[Mailman-Users] TOS and a created elist....

2003-07-23 Thread schuetzen
where is a good place to insert a TOS for an elist??
seems to me it should be in the software itself..
perhaps not.  legally in my mind, it were best of tightly linked to the created
elist.

fwiw
chas

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[Mailman-Users] Uncaught Bounce Notifications w/ Auto Responder

2003-07-23 Thread Christine De La Rosa
Hello again,
 
I checked the archives but couldn't find anything that addressed this
particular issue.  I am on the latest release of mailman.
 
I have each of my lists set to send out and auto-responder
questionnaire.  Prior to the upgrade it used to be sent by
listname-owner, now it is being sent by listname-bounces, so when the
user hits reply to send back the questionnaire it is replying to
listname-bounces.  What this does is send the email back to the owner
with this in the subject line Uncaught bounce notification.  How do I
fix this?
 
Thanks
Christine
 
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[Mailman-Users] RE Postfix + Mailman - will not connect

2003-07-23 Thread Kristen Doyle
Please check if mailmanctl is running if it isnt cd into the mailman dir and
run bin/mailmanctl start this will start the master qrunner process. This is
the program that handles the mail from the MTA


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[Mailman-Users] airhead move - need to rebuild admin cgi

2003-07-23 Thread Beckie Pack
Oh I did something stupid. I was trying to put an .htaccess file in the 
cgi directory for Mailman and I accidently overwrote the admin file 
thinking I was putting the .htaccess file into a directory. Now it's 
gone.  Is there anyway to copy one somewhere or do I have to rebuild it?

Thanks,
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[Mailman-Users] Read Only List

2003-07-23 Thread Ed Whitcomb
Is there a way to make a read only list?  I've read
through the docs, but I didn't see anything about
that.

Thanks,

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman + Htdig integration

2003-07-23 Thread Richard Barrett
On Thursday, July 24, 2003, at 01:22 AM, Anar wrote:

Hi,

Thank you  Richard Barrett for your immediately answer.
I have fixed this error.
Now mailman working properly. But in Archive page no search forms.
May i edit some html codes?
The htdig integration patch will not do anything until the USE_HTDIG 
Mailman configuration variable is set to true in 
$prefix/Mailman/mm_cfg.py

The other htdig related MM configuration variables also need to be 
assigned in mm_cfg.py if the defaults set in Defaults.py do not match 
your system' setup.

Do not forget to use mailmanctl restart after making these changes.

Once USE_HTDIG is on then the first message to each list for which 
archiving is enabled will trigger:

1. the setup of the per-list htdig related setup for the list.

2. adding the search form to the list archive TOC page.

Even with the search form in place, the list will not be searchable 
until the nightly_htdig cron job has been run to build the list's htdig 
search databases. You can run this script from the command line to get 
things started.

If things do not work out like this then get back to me.

Do check out the notes under the heading "htdig Permissions 
Considerations" in INSTALL.htdig-mm as this can cause problems when 
htdig's  rundig script is run for the first time.

Thank you,
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Re[2]: [Mailman-Users] How to show name in the subscriber listmailman 2.1.2 ?

2003-07-23 Thread Abigail Marshall

>> The bad news is that the name is rendered as
>>
>> u'John DeCarlo'
>> u"Bill O'Grady"
>>

RB> This is because the name is a Unicode string.

RB> If you said this it might fix things:

RB> gotname = str(self.getMemberName(person))

Works for me - no "u"

Thanks,

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[Mailman-Users] Mailman + Htdig integration

2003-07-23 Thread Anar
Hi, 

Thank you  Richard Barrett for your immediately answer.
I have fixed this error.

Now mailman working properly. But in Archive page no search forms.
May i edit some html codes? 

Thank you,
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Re: [Mailman-Users] HTTP redirection

2003-07-23 Thread Hugh Caley
Ah, sorry, I didn't point out that I am referring to the domains behind 
our firewall, not on the Internet.

Hugh

Brad Knowles wrote:

Well, let's first look at the DNS.  Checking out the legacy name, 
I see:

% dig @a.gtld-servers.net. neomorphic.com. soa



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Re: [Mailman-Users] HTTP redirection

2003-07-23 Thread Brad Knowles
At 4:14 PM -0700 2003/07/23, Hugh Caley wrote:

 I've got a mailman installation in our legacy domain
 (mailman.neomorphic.com).  For polical reasons we'd like to have lists
 show up as being from the new domain (mailman.affymetrix.com).
	Sounds reasonable.

