working. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] RE: mailman-2.1-1.i386.rpm (Group mismatch)
* Parker, David K ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Ok, I figured out you cannot copy the mailmanctl script to the init.d > directory. This is why mailmanctl failed to start. But, I have another > stumbling block. Messages are rejected with the following: > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Command died with status 2: > "/var/mailman/mail/mailman request test". Command output: Group mismatch > error. Mailman expected the mail wrapper script to be executed as group > "mail", but the system's mail server executed the mail script as group > "nobody". Try tweaking the mail server to run the script as group > "mail", > or re-run configure, providing the command line option > `--with-mail-gid=nobody'. And this is one reason I'm not a big fan of rpm's for mailman. They work for some people, but not everyone. The error description is very nice, it tells you exactly what to do. But considering you installed from an RPM, you never ran the ./configure file in the first place. You can either change the mail group on your system from 'nobody' to 'mail' or you can get the SRPM and rebuild it to use --with-mail-gid=nobody. -- Matthew Davis http://dogpound.vnet.net/ To boldly go and watch Star Trek re-runs. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Mailman-Users] Upgrade from 2.0x to 2.1
>I've done as you suggested but I keep getting the following messages every >few minutes: > >Subject: Cron /usr/bin/python -S /var/mailman/cron/qrunner >Body: /usr/bin/python: can't open file '/var/mailman/cron/qrunner' What are the persmissionf for /var/mailman/cron/qrunner? Does the file exist? Looks like root need permission to write to the file, so if it's set up with no write perms that could explain it -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman-2.1-1.i386.rpm
>I've been fighting problems after upgrading Mailman 2.0x to 2.1-1 using >mailman-2.1-1.i386.rpm. I'm making headway but now mailmanctl terminates >with the following error: > ># /etc/rc.d/init.d/mailmanctl start >Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/etc/rc.d/init.d/mailmanctl", line 104, in ? >import paths >ImportError: No module named paths > >I'm thinking that something strange is happening with Python. Python >versions 1.5x and 2.2x are installed. I noticed Mailman requires Python 2.x >to run. (Interstingly enough, mailman-2.1-1.i386.rpm reports to require >python and not python2.) I have packages that require both versions of >Python. If I run "python -V" it indicates version 2. I'm almost at a point >where I've either got to scrap mailman completely and revert to an earlier >rpm or install clean from source. Any suggestions would be appreciated. configure --with-python=/usr/bin/python2 -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] allow html email but not file attachments?
You could always front-end your mailing list aliases with a procmail script. Though I would think that the Content Filtering section of the Web-Admin would give you most of what you want. On Tue, 2003-01-28 at 19:38, Jeff Schoby wrote: > Since HTML email is a mime encoded email, how do I set up a list to > filter out file attachements but not HTML email? > > (Mailman n00b admin here) :) > > -Jeff > > > > > -- > Jeff Schoby - Unix Admin > City of Columbia, Missouri > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 573.874.6320 > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jonc%40nc.rr.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Configuration assistance - virtual host?
