Re: [Mailman-Users] Message IDs in /var/log/smtp and smtp-failure

2003-03-17 Thread Jon Carnes
On Mon, 2003-03-17 at 02:10, Thomas Guettler wrote:
 Hi!
 
 Since I am using debian stable, I don't want to update the mailman. I
 like to narrow down the problem.

You may still be able to find an upgrade patch that allows you to
upgrade 2.0.11 up to 2.0.13.  I'm pretty sure those Mailman patches
are specifically designed to be applied to the source.

 
 How can Message IDs be displayed in /var/log/smtp and smtp-failure?

Upgrade to version 2.1.1 :-)
 
 It would be nice if the following line would contain message ID and
 the To-Header:
  Mar 17 06:46:56 2003 (14243) smtp for 1 recips, completed in 10.025 seconds
  Mar 17 07:58:36 2003 (14243) smtp for 1 recips, completed in 4299.983 seconds
 
From version 2.1.1:

Jan 22 22:58:16 2003 (2804) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
smtp for 1 recips, completed in 1.133 seconds
Jan 22 22:58:17 2003 (2804) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
smtp for 2 recips, completed in 0.329 seconds

 Do I need to patch the python scripts?

Feel free to re-invent the wheel.  You might want to simply download the
working code (either from 2.0.13 or from 2.1.1) and steal the parts you
want/need in order to get your install working reliably

Of course, I don't see much of a difference between that and simply
upgrading :-)

Enjoy yourself!

Jon Carnes


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Why some messages aren't distributed?

2003-03-17 Thread Marina Markus

Hello,

Yes, the defaults are exactly as you write except for SMTP_MAX_RCPTS
set to 400.

I'm reluctant to try DELIVERY_MODULE = 'Sendmail' because of 
so many warnings of possible problems - is it worth trying 
anyway?

-Marina

On 16 Mar 2003, Jon Carnes wrote:

 What are your Delivery defaults set to in ~mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py
 (or Defaults.py)?
 
 ===
 #DELIVERY_MODULE = 'Sendmail'
 DELIVERY_MODULE = 'SMTPDirect'
 
 # MTA -- but then also see POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS.
 MTA = 'Manual'
 
 POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = []
 
 POSTFIX_ALIAS_CMD = '/usr/sbin/postalias'
 POSTFIX_MAP_CMD = '/usr/sbin/postmap'
 
 SMTP_MAX_RCPTS = 500
 
 SMTP_MAX_SESSIONS_PER_CONNECTION = 0
 
 MAX_DELIVERY_THREADS = 0
 
 SMTPHOST = 'localhost'
 SMTPPORT = 0  # default from smtplib
 
 ==
 
 Have you tried running with
   DELIVERY_MODULE = 'Sendmail'
 
 On Sun, 2003-03-16 at 10:50, Marina Markus wrote:
  
  Hello and thank you,
  
  But I checked both places and found nothing:
  
   Check to see if the messages have been shunted:
 ~mailman/qfiles/shunt/..
  
  I didn't find those specific undistributed messages 
  in this directory, although found some older ones. 
  May I ask what this shunt directory serves for?
  
 There are some archive messages from Barry that explain it. 
 
 I believe they are for messages that take too long for Mailman to
 process.  There might be a problem with their headers or with the
 system. In any case, rather than let the message clog up the queue,
 Mailman gives up on the message and shunts it.
 
 Check out the ~mailman/bin/unshunt command
   
   Also check on your MTA and see if it is using your fully qualified
   domain name or merely a subset of your domain name (like fred instead of
   fred.mynet.com).
   
  
  Yes, it uses a fully qualified domain name lists.bgu.ac.il.
  
  Can there be a situation when mailmanctl dies by itself
  and then starts anew by itself? This could be an explanation,
  although I can't see how this could happen.
  
  Regards,
  -Marina
 Something similar can happen.
 
 One of the features of version 2.1 is that it times it's processes as a
 last resort to figure out if a process is hung somehow.  As an example,
 the Archiver qrunner has a specified number of minutes to handle each
 message, if it exceeds that time limit then it is killed and restarted
 after all the other qrunners have been given another go.
 
 (at least that is how I read the code...)
  
 HtH - Jon Carnes
  
 BTW: are you running any Spam/virus scanning in conjunction with your
 Sendmail?
 
 


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[Mailman-Users] __init__.py line 51 Empty module name

2003-03-17 Thread Sumeet
I seem to be getting alot (about 700) of these all of the sudden w no
changes to my Rhat 8.0/MM2.1.1 and sendmail 8.11.6. Can someone please point
me in the right direction. thx, sumeet.

