Re: [Mailman-Users] Can I bypass the header language check

2003-06-25 Thread Tokio Kikuchi
Hi,

You need a Chinese codecs to properly decode the headers.
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-i18n/2003-May/000918.html
may help.
jiands wrote:
Hi,list

I install mailman2.1 with default language.
And I can send and receive mails. When  fill some 
big5 or gb chars in the subject, I meet an error, language lookuperror. It seems that something header filter checks done, Can I bypass the header check?

Any advice I would be grateful.



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[Mailman-Users] Can I bypass the header language check

2003-06-25 Thread jiands
Hi,list

I install mailman2.1 with default language.
And I can send and receive mails. When  fill some 
big5 or gb chars in the subject, I meet an error, language lookuperror. It seems that 
something header filter checks done, Can I bypass the header check?

Any advice I would be grateful.
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[Mailman-Users] Please share the information

2003-06-25 Thread schuetzen
Folks, this is an information list. None of us get any value if A person posts a
question and every answer is OFF the list.
Perhaps no one is getting answers??
Anyway, if you do get answers, please copy them to the list here so that we all
can learn from them.

and for those of you gurus, please post your answers to the list FIRST and then
offlist if you want.

thanks
chas
full of questions and no answers.
also, getting dumber by the day.

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RE: [Mailman-Users] (no subject)

2003-06-25 Thread Mike Kercher
Try http://192.168.0.102/mailman/listinfo/test
Or http://192.168.0.102/mailman/admin/test 

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Hello I have a problem or question I suppose.  I setup my mailman using an
RPM.  It appeared to install with no issues.  The mailman.conf file is
correct and has been correctly configured to be called by httpd.conf.

The problem is that if I try to connect using
http://192.168.0.102/mailman/listinfo  I keep getting Forbidden errors.
Nothing with mailman will work.  Am I missing something or is there
something else I need to do.  Apparently it recognizes the pages or I would
get page not found errors instead.

Please give me the proper direction to head to fix this problem.

I did create a test list prior to trying to connect.  And I also tried
http://192.168.0.102/mailman/test/listinfo just to be sure and it also
produced Forbidden access error pages.

Please help.

Thanks,
Steve Smith

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RE: [Mailman-Users] Starting qrunner for FreeBSD

2003-06-25 Thread John Michael Mars
The more cordial reply. But it's still not as good as "read the docs." :)

- JMM

On Wed, 25 Jun 2003, Adam Lipson wrote:

> run bin/newlist mailman and this list will be created and then you will be able to 
> start up mailman with bin/mailmanctl start.
>
> Adam
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Amardeo Sarma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 4:09 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Starting qrunner for FreeBSD
>
>
> On 24 Jun 2003 at 21:57, John Michael Mars wrote:
>
> > There is not BSD specific documentation in there. I was thinking about
> > submitting a patch for anyone who wants it...
> >
> > Basically, (I use OpenBSD), you need to set this stuff in /etc/rc.local
> > and /etc/rc.shutdown instead of /etc/rc.d/init.d. BSDs are BSDish. Linux
> > is SysVish. The layout of some of the file system (including config files)
> > is a bit different. Linux, being the most popular, is the one that
> > typically gets documented and BSDers just have to get to it themselves.
> >
>
> Anyone have an idea why on running "bin/mailmanctl start" from the $prefix
> directory (again FreeBSD) I get the error message:
>
> Site list is missing: mailman
>
> ?
>
> Amardeo.
>
> > - JMM
> >
> > On Wed, 25 Jun 2003, Amardeo Sarma wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I am a newbie and running Mailman 2.1.1 on FreeBSD 4.7 / VPSv2, which works
> > > with the old technique of running qrunner every minute from cron. The INSTALL
> > > instructions give some hints on how to start the qrunner daemon at startup time
> > > (apparently the preferred mode for 2.1.x), but this seems geared to Linux. I
> > > would appreciate any hints on what the best solution for FreeBSD systems is.
> > >
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Starting qrunner for FreeBSD

2003-06-25 Thread John Michael Mars
It's called read the docs. You can't expect people to do EVERYTHING. Read
the docs and THEN install or use a port. Help is for people that at least
try to help themselves FIRST. That's my opinion.

