[Mailman-Users] Starting qrunner for FreeBSD
Hi, I am a newbie and running Mailman 2.1.1 on FreeBSD 4.7 / VPSv2, which works with the old technique of running qrunner every minute from cron. The INSTALL instructions give some hints on how to start the qrunner daemon at startup time (apparently the preferred mode for 2.1.x), but this seems geared to Linux. I would appreciate any hints on what the best solution for FreeBSD systems is. Amardeo. -- Amardeo Sarma [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Bad Marshal?
I need some help. Im using mailman 2.1.2 on a solaris sparc 7 box. Python 2.2.2. is installed. The folloing messages apears: hangar% Traceback (most recent call last): File "/export/hangar/gp/mailman/bin/qrunner", line 270, in ? main() File "/export/hangar/gp/mailman/bin/qrunner", line 230, in main qrunner.run() File "/export/hangar/gp/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 59, in run filecnt = self._oneloop() File "/export/hangar/gp/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 88, in _oneloop msg, msgdata = self._switchboard.dequeue(filebase) File "/export/hangar/gp/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Switchboard.py", line 144, in dequeue data = self._ext_read(dbfile) File "/export/hangar/gp/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Switchboard.py", line 246, in _ext_read dict = marshal.load(fp) ValueError: bad marshal data And one of my lists is not working. Any clue of what is going on? Thanks in advance. []s Andre Ricardo Righetto ABRAPIV - http://www.abrapiv.com.br/ VBA - http://www.flyvba.com.br/ FABv - http://www.voefab.com.br/ Vamos filhos altivos dos ares Nosso vôo ousado alçar... -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Procmail Lockfiles before Mailman
Hello, I have set up Procmail, so that it fiters all the incoming mails, pipes them to spamassassin and then feeds them to the mailman wrapper. Something like this (it's also described in the python.org FAQ): /etc/mail/aliases: mylist: "/usr/bin/procmail -m MAILMAN=mylist /etc/procmailrc" /etc/procmailrc: :0fw | /usr/bin/spamc -myoptions :0 * [EMAIL PROTECTED] |/var/lib/mailman/mail/wrapper post ${MAILMAN} Now, check out these two: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=all#4.23 http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=all#4.15 In the first case, the procmailrc rule uses a lockfile, but in the second case, it doesn't. I am 90% sure that the rule: :0 * [EMAIL PROTECTED] |/var/lib/mailman/mail/wrapper post ${MAILMAN} doesn't need any procmail lockfile because wrapper knows what to do when two or more e-mails arrive simultaneously (at exactly the same time). Am I right ?? I am only 10% not sure because one of the FAQ examples uses a procmail lockfile. I think it's wrong. -- Kyritsis Athanasios Studying Electrical & Computer Engineering @ Univ. of Patras, Greece -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] messages aren't being delivered to users,but are in the archive
At 22:08 24/06/2003, jacob walcik wrote: yup, the mailman user's crontab was installed as part of the rpm installation, and i've also tried running qrunner manually w/ the command it's issuing, and i don't receive any errors. assuming mailman's home is /var/mailman, where would i look for the "qfiles" file. a "find ./ -name "qfiles" -print" from /var/mailman doesn't return anything. Given your install in /var/mailman and a normal MM 2.0.x install there should be a directory called /var/mailman/qfiles. The script in /var/mailman/scripts takes delivery of incoming messages from the MTA creates a .msg and a .db file in that directory. The qrunner subsequently takes those files and processes them, sending mail out etc. The actual qfiles directory used for enqueueing incoming messages is defined by the config variable QUEUE_DIR in $prefx/Mailman/Defaults.py or possibly (and unusually) overridden $prefix/Mailman/mm_cfg.py. If that directory doesn't exist then something in your install may be screwed. But looking again at your original post you say the message is getting into the archives. That says the message is passing through qfiles, being picked up by the qrunner and so you would expect there to be some trace of its progress in one of Mailman's log files. But you say the directory says $prefix/logs doesn't exist. The log file directory is defined by the config variable LOG_DIR in $prefix/Mailman/Defaults.py or possibly (and unusually) overridden $prefix/Mailman/mm_cfg.py. If that directory doesn't exist then something in your install may be screwed. What value does the config variable DELIVERY_MODULE in $prefix/Mailman/Defaults.py or possibly overridden $prefix/Mailman/mm_cfg.py have and also SMTPHOST. Are there are no logs and no sign of what is happening exists in MM's error, post, smtp and smtp-failure logs. this is actually the version of mailman that shipped w/ redhat 7.3. i've got it running on a different machine that was installed via the same process. i wouldn't necessarily have any issues w/ upgrading to the 2.1 branch (the automatic attachment and html email filtering would be nice), but i'd still like to know if there's any particular reason why this isn't working. On Tuesday, Jun 24, 2003, at 15:20 US/Central, Richard Barrett wrote: At 20:59 24/06/2003, jacob walcik wrote: hello i just installed mailman 2.0.9 on redhat 7.3, and i've run into a snag. i created a new list called "test", added the aliases for it to /etc/procmail/aliases, ran "postalias /etc/procmail/aliases", and then sent a message to my newly created list. i can see the message in the archive, and i can see in my maillog where the message was piped out to the wrapper script, but i haven't received the message at either of the accounts that i subscribed to the list. i don't see any errors in /var/log/messages, the check_perms script comes back clean, and i don't have a "logs" directory in /var/mailman as the faq states i should. does anyone have any suggestions? (if someone can tell me how to enable mailman's logging, i'd appreciate that as well) thanks! The message is probably lodged in $prefix/qfiles. Did you install the mailman user's crontab. Without the qrunner, which is a cron job, no mail will pass through Mailman. Try installing the crontab in $prefix/cron/crontab.in as the mailman uid's crontab Also you are way out of date with the MM version you are running. The last version of was MM 2.0.x was 2.0.13 which was released nearly a year ago and that has superceded this year by MM 2.1.x which is up to 2.1.2. You should certainly consider upgrading although this is probably not the reason for your problem. -- jacob walcik [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- --- Richard Barrett http://www.openinfo.co.uk -- jacob walcik [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Richard Barrett http://www.openinfo.co.uk -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] qmail vs. sendmail
Hi Gang, I don't have qmail installed on my server, and too much of a hassel to do so, so I am planning on using mailman with send mail. I am getting a little confused with setting up though. This is the part that getts me a little baffled ## ## Redirect mail to the standard Mailman admin addresses to the ## master admin address. (Midway.uchicago.edu is our site's central ## mail-routing server, and it carries aliases for maintenance groups. ## Not a good plan to entrust Mailman maintenance mail to Mailman.) ## [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tell me if I get this right [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## ## These addresses are required or recommended either by convention ## or by RFC 2142, "Mailbox Names for Common Services, Roles and ## Functions". Honor them. ## [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] and this [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Can someone let me know Rod -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] messages aren't being delivered to users,but are in the archive
yup, the mailman user's crontab was installed as part of the rpm installation, and i've also tried running qrunner manually w/ the command it's issuing, and i don't receive any errors. assuming mailman's home is /var/mailman, where would i look for the "qfiles" file. a "find ./ -name "qfiles" -print" from /var/mailman doesn't return anything. this is actually the version of mailman that shipped w/ redhat 7.3. i've got it running on a different machine that was installed via the same process. i wouldn't necessarily have any issues w/ upgrading to the 2.1 branch (the automatic attachment and html email filtering would be nice), but i'd still like to know if there's any particular reason why this isn't working. On Tuesday, Jun 24, 2003, at 15:20 US/Central, Richard Barrett wrote: At 20:59 24/06/2003, jacob walcik wrote: hello i just installed mailman 2.0.9 on redhat 7.3, and i've run into a snag. i created a new list called "test", added the aliases for it to /etc/procmail/aliases, ran "postalias /etc/procmail/aliases", and then sent a message to my newly created list. i can see the message in the archive, and i can see in my maillog where the message was piped out to the wrapper script, but i haven't received the message at either of the accounts that i subscribed to the list. i don't see any errors in /var/log/messages, the check_perms script comes back clean, and i don't have a "logs" directory in /var/mailman as the faq states i should. does anyone have any suggestions? (if someone can tell me how to enable mailman's logging, i'd appreciate that as well) thanks! The message is probably lodged in $prefix/qfiles. Did you install the mailman user's crontab. Without the qrunner, which is a cron job, no mail will pass through Mailman. Try installing the crontab in $prefix/cron/crontab.in as the mailman uid's crontab Also you are way out of date with the MM version you are running. The last version of was MM 2.0.x was 2.0.13 which was released nearly a year ago and that has superceded this year by MM 2.1.x which is up to 2.1.2. You should certainly consider upgrading although this is probably not the reason for your problem. -- jacob walcik [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- --- Richard Barrett http://www.openinfo.co.uk -- jacob walcik [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] messages aren't being delivered to users,but are in the archive