 We have
 a cname that points the new name to the old; the new name is set as the
 base URL for the Mailman web interface.
 It all works fine, except that we haven't been able to find a way to
 make going to URL http://mailman.affymetrix.com equivalent to going to
 http://mailman.affymetrix.com/mailman/listinfo; instead going to
 http://mailman.affymetrix.com redirects the user to
 http://mailman.neomorphic.com/mailman/listinfo, no matter what I do
 with apache config.
 Anyone know how I can get this to work?
	Well, let's first look at the DNS.  Checking out the legacy name, I see:

% dig @a.gtld-servers.net. neomorphic.com. soa

; <<>> DiG 9.2.2 <<>> @a.gtld-servers.net. neomorphic.com. soa
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 23289
;; flags: qr rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 2
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;neomorphic.com.IN  SOA
;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
neomorphic.com. 172800  IN  NS  ns3.emf.net.
neomorphic.com. 172800  IN  NS  ns.neomorphic.com.
;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
ns3.emf.net.172800  IN  A   205.149.0.21
ns.neomorphic.com.  172800  IN  A   205.217.46.66
;; Query time: 123 msec
;; SERVER: 192.5.6.30#53(a.gtld-servers.net.)
;; WHEN: Thu Jul 24 01:33:25 2003
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 106
% dig @ns.neomorphic.com. neomorphic.com. soa

; <<>> DiG 9.2.2 <<>> @ns.neomorphic.com. neomorphic.com. soa
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 53758
;; flags: qr aa rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 2
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;neomorphic.com.IN  SOA
;; ANSWER SECTION:
neomorphic.com. 36001   IN  SOA neomorphic.com. 
hostmaster.neomorphic.com. 2003052900 36001 3600 36 36001

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
neomorphic.com. 36001   IN  NS  roma.neomorphic.com.
neomorphic.com. 36001   IN  NS  ns3.emf.net.
;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
roma.neomorphic.com.36001   IN  A   205.217.46.66
ns3.emf.net.167930  IN  A   205.149.0.21
;; Query time: 207 msec
;; SERVER: 205.217.46.66#53(ns.neomorphic.com.)
;; WHEN: Thu Jul 24 01:34:16 2003
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 155
% dig @ns3.emf.net. neomorphic.com. soa

; <<>> DiG 9.2.2 <<>> @ns3.emf.net. neomorphic.com. soa
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 5756
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 2
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;neomorphic.com.IN  SOA
;; ANSWER SECTION:
neomorphic.com. 33017   IN  SOA neomorphic.com. 
hostmaster.neomorphic.com. 2003052900 36001 3600 36 36001

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
neomorphic.com. 137815  IN  NS  ns3.emf.net.
neomorphic.com. 137815  IN  NS  ns.neomorphic.com.
;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
ns3.emf.net.147103  IN  A   205.149.0.21
ns.neomorphic.com.  112152  IN  A   205.217.46.66
;; Query time: 208 msec
;; SERVER: 205.149.0.21#53(ns3.emf.net.)
;; WHEN: Thu Jul 24 01:33:53 2003
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 153
	So, right there, we see that the primary and the secondary are 
handing out slightly different answers for the nameservers for 
neomorphic.com -- ns.neomorphic.com and ns3.emf.net vs. 
roma.neomorphic.com and ns3.emf.net.  Also note that the secondary is 
not handing out authoritative answers (there's no "aa" bit set in the 
"flags:" field.  Moreover, ns3.emf.net is advertising itself as a 
public caching/recursive nameserver (the "ra" bit is set in the 
"flags:" field), which means that this machine is vulnerable to cache 
pollution/poisoning, and could be used as a vector to help break into 
your network more easily.

	Checking things with dnswalk, I see:

% dnswalk -ralF neomorphic.com.
Getting zone transfer of neomorphic.com. from ns3.emf.netfailed.
Getting zone transfer of neomorphic.com. from roma.neomorphic.comdone.
Checking neomorphic.com.
 teamsite.neomorphic.com. 36001: invalid character(s) in name
 teamsite.neomorphic.com. 36001 A 205.217.46.82: points to www.genomeathome.com
 firewall.neomorphic.com. 36001: invalid character(s) in name
 firewall.neomorphic.com. 36001 A 205.217.46.68: points to 
firewall.neomorphic.com

	So, while ns3.emf.net is an open public/recursive caching 
nameserver, they do appear to have zone transfers turned off.