Mailman will handle this type of virtual situation very well. On Tue, 2003-01-28 at 19:59, Sarah Baker wrote: > I've read recent discussion and outline of the > virtual hosting feature. But it's not 100% > clear to me it will work to reach my goal. > > Mail in my land all only comes to a central server foo.org > who then directs mail to several servers > (ie server1.foo.org, server2.foo.org, etc) > using virtual user tables. > > For example > [EMAIL PROTECTED]goes to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [EMAIL PROTECTED]goes to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > I want Mailman to play in this environment such that > [EMAIL PROTECTED] goes to [EMAIL PROTECTED] via > virtual user table on foo.org > and > the list on mailmainserver.foo.org > uses the [EMAIL PROTECTED] name in mail headers, > and the web pages reflect it without hand > editting each page, etc. > > Will virtual hosting met my requirements? > I get the impression it will, but before I go off > and try to set it up - I thought to check in. > Any gotchas? > - > Sarah Baker > Carnegie Mellon University - West > 650-603-7014 > > > > > > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jonc%40nc.rr.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] email in TO: field
You want each mail that goes out to list the individual user in the To: field (rather than the list address)? This is only possible with Mailman version 2.1. You would need to configure your lists and turn on Personalization. On Tue, 2003-01-28 at 20:37, Alfred wrote: > Hi, > > i am a newbie in mailman and have a problem in my configuration: > i setup mailman (2.0.13 under RedHat 8.0) without any problems and it > run ok but when i send a message > to the list every mail goes out as "bulk" email, i like to send out the > messages > with the right emailadress in TO: field > > i can not find something in the mailman configuration to disable "bulk" > in TO: field there is now list@HOSTNAME > HOSTNAME = the hostname which is set in /etc/hosts > > i like to run 2 lists with different hostnames, i setup every list > correct but in the > TO: field there is ever the HOSTNAME > > thanks for your help > > Alfred > > ps. sorry for my bad english > > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jonc%40nc.rr.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: Bundling HTDIG
bob> P.S. The subject index in the digest are wrapping in a very bob> odd way. For example, the first line shows: Fixed in CVS I believe. -Barry Sorry, but email.Header is not useful for wrapping plain text string. Please check this out. http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=674401&group_id=103&atid=300103 -- Tokio Kikuchi, tkikuchi@ is.kochi-u.ac.jp http://weather.is.kochi-u.ac.jp/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] create a new list (web interface) + qmailaliases
After sensing a change in the lists you could use the ~mailman/bin/list_lists command to look at each mailing list in each domain (the command has a switch that lets you list lists by virtual domains). Jon Carnes On Tue, 2003-01-28 at 18:43, Rodrigo Lagos wrote: > Thats a good idea, the other bit here is that i need to create the .qmail > aliases based on domain, looking at the directory listing will not get me > the information of what domain this list belongs to. > any other ideas? > --rodrigo > > > > > >How about using a small script that is kicked off every 5 minutes via a > >cron job? > > > >Something like this (that looks at the last time the ~mailman/lists > >directory was modified)... > > > > LDT1=`ls -ld /usr/local/mailman/lists` > > LDT2=`cat /usr/local/mailman/checklist LDT 2>/dev/null` > > if [ "$LDT1" = "$LDT2" ]; then exit 0 ; fi > > # if the listing for the ~mailman/lists directory > > # hasn't changed then no lists have been created or deleted > > insert your script commands here... > > ... > > > >Good Luck - Jon Carnes > > > > > >On Mon, 2003-01-27 at 20:23, Rodrigo Lagos wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > I have Mailman 2.1 installed running with qmail, i have been using the > > > Mailman+qmail configuration for a while, but just now making the upgrade > >to > > > MM 2.1. > > > I was very happy to see the "create a new mailing list" in the admin > >page. I > > > have it all working with virtual domains, and its great. > > > I do have one question. Is there a way to use the create cgi to also > >kick > > > off creation of .qmail aliases for that list, maybe from create.py? i > >have > > > a small shell script that creates the aliases, but don't know how to > >kick > > > off the script after the list has been created from the same process. > > > Anyone done this ?? > > > ideas? > > > thanks > > > --rodrigo > > > > > > > > > _ > > > Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* > > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Mailman-Users mailing list > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > > > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > > > Searchable Archives: > >http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > > > > > This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jonc%40nc.rr.com > > > _ > The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jonc%40nc.rr.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] 2nd request: migrating a list from 1.1 to 2.1hosts?
