[Mailman-Users] Hide list address?

2003-09-25 Thread Ricardo Kleemann
Hi,

Is there any way to configure Mailman such that, for an
announcement-only type list, when a message is sent to the
list, the To: shows the member's address, rather than the
list address?

Some list software allows the ability to hide the list
address itself, so that address is not advertised.

I couldn't find any configuration specific to that.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] how to disable html editing?

2003-09-25 Thread Todd
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Rae wrote:
> I would like to remove the option for the "Edit the public HTML pages" in 
> the administration area. Where can I find this to comment it out?

$ grep -rl "Edit the public HTML pages" ~mailman/
/var/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.pyc
/var/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py

Edit the .py file (it might be in a different location depending on what you
set $prefix to when installing, the default is /usr/local/mailman, IIRC).
Remove or comment out these lines:

otherlinks.AddItem(Link(mlist.GetScriptURL('edithtml'),
_('Edit the public HTML pages')))

That will get rid of the link.  If you don't want any admins to be able to
be able to edit the pages even if they know the URL, then you should remove
~mailman/cgi-bin/edithtml.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] how to disable html editing?

2003-09-25 Thread Rae
To answer my own question...

You need to hack the Mailman/Cgi/admin.py file, comment out the following:

otherlinks.AddItem(Link(mlist.GetScriptURL('edithtml'),
'Edit the HTML for the public list pages'))
Also remove the mailman/cgi-bin/edithtml binary (or rename it to keep it 
but disable it).

Best wishes,
Rae
At 06:15 PM 9/25/2003, you wrote:
I would like to remove the option for the "Edit the public HTML pages" in 
the administration area. Where can I find this to comment it out?

TIA

Best wishes,
Rae


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[Mailman-Users] how to disable html editing?

2003-09-25 Thread Rae
I would like to remove the option for the "Edit the public HTML pages" in 
the administration area. Where can I find this to comment it out?

TIA

Best wishes,
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[Mailman-Users] moving large archive

2003-09-25 Thread Rae
Hello,

I'm transferring lists from one server to another. A couple lists have 
extremely large archives and while running the bin/arch command it faults 
with a memory error (see below). Additionally, the same thing happens when 
I run it with the unlimit command. I've even increased the size of the 
server disk space. Same result. Does anyone know how I can solve this? Or 
how to take the listname.mbox apart to eliminate old messages? Or any other 
workable solution?

TIA

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Updating index files for archive [2001-June]
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "bin/arch", line 187, in ?
main()
  File "bin/arch", line 177, in main
archiver.close()
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/pipermail.py", line 304, in close
self.update_dirty_archives()
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/pipermail.py", line 518, in 
update_dirty_archives
self.update_archive(i)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/HyperArch.py", line 1038, in 
update_archive
self.__super_update_archive(archive)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/pipermail.py", line 421, in 
update_archive
self.__set_parameters(archive)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/pipermail.py", line 336, in 
__set_parameters
firstdate = self.database.firstdate(archive)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/HyperDatabase.py", line 209, 
in firstdate
self.__openIndices(archive)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/HyperDatabase.py", line 240, 
in __openIndices
self.__closeIndices()
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/HyperDatabase.py", line 265, 
in __closeIndices
index.close()
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/HyperDatabase.py", line 187, 
in close
fp.write(marshal.dumps(self.dict))
MemoryError

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[Mailman-Users] Mailbox does not exist

2003-09-25 Thread Merle Reine
I am getting the following error in /var/log/mail:

Sep 25 15:20:49 mail postfix/pipe[29441]: 5C42712278: 
to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, relay=cyrus, delay=0, 
status=bounced (data format error. Command output: staff-request: Mailbox 
does not exist )

I have mailman 2.1.1-91 and I am using postfix.  I am on SuSe Open 
Exchange server and the lists were working before but now seem to be 
giving me errors.  I have added hash:/var/lib/mailman/data/aliases to 
/etc/postfix/main.cf and ran postalias /var/lib/mailman/data/aliases .  I 
also put the contents of /var/lib/mailman/data/aliases in the /etc/aliases 
file .  I still get no such mailbox.  Yes, I created the staff list.  Any 
ideas?
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: Wrapper Not Working