At 20:59 24/06/2003, jacob walcik wrote: hello i just installed mailman 2.0.9 on redhat 7.3, and i've run into a snag. i created a new list called "test", added the aliases for it to /etc/procmail/aliases, ran "postalias /etc/procmail/aliases", and then sent a message to my newly created list. i can see the message in the archive, and i can see in my maillog where the message was piped out to the wrapper script, but i haven't received the message at either of the accounts that i subscribed to the list. i don't see any errors in /var/log/messages, the check_perms script comes back clean, and i don't have a "logs" directory in /var/mailman as the faq states i should. does anyone have any suggestions? (if someone can tell me how to enable mailman's logging, i'd appreciate that as well) thanks! The message is probably lodged in $prefix/qfiles. Did you install the mailman user's crontab. Without the qrunner, which is a cron job, no mail will pass through Mailman. Try installing the crontab in $prefix/cron/crontab.in as the mailman uid's crontab Also you are way out of date with the MM version you are running. The last version of was MM 2.0.x was 2.0.13 which was released nearly a year ago and that has superceded this year by MM 2.1.x which is up to 2.1.2. You should certainly consider upgrading although this is probably not the reason for your problem. -- jacob walcik [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Richard Barrett http://www.openinfo.co.uk -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] messages aren't being delivered to users,but are in the archive
hello i just installed mailman 2.0.9 on redhat 7.3, and i've run into a snag. i created a new list called "test", added the aliases for it to /etc/procmail/aliases, ran "postalias /etc/procmail/aliases", and then sent a message to my newly created list. i can see the message in the archive, and i can see in my maillog where the message was piped out to the wrapper script, but i haven't received the message at either of the accounts that i subscribed to the list. i don't see any errors in /var/log/messages, the check_perms script comes back clean, and i don't have a "logs" directory in /var/mailman as the faq states i should. does anyone have any suggestions? (if someone can tell me how to enable mailman's logging, i'd appreciate that as well) thanks! -- jacob walcik [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Q Please .
Dear sir . hi how many e-mail can the Mailman deal with . because i have 58000 email on my site . and what is the maximum number using Maillman you have seen . best regards abo mishaal -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Target Member E-mail addresses
..hope someone can help me out I've created a list named 'pmtargets'. When I send an e-mail to the list, each recipient has the list name in the 'To:' field of the received e-mail rther than his/her e-mail address as it appears on the list. Anyway I can force the recipient's actual email address to appear in the 'To:' field? Regards, Roger -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Mailman features
I have a client who uses your Mailman to distribute messages to his list members. He would like to do two things: 1) embed html into the messages (font changes, images) 2) export the member list to CSV format (or similar ASCII file) Can he do either of these in Mailman? If you'd like to put his name on your inthenews.htm page, his name is Senator David Aronberg, site URL www.davearonberg.com Thanks so much, Debbie Sun Creations Web Design www.suncreations.biz [EMAIL PROTECTED] 321-773-9662 - Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Error using list_members
Hello, I have problems with two list on my mailman. I couldn't dump the members with list_members. I got the following error message: ~~~ Traceback (most recent call last): File "./bin/list_members", line 232, in ? main() File "./bin/list_members", line 207, in main s = formataddr((name, addr)).encode(enc, 'replace') UnicodeError: ASCII decoding error: ordinal not in range(128) ~~~ Please help me Regards Chris -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Yahoo! Group Archive Conversion
~mailman/bin/arch listname file.mbox On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 17:02, Tobias Brasier wrote: > Many thanks to everyone who responded. I am running the Perl script now, > and it seems to be chugging along. It now occurs to me I don't know how to > import the archive into my mailman list. I checked the Admin pages and saw > nothing. Any hints? My guess is the answer may depend on my ISP. > > Again, many thanks. > > At 04:13 PM 6/19/2003 -0400, you wrote: > >Tobias Brasier said: > > > Does anyone have experience converting Yahoo! Group archives to mailman > > > archives? Many thanks. > > > >Yes yes! Do a google for Yahoo2mbox.pl! :) > > > >I converted a highly active list (about 200 subscribers, over a period of > >6 years) to mbox format just peachy :) It does, however, consume time, and > >depending on the size of the list, may take a few days. > > > >B*B > >G. > > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/listmod%40camarilla.white-wolf.com -- --(Dan Wright)- -- - --- -- - - -- East Central ARST-Sabbat -- Venue SOP #Cam-Mage -- AIM: rulesninja -- Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The Rules Ninja's Web Resource: http://cheezl.net/rulesninja --(US2002021042)-- --- --- -- - - -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Removing Archives...