- JMM

On Wed, 25 Jun 2003, Amardeo Sarma wrote:

> On 24 Jun 2003 at 21:57, John Michael Mars wrote:
>
> > There is not BSD specific documentation in there. I was thinking about
> > submitting a patch for anyone who wants it...
> >
> > Basically, (I use OpenBSD), you need to set this stuff in /etc/rc.local
> > and /etc/rc.shutdown instead of /etc/rc.d/init.d. BSDs are BSDish. Linux
> > is SysVish. The layout of some of the file system (including config files)
> > is a bit different. Linux, being the most popular, is the one that
> > typically gets documented and BSDers just have to get to it themselves.
> >
>
> Anyone have an idea why on running "bin/mailmanctl start" from the $prefix
> directory (again FreeBSD) I get the error message:
>
> Site list is missing: mailman
>
> ?
>
> Amardeo.
>
> > - JMM
> >
> > On Wed, 25 Jun 2003, Amardeo Sarma wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I am a newbie and running Mailman 2.1.1 on FreeBSD 4.7 / VPSv2, which works
> > > with the old technique of running qrunner every minute from cron. The INSTALL
> > > instructions give some hints on how to start the qrunner daemon at startup time
> > > (apparently the preferred mode for 2.1.x), but this seems geared to Linux. I
> > > would appreciate any hints on what the best solution for FreeBSD systems is.
> > >
> > > Amardeo.
> > >
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Starting qrunner for FreeBSD

2003-06-25 Thread John Michael Mars
> In FreeBSD the startup scripts are in /usr/local/etc/rc.d

Submit a doc patch. :)

- JMM

On Wed, 25 Jun 2003, Glenn Sieb wrote:

>
> John Michael Mars said:
> > There is not BSD specific documentation in there. I was thinking about
> submitting a patch for anyone who wants it...
> >
> > Basically, (I use OpenBSD), you need to set this stuff in /etc/rc.local
> and /etc/rc.shutdown instead of /etc/rc.d/init.d. BSDs are BSDish. Linux
> is SysVish. The layout of some of the file system (including config
> files) is a bit different. Linux, being the most popular, is the one
> that typically gets documented and BSDers just have to get to it
> themselves.
>
>
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[Mailman-Users] make big5 translate errors

2003-06-25 Thread jiands
Hi, list,

I try to run make  in messages of mailman2.1.21 src directory for big5.
It outcomes an error:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] messages]# make
/usr/bin/python ../build/bin/msgfmt.py -o big5/LC_MESSAGES/mailman.mo 
big5/LC_MESSAGES/mailman.po
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "../build/bin/msgfmt.py", line 203, in ?
main()
  File "../build/bin/msgfmt.py", line 199, in main
make(filename, outfile)
  File "../build/bin/msgfmt.py", line 151, in make
l = eval(l)
  File "", line 1
"?"
  ^
SyntaxError: invalid token
make: [big5/LC_MESSAGES/mailman.mo] Error 1 (ignored)