Mar 17 04:03:56 2003 (1735) Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /list/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 105, in _oneloop
self._onefile(msg, msgdata)
  File /list/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 155, in _onefile
keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata)
  File /list/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py, line 130, in _dispose
more = self._dopipeline(mlist, msg, msgdata, pipeline)
  File /list/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py, line 153, in _dopipeline
sys.modules[modname].process(mlist, msg, msgdata)
  File /list/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py, line 82, in process
send_digests(mlist, mboxfp)
  File /list/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py, line 123, in send_digests
send_i18n_digests(mlist, mboxfp)
  File /list/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py, line 295, in send_i18n_digests
msg = scrubber(mlist, msg)
  File /list/Mailman/Handlers/Scrubber.py, line 319, in process
t = t.encode(charset, 'replace')
  File
/usr/src/build/143041-i386/install/usr/lib/python2.2/encodings/__init__.py
, line 51, in search_function
ValueError: Empty module name

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[Mailman-Users] Upgrading from Mailman 2.0.6 to 2.1.1

2003-03-17 Thread Jerry Feldman
I am planning to upgrade the BLU site which is currently running 2.0.6
to 2.1.1. I was wondering if there are any problems I should expect. 
The first is that I need to upgrade Python also. We are running Red Hat
7.1 with a 2.4.18 kernel. In the case of both Python and Mailman I will
be upgrading from sources, not RPM. 

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Re: [Mailman-Users] About SMTPDirect

2003-03-17 Thread Elena Fraboschi
Thank you.  As I said, the MTA is listening lo 
localhost.  It is relaying perfectly fine a mailing list using
listserv, without a hitch.  Thanks for answering, though.  Best,
elena


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Re: [Mailman-Users] sitewide list

2003-03-17 Thread Roger H. Goun
I just had a weird problem with the site-wide mailman list: the
links to it on the listinfo and admin pages on my site don't work,
apparently because their case is wrong.

I updated from 2.0.x to 2.1 back in January, then later I applied the
xss patch, and today I've upgraded to 2.1.1. Back when I upgraded to
2.1, I neglected to create the site-wide list. Today I noticed the
Site list is missing log message and a quick Google search revealed
the solution.

After creating the mailman list with bin/newlist mailman, I went
to my Web server's .../mailman/listinfo page and clicked on the
Mailman link in the list of mailing lists at the bottom. I was
redirected to the same page.

A little investigation revealed that the page contained a link to
.../mailman/listinfo/mailman, which doesn't work, rather than to
.../mailman/listinfo/Mailman, which DOES work. The same thing happened
with the .../mailman/admin/mailman link on the .../mailman/admin page.
Restarting Apache and my browser didn't solve the problem. Changing
the public name (general/real_name) of the list from Mailman to
mailman didn't help, either.

Even more strangely, links like .../mailman/admin/mailman/privacy DO
work, as do the capitalized versions like
.../mailman/admin/Mailman/privacy.

Since then I've solved the problem by hiding the site-wide list
(privacy/subscribing/advertised set to 'No') as suggested in this
thread. If someone will tell me the solution I'll be happy to document
it for the FAQ.

Thanks,

Roger

Environment:

Fully updated Red Hat Linux 7.3 x86
apache-1.3.27-2
python2-2.2.2-11.7.3

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[Mailman-Users] Web mail archive only available to list administrator

2003-03-17 Thread Jan Banan
Hi,

Is it possible to make the web mail archive only available to list 
administrator? As what I can see I can only choose between having the mail 
archive public or private (for subscribers). 

One of my list administrator want to have a web mail archive only 
accessible to himself but not for the subscribers (he want them to imagine 
that what they write won't be archived :-) )

I'm using Mailman 2.1.1.

Best,
Jan


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[Mailman-Users] max. message length

2003-03-17 Thread Duke
Under the General Options for a list, there's a field Maximum length in
kilobytes (KB) of a message body. Use 0 for no limit.  What happens if
a message fails to meet this restriction?  Is it bounced?  I'd like to
have those messages sent to the Pending Moderator requests so I can
approve or reject the message.
Is this possible?

Thanks,

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RE: [Mailman-Users] max. message length

2003-03-17 Thread Neulinger, Nathan
They are held for moderation.


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 -Original Message-
 From: Duke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 11:22 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Mailman-Users] max. message length
 
 
 Under the General Options for a list, there's a field 
 Maximum length in
 kilobytes (KB) of a message body. Use 0 for no limit.  What 
 happens if
 a message fails to meet this restriction?  Is it bounced?  I'd like to
 have those messages sent to the Pending Moderator requests so I can
 approve or reject the message.
 Is this possible?
 
 Thanks,
 
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[Mailman-Users] html/text email

2003-03-17 Thread matthew reynolds
I seem to recall a setting on the admin screens that controlled whether
the list would send posts in html or text format. i see the setting for
digest users, but that's not what i'm referring to. 

i sure can't find it now, and beginning to think i imagined it...

thanks,

matthew reynolds
http://cadanoche.com

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[Mailman-Users] Re: html/text email

2003-03-17 Thread David Gibbs
matthew reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 I seem to recall a setting on the admin screens that controlled whether
 the list would send posts in html or text format. i see the setting for
 digest users, but that's not what i'm referring to.

What version?

If 2.1, then look at the content filtering page.

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[Mailman-Users] Re: html/text email

2003-03-17 Thread matthew reynolds
 
 matthew reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 
 news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  I seem to recall a setting on the admin screens that controlled 
  whether the list would send posts in html or text format. i see the 
  setting for digest users, but that's not what i'm referring to.
 
 What version?
 
 If 2.1, then look at the content filtering page.

 david

version 2.0.13.cisto1

hmm... not my server. i'm thinking that maybe there has been a downgrade
for some reason. 

matthew


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Re: [Mailman-Users] __init__.py line 51 Empty module name

2003-03-17 Thread Jan Kellermann
Hi!

