Re: [Mailman-Users] Dynamic subscriber lists

[Ralf Hildebrandt]

* Chris Barnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
 
> I need a MLM that can make an LDAP query and get all of the "faculty",
> then send the message out.  It needs to do this for EVERY message for
> that list.

We do this by generating the lists using a scripts and taking the
output from the DB (we use a M$ DB, but the same can be done using
LDAP, e.g using ldapsearch)

Since the data doesn't change that often, an update cycle of once or
twice a day is ok.

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[Mailman-Users] Problems Setting Up 'Announce' Type List

[Hunter Hillegas]

I have setup a list that I intend to use as an 'announce' list.

I setup the list so that new users are moderated by default.

Personalization is set to 'Yes'.

A 'Sender Filter' is setup to 'Reject' from moderated useres and I have some
text in there to send when they try to post.

My first test sender is set with 'mod' enabled.

When I send a message from that account I do not get the block text sent
back... The message comes through on the account that sent it but none of
the other accounts get the message.

So, that seems wrong.

Also, when I post from an account that is not moderated I see the same
behavior. The message comes through on the account that I sent it from but
the other list members don¹t get the message... The archives show as empty.

So, somehow things ain't right.

I'm running 2.1.1

Any advice??

TIA,
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[Mailman-Users] mailman 2.1.4 problem

[Ako Ito]

hello gurus,
encountered this problem below in one of my mailing list.. any ideas on how to resolve 
this?

thanks
Bug in Mailman version 2.1.4

We're sorry, we hit a bug!
If you would like to help us identify the problem, please email a copy of this page to 
the webmaster for this site with a description of what happened. Thanks! 

Traceback:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/adb/data/pkg/mailman/2.1.3/scripts/driver", line 87, in run_main
main()
  File "/adb/data/pkg/mailman/2.1.3/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py", line 198, in main
show_results(mlist, doc, category, subcat, cgidata)
  File "/adb/data/pkg/mailman/2.1.3/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py", line 498, in show_results
form.AddItem(membership_options(mlist, subcat, cgidata, doc, form))
  File "/adb/data/pkg/mailman/2.1.3/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py", line 870, in 
membership_options
all = [_m.encode() for _m in mlist.getMembers()]
UnicodeError: ASCII decoding error: ordinal not in range(128)






Python information:
  Variable Value 
  sys.version 2.2.2 (#1, Feb 24 2003, 19:13:11) [GCC 3.2.2 20030222 (Red Hat Linux 
3.2.2-4)]  
  sys.executable /usr/bin/python  
  sys.prefix /usr  
  sys.exec_prefix /usr  
  sys.path /usr  
  sys.platform linux2  






Environment variables:
  Variable Value 
  HTTP_REFERER   
  SCRIPT_FILENAME  /adb/data/pkg/mailman/2.1.3/cgi-bin/admin  
  PYTHONPATH  /adb/data/pkg/mailman/2.1.3  
  SERVER_SOFTWARE  Apache/2.0.48 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.0.48 OpenSSL/0.9.7b PHP/4.3.4  
  SERVER_ADMIN
  SCRIPT_NAME  /mailman/admin  
  SERVER_SIGNATURE  Apache/2.0.48 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.0.48 OpenSSL/0.9.7b PHP/4.3.4 
Server at intraweb.asiandevbank.org Port 80 
  REQUEST_METHOD  GET  
  HTTP_HOST
  PATH_INFO  /waterforallnews/members  
  SERVER_PROTOCOL  HTTP/1.1  
  QUERY_STRING   
  REQUEST_URI  /mailman/admin/waterforallnews/members  
  HTTP_ACCEPT  */*  
  HTTP_USER_AGENT  Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1)  
  HTTP_CONNECTION  Keep-Alive  
  HTTP_COOKIE  watersports+admin=; adbalumni+admin=; homemakers+admin=; 
swrc+admin=; gis+admin=; 
waterforallnews+admin=2802006925141f4073280064306434613337636262623662323134653837376366376665653134303239333637373562626263
  
  SERVER_NAME
  REMOTE_ADDR   
  REMOTE_PORT  4079  
  HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE  en-us  
  PATH_TRANSLATED  /adb/apps/pkg/apache/2.0.48/htdocs/waterforallnews/members  
  SERVER_PORT  80  
  GATEWAY_INTERFACE  CGI/1.1  
  HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING  gzip, deflate  
  SERVER_ADDR   
  DOCUMENT_ROOT  /adb/apps/pkg/apache/2.0.48/htdocs  

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[Mailman-Users] subscribing per email

[Ken Adcock]

