RE: [Mailman-Users] HTDIG patches! Arghh!
I do have to say thank you for writing and maintaining the patches as I am trying to figure out how to integrate Mailman with HTdig as we speak. The problem I have run into is that I can't find documentation on how install the patch with the RPM version of mailman. I have searched thru the archives on gmane.org and google groups to figure out how to use them with the RPM and unfortunately can't find an answer. Can someone point me to a URL for this? Also, another topic, but when one BCC's the list why don't the footers appear on the bottom of the email? I am against BCCing a list, but someone did and it appeared as if the footer was not there. Is this a known issue or is something in my config wrong? Regards, Adam -Original Message- From: Gour [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 7:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] HTDIG patches! Arghh! Mark Dadgar ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I've said it before (recently) and I'll say it again - these patches should be integrated into the main Mailman tree. They are That Good. I'm also wondering why these patches are not integrated into the main tree. Mailman without search capabilites loses much of its functionality, especially since thereis no easy mechanism for integrating and automating it with something else, like htdig patches. Pls. Richard, try to continue. Sincerely, Gour -- Gour [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #278493 -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/adaml%40jbase.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] HTDIG patches! Arghh!
Richard Barrett at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All users please note that MM 2.1.3 is the last version of MM for which I shall be publishing revisions of the #444884 patch. I will make one last effort to publish a generic version of the htdig integration patch which provides a framework for integrating other search engiones. Then I give up. Life is too short to continue pushing this particular rope uphill. Mark Dadgar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ai! No! Say it isn't so! These patches are critical for me. Sigh. They're important for me too... if no-one else wants to pick up the ball, I'll take over maintenace of these patches. Greetings, Norbert. -- Founder Steering Committee member of http://gnu.org/projects/dotgnu/ Free Software Business Strategy Guide --- http://FreeStrategy.info Norbert Bollow, Weidlistr.18, CH-8624 Gruet (near Zurich, Switzerland) Tel +41 1 972 20 59Fax +41 1 972 20 69 http://norbert.ch -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] -request address not working
This is a basic question, I apologize, but the searchable archives don't seem to be working and I've spent quite some time doing google searches and looking through the archives. I really would appreciate some help, or a pointer in the right direction. I have recently installed mailman and am having problems with the -request address. I am using Postfix and have the following aliases entered: listname: |/var/lib/mailman/mail/wrapper post listname listname-admin: |/var/lib/mailman/mail/wrapper mailowner listname listname-request: |/var/lib/mailman/mail/wrapper mailcmd listname listname-owner: listname-admin I have also changed the main.cf config file in Postfix to allow mail_to_commands and mail_to_files I have reloaded Postfix and sent a newaliases command. When messages to go the listname-request address, the mail is sent to the list owner and the requestor receives nothing. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Mass Removal Options
I am sorry if this has already been answered - the searchable archive is down. Is there anyway to: 1) download my current member list to a text file or something similar? or 2) perform a mass removal based on wildcards? Basically, what I am trying to do is removal all members from my list in one or two actions. I do not own the box that mailman is on, so I am merely a list/site admin. Thanks- Steve -- __ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] re: cron
I'm a newbie, so please don't flame me. Two queries: 1. What should my crontab look like? What jobs should it be running and how often? 2. My lists are (nominally) working, but when I send a message out, it gets stopped to wait for moderator approval. But, when I go into the administrative interface and click on tend to moderator tasks, there's no messages waiting for approval. How do I resolve this? Please respond directly. Thanks. Bill -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Firewall/Posting Issue on RH7 and Exim
Hello all, I want to add posts from inside my firewall, no posts will be coming from outside the firewall. How would I make a posting to the list internally? Would it be the same procedure as if the address was from outside the firewall (setup account, subscribe/send posts to it)? Is there a web interface to add posts to the lists? Thanks in advance for any help you can give, Mike -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Replacing attachments by URL
Hi, Is there a way when subscribers sends an attachement, to remove the attachement from the mail itself and replace it with a URL. I would like to place all attachement on my Web server and let text only on my Mailman server. Thanks in advance, Francois -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Mailman-Users] search list of subscribers?
Ted, There is a script at least in my /var/mailman/bin called find_user just type in the domain and it will list all the users and what groups they are in. IE ./find_user domain.com will work like a charm. Adam -Original Message- From: Ted Ernst [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2003 5:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Mailman-Users] search list of subscribers? I am a list administrator, but don't really know much about how mailman works. I can find a particular user if I know his/her email address by looking in the alphabetical list of subscribers, but how do I search for everyone from a particular domain, for example? peace, ted ___ Humanize the Earth! http://www.chicagohumanist.org http://www.tedernst.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/adaml%40jbase.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] HTDIG patches! Arghh!
On Monday, Jun 2, 2003, at 19:57 US/Eastern, Mark Dadgar wrote: Richard Barrett at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am kicking. I have been publishing and maintaining patches to integrate htdig search with MM since MM 2.0.6 and none of the MM support lists use the facility. When I asked thru this list how many people used the patches I got 3 replies; so obviously not many sites need searchable Mailman archives. All users please note that MM 2.1.3 is the last version of MM for which I shall be publishing revisions of the #444884 patch. I will make one last effort to publish a generic version of the htdig integration patch which provides a framework for integrating other search engiones. Then I give up. Life is too short to continue pushing this particular rope uphill. Ai! No! Say it isn't so! These patches are critical for me. Sigh. They are for me too; while we don't have a lot of lists, one of the major points that was brought up by the users here is that the software has to have searchable archives, and these patches were one of the reasons I chose Mailman over any other package (very little work to get a full install with the htdig interaction running). Had I seen a mail asking about how many people use the patches I would've certainly raised a hand. I've said it before (recently) and I'll say it again - these patches should be integrated into the main Mailman tree. They are That Good. I'll second (or by now third or fourth) this motion as well. I'm not sure of the reason why they're not included, but considering your excellent work in keeping up with the patches I haven't seen it as a problem. If you're moving away from them, this will be a problem (unless I don't find any need to upgrade the system until someone else picks up the torch). Thank you, Richard, for maintaining them as long as you have. Definitely. Now, is there any way we can talk you into continuing? :) ...if you can keep your sanity in the process. I know what it's like when you just want to get away from something you wrote before (google for megahal eggdrop... I still can't escape that one, and haven't even been on IRC in over 4 years :P) I can understand if you want to walk away from the patches because you're just tired of maintaining them, just know that there are a lot of people who love them and use them, so don't throw in the towel because you think they're not appreciated. -- Steve Huston - Unix Systems Admin, Dept. of Astrophysical Sciences Princeton University | ICBM Address: 40.346525 -74.651285 126 Peyton Hall |On my ship, the Rocinante, wheeling through Princeton, NJ 08544 | the galaxies; headed for the heart of Cygnus, (609) 258-7375 | headlong into mystery. -Rush, 'Cygnus X-1' -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] [Fwd: Mailman error - why ?!?]