I have the same error message. The senddigests dies with this message (see
(1)) and the Runner, too (see (2)).

in mm_cgf.py is
DEFAULT_SERVER_LANGUAGE = 'de'

The /shunt/-directory is growing hour by hour. can someone give a useful
hint?
I did install the cvs-version 1 hour ago and startet /bin/unshunt (yes, I
did restart the mailmanctl).
I tried it with python 2.1 also.


thank you
Jan Kellermann

(1) cron-report
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/local/mailman-2.1//cron/senddigests, line 94, in ?
main()
  File /usr/local/mailman-2.1//cron/senddigests, line 86, in main
mlist.send_digest_now()
  File /usr/local/mailman-2.1//Mailman/Digester.py, line 60, in
send_digest_now
ToDigest.send_digests(self, mboxfp)
  File /usr/local/mailman-2.1//Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py, line 123, in
send_digests
send_i18n_digests(mlist, mboxfp)
  File /usr/local/mailman-2.1//Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py, line 295, in
send_i18n_digests
msg = scrubber(mlist, msg)
  File /usr/local/mailman-2.1//Mailman/Handlers/Scrubber.py, line 308, in
process
t = t.encode(charset, 'replace')
  File /usr/lib/python2.1/encodings/__init__.py, line 47, in
search_function
mod = __import__(modname,globals(),locals(),'*')
ValueError: Empty module name


(2) /logs/error
Mar 17 19:13:30 2003 (21397) SHUNTING:
1047922040.310686+5bce2ca583617beff66de64be18ebe03154fb083
Mar 17 19:13:30 2003 (21397) Uncaught runner exception: Empty module name
Mar 17 19:13:30 2003 (21397) Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/local/mailman-2.1/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 105, in
_oneloop
self._onefile(msg, msgdata)
  File /usr/local/mailman-2.1/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 155, in
_onefile
keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata)
  File /usr/local/mailman-2.1/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py, line 130,
in _dispose
more = self._dopipeline(mlist, msg, msgdata, pipeline)
  File /usr/local/mailman-2.1/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py, line 153,
in _dopipeline
sys.modules[modname].process(mlist, msg, msgdata)
  File /usr/local/mailman-2.1/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py, line 82, in
process
send_digests(mlist, mboxfp)
  File /usr/local/mailman-2.1/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py, line 123, in
send_digests
send_i18n_digests(mlist, mboxfp)
  File /usr/local/mailman-2.1/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py, line 295, in
send_i18n_digests
msg = scrubber(mlist, msg)
  File /usr/local/mailman-2.1/Mailman/Handlers/Scrubber.py, line 308, in
process
t = t.encode(charset, 'replace')
  File /usr/lib/python2.2/encodings/__init__.py, line 51, in
search_function
mod = __import__(modname,globals(),locals(),'*')
ValueError: Empty module name

Mar 17 19:13:30 2003 (21397) SHUNTING:
1047922855.149357+40bc42a2e770c0b8213a4060a24a0e2673b5e8b7


- Original Message -
From: Sumeet [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 1:26 PM
Subject: [Mailman-Users] __init__.py line 51 Empty module name


 I seem to be getting alot (about 700) of these all of the sudden w no
 changes to my Rhat 8.0/MM2.1.1 and sendmail 8.11.6. Can someone please
point
 me in the right direction. thx, sumeet.

 Mar 17 04:03:56 2003 (1735) Traceback (most recent call last):
   File /list/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 105, in _oneloop
 self._onefile(msg, msgdata)
   File /list/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 155, in _onefile
 keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata)
   File /list/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py, line 130, in _dispose
 more = self._dopipeline(mlist, msg, msgdata, pipeline)
   File /list/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py, line 153, in _dopipeline
 sys.modules[modname].process(mlist, msg, msgdata)
   File /list/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py, line 82, in process
 send_digests(mlist, mboxfp)
   File /list/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py, line 123, in send_digests
 send_i18n_digests(mlist, mboxfp)
   File /list/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py, line 295, in
send_i18n_digests
 msg = scrubber(mlist, msg)
   File /list/Mailman/Handlers/Scrubber.py, line 319, in process
 t = t.encode(charset, 'replace')
   File

/usr/src/build/143041-i386/install/usr/lib/python2.2/encodings/__init__.py
 , line 51, in search_function
 ValueError: Empty module name

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[Mailman-Users]

2003-03-17 Thread Matt Minahan
Dear Mailfolks,

I'm using Mm 2.1.1 and I have two questions about trapping 
filtered messages.

The FAQ for Mm suggests putting content-type filters on the Privacy -- 
spam page; I would have thought that the Content Filtering page would have 
been a better place.  These are the filters suggested at the FAQ page:

content-type: .*octet
content-type: .*oda
content-type: .*audio
content-type: .*image
content-type: .*alternative
content-type: .*digest
content-type: .*mixed
content-type: .*related
content-type: .*rich
content-type: .*html
content-type: .*video
Q1: is one place better than the other and why so?

