Re: [Mailman-Users] Admin problems

2003-02-22 Thread James Devenish
The original poster has had success. For anyone trawling the archives,
here are some notes (hope he doesn't mind me posting them here):

> Got it! Mailman is great but the docs are confusing.
[...]
> adding these two lines at the bottom of mm_cfg.py
> solved the problem:
> 
> ## Put YOUR site-specific settings in /bin/mm_cfg.py
> add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST)
> DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'https://%s/mailman/'
> #
> 
> I then ran  fix_url on my mail list (teachlist in my example below)
> ./withlist -l -r fix_url teachlist



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Re: [Mailman-Users] Admin problems

2003-02-22 Thread James Devenish
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
on Sat, Feb 22, 2003 at 11:08:42PM -0500, Jim LaSalle wrote:
> I don't think my Mailman admin html pages are working.  I can login but 
> I can't defer/accept/reject/discard any of the messages. I click "submit 
> all data" but I'm returned to the same page and nothing is done.
> 
> What am I doing wrong?

This is the same symptom I experienced with admindb (even though main
admin worked for me). See archived discussion from *this month*:




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[Mailman-Users] Admin problems

2003-02-22 Thread Jim LaSalle
I don't think my Mailman admin html pages are working.  I can login but 
I can't defer/accept/reject/discard any of the messages. I click "submit 
all data" but I'm returned to the same page and nothing is done.

What am I doing wrong?  I've never seen a working installation of 
Mailman so I don't know how it should perform.

Thanks.

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[Mailman-Users] List email pre-approval

2003-02-22 Thread Steve Sterling
With Majordomo, you could pre-approve a message to the list, say from an
otherwise unsubscribed user or to a moderated list.

I tried with my mailman, but it treats the Approved:  first line
as normal message body. Somewhere, I remember seeing that Mailman supports
such things, but can't find any documentation on syntax, etc.

Can anyone point me the right direction, or is that not a feature?

Steve


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Changing Moderate Bit

2003-02-22 Thread Larry Hansford
Please disregard this previous post -- I forgot to look at the Web 
interface for this option.

Larry

At 06:34 PM 2/22/2003, you wrote:
I have a list with a little over 3,000 members, that I want to change to a 
Newsletter-type list.  To do this,  I need to set the Moderate bit for 
each subscribed member.   Is there any way to bulk change the Moderate bit 
for the entire list?  I looked through the scripts in the bin directory, 
but did not see any command to perform this task.

Thanks!

Larry


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[Mailman-Users] Changing Moderate Bit

2003-02-22 Thread Larry Hansford
I have a list with a little over 3,000 members, that I want to change to a 
Newsletter-type list.  To do this,  I need to set the Moderate bit for each 
subscribed member.   Is there any way to bulk change the Moderate bit for 
the entire list?  I looked through the scripts in the bin directory, but 
did not see any command to perform this task.

Thanks!

Larry

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Questions

2003-02-22 Thread Jon Carnes
On Fri, 2003-02-21 at 22:59, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 1.  Can this program delete the wrong addresses automatically, where as with 
> aol you have to do it manually?

Nothing deletes a "wrong" address automatically, but if the address
bounces too often then Mailman will automatically move the address over
to "No Mail" so that it no longer sends mail to the address.

> 
> 2.  Can you import your maillist from a dbf format and include it in your 
> program or does it have to be reentered?

DBF format - no.  You can dump your mailing list out to a text file (one
address per line) and then use that to subscribe folks.
> 
> 3. How many emails can be sent at one time?

How many emails can your mailserver handle?

Note: Mailman is not a personal mailing list handler, it is a server
(web-based) mailing list management application that is designed for
corporate or community use.  If can easily be installed on any common
version of Unix or Linux (or Mac OS-X), but it is not really suitable
for use on a Windows based server.



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Re: [Mailman-Users] qfiles commands directory? Tried to deleteoutgoing message....

2003-02-22 Thread Jon Carnes
The first thing you do is stop your mail server:
  /etc/rc.d/init.d/sendmail stop

Next stop Mailman from processing the queues:
  /usr/local/mailman/bin/mailmanctl stop

Now find the message.  Is it in the mailservers outbound queue?
  /var/spool/mqueue/..