	Let's look a bit further:

% dig @ns.neomorphic.com. mailman.neomorphic.com. any

; <<>> DiG 9.2.2 <<>> @ns.neomorphic.com. mailman.neomorphic.com. any
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;

[Mailman-Users] Postfix + mailman - will not connect

2003-07-23 Thread Peter Toft
Hi there

(sorry if repeated question; I have been in the README.POSTFIX, 
the archive for this month and the FAQ).

I just added a Red Hat 9 box with a home-build 
Postfix postfix-2.0.13 + a mailman-2.1-8 RPM fra Red Hat 9.
(I have also tried the 2.1.2 from Red Hat cooker)

My situation is that Postfix works fine - my own aliases in the 
mailman aliases file works fine, I can run add new mailman lists
with "newlist" - I can access the lists perfectly through the 
webinterface.

Note that the mail that should have been generated at the end of
me using "newlist" never ends at my place.


I have added this to mm_cfg.py
>>
DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'MYSERVER.dk'
DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'www.MYSERVER.dk'

DEFAULT_ADMIN_NOTIFY_MCHANGES = 1
DEFAULT_SUBSCRIBE_POLICY = 3

MTA = 'Postfix'
POSTFIX_ALIAS_CMD = '/usr/sbin/postalias'
POSTFIX_MAP_CMD = '/usr/sbin/postmap'

unknown_local_recipient_reject_code = 550
<<

Assume that I have made the list "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" with mailman.
using "newlist dudez [EMAIL PROTECTED] MY_SECRET_PASSWORD"
(I have checked the aliases-file is fine and the aliases.db-file is
generated)

My big problem is that if I write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I never 
get any reply - the same with [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Though the webinterface I have tried to invite my own email-address,
but no mails end at my place :-((

/var/log/mailman/error shows no errors when making a maillist
and trying to mail to it :-(

My maillog indicates that mails gets to the server
Jul 24 01:37:12 linuxforum postfix/local[19661]: 6C630271E3:
to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, relay=local, delay=0, status=sent
("|/var/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe dudez")

I have also checked that "Defaults.py" reads
 SMTPHOST = 'localhost'
 SMTPPORT = 0
 DELIVERY_MODULE = 'SMTPDirect'

My /etc/hosts also has
127.0.0.1   localhost

I can do "telnet localhost 25" and send an email.

My question to you is how to debug this?
I am stuck


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[Mailman-Users] HTTP redirection

2003-07-23 Thread Hugh Caley
I've got a mailman installation in our legacy domain 
(mailman.neomorphic.com).  For polical reasons we'd like to have lists 
show up as being from the new domain (mailman.affymetrix.com).  We have 
a cname that points the new name to the old; the new name is set as the 
base URL for the Mailman web interface. 

It all works fine, except that we haven't been able to find a way to 
make going to URL http://mailman.affymetrix.com equivalent to going to 
http://mailman.affymetrix.com/mailman/listinfo; instead going to 
http://mailman.affymetrix.com redirects the user to 
http://mailman.neomorphic.com/mailman/listinfo, no matter what I do with 
apache config.

Anyone know how I can get this to work?

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[Mailman-Users] administrative requests default action

2003-07-23 Thread Hal Huntley
I'm using Mailman 2.1.2 with Python 2.1.3 with Solaris 8.

I've seen a similar question on this list, but the answer was "get Mailman
2.1".

I have a list that gets more spam than legit email. I would like to have the
"Action to take on all these held messages" on the "admindb/" page
to have a default of "discard" instead of "defer". This way I can quickly
scan the "baddies" and then "submit all data" once I see they are all spam;
no clicking on the "Discard" radio button.

I don't want to use the Privacy Options -> Sender Filters option of:

 Action to take for postings from non-members for which no explicit action 
 is defined. 

to be "discard".  I know that the messages would come to me with the:

 Should messages from non-members, which are automatically discarded, be
 forwarded to the list moderator?

but I really don't want the messages automatically coming to me; I want the
member of my list to receive it if I click "Accept".

Right now, I also wish this behavior for one list only, not as a default for
all the lists that I have.

Thank you,

Hal Huntley
SRI International

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Passwords Q

2003-07-23 Thread Richard Barrett
On Wednesday, July 23, 2003, at 09:19 PM, Nyx Wolfwlaker wrote:

Greetings,

I've not been able to find the info, but I know its out there ... How 
can I send members
their password if they forget what it is?