And, when messages trip the Content-filter trap, the sender receives a very 
cryptic: The message's content type was explicitly disallowed

When messages trip the Filters -- Spam trap, the sender receives a 
somewhat friendlier, but still unhelpful:

Your mail to 'Odnet-test2' with the subject

small again

Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval.

The reason it is being held:

Message has a suspicious header

Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive
notification of the moderator's decision.  If you would like to cancel
this posting, please visit the following URL:
Q2: are these messages editable?  And, if so, what are they called and 
where can I find them?

Thanks for your help.

_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/
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[Mailman-Users] website problems?

2003-03-17 Thread Jiann-Ming Su
Is mailman's website (www.list.org) down?  I cannot reach it from several
different domains.  Please reply to me directly since I'm not subscribed
to the mailing list.  Thanks.

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[Mailman-Users] Installing Mailman 2.1.1

2003-03-17 Thread Forrest Aldrich
The documentation (INSTALL) should be updated to insert the % bin/newlist 
mailman information prior to issuing the $ bin/mailmanctl start - to the 
new user, this throws you off because it errors on the non-existence of the 
mailman list.

In the mailman interface, it's not clear where to set moderation on or off 
for a given list - it might be easier to include options for moderation in 
one page, rather than in different areas.  Where is the option to select 
moderated or not?

Thanks...

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[Mailman-Users] Auto-discarded

2003-03-17 Thread Forrest Aldrich
I'm trying to figure out why I keep getting this error:

The attached message has been automatically discarded.

I'm sending some textual content to my local mailman-2.1.1 list; and now 
matter how I submit it, I keep getting it returned as The attached message 
has been automatically discarded.   And it can't possibly be the bounce 
detection (it's not bouncing) - but I did try turning that off, and still 
failure.

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[Mailman-Users] howto remove list contain space

2003-03-17 Thread syed
Hi,

How I want to remove a list that contain blank space.
I already create a list named open source and want remove it.
Using command ./rmlist -a open\ source seem not working.
I'm using mailman-2.0.12 (OpenBSD)

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[Mailman-Users] Auto-discarded(part 2)

2003-03-17 Thread Forrest Aldrich
I did some tests, and it seems that a subject line like:

Monster Resume #666 CC/CC - C/C++  Monster Job #565656565

Makes the current mailmain software auto-discard it.   I tried turning the 
bounce processing off, but it still continues.  Where can I disable or 
otherwise modify this behavior of Mailman.



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Re: [Mailman-Users]

2003-03-17 Thread Mike Noyes
On Mon, 2003-03-17 at 11:03, Matt Minahan wrote:
  I'm using Mm 2.1.1 and I have two questions about trapping 
 filtered messages.
 
 The FAQ for Mm suggests putting content-type filters on the Privacy -- 
 spam page; I would have thought that the Content Filtering page would have 
 been a better place.  These are the filters suggested at the FAQ page:

Matt,
That FAQ was written for 2.0.x versions of Mailman, and isn't applicable
to 2.1.x. I don't have access to 2.1.x yet, so I'm unable to update that
FAQ.

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[Mailman-Users] Mailman How-Tos Needed

2003-03-17 Thread Darren Hood
Hello.
 
I'm new to Mailman and finally got my lists to work, but need to know
how to perform certain tasks:
 
1.  Only certain people will be allowed to send messages to the
list. How can I edit the welcome message that is sent out to new
subscribers so that posting info is not included?


2.  In my first test message, an attached text file is included
containing info about the list.  How can I keep the attachment from
being sent?
 
Thanks.
 
DH
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Re: [Mailman-Users] howto remove list contain space

2003-03-17 Thread Tim Roberts
In *nix you can generally 

./rmlist -a open source

Tim




On Mon, 2003-03-17 at 04:05, syed wrote:
 Hi,
 
 How I want to remove a list that contain blank space.
 I already create a list named open source and want remove it.
 Using command ./rmlist -a open\ source seem not working.
 I'm using mailman-2.0.12 (OpenBSD)
 
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[Mailman-Users] Terse Phrase and Reply To

2003-03-17 Thread Warren Woodward
After our upgrade from 2.0 to 2.1.1, it seems several existing lists 
have had the terse phrase identifying this list turn into the default 
Reply To in the list headers (ala personalization, where the phrase is 
the 'name' of the list).  

I can't figure out how to disable this. We'd like the reply-to to simply 
be the list address without this feature.  Some lists do this, others do 
not, even though on initial observation the configurations seem to be the 
same.  What am I missing?

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[Mailman-Users] load error after install in FreeBSD 5.0

2003-03-17 Thread John Cessor
Folks
I just tried to install mailman on a FreeBSD 5.0 system and when
attempting to go to the admin page it returns the below error.
Any idea what I did wrong? The url for the machine is
http://www.azng.net/mailman/admin
JohnC

Bug in Mailman version 2.1.1

We're sorry, we hit a bug!
If you would like to help us identify the problem, please email a
copy of this page to the webmaster for this site with a
description of what happened. Thanks!