Sending again ... -Forwarded Message- From: Alessandro Luiz Petrocino [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Mailman error - why ?!? Date: 02 Jun 2003 11:47:01 -0300 Can anyone tell me what this means ?!? [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# Traceback (most recent call last): File /www/ns-home/mailman/bin/qrunner, line 270, in ? main() File /www/ns-home/mailman/bin/qrunner, line 230, in main qrunner.run() File /www/ns-home/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 59, in run filecnt = self._oneloop() File /www/ns-home/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 88, in _oneloop msg, msgdata = self._switchboard.dequeue(filebase) File /www/ns-home/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Switchboard.py, line 160, in dequeue os.unlink(pckfile) OSError: [Errno 16] Device or resource busy: '/www/ns-home/mailman/qfiles/virgin/1054564372.998621+5869243c5ed943e649c73f66108af41c97c96959.pck' -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] [Fwd: Mailman problem - All lists post to MAILMANadministrative]
Sending again ... can anyone help me, please ?!? Hello, fellows ! First of all, sorry for my terrible english. I'm a brazilian system analist, of State University of Campinas (UNICAMP) Well, let's rock ! :-) I have Mailman v. 2.1.2 + Postfix installed in a server. Well ... when someone post to a list, don't no why the same message is posted to the MAILMAN list (the administrative one, needed to install the Mailman software) Those users are not subscrived in this list, of couse! And they receive administrative messages too. Anyone can solve this ?!? Tks a lot ! -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] search list of subscribers?
Use the find member command. ~mailman/bin/find_member somedomain Dave Petro -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Datestamp in archives?
Hello, Does anybody know how to add a date in the subject of the archives? I found no option and no patches to do that so I'm now looking for the particular piece of code that creates the subject list. Any pointers will be appreciated. -- René Berber P.S. I'm also a happy user of the htDig patch, good work Richard Barrett! -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Wishlist and maybe problem solution
Hi! Mailman is great, mailman is good, all hail mailman :) I have to administer a mailing list for which a special requirement was requested: It will be a moderated list where only special people might be able to send mails through. All these mails should have the same From: header, so I thought using the »anonymous_list« might be a good idea -- but I don't see any chance to specify what mailman will put in there. It simply always puts [EMAIL PROTECTED] in there, which is someone we would like to change. Is there a posibility to make this configureable in future versions? I guess this could be quite helpful for others, too. Along the same lines, might it be possible to have an option to rewrite the To: header, too? It should become a more or less hidden setup here, so that could be of help. There is one thing that I like to question: The envelope-sender is set to the -bounce address. From my understanding it must be sufficient to set the Return-Path header to the -bounce address for it to work correctly. The reason why I question this is that there are some mail servers/clients (especially lotus notes) that display something like this: |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or something along these lines, I was just told about the german string that is in between). This doesn't look quite nice and is afaik not needed, for the only header used for bounce messages must be return-path anyway. If these things aren't that easy to change (I would be pleased if someone can send me a patch over, for I'm not that well in python (or rather baaad)), can someone tell me if there is a way to tweak sendmail to change this? I guess I shouldn't be the first to be faced with this problem, so some might already have found a solution for this in sendmail on their own. Otherwise I'd have to use a private mailing-skript in the meantime that allows me to set the headers on my own, and set just the return-path to the -bounce address to get into the benefit of the bounce control mailman does. It's just these special requirements in this case... Btw., I do love mailman, did I mention that already? alfie -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Mailman-Users] HTDIG patches! Arghh!
At 14:52 03/06/2003, Adam Lipson wrote: I do have to say thank you for writing and maintaining the patches as I am trying to figure out how to integrate Mailman with HTdig as we speak. The problem I have run into is that I can't find documentation on how install the patch with the RPM version of mailman. I have searched thru the archives on gmane.org and google groups to figure out how to use them with the RPM and unfortunately can't find an answer. Can someone point me to a URL for this? Assuming MM 2.1.2 in what follows. It is nearly but not quite possible to construct a version of the #444884 Mailman-htdig patch which can be applied to Mailman after it has been installed rather than applying the patch to the MM build directory before configuring and installing MM. There are some minor bits of untidyness which would require hand fettling (path to python in the #! line of some added scripts, a directory to create and such) but nothing too difficult. However, there is one difficulty which I cannot see a simple way around; the Mailman-htdig patch installs two additional cgi scripts, htdig.py and mmsearch.py, and I cannot see any simple way of generating the compiled C wrappers for these cgi scripts unless this is done when building MM from source. While I am generally quite happy to use RPMs I find that installing MM from source is so easy that I always do that for preference. I certainly will not stick solely to RPMs if that gets in the way of achieving the objective. Can I tempt you to trying this approach? Also, another topic, but when one BCC's the list why don't the footers appear on the bottom of the email? I am against BCCing a list, but someone did and it appeared as if the footer was not there. Is this a known issue or is something in my config wrong? I cannot reproduce this problem. If I Bcc one of my test lists and then approve the post (because the test list is not in the To or Cc header) the posting is distributed normally. Regards, Adam -- Richard Barrett http://www.openinfo.co.uk -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Mailman-Users] HTDIG patches! Arghh!