2003-09-25 Thread Todd
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SoloCDM wrote:
> Does anyone know the solution to the rpm build at the Segmentation
> fault below?
>
> rpm -bb --clean --target=i586 mailman.spec
> Building target platforms: i586
> Building for target i586
> Executing(%prep): /bin/sh -e /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.45549
> +rpm-tmp.45549 line 19: umask 022
> +rpm-tmp.45549 line 20: cd /usr/src/RPM/BUILD
> +rpm-tmp.45549 line 21: cd /usr/src/RPM/BUILD
> +rpm-tmp.45549 line 22: rm -rf mailman-2.0.13
> +rpm-tmp.45549 line 23: /usr/bin/bzip2 -dc 
> /usr/src/RPM/SOURCES/mailman-2.0.13.tar.bz2
> +rpm-tmp.45549 line 23: tar -xf -
> +rpm-tmp.45549 line 24: STATUS=0
> +rpm-tmp.45549 line 25: '[' 0 -ne 0 ']'
> +rpm-tmp.45549 line 28: cd mailman-2.0.13
> ++rpm-tmp.45549 line 1: /usr/bin/id -u
> +rpm-tmp.45549 line 29: '[' 0 = 0 ']'
> +rpm-tmp.45549 line 29: /bin/chown -Rhf root .
> ++rpm-tmp.45549 line 1: /usr/bin/id -u
> +rpm-tmp.45549 line 30: '[' 0 = 0 ']'
> +rpm-tmp.45549 line 30: /bin/chgrp -Rhf root .
> +rpm-tmp.45549 line 31: /bin/chmod -Rf a+rX,g-w,o-w .
> +rpm-tmp.45549 line 32: echo 'Patch #0 
> (mailman-buildroot-check.patch.bz2):'
> Patch #0 (mailman-buildroot-check.patch.bz2):
> +rpm-tmp.45549 line 33: /usr/bin/bzip2 -d
> +rpm-tmp.45549 line 33: patch -p1 -b --suffix .buildroot -s
> /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.45549: line 33: 14253 Done
> /usr/bin/bzip2 -d 
>   14254 Segmentation fault  | patch -p1 -b --suffix .buildroot -s
> Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.45549 (%prep)

I can't tell for sure if it's bombing on the unzipping of the patch or the
application of the patch, though it looks like it's the former.  I think
there should be a c option in addition to the -d for the bzip2 command if
it's piping the output directly to patch, but that's just a guess since I
don't know what the spec file is actually doing.

You might want to try a newer RPM from whatever vendor you're trying to
build this on.  And while you're at it, I'd spend the time to build Mailman
2.1.2 instead of the rather old 2.0.13.  There are many useful improvements
in 2.1.2.  If there isn't an RPM for your platform (that builds cleanly),
it's really straightforward to build Mailman from tarballs.  Plus, you can
then be more sure that you've done everything required to make it work with
your setup instead of hoping that the RPM packager did it right.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] restricting subscriptions

2003-09-25 Thread nate
> Sometimes an announcement-only type of list needs also to be
> configured such that it restricts subscription, meaning that
> only an approved person (e.g. administrator) can actually
> add members to the subscription list.
> 
> Is that at all possible with MM ?

Yes!

> Is it possible to hold subscription requests?

Yes!

In Mailman 2.1.X take a look at the "Privacy Options" page, specifically
the "subscribe_policy".  One can require approval which effectively
holds the subscription until approved or declined.

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[Mailman-Users] restricting subscriptions

2003-09-25 Thread Ricardo Kleemann
Hi,

Sometimes an announcement-only type of list needs also to be
configured such that it restricts subscription, meaning that
only an approved person (e.g. administrator) can actually
add members to the subscription list.

Is that at all possible with MM ?

Is it possible to hold subscription requests?

Ricardo

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Wrapper Not Working

2003-09-25 Thread Todd
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SoloCDM wrote:
>- Transcript of session follows -
> Failure to exec script. WANTED gid 65534, GOT gid 12.  (Reconfigure
> to take 12?)
> 554 5.3.0 unknown mailer error 2
[...]
> Where did I go wrong?