Traceback:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/local/mailman/scripts/driver, line 68, in run_main
immediate=1)
  File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Logging/StampedLogger.py,
line 52, in __init__
Logger.__init__(self, category, nofail, immediate)
  File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Logging/Logger.py, line 49,
in __init__
self.__get_f()
  File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Logging/Logger.py, line 67,
in __get_f
1)
  File /usr/local/lib/python2.2/codecs.py, line 496, in open
file = __builtin__.open(filename, mode, buffering)
IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied:
'/usr/local/mailman/logs/error'




-
---

Python information:
  Variable Value
  sys.version 2.2.2 (#1, Jan 3 2003, 07:54:31) [GCC 3.2.1
[FreeBSD] 20021119 (release)]
  sys.executable /usr/local/bin/python
  sys.prefix /usr/local
  sys.exec_prefix /usr/local
  sys.path /usr/local
  sys.platform freebsd5




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Environment variables:
  Variable Value
  PYTHONPATH  /usr/local/mailman
  SERVER_SOFTWARE  Apache/1.3.27 (Unix)
  SCRIPT_FILENAME  /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/admin
  SERVER_ADMIN  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  SCRIPT_NAME  /mailman/admin
  SERVER_SIGNATURE  Apache/1.3.27 Server at asa.azng.net Port
80
  REQUEST_METHOD  GET
  HTTP_HOST  www.azng.net
  SERVER_PROTOCOL  HTTP/1.1
  QUERY_STRING
  REQUEST_URI  /mailman/admin
  HTTP_ACCEPT  */*
  HTTP_USER_AGENT  Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows
NT 5.1)
  HTTP_CONNECTION  Keep-Alive
  SERVER_NAME  asa.azng.net
  REMOTE_ADDR  208.187.24.120
  REMOTE_PORT  3141
  HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE  en-us
  SERVER_ADDR  208.187.24.124
  SERVER_PORT  80
  GATEWAY_INTERFACE  CGI/1.1
  HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING  gzip, deflate
  UNIQUE_ID  PnYTAtC7GHwAAAHoA4A
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Setup an announce list

2003-03-17 Thread ghhalley
Jan,

I found the answer off of the Mailman FAQ search engine.  I am in the
process of implementing this solution.  Below is the link to the
question 3.11

http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?query=newsletter%2Fannouncement%2Fone-wayquerytype=simplecasefold=yesreq=search

Peace,
George


Hi all,

I'm trying to setup an announce list on which only a few people should be 
able to post, but I can't find a good way to do it. I see only a suitable 
option general - emergency, but I think that is not the one I should 
use... 

Can anybody point me right please?

   Best regards / Jan



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Re: [Mailman-Users] Unable to purge corrupt address

2003-03-17 Thread Chuq Von Rospach
This gave me an idea, since I had a list with a binary email address  
(how? add_members of a directory instead of a file in the directory.  
oops).

Here's what I did:
dumpdb config.db
	this gave me the \x00\x0c\x. version of the string.

I cut and pasted that into a quickie perl script:

#! /usr/bin/perl
print \x00\x0c\x...
	% foo  foo.out

I used that file with remove_members:

	% remove_members -f foo.out listname

and it removed the address for me just fine. By dumping the binary into  
a file and then using -f, it avoids running the binary through the  
shell, which is a Bad Thing, so remove_members works on it.



On Friday, March 14, 2003, at 06:01  AM, Dwight Ernest wrote:

Thanks, Jon. This worked (when I chose a character other than X  
which apparently had special meaning in the pickle!).

Jon Carnes wrote:
The easiest way I've found to do this is to stop Mailman from running
and then use a hex editor to edit the binary directly (change the out  
of
range value to an standard Ascii value).  Note, that Mailman stores  
the
email names in several places within the database.
It would be great if someone would write a small script to parse  
through
the database and check all the email names... sigh, yet another thing  
on
my list.
Hope that is helpful,
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Re: [Mailman-Users] __init__.py line 51 Empty module name

2003-03-17 Thread Barry A. Warsaw

 S == Sumeet  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

S I seem to be getting alot (about 700) of these all of the
S sudden w no changes to my Rhat 8.0/MM2.1.1 and sendmail
S 8.11.6. Can someone please point me in the right
S direction. thx, sumeet.

S /usr/src/build/143041-i386/install/usr/lib/python2.2/encodings/__init__.py
S , line 51, in search_function ValueError: Empty module name

What version of Python are you using and did you install it from
source or from RPM (e.g. it came with RH 8.0 when you installed the
system)?

If the latter, then the most likely cause is that RH's done it again,
by splitting the standard Python distro and not including the standard
encodings package with the basic Python RPM.

You choices are to install all the other Python related RPMs or build
Python 2.2.2 from source.  It would be nice to know what RPM ends up
fixing this and what Python packages it adds so that I can add the
appropriate assertions to Mailman's installation scripts.

-Barry

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[Mailman-Users] List posting problems

2003-03-17 Thread Tim Roberts
Hi,

I managed to install Mailman using the INSTALL for guidance. I can sign
users up, confirm them and delete them and manage lists fine.

However, I have posted to my first test list using several accounts
and all the posts come back to me undeliverable, below is a transcript
of returned mail.

I use exim on Debian for an MTA if that helps...