what is wrong ?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] LC_MESSAGES]# msgfmt -v -o mailman.mo mailman.po
183 translated messages, 365 fuzzy translations, 699 untranslated messages.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailman]# bin/transcheck big5
HTML checking templates/big5/admindbpreamble.html... 
 - Too few %(detailsurl)s
 - Too few %(summaryurl)s
 - Too few %(description)s
HTML checking templates/big5/admlogin.html... 
 - Too few %(who)s
HTML checking templates/big5/handle_opts.html... 
 - Can'open original file templates/en/handle_opts.html
HTML checking templates/big5/headfoot.html... 
 - %(attribute)s was not found
HTML checking templates/big5/listinfo.html... 
HTML checking templates/big5/options.html... 
 -  was not found
 -  was not found
 -  was not found
 -  was not found
 -  was not found
 - Too few 
 - Too few 
 - Too few 
 - Too few 
HTML checking templates/big5/roster.html... 
HTML checking templates/big5/subscribe.html... 
TXT  checking templates/big5/adminsubscribeack.txt... 
TXT  checking templates/big5/adminunsubscribeack.txt... 
TXT  checking templates/big5/approve.txt... 
TXT  checking templates/big5/bounce.txt... 
TXT  checking templates/big5/checkdbs.txt... 
TXT  checking templates/big5/convert.txt... 
TXT  checking templates/big5/cronpass.txt... 
TXT  checking templates/big5/help.txt... 
TXT  checking templates/big5/masthead.txt... 
TXT  checking templates/big5/newlist.txt... 
TXT  checking templates/big5/postack.txt... 
 - Too few %(optionsurl)s
TXT  checking templates/big5/postauth.txt... 
TXT  checking templates/big5/postheld.txt... 
 - Too few %(confirmurl)s
TXT  checking templates/big5/refuse.txt... 
TXT  checking templates/big5/subauth.txt... 
TXT  checking templates/big5/subscribeack.txt... 
TXT  checking templates/big5/userpass.txt... 
 - %(adminaddr)s was not found
 - Too few %(fqdn_lname)s
 - Too few %(owneraddr)s
TXT  checking templates/big5/verify.txt... 
 - Too much %(cookie)s
 - Too few %(confirmurl)s
PO   checking messages/big5/LC_MESSAGES/mailman.po... 
 - near line 169 ['Mailman/Archiver/HyperArch.py:1214']: %s was not found
 - near line 169 ['Mailman/Archiver/HyperArch.py:1214']: Too few %(seq)s
 - near line 194 ['Mailman/Archiver/pipermail.py:419']: %s was not found
 - near line 194 ['Mailman/Archiver/pipermail.py:419']: Too few %(archive)s
 - near line 229 ['Mailman/Bouncer.py:184']: %s was not found
 - near line 263 ['Mailman/Cgi/admin.py:70', 'Mailman/Cgi/admindb.py:89', 
'Mailman/Cgi/confirm.py:55', 'Mailman/Cgi/edithtml.py:67', 
'Mailman/Cgi/listinfo.py:51', 'Mailman/Cgi/options.py:71', 
'Mailman/Cgi/private.py:98', 'Mailman/Cgi/rmlist.py:64', 'Mailman/Cgi/roster.py:57', 
'Mailman/Cgi/subscribe.py:61']: %s was not found
 - near line 263 ['Mailman/Cgi/admin.py:70', 'Mailman/Cgi/admindb.py:89', 
'Mailman/Cgi/confirm.py:55', 'Mailman/Cgi/edithtml.py:67', 
'Mailman/Cgi/listinfo.py:51', 'Mailman/Cgi/options.py:71', 
'Mailman/Cgi/private.py:98', 'Mailman/Cgi/rmlist.py:64', 'Mailman/Cgi/roster.py:57', 
'Mailman/Cgi/subscribe.py:61']: Too few %(safelistname)s
 - near line 273 ['Mailman/Cgi/admin.py:85', 'Mailman/Cgi/admindb.py:105', 
'Mailman/Cgi/edithtml.py:85', 'Mailman/Cgi/private.py:123']: %(creatorurl)s was not 
found
 - near line 305 ['Mailman/Cgi/admin.py:332']: %s was not found
 - near line 305 ['Mailman/Cgi/admin.py:332']: %s was not found
 - near line 305 ['Mailman/Cgi/admin.py:332']: Too few %(realname)s
 - near line 305 ['Mailman/Cgi/admin.py:332']: Too few %(varname)s
 - near line 310 ['Mailman/Cgi/admin.py:339']: %s was not found
 - near line 310 ['Mailman/Cgi/admin.py:339']: Too few %(varname)s
 - near line 329 ['Mailman/Cgi/admin.py:368']: %s was not found
 - near line 329 ['Mailman/Cgi/admin.py:368']: Too few %(categoryname)s
 - near line 338 ['Mailman/Cgi/admin.py:384']: %s was not found
 - near line 338 ['Mailman/Cgi/admin.py:384']: %s was not found
 - near line 338 ['Mailman/Cgi/admin.py:384']: Too few %(realname)s
 - near line 338 ['Mailman/Cgi/admin.py:384']: Too few %(label)s
 - near line 369 ['Mailman/Cgi/admin.py:417']: %s was not found
 - near line 369 ['Mailman/Cgi/admin.py:417']: %s was not found
 - near line 388 ['Mailman/Cgi/admin.py:479']: %s was not found
 - near line 423 ['Mailman/Cgi/admin.py:604']: %s was not found
 - near line 423 ['Mailman/Cgi/admin.py:604']: Too few %(record)s
 - near line 680 ['Mailman/Cgi/admin.py:1050']: %s was not found
 - near line 680 ['Mailman/Cg

[Mailman-Users] Question About List subscription.

2003-06-25 Thread multimedia-fan
Installed Mailman, and everything so far looks OK.

One thing that is bothering me, and I have seen this on lists that I
subscribed to in the past that were using Mailman.

Upon going to the list info page and signing up using a an email and
password, the request is taking forever to be sent to the list admin and
the confirmation sent to the user, is there some setting that I can
change somewhere to have that done immediately?

Sorry if I missed that in the documentation or the FAQ, I can't seem to
find this.

Thank you.