Thanks for the reply. I tried to install from the source and somehow just kept on screwing up the install so the RPM worked and I used it. Redoing it now would be a real pain. I can definitely appreciate that installing from source is the best way to install it just was not working for me. If you have a great suggestion as to how to reinstall this easily I am all ears, but I guess otherwise will wait for the next rpm to upgrade and suffer thru that upgrade process. as per the bcc I guess it is just a quirk of my install. I had to approve the post, but then the footers did not appear. Oh well, there are worse things in life. Adam -Original Message- From: Richard Barrett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 11:29 AM To: Adam Lipson Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] HTDIG patches! Arghh! At 14:52 03/06/2003, Adam Lipson wrote: I do have to say thank you for writing and maintaining the patches as I am trying to figure out how to integrate Mailman with HTdig as we speak. The problem I have run into is that I can't find documentation on how install the patch with the RPM version of mailman. I have searched thru the archives on gmane.org and google groups to figure out how to use them with the RPM and unfortunately can't find an answer. Can someone point me to a URL for this? Assuming MM 2.1.2 in what follows. It is nearly but not quite possible to construct a version of the #444884 Mailman-htdig patch which can be applied to Mailman after it has been installed rather than applying the patch to the MM build directory before configuring and installing MM. There are some minor bits of untidyness which would require hand fettling (path to python in the #! line of some added scripts, a directory to create and such) but nothing too difficult. However, there is one difficulty which I cannot see a simple way around; the Mailman-htdig patch installs two additional cgi scripts, htdig.py and mmsearch.py, and I cannot see any simple way of generating the compiled C wrappers for these cgi scripts unless this is done when building MM from source. While I am generally quite happy to use RPMs I find that installing MM from source is so easy that I always do that for preference. I certainly will not stick solely to RPMs if that gets in the way of achieving the objective. Can I tempt you to trying this approach? Also, another topic, but when one BCC's the list why don't the footers appear on the bottom of the email? I am against BCCing a list, but someone did and it appeared as if the footer was not there. Is this a known issue or is something in my config wrong? I cannot reproduce this problem. If I Bcc one of my test lists and then approve the post (because the test list is not in the To or Cc header) the posting is distributed normally. Regards, Adam -- Richard Barrett http://www.openinfo.co.uk -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Mailman-Users] HTDIG patches! Arghh!
On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 14:52, Adam Lipson wrote: I am trying to figure out how to integrate Mailman with HTdig as we speak. The problem I have run into is that I can't find documentation on how install the patch with the RPM version of mailman. I have searched thru the archives on gmane.org and google groups to figure out how to use them with the RPM and unfortunately can't find an answer. Can someone point me to a URL for this? Get the source rpm for mailman, install that, edit the spec file - add the patch to the header section and patch it in in the %prep section. Modify the release number or maybe the name (if you don't want any autoupdater to wreck things for you). Rebuild the rpm. Be aware that there are problems with the mailman rpm build process which increase the risks of it trashing things on an upgrade. If you have a non-rpm install do not move to an rpm install unless you *really* know what you are doing and check all the paths and uids. Nigel. -- [ Nigel Metheringham [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ - Comments in this message are my own and not ITO opinion/policy - ] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] HTDIG patches reprieved (was HTDIGpatches! Arghh!)
At 15:41 03/06/2003, Steve Huston wrote: On Monday, Jun 2, 2003, at 19:57 US/Eastern, Mark Dadgar wrote: Richard Barrett at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am kicking. I have been publishing and maintaining patches to integrate htdig search with MM since MM 2.0.6 and none of the MM support lists use the facility. When I asked thru this list how many people used the patches I got 3 replies; so obviously not many sites need searchable Mailman archives. All users please note that MM 2.1.3 is the last version of MM for which I shall be publishing revisions of the #444884 patch. I will make one last effort to publish a generic version of the htdig integration patch which provides a framework for integrating other search engiones. Then I give up. Life is too short to continue pushing this particular rope uphill. Ai! No! Say it isn't so! These patches are critical for me. Sigh. They are for me too; while we don't have a lot of lists, one of the major points that was brought up by the users here is that the software has to have searchable archives, and these patches were one of the reasons I chose Mailman over any other package (very little work to get a full install with the htdig interaction running). Had I seen a mail asking about how many people use the patches I would've certainly raised a hand. I've said it before (recently) and I'll say it again - these patches should be integrated into the main Mailman tree. They are That Good. I'll second (or by now third or fourth) this motion as well. I'm not sure of the reason why they're not included, but considering your excellent work in keeping up with the patches I haven't seen it as a problem. If you're moving away from them, this will be a problem (unless I don't find any need to upgrade the system until someone else picks up the torch). Thank you, Richard, for maintaining them as long as you have. Definitely. Now, is there any way we can talk you into continuing? :) ...if you can keep your sanity in the process. I know what it's like when you just want to get away from something you wrote before (google for megahal eggdrop... I still can't escape that one, and haven't even been on IRC in over 4 years :P) I can understand if you want to walk away from the patches because you're just tired of maintaining them, just know that there are a lot of people who love them and use them, so don't throw in the towel because you think they're not appreciated. Thanks for the kind words guys. I've recovered from the fit of intense irritation that led to my post. I'll keep maintaining the htdig integration patch through to the next major MM (3.0??) release and then review. Hopefully, by then, either my patch will be in a fit state for incorporation into the main MM source (further work will follow to achieve that end) or the MM developers will have added a viable alternative into the main MM source. -- Steve Huston - Unix Systems Admin, Dept. of Astrophysical Sciences Princeton University | ICBM Address: 40.346525 -74.651285 126 Peyton Hall |On my ship, the Rocinante, wheeling through Princeton, NJ 08544 | the galaxies; headed for the heart of Cygnus, (609) 258-7375 | headlong into mystery. -Rush, 'Cygnus X-1' -- Richard Barrett http://www.openinfo.co.uk -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Duplicate footers...