--On Tuesday, January 28, 2003 5:44 PM -0500 Matthew Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -[ From mailman-2.1/UPGRADING ]- UPGRADING FROM 1.x to 2.x [...] Yes, I read that document (and I've used its advice in the past), unfortunately it doesn't cover my present situation because I'm not really "upgrading" any existing installation of Mailman. The 1.1 host is going to stay 1.1, and the 2.1 host is already running. I just want to migrate some lists from one to the other. I seem to have a couple of options which I will label "A" and "2". :) A: Clone the MM1.1 directory somewhere (on either the original or new host) and then "upgrade" that clone to 2.1. Copy the resulting config into the real 2.1 tree as a new list. (I should probably pre-create the migrated lists on the 2.1 host first, so I can do selective file overwrites without missing some of the structure. The upgraded clone directory can be deleted afterwards. 2: Create a 'template list' on the 2.1 host and dump the configs to text using dumpdb. Back-migrate dumpdb to the 1.1 host and use it to dump the 1.1 list to text. Extract just the member info from the 1.1 dump. Edit it to change numeric flag values (they seem to have changed a bit - no pun intended). Insert the modified member info into the template 2.1 dumps - the rest can be recreated in a few minutes. Use my 'loaddb' add-on to rebuild a working marshal from the modified dump. Go to the admin interface for that list and change list names, policies etc, as needed. A lot can be cut-n-pasted from the two hosts with two browser windows. I hope that the developer(s) understand that with the continued spread of Mailman, situations were listowners need to *migrate*, rather than upgrading in place, will be more common. It would be great to have some kind of robust export capability that was more or less version independent. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman-2.1-1.i386.rpm
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Parker, David K wrote: > I'm almost at a point where I've either got to scrap mailman completely > and revert to an earlier rpm or install clean from source. Any suggestions > would be appreciated. If you're banging your head against the wall, uninstall the rpm and install mailman from source (carefully reading the README, INSTALL, and UPGRADING files). Mailman is extremely easy to install from source, yet somewhat difficult to package properly as an rpm that will work with different MTA's out of the box (due to the security constraints of the few mailman binaries). If you insist on having an rpm, you should at the very least pull down the source rpm from your distro and then look at tweaking it as necessary for your MTA. Unless you really like messing around with spec files and building rpms, I'd just build from source. And I say that as someone that has built many a mailman rpm for my own systems (I *do* happen to like messing with spec files :). The biggest plus to compiling from source is that more people here will be able to help you through any issues because they won't have to guess what sort of odd things your distro maker did to produce the rpm. BTW, in case anyone wants to see the spec file for the rpm I made, it is available at www.pobox.com/~tmz/RPMS, along with the various patches and other source files (all except the main mailman package). This may or may not work on anyone else's machine. I built it for my own systems which are basically RedHat 7.x with postfix as the MTA. It might work with sendmail and I have some triggers in the spec file to deal with sendmail, but I haven't tested this at all since I don't plan to run sendmail on any system I have to maintain. If anything, I suspect the mail-gid setting of mailman might not work for sendmail. YMMV. - -- Todd OpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xD654075A | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp Experience is not what happens to a man. It is what a man does with what happens to him. -- Aldous Huxley -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: When crypto is outlawed bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl. iD8DBQE+N0Vuuv+09NZUB1oRAsG6AJ0f4ccq2jR3EpnvKj9FkVSU+csCYQCg3tFZ whP/5DeJqD5SNZDHmj2ol2E= =gjT9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] List config question
Jon helped me solve my install setup. Thanks, Jon! I promise to get better at understanding permissions! My next question is, can I control what Mailman appends to each message? The general config options don't seem to allow changes to that \\Greg ** This e-mail and any files transmitted with it may contain privileged or confidential information. It is solely for use by the individual for whom it is intended, even if addressed incorrectly. If you received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender; do not disclose, copy, distribute, or take any action in reliance on the contents of this information; and delete it from your system. Any other use of this e-mail is prohibited. Thank you for your compliance. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Is Mailman right for my app?
I'm building a web application in PHP to upload multiple mailing lists via text files and merge the addresses (eliminate duplicates) to create a single list. This final list will reside in my web db, and can have up to 50,000 email addresses. Up to this point is no problem, but... I need to then be able to create a mailing list from the list in my db (preferably by writing to a text file), and launch a mailer to the list via the mail server. After sending a single message I no longer need the list-- i.e. I can completely overwrite it next time, and someone else manages opt-outs. I would like to capture bounce info back into by application db though. My hosting company recommends Mailman. Is Mailman the right mail server software for me? Better than Majordomo and Mojomail (also available via my host on my vps)? I see the list mgmt guide, but I don't need to maintain the list at all, nor do I need to send another message to this list ever. If so, where can I find the documentation on how to create mailing lists remotely (with a web page)? Thanks to anyone who can help. --Bobby -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] archive and .htaccess