Or how can they get their passwrod if they for get it?

They can get the system to send it to them from the 
/mailman/listinfo/ page.

Thanks take care,

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Re: [Mailman-Users] How to show name in the subscriber list mailman2.1.2 ?

2003-07-23 Thread Richard Barrett
On Wednesday, July 23, 2003, at 03:33 PM, John DeCarlo wrote:

Hello,

Thanks to Richard, I came up with an extremely crude patch to do what 
Rob asked for.

I modified the FormatUsers function in 
~mailman/Mailman/HTMLFormatter.py

At the end of this function there is a line:
got = Link(url, showing)
I changed it to be:
gotname = self.getMemberName(person)
got = Link(url, showing)
got = Container(got, '-', gotname)
And restarted Mailman.

The bad news is that the name is rendered as

u'John DeCarlo'
u"Bill O'Grady"
I don't know where the "u" comes from, but as I have said before, my 
Python skills are extremely crude.

This is because the name is a Unicode string.

If you said this it might fix things:

gotname = str(self.getMemberName(person))

Hope this helps.

Richard Barrett wrote:
On Tuesday, July 22, 2003, at 06:02 PM, John DeCarlo wrote:
Rob,

I can't help you with the web interface.  The cgi-bin programs are 
not plain text Python.  Presumably they are compiled code, binaries.

Not quite correct. The actual work of MM CGI programs is done by 
regular Python scripts located in $prefix/Mailman/Cgi

Rob Brandt wrote:

I was hoping for a subscriber's list function including names that 
could be
browsed from the listinfo page.  I've never really understood why 
it's not
there in the first place; I've never seen the usefulness of showing 
a
subscriber's list on listinfo containing only email addresses.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Passwords Q

2003-07-23 Thread Jon Carnes
On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 16:19, Nyx Wolfwlaker wrote:
> Greetings, 
> 
> I've not been able to find the info, but I know its out there ... How can I send 
> members 
> their password if they forget what it is? 
> 
> Or how can they get their passwrod if they for get it? 
> 
> Thanks take care, 
> 
> Nyx Wolfwalker

As long as you know the email address, you can use the listinfo page for
your list to have it send the user a password reminder.

Other than that, you can also do a dump of the database and read the
password which is stored in plain text.

Good Luck,

Jon Carnes


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[Mailman-Users] mass subscription

2003-07-23 Thread Rob Eckerson
I am just wondering if it is possible to 'cut out' a step in the subsccription 
process. I have 1,000's of opted in emails in a SQL database. These people have 
already said that they want to receive email from me. I can easily send them an email 
with a link to create a subscription email. But I don't want these people to have to 
go through the double opt in procedure. At least not until I can customize the subject 
line of the confirmation email. I am hoping to send out an invitation that all they 
have to do is respond  to it, and then they will receive the 'welcome' email from my 
list. Has anyone done something similar? I want to do this soon. The list has been 
active for 2 days and I already have over 500 subscribers. These people are also in my 
other database and therefore would receive an invite to a list that they already 
belong to.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Confusion with archives and mailman

2003-07-23 Thread Richard Barrett
On Wednesday, July 23, 2003, at 06:09 PM, Tom Crummey wrote:

Hello,

I'm having some problems with Mailman and archiving. I'm using Mailman  
2.1.2
on Solaris 8 with a Netscape webserver and sendmail.

The problems are:

1) Attachments with archived postings in private archives are not sent  
with
   the correct content-type header. Attachments in public archives are  
OK.
   I guess this is because the public ones are handled directly by the
   web server whereas the private ones pass through Mailman in some  
way.
   Does anyone know how to fix this?
Assuming you are using the internal pipermail archiver:

The only difference between private and public archives is that there  
is a symlink to $prefix/archives/private/ in  
$prefix/archives/public

Private archives are delivered by the script  
$prefix/Mailman/Cgi/private.py. This script uses the Python mimetypes  
module to determine the value of the Content-type: header rather than  
the contents of the mime.types file used by Apache.

The Python mimetypes module has an init() function for initializing its  
internal data structure with extra suffix to mime type mappings.

Try inserting the following line after line 23 of file  
$prefix/Mailman/Cgi/private.py, with the path to your Apache servers  
mime.types file, to see if that improves matters:

mimetypes.init(['/etc/httpd/mime.types'])

2) Private archives can be read by anyone who knows the correct URL.
   This is a permissions problem, but check_perms does not indicate
   any problems. Anyone any ideas on how to hide the private archives?
This is a web server setup issue. The only way that private archives  
should be accessible by the web server is via URI's begining  
/mailman/private. This invokes the $prefix/Mailman/Cgi/private.py  
script which challenges for user credentials and checks them.