I have setup mailman for my company and our clients to use as a round-robin forum for environmental consulting. I am having a problem with the footer though. We put a disclaimer at the bottom of every e-mail and the reply address back to the group so everyone is included in all discussion and we can archive all correspondence, now after the initial post and reply we start to get multiple footer on the posts. Any suggestion on a work around? Patrick Duncan Network Administrator JD Consulting 512.347.7588 ext.155 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Wishlist and maybe problem solution
At 16:25 03/06/2003, Gerfried Fuchs wrote: Hi! Mailman is great, mailman is good, all hail mailman :) I have to administer a mailing list for which a special requirement was requested: It will be a moderated list where only special people might be able to send mails through. All these mails should have the same From: header, so I thought using the »anonymous_list« might be a good idea -- but I don't see any chance to specify what mailman will put in there. It simply always puts [EMAIL PROTECTED] in there, which is someone we would like to change. Is there a posibility to make this configureable in future versions? I guess this could be quite helpful for others, too. Along the same lines, might it be possible to have an option to rewrite the To: header, too? It should become a more or less hidden setup here, so that could be of help. There is one thing that I like to question: The envelope-sender is set to the -bounce address. From my understanding it must be sufficient to set the Return-Path header to the -bounce address for it to work correctly. The reason why I question this is that there are some mail servers/clients (especially lotus notes) that display something like this: |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or something along these lines, I was just told about the german string that is in between). This doesn't look quite nice and is afaik not needed, for the only header used for bounce messages must be return-path anyway. I think you will also find some versions of MS Outlook display this conflation of several headers in the From field of their GUI (see http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq02.003.htp). The purpose of this behaviour is presumably to alert the end user to the possibility of something nefarious because of the (entirely valid) discrepancy between different headers on a message. This behaviour cannot be controlled by Mailman because it is the programmed into the MUA's GUI code. Fiddling with Mailman will not, I fear, fix programmed behaviour of some MUAs in any reliable way. If these things aren't that easy to change (I would be pleased if someone can send me a patch over, for I'm not that well in python (or rather baaad)), can someone tell me if there is a way to tweak sendmail to change this? I guess I shouldn't be the first to be faced with this problem, so some might already have found a solution for this in sendmail on their own. Otherwise I'd have to use a private mailing-skript in the meantime that allows me to set the headers on my own, and set just the return-path to the -bounce address to get into the benefit of the bounce control mailman does. It's just these special requirements in this case... Btw., I do love mailman, did I mention that already? alfie -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/r.barrett%40openinfo.co.uk -- Richard Barrett http://www.openinfo.co.uk -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] help with shunting problems - scrubber?
Hi all,
(I sent through a message yesterday asking for help with archives not being
updated for a week. I managed to get these updates happening - thanks. I am
presuming it was a qrunner issue relating to an autoreply war on one of my
lists.)
I'm having a serious problem with some mail being shunted for reasons that
don't make sense to me. Lists are generally working very well.
Redhat Linux 7.2 (plesk 5 system hosted at Rackspace)
Version 2.1.2
./configure --with-python=/usr/bin/python2.1 --with-mail-gid=mailman --with-cgi-
gid=48
mhonarc external archiver
The error log errors are below. The first error message happens ALOT, and when
it does happen, it seems to break the list so all messages get shunted. To make
the list work again, I have to remove the digest.mbox file from the list
directory.
Any thoughts? This is causing me major problems with one of my lists in
particular - it hasn't been reported anywhere else yet.
Cheers,
Tobias
-- error 1 starts --
Jun 02 23:20:30 2003 (29585) SHUNTING:
1054494569.225907+c3b095b87fd22777f1a81b37acad616547957223
Jun 02 23:20:30 2003 (29585) Uncaught runner exception: ASCII encoding error:
ordinal not in range
(128)
Jun 02 23:20:30 2003 (29585) Traceback (most recent call last):
File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 105, in _oneloop
self._onefile(msg, msgdata)
File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 155, in _onefile
keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata)
File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py, line 130, in
_dispose
more = self._dopipeline(mlist, msg, msgdata, pipeline)
File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py, line 153, in
_dopipeline
sys.modules[modname].process(mlist, msg, msgdata)
File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py, line 89, in process
send_digests(mlist, mboxfp)
File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py, line 130, in
send_digests
send_i18n_digests(mlist, mboxfp)
File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py, line 303, in
send_i18n_digests
msg = scrubber(mlist, msg)
File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Scrubber.py, line 305, in process
t = unicode(t, 'ascii', 'replace').encode('ascii')
UnicodeError: ASCII encoding error: ordinal not in range(128)
-- error 1 ends --
-- error 2 starts --
Jun 02 23:20:36 2003 (29582) SHUNTING:
1052380894.080789+bb8a6e8a627aebfaa568a0c79fe35df6048ea899
Jun 02 23:20:36 2003 (29582) Uncaught runner exception: [Errno 32] Broken pipe
Jun 02 23:20:36 2003 (29582) Traceback (most recent call last):
File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 105, in _oneloop
self._onefile(msg, msgdata)
File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 155, in _onefile
keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata)
File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/ArchRunner.py, line 73, in _dispose
mlist.ArchiveMail(msg)
File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py, line 198, in
ArchiveMail
self.ExternalArchive(mm_cfg.PUBLIC_EXTERNAL_ARCHIVER, txt)
File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py, line 173, in
ExternalArchive
status = extarch.close()
IOError: [Errno 32] Broken pipe
-- error 2 ends --
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Internet Learning materials now online!