I have the 2.1-7 RPM from RedHat's Rawhide installed on RedHat 7.3, with Postfix 1.7 (the RedHat 7.3 RPM, with some minor tweaks). It's mostly working. I have a test list created with members subscribed, but the archive doesn't seem to be working. From https://server/mailman/listinfo/list/, I click the archive link, which takes me to https://server/pipermail/list/ and I get back a 404 from the web server. I have the Alias defined in my Apache config. /var/mailman/archives/public/list[.mbox] is a symlink to the corresponding file in the private archive folder. I think it's a problem with either the Apache config (directory index diabled?) or file permissions. I want to have the mailman site 'protected' with a username/password, but am not sure where the .htaccess file should go to do this. -- Justin Georgeson UnBound Technologies, Inc. http://www.unboundtech.com Main 713.329.9330 Fax713.460.4051 Mobile 512.789.1962 5295 Hollister Road Houston, TX 77040 Real Applications using Real Wireless Intelligence(tm) -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] archive and .htaccess
I'm pretty sure it has to be the directory indexes thing. Adding index.html to the end of the archive URL it works. I tried adding +Indexes in the Option line for the archive directory in /etc/httpd/conf.d/mailman.conf, but that seems to make the whole mailman site give me a 404. Justin Georgeson wrote: I have the 2.1-7 RPM from RedHat's Rawhide installed on RedHat 7.3, with Postfix 1.7 (the RedHat 7.3 RPM, with some minor tweaks). It's mostly working. I have a test list created with members subscribed, but the archive doesn't seem to be working. From https://server/mailman/listinfo/list/, I click the archive link, which takes me to https://server/pipermail/list/ and I get back a 404 from the web server. I have the Alias defined in my Apache config. /var/mailman/archives/public/list[.mbox] is a symlink to the corresponding file in the private archive folder. I think it's a problem with either the Apache config (directory index diabled?) or file permissions. I want to have the mailman site 'protected' with a username/password, but am not sure where the .htaccess file should go to do this. -- Justin Georgeson UnBound Technologies, Inc. http://www.unboundtech.com Main 713.329.9330 Fax713.460.4051 Mobile 512.789.1962 5295 Hollister Road Houston, TX 77040 Real Applications using Real Wireless Intelligence(tm) -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] archive and .htaccess
>I have the 2.1-7 RPM from RedHat's Rawhide installed on RedHat 7.3, with >Postfix 1.7 (the RedHat 7.3 RPM, with some minor tweaks). It's mostly >working. I have a test list created with members subscribed, but the >archive doesn't seem to be working. From >https://server/mailman/listinfo/list/, I click the archive link, which >takes me to https://server/pipermail/list/ and I get back a 404 from the >web server. I have the Alias defined in my Apache config. >/var/mailman/archives/public/list[.mbox] is a symlink to the >corresponding file in the private archive folder. I think it's a problem >with either the Apache config (directory index diabled?) or file >permissions. I just went through this yesterday. The problem for me was that the group permissions were not set guid. I did chmod g+s and the archives were accessible after that. >I want to have the mailman site 'protected' with a username/password, >but am not sure where the .htaccess file should go to do this. It goes into the directory that you want to protect. This is not real protection, as the username/password pair are transmitted in plain text. Best to put the entire area under ssl and use mod_auth_pam to authenticate the users (if they are system users). -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] archive and .htaccess
>I'm pretty sure it has to be the directory indexes thing. Adding >index.html to the end of the archive URL it works. I tried adding >+Indexes in the Option line for the archive directory in >/etc/httpd/conf.d/mailman.conf, but that seems to make the whole mailman >site give me a 404. You should just add index.html to the Indexes parameter in httpd.conf. Doing it the way you did is restrictive if you add more lists later on. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] archive and .htaccess
Keith Mastin wrote: I have the 2.1-7 RPM from RedHat's Rawhide installed on RedHat 7.3, with Postfix 1.7 (the RedHat 7.3 RPM, with some minor tweaks). It's mostly working. I have a test list created with members subscribed, but the archive doesn't seem to be working. From https://server/mailman/listinfo/list/, I click the archive link, which takes me to https://server/pipermail/list/ and I get back a 404 from the web server. I have the Alias defined in my Apache config. /var/mailman/archives/public/list[.mbox] is a symlink to the corresponding file in the private archive folder. I think it's a problem with either the Apache config (directory index diabled?) or file permissions. I just went through this yesterday. The problem for me was that the group permissions were not set guid. I did chmod g+s and the archives were accessible after that. Here is my global DirectoryIndex. DirectoryIndex index.html index.htm index.shtml index.php index.php4 index.php3 index.phtml index.cgi I just tried adding that to the section for /var/mailman/archives, with no luck. Here is the relevant config (which gives me a 404 accessing the archive) ScriptAlias /mailman/ /var/mailman/cgi-bin/ Alias /pipermail/ /var/mailman/archives/public/ DirectoryIndex index.html Options +FollowSymlinks AllowOverride AuthConfig I want to have the mailman site 'protected' with a username/password, but am not sure where the .htaccess file should go to do this. It goes into the directory that you want to protect. This is not real protection, as the username/password pair are transmitted in plain text. Best to put the entire area under ssl and use mod_auth_pam to authenticate the users (if they are system users). I don't have the MailMan files in the document root of the VirtualHost I added it to (the SSL enabled VirtualHost). So I added the tag for /var/mailman at the end of the config chunk above. That seems to do it. :) -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] MS Exchange as a relay computer?