What is the 'correct URL' you are referring to?

Thanks.

Tom.

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[Mailman-Users] Passwords Q

2003-07-23 Thread Nyx Wolfwlaker
Greetings, 

I've not been able to find the info, but I know its out there ... How can I send 
members 
their password if they forget what it is? 

Or how can they get their passwrod if they for get it? 

Thanks take care, 

Nyx Wolfwalker

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Re[2]: [Mailman-Users] How to show name in the subscriber listmailman 2.1.2 ?

2003-07-23 Thread Abigail Marshall
Hello John,

Wednesday, July 23, 2003, 7:33:14 AM, you wrote:

JD> Hello,

JD> Thanks to Richard, I came up with an extremely crude patch to do what 
JD> Rob asked for.

Just want to thank you for your script modification as well
- I also added this and it is working fine for me, but I do
get the "u". For debugging purposes, I'm running Python 2.2
on a FreeBSD system.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] addresses in archive

2003-07-23 Thread Todd
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Saurav Pathak wrote:
> my problem at the moment is with the archive.  i want to configure 
> the archive such that email addresses are mangled.  that is, 
> archives don't show "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" but
> "someone at somewhere dot com", or something like that.  
[...]
> mailman 2.0.13 
> redhat 8.0.  
> python 2.2.1

Mailman 2.1.2 does this by default (at least the first part, it changes the
@ to " at ").  2.0.13 had this set to false by default, but take a look in
Defaults.py for ARCHIVER_OBSCURES_EMAILADDRS.  I'm guessing that after you
change it you'll need to regenerate your archives, but I could be wrong
about that.

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[Mailman-Users] addresses in archive

2003-07-23 Thread Saurav Pathak
hi,

i must say first that i am very happy with mailman, which is
working great.  thanks to the developers.

my problem at the moment is with the archive.  i want to configure 
the archive such that email addresses are mangled.  that is, 
archives don't show "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" but
"someone at somewhere dot com", or something like that.  

i have been unable to find any documentation on this problem.  i
have looked at the mailman faq wizard, and have searched the
mailman-users archive.  i shall be very grateful for any help.

mailman 2.0.13 
redhat 8.0.  
python 2.2.1

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[Mailman-Users] Confusion with archives and mailman

2003-07-23 Thread Tom Crummey
Hello,

I'm having some problems with Mailman and archiving. I'm using Mailman 2.1.2
on Solaris 8 with a Netscape webserver and sendmail.

The problems are:

1) Attachments with archived postings in private archives are not sent with
   the correct content-type header. Attachments in public archives are OK.
   I guess this is because the public ones are handled directly by the
   web server whereas the private ones pass through Mailman in some way.
   Does anyone know how to fix this?
   
2) Private archives can be read by anyone who knows the correct URL.
   This is a permissions problem, but check_perms does not indicate
   any problems. Anyone any ideas on how to hide the private archives?
   
Thanks.


Tom.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] How to show name in the subscriber listmailman 2.1.2 ?

2003-07-23 Thread Rob Brandt
John;

Thanks for this!  And it works perfectly for me; no "u" at the beginning -
everything is printing out nicely.

Rob


Quoting John DeCarlo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Hello,
>
> Thanks to Richard, I came up with an extremely crude patch to do what
> Rob asked for.
>
> I modified the FormatUsers function in ~mailman/Mailman/HTMLFormatter.py
>
> At the end of this function there is a line:
>  got = Link(url, showing)
>
> I changed it to be:
>  gotname = self.getMemberName(person)
>  got = Link(url, showing)
>  got = Container(got, '-', gotname)
>
> And restarted Mailman.
>
> The bad news is that the name is rendered as
>
> u'John DeCarlo'
> u"Bill O'Grady"
>
> I don't know where the "u" comes from, but as I have said before, my
> Python skills are extremely crude.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Richard Barrett wrote:
> >
> > On Tuesday, July 22, 2003, at 06:02 PM, John DeCarlo wrote:
> >
> >> Rob,
> >>
> >> I can't help you with the web interface.  The cgi-bin programs are not
> >> plain text Python.  Presumably they are compiled code, binaries.
> >>
> >
> > Not quite correct. The actual work of MM CGI programs is done by regular
> > Python scripts located in $prefix/Mailman/Cgi
>
> >> Rob Brandt wrote:
> >>
> >>> I was hoping for a subscriber's list function including names that
> >>> could be
> >>> browsed from the listinfo page.  I've never really understood why
> >>> it's not
> >>> there in the first place; I've never seen the usefulness of showing a
> >>> subscriber's list on listinfo containing only email addresses.
>
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Re: [Mailman-Users] How to show name in the subscriber list mailman2.1.2 ?