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[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman problem - All lists post to MAILMANadministrative
On 2003-06-03 10:57:09 -0500 Alessandro Luiz Petrocino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] I have Mailman v. 2.1.2 + Postfix installed in a server. Well ... when someone post to a list, don't no why the same message is posted to the MAILMAN list (the administrative one, needed to install the Mailman software) Check your mail aliases. You probably used copy/paste to create the aliases for the list and forgot to replace the new list name on those aliases. -- René Berber -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] digest message count
Hi, I am seeing some mail lists handled by mailman with a message count in the subject line accompanying the digest message. My digest mailings do not have these details. How do I add them? Here is an example of the subject: listname digest, Vol 1 #2186 - 13 msgs message count - Noah -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Re: -request address not working
Drew Hawn wrote: This is a basic question, I apologize, but the searchable archives don't seem to be working Drew, Try these alternatives to The Mail Archive. MARC http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mailman-users GMANE nntp.gmane.org - group: gmane.mail.mailman.user -- Mike Noyes mhnoyes at users.sourceforge.net http://sourceforge.net/users/mhnoyes/ SF.net Projects: ffl, leaf, phpwebsite, phpwebsite-comm, sitedocs -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Searchable archives of this list
Everyone, While The Mail Archive is off-line, these alternative mailman-user list archives are available. MARC: mailman-users http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mailman-users GMANE news.gmane.org - group: gmane.mail.mailman.user http://search.gmane.org/ -- Mike Noyes mhnoyes at users.sourceforge.net http://sourceforge.net/users/mhnoyes/ SF.net Projects: ffl, leaf, phpwebsite, phpwebsite-comm, sitedocs -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Fwd: [Mailman] Cron mailman@server1/usr/bin/python2.1 -S /usr/local/mailman/cron/senddigests
Hi all, Further to the shunting problem I was describing previously, below is what newly appears in my mailbox.. this relates to the digest.mbox file affected by the other shunting problem surely. Is there a problem with the scrubber? My intuition tells me this is where it is, but I'm having alot of trouble troubleshooting it. I'd be grateful for any ideas to help get this problem resolved soon. Best wishes, Tobias -- Tobias Eigen Executive Director Kabissa - Space for change in Africa http://www.kabissa.org TIME TO GET ONLINE Internet Learning materials now online! Go: http://www.ttgo.kabissa.org Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Forwarded message from Cron Daemon [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: 3 Jun 2003 17:00:06 - From: Cron Daemon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Cron Daemon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Mailman] Cron [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/bin/python2.1 - S /usr/local/mailman/cron/senddigests To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/local/mailman/cron/senddigests, line 94, in ? main() File /usr/local/mailman/cron/senddigests, line 86, in main mlist.send_digest_now() File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Digester.py, line 60, in send_digest_now ToDigest.send_digests(self, mboxfp) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py, line 130, in send_digests send_i18n_digests(mlist, mboxfp) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py, line 303, in send_i18n_digests msg = scrubber(mlist, msg) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Scrubber.py, line 178, in process raise DiscardMessage Mailman.Errors.DiscardMessage ___ Mailman mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.kabissa.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman - End forwarded message - -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] HTDIG patches reprieved (was HTDIG patches!Arghh!)
Richard Barrett ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said something that sounded like: Thanks for the kind words guys. I've recovered from the fit of intense irritation that led to my post. I'll keep maintaining the htdig integration patch through to the next major MM (3.0??) release and then review. Hopefully, by then, either my patch will be in a fit state for incorporation into the main MM source (further work will follow to achieve that end) or the MM developers will have added a viable alternative into the main MM source. I want to thank you for this rethought. The htdig integration is something that is definitely important to me on many fronts. I run 3 different sites with them (1 is being deployed in the next week). There are over 350 different mailing lists on these 3 different sites. Thank you for your hard work and for your continued support! Ciao, -- Pug Bainter|AMD, Inc. System Engineer, MTS | Mail Stop 625 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 5900 E. Ben White Blvd Phone: (512) 602-0364| Fax: (512) 602-6970 | Austin, TX 78741 Note: The views may not reflect my employers, or even my own for that matter. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] HTDIG patches reprieved (was HTDIG patches!Arghh!)
On Tue, 3 Jun 2003, Pug Bainter wrote: | Richard Barrett ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said something that sounded like: | Thanks for the kind words guys. | | I've recovered from the fit of intense irritation that led to my post. | | I'll keep maintaining the htdig integration patch through to the next major | MM (3.0??) release and then review. | I want to thank you for this rethought. The htdig integration is something | that is definitely important to me on many fronts. Chipping in my two quantaloos as well, thank you for the creation and maintenence of this. I only signed up here recently, and the cause of that effect was the powers-that-be wanting a search interface for the dozen or so lists that are in use. The patching and configuration were all-but painless, and it's working like a charm. brian -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Topic filtering
Hey all, I'm new to this list and to Mailman in general. I have read the support for topic filtering is included with 2.1 and was wondering where I could find docs that describe its use. I have been over all the guides on the site and searched Google, but have not had a great deal of success. Any pointers to where this information can be found would be greatly appreciated. TIA -- Shad Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Password Reminder problem 2.0.13
I am at a bit of a lost I have about 30 list on one box, but something just happened that has me totally confused. I added another list recently and all of the sudden when the password reminders went out for this new list it included all the members from another list. Hard a heck to explain. But all the members of the devotional list got password reminders for the cnclist to which they do not belong??? Would love to solve this before months end. Mel -- System Janitor/Network Plumber http://www.nwla.com Linux User #25446Linux 2.4.7 -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] does arch interpret mbox files or read themlitteraly?
When I run arch I get a different format than I do from pine or elm IE does arch interpret the mbox file and post the messages in the archive as formatted text or does it just litteraly look for the divisions of the messages and post the messages into the archive? The reason I ask is I have been struggling to convert 4000+ messages from outlook, outlook express, eudora, mozilla you name it to an mbox (and this I can do easily) and then import that mbox into the archives or move the messages via IMAP. My unix mail programs read the mbox easily and the messages appear properly formatted, but when arch parses them and posts them on the web page everything looks like html encoded text ie font = soemthing size= somethign text here /font /size or something to that effect. is there a flag that I am missing? I can't find it anywhere ./arch -h tells me to just give the filename and man arch just tells me about my system architecture. Is there something I have done wrong? TIA, Adam -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] help with shunting problems - scrubber?
Hi,
try this patch.
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailaid=670167group_id=103atid=300103
Tobias Eigen wrote:
Hi all,
(I sent through a message yesterday asking for help with archives not being
updated for a week. I managed to get these updates happening - thanks. I am
presuming it was a qrunner issue relating to an autoreply war on one of my
lists.)