Hi Alex, > I have my Exchange setup to allow 500 recipients per message. Mailman > is also configured to send 500 recipients per message. As a result > all 55 aol.com, 65 yahoo.com, or 51 hotmail.com recipients on my > largest list are send to Exchange on the same message. Exchange can > send a single message to handle all of those recipients instead of > sending 5 or 10 as would occur when using the recommended batching of > 10 recipients per message for postfix and other popular Unix-based > MTAs. Umm, no, that's the exact same way it works on any of my systems with Postfix. I think I have one of my major mailing list machines currently set at 200, just to pick a number. > Exchange 2000 has no problem sending the same message to multiple > domains at the same time. The remote deliver agent on most Unix MTAs > can only send to one domain at a time so if you set the batching to > 500 then you single thread your delivery and it can take forever for > messages to get out. Not true at all. My mail servers connect to a ton of mail servers upon a message going out to a large list. I'd say 50% of the messages get delivered within the first couple minutes. We're talking message counts in the thousands, and this is with somewhat small hardware (Celeron 500Mhz, 256MB RAM). Although I've never messed directly with Exchange, other people's MS Exchange servers have caused me no end of grief, with them re-injecting mail, or incorrectly bouncing it (with unparsable bounce messages). Knowing a little bit about Windows, I'd bet if you stacked two machines side-by-side, a Exchange box and a Linux box running Postfix, identical hardware, and dumped a few thousand messages on them (one server at a time), and measured the time it took to deliver the first 50%, you'd find the Linux box would have done it quicker, and used less system resources. It certainly would be an interesting test! The summary is that I believe there is no benefit to running Exchange for a mailing list, and in fact, there are some potentially negatives for running it (security being the biggest, compatibility being next). Bob -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman-2.1-1.i386.rpm
Install clean from source, be sure to point the ./configure script to your Pyton2.2.1 executable. Good Luck - Jon Carnes On Tue, 2003-01-28 at 23:01, Parker, David K wrote: > I've been fighting problems after upgrading Mailman 2.0x to 2.1-1 using > mailman-2.1-1.i386.rpm. I'm making headway but now mailmanctl terminates > with the following error: > > # /etc/rc.d/init.d/mailmanctl start > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/etc/rc.d/init.d/mailmanctl", line 104, in ? > import paths > ImportError: No module named paths > > I'm thinking that something strange is happening with Python. Python > versions 1.5x and 2.2x are installed. I noticed Mailman requires Python 2.x > to run. (Interstingly enough, mailman-2.1-1.i386.rpm reports to require > python and not python2.) I have packages that require both versions of > Python. If I run "python -V" it indicates version 2. I'm almost at a point > where I've either got to scrap mailman completely and revert to an earlier > rpm or install clean from source. Any suggestions would be appreciated. > > [root@mailgate lists]# rpm -q python > python-1.5.2-38 > [root@mailgate lists]# rpm -q python2 > python2-2.2-16 > [root@mailgate lists]# python -V > Python 2.2 > [root@mailgate bin]# ls python* -la > -rwxr-xr-x2 root root 875272 Jan 25 18:38 python > -rwxr-xr-x2 root root 875272 Jan 25 18:38 python1.5 > -rwxr-xr-x2 root root 875272 Apr 12 2002 python2 > -rwxr-xr-x2 root root 875272 Apr 12 2002 python2.2 > > [root@mailgate lists]# rpm -q --whatrequires python > Distutils-1.0.2-2 > PyXML-0.7-4 > 4Suite-0.11.1-8 > pygtk-0.6.9-3 > python-popt-0.8.8-7.x.2 > python-clap-1.0.0-3 > python-xmlrpc-1.5.1-7.x.3 > rpm-python-4.0.4-7x.18 > redhat-config-network-1.0.0-1 > bindconf-1.6.3-1 > rhn_register-2.8.27-1.7.3 > up2date-2.8.39-1.7.3 > python-devel-1.5.2-38 > mailman-2.1-1 > [root@mailgate lists]# rpm -q --whatrequires python2 > pygtk2-1.99.8-7 > redhat-config-users-1.0.1-5 > > > Thanks, > David Parker > Systems/Network Administrator > Information Technology Services > City of Bryan, Texas > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jonc%40nc.rr.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] List config question