There are host of commands (depending on your MTA) to tell you if a
message is in your outbound queue.  For sendmail the following works:
  sendmail -bp

You can also look at the logs for both Mailman and the MTA to see where
the message is currently in the system.

The mailman queues are in:
  /usr/local/mailman/qfiles/..

If you have stopped the Mailmanctl daemon from running then you can
delete the msg.db and msg.pck files for a message without any harm.
==

Unless you move at super-sonic speeds you are not going to intercept the
message before Mailman has processed it (unless we're talking about a
really big list or a truly ancient mail server), so more than likely you
will be dealing with the MTA on the box.

Good Luck - Jon Carnes

On Sat, 2003-02-22 at 00:59, NOW Website Coordinator wrote:
> I was trying to stop an outgoing message and wasn't quite sure where to do 
> it.  I deleted two files in the qfiles/commands directory which seemed to 
> be relevant, but it was too late, the message was on its way out.
> 
> I've accepted that fact, now my questions are:
> 
> 1) What problems could I have caused by deleting something in the 
> qfiles/commands directory?
> 2) How *do* you stop an outgoing mailman message?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> Sarah Stapleton-Gray
> 
> Web Site Coordinator
> National Organization for Women
> http://www.now.org
> 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Images?

2003-02-22 Thread Jon Carnes
You can allow your lists to pass pictures or not, its up to you. 
Mailman can handle anything that email can handle.  By default it will
pass all sorts of attachments.  

On Fri, 2003-02-21 at 16:38, Foster, Paul wrote:
> I am interested in a mail list where users can email images as well as text.
> I did not see anywhere in the documentation is this exists.  Can mailman
> support images as well as text?  If not, does anyone have any
> recommendations?
> 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Help

2003-02-22 Thread Jon Carnes
You should point them to the Listinfo page for your list.

On Fri, 2003-02-21 at 21:36, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I am trying to set up my list so people can subscribe or unsubscribe by just 
> entering their email address on a specific page.. Any ideas?
> 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Error using postfix and mailman

2003-02-22 Thread Jon Carnes
When setup properly (using the README.POSTFIX) then /usr/sbin/postalias
(Postfix) will access the alias files as user mailman.

The files in /usr/local/mailman/data/.. should be set as:
-rw-rw-r--1 mailman  mailman  4919 Feb 11 17:08 aliases
-rw-rw-r--1 mailman  mailman 12288 Feb 11 17:08 aliases.db

Good Luck - Jon Carnes

On Sat, 2003-02-22 at 15:39, Phil Stracchino wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 21, 2003 at 04:39:29PM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > I was trying to create a list via the cgi scripts but recieved the
> > following error!
> 
> 
> >   File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MTA/Postfix.py", line 226, in create
> > _update_maps()
> >   File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MTA/Postfix.py", line 47, in
> > _update_maps
> > raise RuntimeError, msg % (acmd, status, errstr)
> > RuntimeError: command failed: /usr/sbin/postalias
> > /usr/local/mailman/data/aliases (status: 1, Operation not permitted)
> 
> The ownership and/or permissions on /usr/local/mailman/data/aliases.db
> are incorrect.  Make sure that the user or group that the CGI runs under
> (typically the gid you set in --with-cgi-gid) has write permissions to
> /usr/local/mailman/data/aliases.db.
> 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Archiving doesn't work under Mac OS X 10.1

2003-02-22 Thread Jon Carnes
The function is used only once in Mailman, inside i18n.py

  year, mon, day, hh, mm, ss, wday, ydat, dst = time.strptime(date)

You could easily replace this line of code with a small block that does
the same thing but without referencing the strptime function.

In fact, looking at the code, it looks like there is already an existing
block that would do this for you... Try deleting the 4 lines of code
that I marked with an * 

if isinstance(date, StringType):
try:
*year, mon, day, hh, mm, ss, wday, ydat, dst = 
time.strptime(date)
*tzname = time.tzname[dst and 1 or 0]
*except ValueError:
*try:
wday, mon, day, hms, year = date.split()
hh, mm, ss = hms.split(':')
year = int(year)
day = int(day)
hh = int(hh)
mm = int(mm)
ss = int(ss)
except ValueError:
return date
===
If that works then you won't need the time.strptime function at all.

Good Luck - Jon 

BTW: good detective work tracing down the lack of strptime function in
Max OSX v10.1!