I'm having a serious problem with some mail being shunted for reasons that
don't make sense to me. Lists are generally working very well.
Redhat Linux 7.2 (plesk 5 system hosted at Rackspace)
Version 2.1.2
./configure --with-python=/usr/bin/python2.1 --with-mail-gid=mailman --with-cgi-
gid=48
mhonarc external archiver
The error log errors are below. The first error message happens ALOT, and when
it does happen, it seems to break the list so all messages get shunted. To make
the list work again, I have to remove the digest.mbox file from the list
directory.
Any thoughts? This is causing me major problems with one of my lists in
particular - it hasn't been reported anywhere else yet.
Cheers,
Tobias
-- error 1 starts --
Jun 02 23:20:30 2003 (29585) SHUNTING:
1054494569.225907+c3b095b87fd22777f1a81b37acad616547957223
Jun 02 23:20:30 2003 (29585) Uncaught runner exception: ASCII encoding error:
ordinal not in range
(128)
Jun 02 23:20:30 2003 (29585) Traceback (most recent call last):
File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 105, in _oneloop
self._onefile(msg, msgdata)
File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 155, in _onefile
keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata)
File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py, line 130, in
_dispose
more = self._dopipeline(mlist, msg, msgdata, pipeline)
File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py, line 153, in
_dopipeline
sys.modules[modname].process(mlist, msg, msgdata)
File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py, line 89, in process
send_digests(mlist, mboxfp)
File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py, line 130, in
send_digests
send_i18n_digests(mlist, mboxfp)
File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py, line 303, in
send_i18n_digests
msg = scrubber(mlist, msg)
File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Scrubber.py, line 305, in process
t = unicode(t, 'ascii', 'replace').encode('ascii')
UnicodeError: ASCII encoding error: ordinal not in range(128)
-- error 1 ends --
-- error 2 starts --
Jun 02 23:20:36 2003 (29582) SHUNTING:
1052380894.080789+bb8a6e8a627aebfaa568a0c79fe35df6048ea899
Jun 02 23:20:36 2003 (29582) Uncaught runner exception: [Errno 32] Broken pipe
Jun 02 23:20:36 2003 (29582) Traceback (most recent call last):
File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 105, in _oneloop
self._onefile(msg, msgdata)
File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 155, in _onefile
keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata)
File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/ArchRunner.py, line 73, in _dispose
mlist.ArchiveMail(msg)
File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py, line 198, in
ArchiveMail
self.ExternalArchive(mm_cfg.PUBLIC_EXTERNAL_ARCHIVER, txt)
File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py, line 173, in
ExternalArchive
status = extarch.close()
IOError: [Errno 32] Broken pipe
-- error 2 ends --
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[Mailman-Users] Help with mailpasswds error in CRON job
I have not had any reply to this. I have searched the online archives of this
list, and found nothing helpful.
If someone could point me in the direction of an answer, I would appreciate it:
I am tring to resolve the following error. I cannot seem to find where I have
an error. The Defaults.py file has the DEFAULT_HOST and variations set to
hfradio.org - so why is host_name causing an error? All other functions seem to
work correctly (I do have several lists on two domains). It is only this
function, mailing out the passwords, that gives an error:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File ./mailpasswds, line 218, in ?
main()
File ./mailpasswds, line 210, in main
msg.send(sitelist, **{'errorsto': sitebounce,
File /home/mailman/Mailman/Message.py, line 221, in send
self['Message-ID'] = Utils.unique_message_id(mlist)
File /home/mailman/Mailman/Utils.py, line 634, in unique_message_id
msgid = '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' % (
File /home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 130, in __getattr__
raise AttributeError, name
AttributeError: host_name
Thanks,
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Re: [Mailman-Users] help with shunting problems - scrubber?
Hi Tokio -
I applied the patch, ran bin/unshunt, deleted the digest.mbox file - then
restarted mailmanctl. Unfortunately, I'm still getting the same
funky UnicodeError: ASCII encoding error: ordinal not in range(128)
errors. Any thoughts?
Thanks,
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Quoting Tokio Kikuchi [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hi,
try this patch.
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?
func=detailaid=670167group_id=103atid=300103
Tobias Eigen wrote:
Hi all,
(I sent through a message yesterday asking for help with archives not being
updated for a week. I managed to get these updates happening - thanks. I am
presuming it was a qrunner issue relating to an autoreply war on one of my
lists.)
I'm having a serious problem with some mail being shunted for reasons that
don't make sense to me. Lists are generally working very well.
Redhat Linux 7.2 (plesk 5 system hosted at Rackspace)
Version 2.1.2
./configure --with-python=/usr/bin/python2.1 --with-mail-gid=mailman
--with-cgi-
gid=48
mhonarc external archiver
The error log errors are below. The first error message happens ALOT, and
when
it does happen, it seems to break the list so all messages get shunted. To
make
the list work again, I have to remove the digest.mbox file from the list
directory.
Any thoughts? This is causing me major problems with one of my lists in
particular - it hasn't been reported anywhere else yet.