Glad you're up and running! You can put your own footer on each message, is that what you are looking for? On Wed, 2003-01-29 at 03:31, Martin, Greg (CSC) wrote: > Jon helped me solve my install setup. Thanks, Jon! I promise to get better > at understanding permissions! > > My next question is, can I control what Mailman appends to each message? > The general config options don't seem to allow changes to that > > \\Greg > > > ** > This e-mail and any files transmitted with it may contain privileged or > confidential information. It is solely for use by the individual for whom > it is intended, even if addressed incorrectly. If you received this e-mail > in error, please notify the sender; do not disclose, copy, distribute, or > take any action in reliance on the contents of this information; and delete > it from your system. Any other use of this e-mail is prohibited. Thank you > for your compliance. > > > > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jonc%40nc.rr.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Is Mailman right for my app?
You don't need a mailing list manager. You have a text file with all your valid addresses, simply write a small script to parse through the file and BCC all the folks in that list (or actually send it TO each person - one at a time). You could use ~mailman/bin/sync_members to sync up a Mailman mailing list with a text file of email addresses (one per line). But why go to that trouble when you are just going to throw that list away after one message? Jon Carnes On Wed, 2003-01-29 at 03:50, Bobby and Denise wrote: > I'm building a web application in PHP to upload multiple mailing lists via > text files and merge the addresses (eliminate duplicates) to create a single > list. This final list will reside in my web db, and can have up to 50,000 > email addresses. Up to this point is no problem, but... > > I need to then be able to create a mailing list from the list in my db > (preferably by writing to a text file), and launch a mailer to the list via > the mail server. After sending a single message I no longer need the > list-- i.e. I can completely overwrite it next time, and someone else > manages opt-outs. I would like to capture bounce info back into by > application db though. My hosting company recommends Mailman. > > Is Mailman the right mail server software for me? Better than Majordomo and > Mojomail (also available via my host on my vps)? I see the list mgmt guide, > but I don't need to maintain the list at all, nor do I need to send another > message to this list ever. If so, where can I find the documentation on how > to create mailing lists remotely (with a web page)? > > Thanks to anyone who can help. > > --Bobby > > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jonc%40nc.rr.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] MS Exchange as a relay computer?
* John A. Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > IIRC 50 was chosen as the default_destination_recipient_limit default > because too many mailers balk or choke on more. Do you remember > differently? Or, do you actually see many SMTP listeners willing to > swallow 10,000 recipients? Doesn't really matter. If Postfix gets a 554 too many recipients after the 501st recipient, it will deliver for these 500 recipients, and will retry 501...end in the next try. > Ralf> And on the receiving side Postfix's smtpd accepts 1000 > Ralf> recipients. Which should be increased for a mailing list > Ralf> server as well if you inject via SMTP (which is fastest!) > > FWIW, in unfamiliar surroundings I would be inclined to use > > SMTP_MAX_RCPTS = 1000 > > in Mailman/mm_cfg.py, double the 500 in Mailman/Defaults.py, as a > starting value before tweaking the Postfix limits. That's probably safe. -- Ralf Hildebrandt (Im Auftrag des Referat V a) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Charite Campus MitteTel. +49 (0)30-450 570-155 Referat V a - Kommunikationsnetze - Fax. +49 (0)30-450 570-916 "If you put a billion monkeys in front of a billion typewriters typing at random, they would reproduce the entire collected works of Usenet in about ... five minutes." -Anon. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