On Sat, 2003-02-22 at 09:40, Peter Bengtson wrote:
> Some time ago, I reported that archiving doesn't work in Mailman 2.1.1 
> under Mac OS X 10.1. Every attempt to archive a message would result in 
> the following entry in 'logs/error':
> 
> > Feb 22 00:15:42 2003 (1950) SHUNTING: 
> > 1045869340.680055+e0e16d1c92bfc3454ac70ca2586b40b6f9ba5a4e
> > Feb 22 15:20:28 2003 (1950) Uncaught runner exception: 'module' object 
> > has no attribute 'strptime'
> > Feb 22 15:20:28 2003 (1950) Traceback (most recent call last):
> >   File "/Users/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 105, in _oneloop
> > self._onefile(msg, msgdata)
> >   File "/Users/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 155, in _onefile
> > keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata)
> >   File "/Users/mailman/Mailman/Queue/ArchRunner.py", line 73, in 
> > _dispose
> > mlist.ArchiveMail(msg)
> >   File "/Users/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py", line 207, in 
> > ArchiveMail
> > h.close()
> >   File "/Users/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/pipermail.py", line 304, in 
> > close
> > self.update_dirty_archives()
> >   File "/Users/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/pipermail.py", line 518, in 
> > update_dirty_archives
> > self.update_archive(i)
> >   File "/Users/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/HyperArch.py", line 1038, in 
> > update_archive
> > self.__super_update_archive(archive)
> >   File "/Users/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/pipermail.py", line 424, in 
> > update_archive
> > self._update_simple_index(hdr, archive, arcdir)
> >   File "/Users/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/pipermail.py", line 434, in 
> > _update_simple_index
> > self.write_index_header()
> >   File "/Users/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/HyperArch.py", line 955, in 
> > write_index_header
> > print self.html_head()
> >   File "/Users/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/HyperArch.py", line 640, in 
> > html_head
> > d = {"listname": html_quote(mlist.real_name, self.lang),
> >   File "/Users/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/HyperArch.py", line 638, in 
> > quotetime
> > return html_quote(i18n.ctime(s), self.lang)
> >   File "/Users/mailman/Mailman/i18n.py", line 98, in ctime
> > year, mon, day, hh, mm, ss, wday, ydat, dst = time.strptime(date)
> > AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'strptime'
> 
> Further research shows that the offending function, strptime, doesn't 
> exist in Mac OS X 10.1 - the function isn't defined, which causes 
> HAVE_STRPTIME to become undefined by ./configure. (I don't know the 
> situation under 10.2.). Doing a
> 
>   python
>   import time
>   time.strptime
> 
> results in an error message, saying that strptime is an unknown entity.
> 
> At first I thought this might be a bug which only showed up when 
> archiving was set to something else than the distribution defaults, but 
> changing or removing the date clobbering settings in mm_cfg.py didn't 
> improve the situation. All archiving still seems to break.
> 
> A clean install of Python (2.2.2) doesn't improve the situation, either.
> 
> If 'strptime' is unavailable in 10.1, then all Mailman users under Mac 
> OS X 10.1 wouldn't be able to archive any messages at all. Are there 
> very few users on Mac OS X, or don't people generally use automatic 
> archiving? I would be interested to hear from anybody who has got it to 
> work under Mailman 2.x and Mac OS X 10.1.
> 
> Archiving used to work flawlessly - I have quite extensive archives 
> produced by a now defunct mailing list - but in one of the later 
> versions, presumable where the archiving routines were rewritten or 
> updated, it stopped working.
> 
> Should Mailman assume that 'strptime' is available? Is there a 
> workaround?
> 
> Any ideas or pointers most welcome.
> 
>   / Peter Bengtson
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Re: [Mailman-Users]

2003-02-22 Thread Jon Carnes
Change the template in ~mailman/templates/en/..

If you want to make the changes just to one list, then see the archives
(basically create a directory ~mailman/list//en/.. and copy,
then edit the template there).