TIA

Tim 


The original message was received at Mon, 17 Mar 2003 22:20:29 GMT
from [EMAIL PROTECTED] [217.126.24.216]

   - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(reason: 550 Unknown local part test in [EMAIL PROTECTED])

   - Transcript of session follows -
... while talking to mail.happygecko.com.:
 RCPT To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 550 Unknown local part test in [EMAIL PROTECTED]
550 5.1.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... User unknown


Reporting-MTA: dns; cobalt090.fm.netbenefit.co.uk
Received-From-MTA: DNS; 217-126-24-216.uc.nombres.ttd.es
Arrival-Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 22:20:29 GMT

Final-Recipient: RFC822; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Action: failed
Status: 5.1.1
Remote-MTA: DNS; mail.happygecko.com
Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 550 Unknown local part test in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Last-Attempt-Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 22:20:30 GMT

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Web mail archive only available to listadministrator

2003-03-17 Thread Jeremy Portzer
On Mon, 2003-03-17 at 12:14, Jan Banan wrote:
 Is it possible to make the web mail archive only available to list 
 administrator? As what I can see I can only choose between having the mail 
 archive public or private (for subscribers). 
 
 One of my list administrator want to have a web mail archive only 
 accessible to himself but not for the subscribers (he want them to imagine 
 that what they write won't be archived :-) )
 
 I'm using Mailman 2.1.1.
 

I don't think that mailman can do this directly.

However, you could set up a separate list, say listname-archive that
exists solely to provide the archive.  Subscribe this one user to
listname-archive, with the nomail option set.  Then subscribe
listname-archive to listname to get posts sent there.  You may have
to tweak listname's config the Alias names which qualify as explicit to
or cc destination names config item.

This way, the one list administrator can see the archive in the
listname-archive version of the list, but everyone else thinks the
archive doesn't exist.  Of course make sure the listname-archive list is
hidden from view on the listinfo page, and you might name it something
more cryptic if you're really trying to be sneaky.

Obviously there are other possibilities involving external archiving
tools, but the above would let you do this with mailman only.

--Jeremy

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Re: [Mailman-Users] __init__.py line 51 Empty module name

2003-03-17 Thread Sumeet
RedHat 8.0 stock python:
Name: python   Relocations: (not relocateable)
Version : 2.2.1 Vendor: Red Hat, Inc.
Release : 17Build Date: Fri 30 Aug 2002
09:23:44 AM PDT

I also have and need python-devel 2.2.1 I tried to upgrade just python-devel
to 2.2.2 and mailman stopped sending messages for the duration that it was
the old version. I'll bite and upgrade to the newest available python and
see what is going on.
- Original Message -
From: Barry A. Warsaw [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Sumeet [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 1:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] __init__.py line 51 Empty module name



  S == Sumeet  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 S I seem to be getting alot (about 700) of these all of the
 S sudden w no changes to my Rhat 8.0/MM2.1.1 and sendmail
 S 8.11.6. Can someone please point me in the right
 S direction. thx, sumeet.

 S
/usr/src/build/143041-i386/install/usr/lib/python2.2/encodings/__init__.py
 S , line 51, in search_function ValueError: Empty module name

 What version of Python are you using and did you install it from
 source or from RPM (e.g. it came with RH 8.0 when you installed the
 system)?

 If the latter, then the most likely cause is that RH's done it again,
 by splitting the standard Python distro and not including the standard
 encodings package with the basic Python RPM.

 You choices are to install all the other Python related RPMs or build
 Python 2.2.2 from source.  It would be nice to know what RPM ends up
 fixing this and what Python packages it adds so that I can add the
 appropriate assertions to Mailman's installation scripts.

 -Barry


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[Mailman-Users] sending restriction/moderation question v. 2.1.1

2003-03-17 Thread Christopher Adams
I just upgraded to version 2.1.1. I may be missing something, but I have
looked throughout the admin configuration to see where I specify who is
approved to send to the list. In the previous version that I was using, it
was a box under Privacy Options. Now, the closest thing I can find is under
Privacy Options/Sender Rules. It looks like everyone would have to be set to
moderated, then those approved would be set as 'not moderated'. The list I
am referring to is not a true moderated list, but I can't figure out any
other way to limit sending to specific addresses.


Christopher Adams


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[Mailman-Users] incorrect padding from senddigests

2003-03-17 Thread Dwight Ernest
I just got the first appearance of this error under MM 2.1.1:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /var/mailman/cron/senddigests, line 94, in ?
main()
  File /var/mailman/cron/senddigests, line 86, in main
mlist.send_digest_now()
  File /var/mailman/Mailman/Digester.py, line 60, in send_digest_now
ToDigest.send_digests(self, mboxfp)
  File /var/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py, line 123, in 
send_digests
send_i18n_digests(mlist, mboxfp)
  File /var/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py, line 303, in 
send_i18n_digests
print  plainmsg, msg.get_payload(decode=1)
  File /var/mailman/pythonlib/email/Message.py, line 189, in get_payload
return Utils._bdecode(payload)
  File /var/mailman/pythonlib/email/Utils.py, line 75, in _bdecode
value = base64.decodestring(s)
  File /usr/local/lib/python2.2/base64.py, line 44, in decodestring
return binascii.a2b_base64(s)
binascii.Error: Incorrect padding

Can anyone help me to debug it? My knowledge of Python is limited; I 
wonder if anyone else has encountered this?