This is probably such a basic question that it didn't make it into the  
documentation. If someone wants to subscribe per email to my list at  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] what do they write in the email? I tried  
"subscribe" in the subject line, but the admin settings though that the  
person wanted to submit a POST. Can you help?
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Re: [Mailman-Users] help with cron message from mailman

[Brad Knowles]

At 10:37 AM -0500 2004/02/02, Chason Hayes wrote:

 I get this message and don't know what to do with it. I have
 browsed the source code and tracked it down to a lack of a
 definition of the variable mailman in the Defaults.py file
 but am not sure what to do about it. I don't run a mailing
 list on this server. Please help
	See 
. 
Note that 
 
and 
 
may also be of interest.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] monthly mailings

[Brad Knowles]

At 2:50 PM +0200 2004/02/02, Aryeh Ross wrote:

 Hi is there a way in mailman to have an automatic monthly mailings?
	Mailman already sends out a monthly mailing.  Anything else can 
be automated through tools like "cron".

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[Mailman-Users] RE: [SUY-87166]: mailing list errors

[Brad Knowles]

At 3:57 PM -0500 2004/02/01, Barbara Martinez wrote:

 Internal Server Error
 The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was
 unable to complete your request.
	Sounds like a problem with your web server.  What's in your logs? 
Have you contacted your vendor to see if they can help?
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Re: [Mailman-Users] help

[Brad Knowles]

At 10:28 PM +0100 2004/02/01, Elena Galli wrote:

 I need to know if it is possible to translate all the contents of
 the mail and instructions of your program.
 In fact, i would like to write all the text in Italian.
	See .

	In particular, talk to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, and see their 
local web page at 
.

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[Mailman-Users] Re: RE: Period Mailings; Like Birthday Announcements using Mailmail

[Paul H Byerly]

nb wrote:
you can simple write a cron that sends mail to your list announcing the
birthdays or whatever, but, as Paul Byerly says you can do a script for that
purpose. It will be more usefull for sure.
 Maybe someone can give me a hint here on my attempt to do this by 
modifying edithtml.py.  I can add files to what that script will edit just 
fine.  Thing is I want to have a separate edit list for each list.  I 
copied and renamed edithtml.py but it's not found by my server, and a pyc 
file is not generated.  I assume I am missing a registration data base 
someplace?

<>< Paul - wondering why his last attempt to send this was incompleat.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] RE: [SUY-87166]: mailing list errors

[Todd]

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Hash: SHA1

Barbara Martinez wrote:
> I'm having trouble accessing my mailing list all of a s udden.
>
> When I go to 
> http://barbaramartinez.com/mailman/admin/fans_barbaramartinez.com I
> get this message:
>
> Internal Server Error
> The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was
> unable to complete your request.  Please contact the server
> administrator, [EMAIL PROTECTED] and inform them of the
> time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may
> have caused the error.
>
> More information about this error may be available in the server
> error log.
>
>
> Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to
> use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.
>
> This is the first time I get an error like this and I need to access
> my list ASAP!

Sounds like your web host broke something.  That's who you'd need to
contact to get it resolved.

Oddly enough, it's another cPanel host.  There's apparently no end to
the ways those folks try to make Mailman look bad.  ;-)

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[Mailman-Users] moderated, read-only list, pending queue numbers

[Dean Karres]

Hi,

I have just installed MailMan 2.1.1.  I have been testing it for a
couple of days and am pretty happy so far.  This morning though
something happened that concerns me a little.

My test list is moderated.  It is as read-only as I can figure out how
to make it.  *All* postings to the list are moderated, even the list
owner & moderator's messages are moderated.

I have been sending various test messages to my list.  As the moderator 
I get moderation alert messages in return.  The list of messages to
moderate all have numbers from 1...N.  So, I have been moderating the 
test messages and have sent one last one.  I return to the "Tend to
pending moderator requests" page from previous tests and just hit 
reload.

Instead of refreshing the display and showing me the new message pending
moderation, it appears as though it applied the "accept" operation for
the previous request.  My test message went out to the list technically
unmoderated.

Ok, I don't know the underlying mechanism so I'm making a WAG here.
I am assuming that each pending message gets a queue number based on 
it's arrival order in the current, unmoderated queue.  If this is the 
case, is there a way to change this number to a monotonically increasing
integer [i.e. a unique message number] for each message instead of
resetting the numbers to "1" each time?

I'm guessing that this might prevent the page-reload / apply the last
operation on this unsuspecting message problem.

Dean...K...

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[Mailman-Users] Problem

[Nuno Mariano]

Hi there,

 

I’ve a problem with Mailman that i‘ll try to describe:



I’m owner and moderator of one list, when someone post a mail,
approval is needed but if nothing is done in 48 hours the mail is
automatically sent to the list.