Good Luck - Jon Carnes

On Fri, 2003-02-21 at 16:36, Bellin, Jennifer wrote:
> I'm editing the default html for this page: 
> http://lists.atcllc.com/mailman/listinfo/csenews
> 
> When you sign up to subscribe however, there are extra html tags that get included 
> in the page that override my style sheet that I've attached...
> 
> for example, by viewing the source code on the page that follows the subscription 
> page, you'll see a duplicate set of   and  tags above mine. 
> However, the body tag that gets inserted, is overriding my body tag and cause the 
> background color to be white instead of what I intended it to be. 
> 
> How can I eliminate this extra code being imposed on my code? 
> 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Error using postfix and mailman

2003-02-22 Thread Todd
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I was trying to create a list via the cgi scripts but recieved the
> following error!
[...]
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "/usr/local/mailman/scripts/driver", line 87, in run_main
> main()
>   File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/create.py", line 55, in main
> process_request(doc, cgidata)
>   File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/create.py", line 217, in
> process_request
> sys.modules[modname].create(mlist, cgi=1)
>   File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MTA/Postfix.py", line 226, in create
> _update_maps()
>   File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MTA/Postfix.py", line 47, in
> _update_maps
> raise RuntimeError, msg % (acmd, status, errstr)
> RuntimeError: command failed: /usr/sbin/postalias
> /usr/local/mailman/data/aliases (status: 1, Operation not permitted)

The permissions of /usr/local/mailman/data/aliases are likely not correct.
They should be something like:

# ls -l aliases
-rw-rw-r--1 mailman  mailman  4.0k Feb  8 00:04 aliases

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Error using postfix and mailman

2003-02-22 Thread Phil Stracchino
On Fri, Feb 21, 2003 at 04:39:29PM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I was trying to create a list via the cgi scripts but recieved the
> following error!


>   File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MTA/Postfix.py", line 226, in create
> _update_maps()
>   File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MTA/Postfix.py", line 47, in
> _update_maps
> raise RuntimeError, msg % (acmd, status, errstr)
> RuntimeError: command failed: /usr/sbin/postalias
> /usr/local/mailman/data/aliases (status: 1, Operation not permitted)

The ownership and/or permissions on /usr/local/mailman/data/aliases.db
are incorrect.  Make sure that the user or group that the CGI runs under
(typically the gid you set in --with-cgi-gid) has write permissions to
/usr/local/mailman/data/aliases.db.


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[Mailman-Users] Questions

2003-02-22 Thread Swanko007
1.  Can this program delete the wrong addresses automatically, where as with 
aol you have to do it manually?

2.  Can you import your maillist from a dbf format and include it in your 
program or does it have to be reentered?

3. How many emails can be sent at one time?


Martiele Swanko
The Trumpeter Foundation
7757 SW 86th Street
Suite C-109
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Phone (305)668-6462
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[Mailman-Users] Help

2003-02-22 Thread JosephDirosa
I am trying to set up my list so people can subscribe or unsubscribe by just 
entering their email address on a specific page.. Any ideas?


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[Mailman-Users] Error using postfix and mailman

2003-02-22 Thread mmckenzie
I was trying to create a list via the cgi scripts but recieved the
following error!

See error:

Bug in Mailman version 2.1.1


We're sorry, we hit a bug!


If you would like to help us identify the problem, please email a copy of
this page to the webmaster for this site with a description of what
happened. Thanks!
Traceback:


Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/mailman/scripts/driver", line 87, in run_main
main()
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/create.py", line 55, in main
process_request(doc, cgidata)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/create.py", line 217, in
process_request
sys.modules[modname].create(mlist, cgi=1)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MTA/Postfix.py", line 226, in create
_update_maps()
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MTA/Postfix.py", line 47, in
_update_maps
raise RuntimeError, msg % (acmd, status, errstr)
RuntimeError: command failed: /usr/sbin/postalias
/usr/local/mailman/data/aliases (status: 1, Operation not permitted)


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Learning Environment & Internet Services
University of Nebraska Medical Center
Phone: 559-9306
Cell Phone: 708-1493
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[Mailman-Users] Images?

2003-02-22 Thread Foster, Paul
I am interested in a mail list where users can email images as well as text.
I did not see anywhere in the documentation is this exists.  Can mailman
support images as well as text?  If not, does anyone have any
recommendations?