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[Mailman-Users] (no subject)

2003-06-25 Thread Stephen Smith
Hello I have a problem or question I suppose.  I setup my mailman using an RPM.  It 
appeared to install with no issues.  The mailman.conf file is correct and has been 
correctly configured to be called by httpd.conf.

The problem is that if I try to connect using http://192.168.0.102/mailman/listinfo  I 
keep getting Forbidden errors.  Nothing with mailman will work.  Am I missing 
something or is there something else I need to do.  Apparently it recognizes the pages 
or I would get page not found errors instead.

Please give me the proper direction to head to fix this problem.

I did create a test list prior to trying to connect.  And I also tried 
http://192.168.0.102/mailman/test/listinfo just to be sure and it also produced 
Forbidden access error pages.

Please help.

Thanks,
Steve Smith

BTW - if you want to check it out from outside - use http://ke4mdx.com/whatever

Maybe I just don't know now to use mailman as the site owner.
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RE: [Mailman-Users] Starting qrunner for FreeBSD

2003-06-25 Thread Adam Lipson
run bin/newlist mailman and this list will be created and then you will be able to 
start up mailman with bin/mailmanctl start.

Adam

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From: Amardeo Sarma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 4:09 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Starting qrunner for FreeBSD


On 24 Jun 2003 at 21:57, John Michael Mars wrote:

> There is not BSD specific documentation in there. I was thinking about
> submitting a patch for anyone who wants it...
> 
> Basically, (I use OpenBSD), you need to set this stuff in /etc/rc.local
> and /etc/rc.shutdown instead of /etc/rc.d/init.d. BSDs are BSDish. Linux
> is SysVish. The layout of some of the file system (including config files)
> is a bit different. Linux, being the most popular, is the one that
> typically gets documented and BSDers just have to get to it themselves.
> 

Anyone have an idea why on running "bin/mailmanctl start" from the $prefix 
directory (again FreeBSD) I get the error message:

Site list is missing: mailman

?

Amardeo.

> - JMM
> 
> On Wed, 25 Jun 2003, Amardeo Sarma wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am a newbie and running Mailman 2.1.1 on FreeBSD 4.7 / VPSv2, which works
> > with the old technique of running qrunner every minute from cron. The INSTALL
> > instructions give some hints on how to start the qrunner daemon at startup time
> > (apparently the preferred mode for 2.1.x), but this seems geared to Linux. I
> > would appreciate any hints on what the best solution for FreeBSD systems is.
> >
> > Amardeo.
> >
> > --
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Starting qrunner for FreeBSD

2003-06-25 Thread Amardeo Sarma
On 24 Jun 2003 at 21:57, John Michael Mars wrote:

> There is not BSD specific documentation in there. I was thinking about
> submitting a patch for anyone who wants it...
> 
> Basically, (I use OpenBSD), you need to set this stuff in /etc/rc.local
> and /etc/rc.shutdown instead of /etc/rc.d/init.d. BSDs are BSDish. Linux
> is SysVish. The layout of some of the file system (including config files)
> is a bit different. Linux, being the most popular, is the one that
> typically gets documented and BSDers just have to get to it themselves.
> 

Anyone have an idea why on running "bin/mailmanctl start" from the $prefix 
directory (again FreeBSD) I get the error message:

Site list is missing: mailman

?

Amardeo.

> - JMM
> 
> On Wed, 25 Jun 2003, Amardeo Sarma wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am a newbie and running Mailman 2.1.1 on FreeBSD 4.7 / VPSv2, which works
> > with the old technique of running qrunner every minute from cron. The INSTALL
> > instructions give some hints on how to start the qrunner daemon at startup time
> > (apparently the preferred mode for 2.1.x), but this seems geared to Linux. I
> > would appreciate any hints on what the best solution for FreeBSD systems is.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Lists of lists question...

2003-06-25 Thread Richard Barrett
At 18:08 25/06/2003, John Lockard wrote:
Nope, that only tells me how to create an "umbrella list" but
doesn't tackle the important issue of only allowing members
of the sublists to post to the umbrella list.
The last part of the FAQ entry under the line reading "The work-around for 
this is to setup a script that builds a Mega-list out of other lists on 
your server" is why I pointed you at that FAQ entry. What you want to do is 
going to be a problem with umbrella lists whereas he synthesised superior 
list may give you the flexibility you want on the posting front. You may 
have to edit the script presented source code but it is a start.It may not 
be that elegant but other subscribers to mailman-users are said to swear by 
it. Just a thought.