Cheers,
Tobias
-- error 1 starts --
Jun 02 23:20:30 2003 (29585) SHUNTING:
1054494569.225907+c3b095b87fd22777f1a81b37acad616547957223
Jun 02 23:20:30 2003 (29585) Uncaught runner exception: ASCII encoding
error:
ordinal not in range
(128)
Jun 02 23:20:30 2003 (29585) Traceback (most recent call last):
File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 105, in
_oneloop
self._onefile(msg, msgdata)
File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 155, in
_onefile
keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata)
File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py, line 130, in
_dispose
more = self._dopipeline(mlist, msg, msgdata, pipeline)
File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py, line 153, in
_dopipeline
sys.modules[modname].process(mlist, msg, msgdata)
File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py, line 89, in
process
send_digests(mlist, mboxfp)
File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py, line 130, in
send_digests
send_i18n_digests(mlist, mboxfp)
File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py, line 303, in
send_i18n_digests
msg = scrubber(mlist, msg)
File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Scrubber.py, line 305, in
process
t = unicode(t, 'ascii', 'replace').encode('ascii')
UnicodeError: ASCII encoding error: ordinal not in range(128)
-- error 1 ends --
-- error 2 starts --
Jun 02 23:20:36 2003 (29582) SHUNTING:
1052380894.080789+bb8a6e8a627aebfaa568a0c79fe35df6048ea899
Jun 02 23:20:36 2003 (29582) Uncaught runner exception: [Errno 32] Broken
pipe
Jun 02 23:20:36 2003 (29582) Traceback (most recent call last):
File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 105, in
_oneloop
self._onefile(msg, msgdata)
File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 155, in
_onefile
keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata)
File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/ArchRunner.py, line 73, in
_dispose
mlist.ArchiveMail(msg)
File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py, line 198, in
ArchiveMail
self.ExternalArchive(mm_cfg.PUBLIC_EXTERNAL_ARCHIVER, txt)
File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py, line 173, in
ExternalArchive
status = extarch.close()
IOError: [Errno 32] Broken pipe
-- error 2 ends --
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Re: [Mailman-Users] help with shunting problems - scrubber?
Hmm. What is your language related settings ? You are advised to use latin charset though your list's default language is english by adding entry in mm_cfg.py. (see Defaults.py) You can send me the offending message for inspection. Tobias Eigen wrote: Hi Tokio - I applied the patch, ran bin/unshunt, deleted the digest.mbox file - then restarted mailmanctl. Unfortunately, I'm still getting the same funky UnicodeError: ASCII encoding error: ordinal not in range(128) errors. Any thoughts? Thanks, Tobias -- Tokio Kikucih, tkikuchi@ is.kochi-u.ac.jp http://weather.is.kochi-u.ac.jp/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] help with shunting problems - scrubber?
Tobias,
The shunted messages which you sent caused no error on my installation.
Try putting following statement in your mm_cfg.py and restart mailman.
add_language('en', _('English'), 'iso-8859-1')
You should
1. restart mailmanctl
2. delete digest.mbox
3. unshunt
in this order.
Tokio
Tobias Eigen wrote:
Hi Tokio -
I applied the patch, ran bin/unshunt, deleted the digest.mbox file - then
restarted mailmanctl. Unfortunately, I'm still getting the same
funky UnicodeError: ASCII encoding error: ordinal not in range(128)
errors. Any thoughts?
Thanks,
Tobias
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Re: [Mailman-Users] help with shunting problems - scrubber?
Tobias,
It is bad idea to copy the Defaults.py to mm_cfg.py then edit
the latter. The former may change when updating your version.
You can get my i18n-related patch from
http://mm.tkikuchi.net/mailman-2.1.2+patch.20030429
in mailman-2.1.2 dir, type
$ patch -p0 path/to/this_patch
then, configure, make install and restart.
If it doesn't work, I can't help you.
Tokio
Tobias Eigen wrote:
Hi Tokio - here is my mm_cfg file - are there any problems with it?
-T
# -*- python -*-
# Copyright (C) 1998-2003 by the Free Software Foundation, Inc.
#
# This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or
# modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License
# as published by the Free Software Foundation; either version 2
# of the License, or (at your option) any later version.
#
# This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
# but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
# MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the
# GNU General Public License for more details.
#
# You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License
# along with this program; if not, write to the Free Software
# Foundation, Inc., 59 Temple Place - Suite 330, Boston, MA 02111-1307, USA.
Distributed default settings for significant Mailman config variables.
# NEVER make site configuration changes to this file. ALWAYS make them in
# mm_cfg.py instead, in the designated area. See the comments in that file
# for details.
# add_language('en', _('English (USA)'), 'us-ascii')
add_language('en', 'English', 'iso-8859-1')
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Datestamp in archives?
On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 10:05:53AM -0500, René Berber wrote: I found no option and no patches to do that so I'm now looking for the particular piece of code that creates the subject list. You could (globally) change the digest subjects in Mailman/Handlers/To_Digest.py send_i18n_digests() -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] does arch interpret mbox files or readthem litteraly?
At 00:17 04/06/2003, Adam Lipson wrote: When I run arch I get a different format than I do from pine or elm IE does arch interpret the mbox file and post the messages in the archive as formatted text or does it just litteraly look for the divisions of the messages and post the messages into the archive? The reason I ask is I have been struggling to convert 4000+ messages from outlook, outlook express, eudora, mozilla you name it to an mbox (and this I can do easily) and then import that mbox into the archives or move the messages via IMAP. My unix mail programs read the mbox easily and the messages appear properly formatted, but when arch parses them and posts them on the web page everything looks like html encoded text ie Talking MM 2.1.2 but same principle in MM 2.0.x, just some of the detail varies. Assuming you have the normal default config variable of ARCHIVE_TO_MBOX = 2 set then Mailman will append a verbatim copy of each post to a list to that list's mbox archive (in $prefix/archives/private/listname.mbox/listname.mbox) and generate an HTML version of the post (in a subdirectory of $prefix/archives/private/listname). If you have a bunch of historical stuff in mbox format then prepend it to the list's mbox archive before running $prefix/bin/arch with the --wipe option to generate the initial HTML archives, including the historical stuff. The HTML archive pages are constructed using a template for which the English language default is $prefix/templates/en/article.html The raw email content (as appended to the mbox file) is massaged by MM's internal archiver to give an HTML page and this massaging discards most of the headers and may alos extract attachments and such. You cannot fully reconstruct the raw email from the Mailman HTML archive version of an email; that is why it is default of ARCHIVE_TO_MBOX = 2 to have both mbox and HTML archives retained. font = soemthing size= somethign text here /font /size or something to that effect. is there a flag that I am missing? I can't find it anywhere ./arch -h tells me to just give the filename and man arch just tells me about my system architecture. Is there something I have done wrong? There isn't a man page for MM's arch script; you are seeing the man page for the system's arch command. $prefix/bin/arch wants a list name and a UNIX mailbox file to work off and it constructs/reconstructs the list's HTML archives. If you do not nominate the mbox file then arch looks for the lists' mbox archive file in the default location described above. Is something missing? Depends on what you are you looking for. TIA, Adam -- Richard Barrett http://www.openinfo.co.uk -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Wishlist and maybe problem solution