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[Mailman-Users]

2003-02-22 Thread Bellin, Jennifer
I'm editing the default html for this page: 
http://lists.atcllc.com/mailman/listinfo/csenews

When you sign up to subscribe however, there are extra html tags that get included in 
the page that override my style sheet that I've attached...

for example, by viewing the source code on the page that follows the subscription 
page, you'll see a duplicate set of   and  tags above mine. However, 
the body tag that gets inserted, is overriding my body tag and cause the background 
color to be white instead of what I intended it to be. 

How can I eliminate this extra code being imposed on my code? 

Jenny

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[Mailman-Users] Getting those pesky addresses and URLs right

2003-02-22 Thread Phil Stracchino
After much experimentation, I've discovered that the best I can do seems
to be a situation in which the list mailto addresses and URLs are
correct if I create a list with bin/newlist, but will be wrong if
created through the web interface.

I have the following settings:

DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'caerllewys.net'
DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'www.caerllewys.net'
DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s/mailman/'
add_virtualhost('caerllewys.net','www.caerllewys.net')
VIRTUAL_HOST_OVERVIEW = 0

If I create a list with newlist, I get...
-
To post to this list, send your email to:

  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

General information about the mailing list is at:

  http://www.caerllewys.net/mailman/listinfo/test
-
...etc, and all the addresses and URLs in the headers are likewise
correct...
-
List-Post: 
List-Subscribe: ,

-
However, if I create my list through the web interface, I get instead
something like this...
-
To post to this list, send your email to:

  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

General information about the mailing list is at:

  http://caerllewys.net/mailman/listinfo/test2
-
...and the headers look like this...
-
List-Post: 
List-Subscribe: ,

-
Can anyone:
  (1)  offer a theory as to why this disparity should be present?
  (2)  offer any suggestions for how to fix it?

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[Mailman-Users] Duplicate Issue numbers

2003-02-22 Thread Tspeight
For the second time in a month Mailman 2.1 has created a Digest with the 
same "Issue #" as the previous Digest.  We are running RH 7.3.

Has any one else had this problem?

Thomas

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[Mailman-Users] personalize: subscribe via email with realname

2003-02-22 Thread Jan Kellermann
Hi!

Is it possible to subscribe a mailinglist via email and give the realname in
the subject like you can give the address?

Thanks
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[Mailman-Users] personalize: user_name / user_address

2003-02-22 Thread Jan Kellermann
Hi!

We need personalized mails with the real username (user_name) or - when not
available - the emailaddress (user_address). But when I use the following:

Hallo %(user_name)s %(user_address)s!

I'll get in case of no user_name:
Hallo nicht verfügbar [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Is it possible that mailman writes nothing in case of no user_name?

Or better: where are these variables created so that there can be written an
either..or? Maybe in next version it were great to get a variable that is
set with the realname or - when not available - with the emailaddress.


thank you
kelly.



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[Mailman-Users] Archiving doesn't work under Mac OS X 10.1

2003-02-22 Thread Peter Bengtson
Some time ago, I reported that archiving doesn't work in Mailman 2.1.1 
under Mac OS X 10.1. Every attempt to archive a message would result in 
the following entry in 'logs/error':

Feb 22 00:15:42 2003 (1950) SHUNTING: 
1045869340.680055+e0e16d1c92bfc3454ac70ca2586b40b6f9ba5a4e
Feb 22 15:20:28 2003 (1950) Uncaught runner exception: 'module' object 
has no attribute 'strptime'
Feb 22 15:20:28 2003 (1950) Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/Users/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 105, in _oneloop
self._onefile(msg, msgdata)
  File "/Users/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 155, in _onefile
keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata)
  File "/Users/mailman/Mailman/Queue/ArchRunner.py", line 73, in 
_dispose
mlist.ArchiveMail(msg)
  File "/Users/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py", line 207, in 
ArchiveMail
h.close()
  File "/Users/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/pipermail.py", line 304, in 
close
self.update_dirty_archives()
  File "/Users/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/pipermail.py", line 518, in 
update_dirty_archives
self.update_archive(i)
  File "/Users/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/HyperArch.py", line 1038, in 
update_archive
self.__super_update_archive(archive)
  File "/Users/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/pipermail.py", line 424, in 
update_archive
self._update_simple_index(hdr, archive, arcdir)
  File "/Users/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/pipermail.py", line 434, in 
_update_simple_index
self.write_index_header()
  File "/Users/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/HyperArch.py", line 955, in 
write_index_header
print self.html_head()
  File "/Users/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/HyperArch.py", line 640, in 
html_head
d = {"listname": html_quote(mlist.real_name, self.lang),
  File "/Users/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/HyperArch.py", line 638, in 
quotetime
return html_quote(i18n.ctime(s), self.lang)
  File "/Users/mailman/Mailman/i18n.py", line 98, in ctime
year, mon, day, hh, mm, ss, wday, ydat, dst = time.strptime(date)
AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'strptime'
Further research shows that the offending function, strptime, doesn't 
exist in Mac OS X 10.1 - the function isn't defined, which causes 
HAVE_STRPTIME to become undefined by ./configure. (I don't know the 
situation under 10.2.). Doing a