-John

At 12:18 18/06/2003, Richard Barrett wrote:
>
> At 19:58 18/06/2003, John Lockard wrote:
> >
> > I have several lists that in best practice I'd like to
> > remain hierarchical.
> >
> >
> > Example:
> >
> > staff.all(all staff)
> > staff.pt (PT staff)
> > staff.ft (FT staff)
> >
> >
> > I would prefer to add full time staff members to the
> > staff.ft list only and part time staff members to the
> > staff.pt list only, and have staff.pt and staff.ft be
> > members of staff.all.  I would like to have all of the
> > staff lists be restricted so that only members of the
> > staff lists (staff.pt and staff.ft) be able to post to
> > any of the staff lists.
> >
> >
> > I would prefer to not have to add a full time staff
> > member to staff.all and staff.ft.  To allow a full time
> > staff member to post to staff.all I would like to be
> > able to just add him/her to the staff.ft list and not
> > have to add them to an "allow list" in staff.all.
> >
> >
> > Is there a way (or an easy way) to do this with Mailman?
>
> The following page in the Mailman FAQ might give you some useful hints:
>
> http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq03.005.htp
>
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[Mailman-Users] Lists of lists question...

2003-06-25 Thread John Lockard
Nope, that only tells me how to create an "umbrella list" but
doesn't tackle the important issue of only allowing members
of the sublists to post to the umbrella list.

-John

At 12:18 18/06/2003, Richard Barrett wrote:
> 
> At 19:58 18/06/2003, John Lockard wrote:
> > 
> > I have several lists that in best practice I'd like to
> > remain hierarchical.
> > 
> > 
> > Example:
> > 
> > staff.all(all staff)
> > staff.pt (PT staff)
> > staff.ft (FT staff)
> > 
> > 
> > I would prefer to add full time staff members to the
> > staff.ft list only and part time staff members to the
> > staff.pt list only, and have staff.pt and staff.ft be
> > members of staff.all.  I would like to have all of the
> > staff lists be restricted so that only members of the
> > staff lists (staff.pt and staff.ft) be able to post to
> > any of the staff lists.
> > 
> > 
> > I would prefer to not have to add a full time staff
> > member to staff.all and staff.ft.  To allow a full time
> > staff member to post to staff.all I would like to be
> > able to just add him/her to the staff.ft list and not
> > have to add them to an "allow list" in staff.all.
> > 
> > 
> > Is there a way (or an easy way) to do this with Mailman?
> 
> The following page in the Mailman FAQ might give you some useful hints:
> 
> http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq03.005.htp
> 
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[Mailman-Users] Line Wraps in Archives

2003-06-25 Thread E M Recio
I have been trying to find the patch to the archive program which allows
for replacement of  with  but have been unsuccessful. If someone
could point me in the right direction I would appreciate it.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] messages aren't being delivered to users,but are in the archive

2003-06-25 Thread jacob walcik
bizarre.  changing the SMTPHOST in mm_cfg.py from 'localhost' to the  
hostname of the server fixed it.

thanks for all the help!

On Wednesday, Jun 25, 2003, at 10:56 US/Central, Richard Barrett wrote:

At 16:39 25/06/2003, jacob walcik wrote:
alright, upgraded to 2.1.2 as per the recommendation in the original  
response.  same problem continues, but now i've actually got error  
messages from the logs to share.

from logs/smtp:
Jun 25 10:23:12 2003 (11504) All recipients refused: (111,  
'Connection refused')
Jun 25 10:23:12 2003 (11504) All recipients refused: please run  
connect() first
Jun 25 10:23:12 2003 (11504)  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> smtp for 2  
recips, completed in 0.037 seconds

from Defaults.py (not overridden in mm_cfg.py):
SMTPHOST = 'localhost'
and
DELIVERY_MODULE = 'SMTPDirect'
where is the "All recipients refused" message coming from?  postfix's  
log shows the message going through just fine:
Jun 25 10:23:12 dastardly postfix/local[11553]: B03606000E:  
to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, relay=local, delay=1, status=sent  
("|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post test")
This mail log entry apparently shows the delivery of the incoming  
message to Mailman.

The MM post log entry seems to be saying that MM could not make a  
connection in order to send _out_ a message to the list's subscribers.  
There may also be a message in the MM smtp-failure log.

You can find out what MM is trying to use for outbound message  
transport by looking in $prefix/Mailman/Defaults.py unless you have  
overridden these by assignments in $prefix/Mailman/mm_cfg.py. Usual  
defaults are:

DELIVERY_MODULE = 'SMTPDirect'

SMTPHOST = 'localhost'

The error reported seems to indicate that Mailman is having trouble  
connecting to whatever outgoing mail server it is trying to  
communicate with..