Thanks.



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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman How-Tos Needed

2003-03-17 Thread Jon Carnes
On Sun, 2003-03-16 at 21:49, Darren Hood wrote:
 Hello.
  
 I'm new to Mailman and finally got my lists to work, but need to know
 how to perform certain tasks:
  
 1.Only certain people will be allowed to send messages to the
 list. How can I edit the welcome message that is sent out to new
 subscribers so that posting info is not included?

This is detailed in the archives, but basically you copy the file
~mailman/templates/en/subscribeack.txt over to
~mailman/lists/listname/en/subscribeack.txt

Then edit that file. This new file will be used for your list.

 
 2.In my first test message, an attached text file is included
 containing info about the list.  How can I keep the attachment from
 being sent?

Get rid of the footer.

  
 Thanks.
  
 DH

HtH - Jon Carnes


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Re: [Mailman-Users] load error after install in FreeBSD 5.0

2003-03-17 Thread Jon Carnes
You have some permission problems. You might need to run the
~mailman/bin/check_perms and read the README.BSD that comes with the
installation.

Jon Carnes

On Mon, 2003-03-17 at 14:54, John Cessor wrote:
 Folks
 I just tried to install mailman on a FreeBSD 5.0 system and when
 attempting to go to the admin page it returns the below error.
 Any idea what I did wrong? The url for the machine is
 http://www.azng.net/mailman/admin
 JohnC
 
 Bug in Mailman version 2.1.1
 
 We're sorry, we hit a bug!
 If you would like to help us identify the problem, please email a
 copy of this page to the webmaster for this site with a
 description of what happened. Thanks!
 
 Traceback:
 
 Traceback (most recent call last):
   File /usr/local/mailman/scripts/driver, line 68, in run_main
 immediate=1)
   File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Logging/StampedLogger.py,
 line 52, in __init__
 Logger.__init__(self, category, nofail, immediate)
   File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Logging/Logger.py, line 49,
 in __init__
 self.__get_f()
   File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Logging/Logger.py, line 67,
 in __get_f
 1)
   File /usr/local/lib/python2.2/codecs.py, line 496, in open
 file = __builtin__.open(filename, mode, buffering)
 IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied:
 '/usr/local/mailman/logs/error'
 
 
 
 
 -
 ---
 
 Python information:
   Variable Value
   sys.version 2.2.2 (#1, Jan 3 2003, 07:54:31) [GCC 3.2.1
 [FreeBSD] 20021119 (release)]
   sys.executable /usr/local/bin/python
   sys.prefix /usr/local
   sys.exec_prefix /usr/local
   sys.path /usr/local
   sys.platform freebsd5
 
 
 
 
 -
 ---
 
 Environment variables:
   Variable Value
   PYTHONPATH  /usr/local/mailman
   SERVER_SOFTWARE  Apache/1.3.27 (Unix)
   SCRIPT_FILENAME  /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/admin
   SERVER_ADMIN  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   SCRIPT_NAME  /mailman/admin
   SERVER_SIGNATURE  Apache/1.3.27 Server at asa.azng.net Port
 80
   REQUEST_METHOD  GET
   HTTP_HOST  www.azng.net
   SERVER_PROTOCOL  HTTP/1.1
   QUERY_STRING
   REQUEST_URI  /mailman/admin
   HTTP_ACCEPT  */*
   HTTP_USER_AGENT  Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows
 NT 5.1)
   HTTP_CONNECTION  Keep-Alive
   SERVER_NAME  asa.azng.net
   REMOTE_ADDR  208.187.24.120
   REMOTE_PORT  3141
   HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE  en-us
   SERVER_ADDR  208.187.24.124
   SERVER_PORT  80
   GATEWAY_INTERFACE  CGI/1.1
   HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING  gzip, deflate
   UNIQUE_ID  PnYTAtC7GHwAAAHoA4A
   DOCUMENT_ROOT  /usr/local/www/data
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] load error after install in FreeBSD 5.0

2003-03-17 Thread John Cessor
I did run the check_perms but I will back up a few steps and try
this all again.
Thanks
JohnC

- Original Message -
From: Jon Carnes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: John Cessor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Mailman users Mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 5:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] load error after install in FreeBSD
5.0


 You have some permission problems. You might need to run the
 ~mailman/bin/check_perms and read the README.BSD that comes
with the
 installation.

 Jon Carnes

 On Mon, 2003-03-17 at 14:54, John Cessor wrote:
  Folks
  I just tried to install mailman on a FreeBSD 5.0 system and
when
  attempting to go to the admin page it returns the below
error.
  Any idea what I did wrong? The url for the machine is
  http://www.azng.net/mailman/admin
  JohnC
 
  Bug in Mailman version 2.1.1
 
  We're sorry, we hit a bug!
  If you would like to help us identify the problem, please
email a
  copy of this page to the webmaster for this site with a
  description of what happened. Thanks!
 