python
import time
time.strptime
results in an error message, saying that strptime is an unknown entity.

At first I thought this might be a bug which only showed up when 
archiving was set to something else than the distribution defaults, but 
changing or removing the date clobbering settings in mm_cfg.py didn't 
improve the situation. All archiving still seems to break.

A clean install of Python (2.2.2) doesn't improve the situation, either.

If 'strptime' is unavailable in 10.1, then all Mailman users under Mac 
OS X 10.1 wouldn't be able to archive any messages at all. Are there 
very few users on Mac OS X, or don't people generally use automatic 
archiving? I would be interested to hear from anybody who has got it to 
work under Mailman 2.x and Mac OS X 10.1.

Archiving used to work flawlessly - I have quite extensive archives 
produced by a now defunct mailing list - but in one of the later 
versions, presumable where the archiving routines were rewritten or 
updated, it stopped working.

Should Mailman assume that 'strptime' is available? Is there a 
workaround?

Any ideas or pointers most welcome.

	/ Peter Bengtson

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Problems with Apache on different port

2003-02-22 Thread Jorge Godoy
Jon Carnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> A couple of folks have done this and they needed to use
> ~mailman/bin/fix_url.py to modify the url's inside the configurations of
> their existing lists in order for it work.  You may also need to modify
> the default urls in ~mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py
>
> Note: a redirect to the port will not work as the redirect loses all the
> post information.
>
> HtH, Jon Carnes

Thanks, Jon!


I had to add the following to mm_cfg.py to make it work:

DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s:8080/mailman/'


If the %s match grabbed the port from the URL, this change wouldn't be
needed. Is there some way to implement that in newer versions? (Or is
it already done?)



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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.2.1 and Apache running on adifferent port

2003-02-22 Thread Jorge Godoy
Larry Rosenman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>> Is it a bug of mine or from Mailman's code?
> what mailman version, please?

Mailman 2.1.1... I'm sorry. I put it wrong in the Subject. 



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[Mailman-Users] htdig patches and information leakage

2003-02-22 Thread Rupa Schomaker
One can choose to search any archive (even private ones) by
constructing the URL correctly.  If "Short" mode one can find subjects
for the private list.  In "Long" mode one can find excerpts from the
private list.  Viewing the actual message requires logging in.

It seems to me that a better solution is to use a proxy cgi-bin
program for htsearch that first checks to see if the list is private
and if so do the same auth check that the htdig does (just error if
not authened) or actually ask for login info...  If the user is
authenticated or if it is a public list, then just exec the htsearch
cgi program.

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[Mailman-Users] newsletter / announce-only

2003-02-22 Thread Curt Siffert
I'm on 2.1 and I've followed all the recommended instructions on 
setting up a newsletter:
	1) all members with moderate bit
	2) all moderated members with polite reject
	3) all non-members with reject
	4) munged headers with explicit reply-to

Now I'm trying to figure out how to post but it doesn't look like 
there's an ideal solution.

1) unsetting the moderate bit for a user allows that user to mail to 
the list without intervention, which is great, BUT that user's email 
address appears in the Return-Path header in the message source.  This 
has me concerned about others forging that email address and being able 
to post to the list.  Is it possible to hide the approved senders' 
email addresses entirely?

2) I can put addresses in non-member sender filters for "Hold" but it 
would be nicer if they could also be subscribed (which are all 
hard-coded to reject).  I guess I want an option to say "Have all 
moderated members set to Reject, except for these addresses, set to 
Hold."

3) I can change everyone to "hold" but I'm worried about weighing down 
the moderator.

Any ideas?  It's so close to perfect.

Curt

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