On Tuesday, Jun 24, 2003, at 17:19 US/Central, Richard Barrett wrote:

At 22:08 24/06/2003, jacob walcik wrote:
yup, the mailman user's crontab was installed as part of the rpm
installation, and i've also tried running qrunner manually w/ the
command it's issuing, and i don't receive any errors.
assuming mailman's home is /var/mailman, where would i look for the
"qfiles" file.  a "find ./ -name "qfiles" -print" from /var/mailman
doesn't return anything.
Given your install in /var/mailman and a normal MM 2.0.x install  
there should be a directory called /var/mailman/qfiles. The script  
in /var/mailman/scripts takes delivery of incoming messages from the  
MTA creates a .msg and a .db file in that directory. The qrunner  
subsequently takes those files and processes them, sending mail out  
etc.

The actual qfiles directory used for enqueueing incoming messages is  
defined by the config variable QUEUE_DIR in  
$prefx/Mailman/Defaults.py or possibly (and unusually) overridden  
$prefix/Mailman/mm_cfg.py. If that directory doesn't exist then  
something in your install may be screwed.

But looking again at your original post you say the message is  
getting into the archives. That says the message is passing through  
qfiles, being picked up by the qrunner and so you would expect there  
to be some trace of its progress in one of Mailman's log files.

But you say the directory says $prefix/logs doesn't exist. The log  
file directory is defined by the config variable LOG_DIR in  
$prefix/Mailman/Defaults.py or possibly (and unusually) overridden  
$prefix/Mailman/mm_cfg.py. If that directory doesn't exist then  
something in your install may be screwed.

What value does the config variable DELIVERY_MODULE in  
$prefix/Mailman/Defaults.py or possibly overridden  
$prefix/Mailman/mm_cfg.py have and also SMTPHOST.

Are there are no logs and no sign of what is happening exists in  
MM's error, post, smtp and smtp-failure logs.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] messages aren't being delivered to users,but are in the archive

2003-06-25 Thread Richard Barrett
At 16:39 25/06/2003, jacob walcik wrote:
alright, upgraded to 2.1.2 as per the recommendation in the original 
response.  same problem continues, but now i've actually got error 
messages from the logs to share.

from logs/smtp:
Jun 25 10:23:12 2003 (11504) All recipients refused: (111, 'Connection 
refused')
Jun 25 10:23:12 2003 (11504) All recipients refused: please run connect() 
first
Jun 25 10:23:12 2003 (11504) 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> smtp for 2 recips, 
completed in 0.037 seconds

from Defaults.py (not overridden in mm_cfg.py):
SMTPHOST = 'localhost'
and
DELIVERY_MODULE = 'SMTPDirect'
where is the "All recipients refused" message coming from?  postfix's log 
shows the message going through just fine:
Jun 25 10:23:12 dastardly postfix/local[11553]: B03606000E: 
to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, relay=local, delay=1, status=sent 
("|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post test")
This mail log entry apparently shows the delivery of the incoming message 
to Mailman.

The MM post log entry seems to be saying that MM could not make a 
connection in order to send _out_ a message to the list's subscribers. 
There may also be a message in the MM smtp-failure log.

You can find out what MM is trying to use for outbound message transport by 
looking in $prefix/Mailman/Defaults.py unless you have overridden these by 
assignments in $prefix/Mailman/mm_cfg.py. Usual defaults are:

DELIVERY_MODULE = 'SMTPDirect'

SMTPHOST = 'localhost'

The error reported seems to indicate that Mailman is having trouble 
connecting to whatever outgoing mail server it is trying to communicate with..


On Tuesday, Jun 24, 2003, at 17:19 US/Central, Richard Barrett wrote:

At 22:08 24/06/2003, jacob walcik wrote:
yup, the mailman user's crontab was installed as part of the rpm
installation, and i've also tried running qrunner manually w/ the
command it's issuing, and i don't receive any errors.
assuming mailman's home is /var/mailman, where would i look for the
"qfiles" file.  a "find ./ -name "qfiles" -print" from /var/mailman
doesn't return anything.
Given your install in /var/mailman and a normal MM 2.0.x install there 
should be a directory called /var/mailman/qfiles. The script in 
/var/mailman/scripts takes delivery of incoming messages from the MTA 
creates a .msg and a .db file in that directory. The qrunner subsequently 
takes those files and processes them, sending mail out etc.