On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 05:05:44PM +0100, Richard Barrett wrote: At 16:25 03/06/2003, Gerfried Fuchs wrote: |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think you will also find some versions of MS Outlook display this conflation of several headers in the From field of their GUI (see http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq02.003.htp). Yes, that's exactly what it's about, right. The purpose of this behaviour is presumably to alert the end user to the possibility of something nefarious because of the (entirely valid) discrepancy between different headers on a message. Between the envelope-from (Sender-Header) and the From: header. This behaviour cannot be controlled by Mailman because it is the programmed into the MUA's GUI code. Of course it can, because the Sender-Header must not be the -bounces address like I said, it can be the usual mailing-list address instead. The »Return-Path« header is the only one that must be set to the -bounces address, to not loose the bounce-handling of mailman. Thanks for your input, though. I guess I'll have to dig myself. Alfie -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Wishlist and maybe problem solution
At 08:17 04/06/2003, Gerfried Fuchs wrote: On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 05:05:44PM +0100, Richard Barrett wrote: At 16:25 03/06/2003, Gerfried Fuchs wrote: |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think you will also find some versions of MS Outlook display this conflation of several headers in the From field of their GUI (see http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq02.003.htp). Yes, that's exactly what it's about, right. The purpose of this behaviour is presumably to alert the end user to the possibility of something nefarious because of the (entirely valid) discrepancy between different headers on a message. Between the envelope-from (Sender-Header) and the From: header. This behaviour cannot be controlled by Mailman because it is the programmed into the MUA's GUI code. Of course it can, because the Sender-Header must not be the -bounces address like I said, it can be the usual mailing-list address instead. The »Return-Path« header is the only one that must be set to the -bounces address, to not loose the bounce-handling of mailman. Thanks for your input, though. I guess I'll have to dig myself. Alfie If you want to try making your suggested change then (for MM 2.1.2) look to line 342 of Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py in function bulkdeliver() and change: msg['Sender'] = envsender to read: msg['Sender'] = mlist.GetListEmail() Do not forget that indentation is syntactically significant in Python! This change should lead to the SMTP envelope having the bounce alias on it while the Sender is just the list alias. Do not blame me if inappropriate stuff starts getting posted to the list because of the change and do let us know how you get on with the change. -- Richard Barrett http://www.openinfo.co.uk -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Wishlist and maybe problem solution
At 08:58 04/06/2003, Richard Barrett wrote: At 08:17 04/06/2003, Gerfried Fuchs wrote: On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 05:05:44PM +0100, Richard Barrett wrote: At 16:25 03/06/2003, Gerfried Fuchs wrote: |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think you will also find some versions of MS Outlook display this conflation of several headers in the From field of their GUI (see http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq02.003.htp). Yes, that's exactly what it's about, right. The purpose of this behaviour is presumably to alert the end user to the possibility of something nefarious because of the (entirely valid) discrepancy between different headers on a message. Between the envelope-from (Sender-Header) and the From: header. This behaviour cannot be controlled by Mailman because it is the programmed into the MUA's GUI code. Of course it can, because the Sender-Header must not be the -bounces address like I said, it can be the usual mailing-list address instead. The »Return-Path« header is the only one that must be set to the -bounces address, to not loose the bounce-handling of mailman. Thanks for your input, though. I guess I'll have to dig myself. Alfie If you want to try making your suggested change then (for MM 2.1.2) look to line 342 of Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py in function bulkdeliver() and change: msg['Sender'] = envsender to read: msg['Sender'] = mlist.GetListEmail() Do not forget that indentation is syntactically significant in Python! This change should lead to the SMTP envelope having the bounce alias on it while the Sender is just the list alias. Do not blame me if inappropriate stuff starts getting posted to the list because of the change and do let us know how you get on with the change. A general enquiry to Mailman experts. I've tried the patch I suggested above on my test system and it doesn't appear to break anything. MTA's such as Outlook show From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of [EMAIL PROTECTED] which removes the objected to -bounces suffix in the displayed From field. Bounce processing works OK What are the objections to this revision of the Sender header? Is it just the risk of a geriatric MTA returning mail to the Sender address, and hence sending to the list with unpleasant consequences, when it should be returning to the SMTP envelope sender? Thought or comments please -- Richard Barrett http://www.openinfo.co.uk -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Update: Help with mailpasswds error in CRON job
Jim Tittsler provided some help with a bit of code that allowed me to produce
the following:
Running hostname.hostname()...
Loading list rlogbeta (unlocked)
hfradio.org
Loading list pdadev (unlocked)
seasystems.accessnow.com
Loading list jcarc_oh (unlocked)
hfradio.org
Loading list jcarc_repeater (unlocked)
hfradio.org
Loading list jcarc_fieldday (unlocked)
hfradio.org
Loading list jcarc_chat (unlocked)
hfradio.org
Loading list aaa0wa-list (unlocked)
wa.mars.hfradio.org
Finalizing
So, it seems that the script in ~/mailman/bin can see the host_name - but, when
I am in ~/mailman/cron, the mailpasswd script cannot. When I run mailpasswd
with just one list:
mailpasswds -l rlogbeta
I get:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File ./mailpasswds, line 218, in ?
main()
File ./mailpasswds, line 210, in main
msg.send(sitelist, **{'errorsto': sitebounce,
File /home/mailman/Mailman/Message.py, line 221, in send
self['Message-ID'] = Utils.unique_message_id(mlist)
File /home/mailman/Mailman/Utils.py, line 634, in unique_message_id
msgid = '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' % (
File /home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 130, in __getattr__
raise AttributeError, name
AttributeError: host_name
which is the same error the CRON gets.
I don't see any problem - all lists have a valid host name.
So, what could be causing this? Any ideas?
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