Anyone got a good solution for removing archives? Im quite the newbie. Russ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman-2.1.2 (htdig???)
On 24/06/2003 ODHIAMBO Washington wrote: > Did Richard finally include his htdig (etc..) patches in 2.1.2? > I haven't seen them at the SF download site. i propose to use another external archiver like lurker. lurker has a very mighty search function and provides many more options. see http://lurker.sourceforge.net/ i didn't get lurker to run with mailman yet, but once i did, i'll add an entry to the mailman faq. maybe someone else is faster ;) bye mejo -- Efficiency and progess is ours one more Now that we have the Neutron bomb It's nice and quick and clean and gets things done Kill kill kill kill kill the poor tonight pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman-2.1.2 (htdig???)
At 11:31 24/06/2003, ODHIAMBO Washington wrote: Did Richard finally include his htdig (etc..) patches in 2.1.2? I haven't seen them at the SF download site. They have not been folded into the main MM source and the patches are still available on sourceforge. In total I would advise you to apply the following to MM 2.1.2: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=728836&group_id=103&atid=100103 http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=730769&group_id=103&atid=100103 http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=732366&group_id=103&atid=100103 http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=444879&group_id=103&atid=300103 http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=444884&group_id=103&atid=300103 #730769 and #732766 are not mandatory but do fix bugs extant in MM 2.1.2 #728836, #730769 and #732766 are shown as being closed but that is because they have been incorporated in the CVS and will thus be unnecessary in MM 2.1.3 (when it is published) but they are applicable MM 2.1.2 cheers - wash +--+-+ Odhiambo Washington, [EMAIL PROTECTED] . WANANCHI ONLINE LTD (Nairobi, KE) | http://ns2.wananchi.com/~wash/ . 1ere Etage, Loita Hse, Loita St., | GSM: (+254) 722 743 223 . # 10286, 00100 NAIROBI | +-+--+ "Oh My God! They killed init! You Bastards!" --from a /. post -- Richard Barrett http://www.openinfo.co.uk -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] mailman-2.1.2 (htdig???)
Did Richard finally include his htdig (etc..) patches in 2.1.2? I haven't seen them at the SF download site. cheers - wash +--+-+ Odhiambo Washington, [EMAIL PROTECTED] . WANANCHI ONLINE LTD (Nairobi, KE) | http://ns2.wananchi.com/~wash/ . 1ere Etage, Loita Hse, Loita St., | GSM: (+254) 722 743 223 . # 10286, 00100 NAIROBI | +-+--+ "Oh My God! They killed init! You Bastards!" --from a /. post -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Messages being labeled as spam
At 20:17 23/06/2003, Jaswinder S. Hayre wrote: Guys, We are using Mailman to send messages to a little more than 6000 members but we are realizing a problem. The messages which are delivered by Mailman have no specific address in the To: field. They do have a specific address in the To: header, that of the list to which the post was directed. But instead it contains something like [EMAIL PROTECTED] Some spam filters label mail delivered in this fashion as being spam. This prevents our message from actually reaching the end user even though we have an "opt-in" system. A questionable practice. In much normal email the destination on the mail wrapper and the To: header value of a piece of mail are not the same. Indeed I would suggest that any spam detector is broken that applies the test that the destination on the mail wrapper must be the same as the value of the To: header. Why does Mailman do this? Because it is entirely normal. And is there a way to have the To: field be the actual address that the message is being delivered to? If you are prepared to take the performance hit and you are running MM 2.1.x then you can do the following: 1. Assign a 'true' value to the MM configuration variable OWNERS_CAN_ENABLE_PERSONALIZATION in $prefix/Mailman/mm_cfg.py 2. run $prefix/bin/mailmanctl restart 3. Go to the Non-digest options page of any of your lists and for the option "Should Mailman personalize each non-digest delivery?" select the "Full personalization" radio button. Then click the "Submit your changes" button. 4. Then sit back and watch the load rise on your outgoing MTA. It is worth reading the details of this Non-digest option as with it set up this way, Mailman will pass outgoing mail as a new message to the outgoing for each list member. Regards, Jas -- Richard Barrett http://www.openinfo.co.uk -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org