The actual qfiles directory used for enqueueing incoming messages is 
defined by the config variable QUEUE_DIR in $prefx/Mailman/Defaults.py or 
possibly (and unusually) overridden $prefix/Mailman/mm_cfg.py. If that 
directory doesn't exist then something in your install may be screwed.

But looking again at your original post you say the message is getting 
into the archives. That says the message is passing through qfiles, being 
picked up by the qrunner and so you would expect there to be some trace 
of its progress in one of Mailman's log files.

But you say the directory says $prefix/logs doesn't exist. The log file 
directory is defined by the config variable LOG_DIR in 
$prefix/Mailman/Defaults.py or possibly (and unusually) overridden 
$prefix/Mailman/mm_cfg.py. If that directory doesn't exist then something 
in your install may be screwed.

What value does the config variable DELIVERY_MODULE in 
$prefix/Mailman/Defaults.py or possibly overridden 
$prefix/Mailman/mm_cfg.py have and also SMTPHOST.

Are there are no logs and no sign of what is happening exists in MM's 
error, post, smtp and smtp-failure logs.
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[Mailman-Users] vette: Message discarded

2003-06-25 Thread Norbert Brazda
After upgrade to MM 2.1.2 some messages sent to our mailinglists were being shunted 
and some discarded. I think that shunting had to do with MIME encoding (our users 
write in Slovak languague that uses characters with accent in windows-1250 encoding). 
We disabled all content filtering, but some problems still persist.

Some messages sent to some public, unmoderated mailinglists with no content filtering 
set are still being automatically discarded by Mailman with no notice sent to poster 
or listmaster. Mailinglist is set to HOLD all problematic messages (sent by 
non-members, etc.) and send notification to the poster and listmaster.

here is piece from vette log file:
=== 
Jun 25 16:44:01 2003 (27393) Message discarded, msgid: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
===


After few days of testing miscelanous settings and searching for answer on internet I 
gave up and removed mailinglist and recreated it. It started to work and it worked for 
about two months with no problem, but now again some mailinglists (others are working 
well) started to automatically discard messages. Seems like there the database of that 
mailinglists might become corrupted...

Did someone else encountered such problems? Any solution? Or recommendation how to 
debug the problem (I am not familiar with python)? 


Versions:
MailMan 2.1.2, Python 2.2, RedHat 7.3



Thanks for any answer,




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Re: [Mailman-Users] Starting qrunner for FreeBSD

2003-06-25 Thread Glenn Sieb

John Michael Mars said:
> There is not BSD specific documentation in there. I was thinking about
submitting a patch for anyone who wants it...
>
> Basically, (I use OpenBSD), you need to set this stuff in /etc/rc.local
and /etc/rc.shutdown instead of /etc/rc.d/init.d. BSDs are BSDish. Linux
is SysVish. The layout of some of the file system (including config
files) is a bit different. Linux, being the most popular, is the one
that typically gets documented and BSDers just have to get to it
themselves.

In FreeBSD the startup scripts are in /usr/local/etc/rc.d

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Re: [Mailman-Users] messages aren't being delivered to users,but are in the archive

2003-06-25 Thread jacob walcik
alright, upgraded to 2.1.2 as per the recommendation in the original 
response.  same problem continues, but now i've actually got error 
messages from the logs to share.

from logs/smtp:
Jun 25 10:23:12 2003 (11504) All recipients refused: (111, 'Connection 
refused')
Jun 25 10:23:12 2003 (11504) All recipients refused: please run 
connect() first
Jun 25 10:23:12 2003 (11504) 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> smtp for 2 
recips, completed in 0.037 seconds

from Defaults.py (not overridden in mm_cfg.py):
SMTPHOST = 'localhost'
and
DELIVERY_MODULE = 'SMTPDirect'
where is the "All recipients refused" message coming from?  postfix's 
log shows the message going through just fine:
Jun 25 10:23:12 dastardly postfix/local[11553]: B03606000E: 
to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, relay=local, delay=1, status=sent 
("|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post test")

On Tuesday, Jun 24, 2003, at 17:19 US/Central, Richard Barrett wrote:

At 22:08 24/06/2003, jacob walcik wrote:
yup, the mailman user's crontab was installed as part of the rpm
installation, and i've also tried running qrunner manually w/ the
command it's issuing, and i don't receive any errors.
assuming mailman's home is /var/mailman, where would i look for the
"qfiles" file.  a "find ./ -name "qfiles" -print" from /var/mailman
doesn't return anything.
Given your install in /var/mailman and a normal MM 2.0.x install there 
should be a directory called /var/mailman/qfiles. The script in 
/var/mailman/scripts takes delivery of incoming messages from the MTA 
creates a .msg and a .db file in that directory. The qrunner 
subsequently takes those files and processes them, sending mail out 
etc.