You need to reconfigure mailman to use the proper mail-gid.  This is a FAQ
and is covered in the Mailman installation documentation pretty clearly.
I'd suggest (re-)reading that documentation.

http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.004.htp

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[Mailman-Users] unknown mailer error/list not found

2003-09-25 Thread John Harrold
i'm having trouble with a mailing list. the command 'list_lists' shows the
list. my aliases file has the following:

list-name "|/path/mailman/mail/mailman post list-name"

i can view, configure, subscribe to mailing lists through the web interface.

when i send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] i get the following delivery
failure:

The original message was received at Thu, 25 Sep 2003 11:52:53 -0400
from localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]

   - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -
"|/pagh/mailman/mail/mailman post list-name"
(reason: 1)
(expanded from: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)

   - Transcript of session follows -
post script, list not found: list-name
554 5.3.0 unknown mailer error 1

[-- Attachment #2 --]
[-- Type: message/delivery-status, Encoding: 7bit, Size: 0.4K --]

Reporting-MTA: dns; computer  
Received-From-MTA: DNS; localhost.localdomain
Arrival-Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 11:52:53 -0400

Final-Recipient: RFC822; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
X-Actual-Recipient: X-Unix; |/path/mailman/mail/mailman post list-name
Action: failed
Status: 5.0.0
Diagnostic-Code: X-Unix; 1
Last-Attempt-Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 11:52:53 -0400

can anyone offer a reason for this?


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[Mailman-Users] Help for a problem with digests

2003-09-25 Thread Kevin . L . Teuscher
I am subscribed to a list that uses Mailman and I have requested digest
messages, but the digests are all messed up because the messages run
together as in the following excerpt [note that I have rewritten addresses
and ip for this post]:

Digest excerpt--
> |   XANSYS - www.xansys.org  |
> |  List hosted by PADT: www.padtinc.com  |
>
^--From
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Sep 22 13:222:19 2003
Received: from somwhere.com (somewhere.com
[xxx.xxx.xxx.xx])
by xansys.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h8MKMFH6008928
End of Digest excerpt--

As you can see, the "From" line from the next message continues on the last
line of the previous msg.  Because of this problem the digest will only list
say 3 subjects at the top of the digest, when in reality there may be 25
msgs in the digest.  

Any suggestions that I can pass on to the list admin?

Thanks,
Kevin

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Re: [Mailman-Users] monster created! untangling many lists with many subscribers?

2003-09-25 Thread morna findlay
We're running mailing lists for one school within a university.  The 
school has
several hundred subscribers (personnel) split amongst faculty, staff and
students, a number of different institutes and programs, all spread over 6
different geographic locations.  There are members of each institute at each
location.  There are members of each program at each location, and within each
institute.  Each location, institute and program has faculty, staff, 
and students.

We have been asked to create a list for essentially every different 
permutation;
 all faculty, all faculty at location A, all faculty at location A 
in program B,
all faculty at location A in institute B and program C, all staff ... you get
the point.
We keep several hundred lists up to date by sourcing the membership 
of each list from our school database. There's enough info in the 
database to figure out, for example

- a list of students taking each module
- a list of staff responsible for each module
- a list of staff in each location
- a list of staff on each grade
and so on and so on.

In other words - we can create and keep up to date dozens of lists 
that no-one will ever use :-)

We then use CVS to send updates from the database in the form of 
files to the mailman server, and use the  "sync_members" command to 
update the membership every night thus:

#!/bin/sh
#
#Update mailman list memberships from flat files
#
PATH=
export PATH
export elistdir=/elists
export elistdir
for i in `ls $elistdir  `; do
echo $i
/bin/sync_members   -w=no -a=no -f 
$elistdir/$i $i
done



It's a bit clunky but it works fine.

The main problem is - moderating the dratted lists.

You seriously don't want to have to do that yourself. Not even to start with!

My advice is to give each group of lists a list-owner and send mail 
for that list-owner to a shared mailbox and let local admin staff get 
on with the moderation duties.

cheers!
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[Mailman-Users] Mailman Demo

2003-09-25 Thread Dave Peraza
Is there a Mailman Demo anywhere?

dave
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[Mailman-Users] New artice on Mike's Notebook - Making the CGI interface of Mailman 2.1.2 work (almost) properly on an Apache WWW server using webhop and port redirection (both features of dyndns.org)

2003-09-25 Thread Michael W.Cocke

Sorry for the massive crosspost, but this particular article should be
interesting to all of you, in one way or another.  The article -

Making the CGI interface of Mailman 2.1.2 work (almost) properly on an
Apache WWW server using webhop and port redirection (both features of
dyndns.org)

- has just been posted to Mikes Notebook -
http://www.catherders.com/Notebook-Mike/notebook-tech.html


**  To those of you subscribed to mailing lists hosted on
catherders.com, the web interface is working again. 

Mike-

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