  Traceback:
 
  Traceback (most recent call last):
File /usr/local/mailman/scripts/driver, line 68, in
run_main
  immediate=1)
File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Logging/StampedLogger.py,
  line 52, in __init__
  Logger.__init__(self, category, nofail, immediate)
File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Logging/Logger.py, line
49,
  in __init__
  self.__get_f()
File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Logging/Logger.py, line
67,
  in __get_f
  1)
File /usr/local/lib/python2.2/codecs.py, line 496, in
open
  file = __builtin__.open(filename, mode, buffering)
  IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied:
  '/usr/local/mailman/logs/error'
 
 
 
 

 ---
--
  ---
 
  Python information:
Variable Value
sys.version 2.2.2 (#1, Jan 3 2003, 07:54:31) [GCC 3.2.1
  [FreeBSD] 20021119 (release)]
sys.executable /usr/local/bin/python
sys.prefix /usr/local
sys.exec_prefix /usr/local
sys.path /usr/local
sys.platform freebsd5
 
 
 
 

 ---
--
  ---
 
  Environment variables:
Variable Value
PYTHONPATH  /usr/local/mailman
SERVER_SOFTWARE  Apache/1.3.27 (Unix)
SCRIPT_FILENAME  /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/admin
SERVER_ADMIN  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SCRIPT_NAME  /mailman/admin
SERVER_SIGNATURE  Apache/1.3.27 Server at asa.azng.net
Port
  80
REQUEST_METHOD  GET
HTTP_HOST  www.azng.net
SERVER_PROTOCOL  HTTP/1.1
QUERY_STRING
REQUEST_URI  /mailman/admin
HTTP_ACCEPT  */*
HTTP_USER_AGENT  Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0;
Windows
  NT 5.1)
HTTP_CONNECTION  Keep-Alive
SERVER_NAME  asa.azng.net
REMOTE_ADDR  208.187.24.120
REMOTE_PORT  3141
HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE  en-us
SERVER_ADDR  208.187.24.124
SERVER_PORT  80
GATEWAY_INTERFACE  CGI/1.1
HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING  gzip, deflate
UNIQUE_ID  PnYTAtC7GHwAAAHoA4A
DOCUMENT_ROOT  /usr/local/www/data
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] List posting problems

2003-03-17 Thread Jon Carnes
It's been a long time since I did an Exim install but I think you need
to add the aliases for Mailman.  When you run ~mailman/bin/newlist
listname it prints out the aliases that you need to add.

On Mon, 2003-03-17 at 18:07, Tim Roberts wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I managed to install Mailman using the INSTALL for guidance. I can sign
 users up, confirm them and delete them and manage lists fine.
 
 However, I have posted to my first test list using several accounts
 and all the posts come back to me undeliverable, below is a transcript
 of returned mail.
 
 I use exim on Debian for an MTA if that helps...
 
 TIA
 
 Tim 
 
 
 The original message was received at Mon, 17 Mar 2003 22:20:29 GMT
 from [EMAIL PROTECTED] [217.126.24.216]
 
- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (reason: 550 Unknown local part test in [EMAIL PROTECTED])
 
- Transcript of session follows -
 ... while talking to mail.happygecko.com.:
  RCPT To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  550 Unknown local part test in [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 550 5.1.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... User unknown
 
 
 Reporting-MTA: dns; cobalt090.fm.netbenefit.co.uk
 Received-From-MTA: DNS; 217-126-24-216.uc.nombres.ttd.es
 Arrival-Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 22:20:29 GMT
 
 Final-Recipient: RFC822; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Action: failed
 Status: 5.1.1
 Remote-MTA: DNS; mail.happygecko.com
 Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 550 Unknown local part test in
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[Mailman-Users] Header added to mail sent to regular list members

2003-03-17 Thread Julian Brown
Hi

There are a bunch of options that that you can put into this header, such as
real_name and list_name and others.

I noticed that the email address is not listed.

Esteemed GDG member Contributes: email_address

Is what we would like to put there.  Is there an undocumented feature that
would allow us to do this?

Thanx

Julian Brown
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Re: [Mailman-Users] incorrect padding from senddigests

2003-03-17 Thread Barry A. Warsaw

 DE == Dwight Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

DE binascii.Error: Incorrect padding

I believe this is fixed in cvs and will be part of Mailman 2.1.2.  No
definite ETA on that yet though.

-Barry

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Setup an announce list

2003-03-17 Thread Brian Read
Look here:

http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?query=announcequerytype=simplecasefold=yesreq=search

cheers

Brian

At 17:05 17/03/2003, Jan Banan wrote:
Hi all,

I'm trying to setup an announce list on which only a few people should be
able to post, but I can't find a good way to do it. I see only a suitable
option general - emergency, but I think that is not the one I should
use...
Can anybody point me right please?

   Best regards / Jan

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[Mailman-Users] Deleting Messages from Queue

2003-03-17 Thread Thomas Guettler
Hi!

There is a email in my queue which has a not existing mailserver in
the recipient address. I deleted the user from the list, but there are
still some mails in the queue. There is a message every ten seconds in
smtp-failures, that the mail can't be sent.

How can I delete this message from the queue, or even better, how can
I delete only this recipient, without deleting the whole message?

I use mailman 2.0.11

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[Mailman-Users] delete list that have space

2003-03-17 Thread mr_zali
Hi,

I create a list named free software.
But how i want to delete the list. Using 'rmlist' command still
no effect. I'm using Mailman-2.0.12.


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