The actual qfiles directory used for enqueueing incoming messages is 
defined by the config variable QUEUE_DIR in $prefx/Mailman/Defaults.py 
or possibly (and unusually) overridden $prefix/Mailman/mm_cfg.py. If 
that directory doesn't exist then something in your install may be 
screwed.

But looking again at your original post you say the message is getting 
into the archives. That says the message is passing through qfiles, 
being picked up by the qrunner and so you would expect there to be 
some trace of its progress in one of Mailman's log files.

But you say the directory says $prefix/logs doesn't exist. The log 
file directory is defined by the config variable LOG_DIR in 
$prefix/Mailman/Defaults.py or possibly (and unusually) overridden 
$prefix/Mailman/mm_cfg.py. If that directory doesn't exist then 
something in your install may be screwed.

What value does the config variable DELIVERY_MODULE in 
$prefix/Mailman/Defaults.py or possibly overridden 
$prefix/Mailman/mm_cfg.py have and also SMTPHOST.

Are there are no logs and no sign of what is happening exists in MM's 
error, post, smtp and smtp-failure logs.
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[Mailman-Users] Subscribing people by email

2003-06-25 Thread Simon Harrison
Hi,

We would like to subscribe people to Mailman 2.1.2 using a form on one
of our websites that will generate an email to the request address with
a subscribe request, however we do not want Mailman to send confirmation
to each email address subscribed nor do we want to have to approve each
request manually.

Is there a way of achieving this, perhaps by including an approval
password in the body of the message so that subscribe requests are
automatically approved without the need for a confirm.

Thanks,

Simon
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[Mailman-Users] setting up sendmail to use mailman

2003-06-25 Thread Webmaster - CyberTwinks

Hi Gang,

I don't have qmail installed on my server, and too much of a hassel to do
so, so I am planning on using mailman with send mail.  I am getting a
little confused with setting up though.

This is the part that getts me a little baffled

##
## Redirect mail to the standard Mailman admin addresses to the
## master admin address. (Midway.uchicago.edu is our site's central
## mail-routing server, and it carries aliases for maintenance groups.
## Not a good plan to entrust Mailman maintenance mail to Mailman.)
##
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Tell me if I get this right

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Starting qrunner for FreeBSD

2003-06-25 Thread John Michael Mars
There is not BSD specific documentation in there. I was thinking about
submitting a patch for anyone who wants it...

Basically, (I use OpenBSD), you need to set this stuff in /etc/rc.local
and /etc/rc.shutdown instead of /etc/rc.d/init.d. BSDs are BSDish. Linux
is SysVish. The layout of some of the file system (including config files)
is a bit different. Linux, being the most popular, is the one that
typically gets documented and BSDers just have to get to it themselves.

- JMM

On Wed, 25 Jun 2003, Amardeo Sarma wrote:

> Hi,
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> I am a newbie and running Mailman 2.1.1 on FreeBSD 4.7 / VPSv2, which works
> with the old technique of running qrunner every minute from cron. The INSTALL
> instructions give some hints on how to start the qrunner daemon at startup time
> (apparently the preferred mode for 2.1.x), but this seems geared to Linux. I
> would appreciate any hints on what the best solution for FreeBSD systems is.
>
> Amardeo.
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[Mailman-Users] thanks for mailman!

2003-06-25 Thread Francesco Ronzon - Circolo Culturale Oficina di Buenaventura
Yes, thank you.
We are using mailman to keep in touch with the 3000 members
of our non-profit private cultural center:
Circolo Culturale Buenaventura, Castelfranco Veneto, Italy

http://www.buenaventura.it/

feel free to cite our site in your presentation pages.

Thank you again

Francesco



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[Mailman-Users] how to set up just an information-list

2003-06-25 Thread Götz Reinicke
Hi,

what I want is to configure an existing list that way, that only the 
staff can post to it, but not the subscribed students themselves.

Is this the way to do this:

Add the staff by "Privacy options" -> "sender filters" -> "Non-member 
filters"

Set all students in the "Membership Management" -> "Membership List" to 
moderated and set "discard" for "member_moderation_action" in the 
"Privacy options".

Thanks for any tips and hints!

regards

Götz Reinicke

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