2003-07-23 Thread John DeCarlo
Hello,

Thanks to Richard, I came up with an extremely crude patch to do what 
Rob asked for.

I modified the FormatUsers function in ~mailman/Mailman/HTMLFormatter.py

At the end of this function there is a line:
got = Link(url, showing)
I changed it to be:
gotname = self.getMemberName(person)
got = Link(url, showing)
got = Container(got, '-', gotname)
And restarted Mailman.

The bad news is that the name is rendered as

u'John DeCarlo'
u"Bill O'Grady"
I don't know where the "u" comes from, but as I have said before, my 
Python skills are extremely crude.

Hope this helps.

Richard Barrett wrote:
On Tuesday, July 22, 2003, at 06:02 PM, John DeCarlo wrote:

Rob,

I can't help you with the web interface.  The cgi-bin programs are not 
plain text Python.  Presumably they are compiled code, binaries.

Not quite correct. The actual work of MM CGI programs is done by regular 
Python scripts located in $prefix/Mailman/Cgi

Rob Brandt wrote:

I was hoping for a subscriber's list function including names that 
could be
browsed from the listinfo page.  I've never really understood why 
it's not
there in the first place; I've never seen the usefulness of showing a
subscriber's list on listinfo containing only email addresses.
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[Mailman-Users] Converting Listar/Ecartis Subscriber db to Mailman

2003-07-23 Thread Scot Mc Pherson
ANyone know how to do that?

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RE: [Mailman-Users] Strangenesses with URLs in the admin/listinfopages

2003-07-23 Thread -


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admin/listinfopages

I think you want to also set PUBLIC_ARCHIVE_URL.  See the comment in
Defaults.py.  I don't know if you have to recreate the archives or anything
after changing this.  Hopefully someone else will.  Or you can try it and
see.  You should restart the mailman service though, AFAIK.

There might be more on this in the archives too, now that you know to search
for PUBLIC_ARCHIVE_URL.

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That did it - thank you!  Now my mm_cfg.py looks like:
DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'domain.tld'
DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'www.domain.tld'
DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s:7080/mailman/'
MAILMAN_URL = 'http://www.domain.tld:7080/'
PUBLIC_ARCHIVE_URL = 'http://%(hostname)s:7080/pipermail/%(listname)s'
VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear()
add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST)

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Re: Apology/Retry Re: [Mailman-Users] passwords, confirmation emails, clunky web interfaces, and my grandmother

2003-07-23 Thread John DeCarlo
David,

David Hunt wrote:

The company that hosts my website is running Mailman 2.1.2 (recently
upgraded), and although they do fine for normal questions, I don't really
think they're Mailman "experts".  As for myself, I already know the options
available in Mailman's web interface and understand most of them (I think).
I have read what documentation I could find - which only amounted to the
expanded explanations of those options.  My questions boil down to:
1. Can you run a list without having passwords assigned to the subscribers
at all?  From the responses I've received, I'm guessing that it really can't
be done (there's a feature suggestion), but I think I can come up with some
workarounds, like the one suggested by Howard in
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2003-July/030023.html.
As far as I know, the answer is "no".  Try not to worry about it .

2. How can I change the confirmation and welcome emails?  I still want them,
but I want them to be completely different, not just with text added using
that option.  I've found this post from Todd
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2003-June/029473.html - which
may help, except I can't find these folders in Mailman's web interface, and
I'm not sure how to access them otherwise.
What you can do, since you don't have shell access to change the files 
directly, is ask the hosting company to put your own files in the 
directory just for your own list(s).  The URL you note has the info you 
require, namely:

# 1. the list-specific language directory
#lists//
Swear to the hosting company that this will not affect any other list. 
Remind them that ~mailman/lists/ exists, but they have to 
create the subdirectory for the language, presumably for you "en".

As to exactly what files you want to change, it might be easier for you 
to try an install on your own Linux machine and look at all the text 
files in ~mailman/templates/en because you may want to end up changing a 
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