 

I’ve search documentation, FAQ’s, mailing lists but I didn’t find anything
about this situation. Can someone help me?

 

Thanks,



Nuno Mariano

Serviço de Informática

Hospital São Sebastião S.A.- Santa Maria da Feira

Tel.: +351 256 379 700 Ext. 1224

 

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[Mailman-Users] monthly mailings

[Aryeh Ross]

Hi is there a way in mailman to have an automatic monthly mailings?

Thank you
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[Mailman-Users] docs missing

[Anton Melser]

Hi,
Does anyone know what has happened to the list admin docs?
http://staff.imsa.edu/~ckolar
seems to give errors and no docs!
Cheers
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[Mailman-Users] help

[Elena Galli]

I need to know if it is possible to translate all the contents of the mail and 
instructions of your program.
In fact, i would like to write all the text in Italian.
thank you very much
Yours sincerely
Elena Galli
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[Mailman-Users] RE: [SUY-87166]: mailing list errors

[Barbara Martinez]

Hi,

I'm having trouble accessing my mailing list all of a s udden.

When I go to 
http://barbaramartinez.com/mailman/admin/fans_barbaramartinez.com I get this 
message:

Internal Server Error
The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable 
to complete your request.
Please contact the server administrator, [EMAIL PROTECTED] and 
inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done 
that may have caused the error.

More information about this error may be available in the server error log.

Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an 
ErrorDocument to handle the request.

This is the first time I get an error like this and I need to access my list 
ASAP!

Thanks,
Bárbara
BÁRBARA MARTÍNEZ
+1 917 940 9211
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www.barbaramartinez.com
Original Message Follows
From: "Hush Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [SUY-87166]: mailing list errors
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 06:48:50 -0800
== Please reply above this line ==
mailing list errors
Hello,

Thank you for contacting Lunar Pages support.

Full details of the MailMan mail list software can be found at: 
http://www.list.org/

Specifically, error message details are available at:
http://staff.imsa.edu/~ckolar/mailman/
This second link is for the documentation for List Administrators and is 
maintained outside of the MailMan offical website (list.org) but can be 
found on their documentation page.

I hope this information is helpful.

Lunar Pages Community Support Forums: http://www.lunarforums.com
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[Mailman-Users] memory error in admindb.py

[Andrew Watson]

Upon going to my list admin interface to tend to admin chores, i got 
the following page:

Bug in Mailman version 2.0.7

We're sorry, we hit a bug!

Please inform the webmaster for this site of this problem.  Printing 
of traceback and other system information has been explicitly 
inhibited, but the webmaster can find this information in the Mailman 
error logs.

Upon looking in the logs, I find the following:

Feb 02 11:32:07 2004 admin(21028): 
admin(21028): [- Mailman Version: 2.0.7 -]
admin(21028): [- Traceback --]
admin(21028): Traceback (most recent call last):
admin(21028):   File "/usr/local/mailman/scripts/driver", line 96, in run_main
admin(21028): main()
admin(21028):   File "../Mailman/Cgi/admindb.py", line 114, in main
admin(21028): text = doc.Format(bgcolor="#ff")
admin(21028):   File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/htmlformat.py", line 
286, in Format
admin(21028): output.append(Container.Format(self, indent))
admin(21028):   File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/htmlformat.py", line 
258, in Format
admin(21028): output.append(HTMLFormatObject(item, indent))
admin(21028):   File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/htmlformat.py", line 
44, in HTMLFormatObject
admin(21028): return item.Format(indent)
admin(21028):   File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/htmlformat.py", line 
361, in Format
admin(21028): output = output + Container.Format(self, indent+2)
admin(21028):   File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/htmlformat.py", line 
259, in Format
admin(21028): return string.join(output, '')
admin(21028):   File "/usr/local/lib/python2.2/string.py", line 136, in join
admin(21028): return sep.join(words)
admin(21028): MemoryError
admin(21028): [- Python Information -]
admin(21028): sys.version= 2.2.3 (#1, Jul  2 2003, 15:45:27)
[GCC 2.95.3 20010315 (release) [FreeBSD]]
admin(21028): sys.executable = /usr/local/bin/python
admin(21028): sys.prefix = /usr/local
admin(21028): sys.exec_prefix= /usr/local
admin(21028): sys.path   = /usr/local
admin(21028): sys.platform   = freebsd4
admin(21028): [- Environment Variables -]

--there follows a lot of environment variables which i could provide 
if they are helpful--

Can anyone provide any insight on this?
Without the admin interface, my list is in a coma.
There are 173 held messages in the folder mailman/data/
The list was working fine as of friday 1/30.
So far as i know, I have not modified anything in the last few days 
that might have caused this problem.
(I know I should be running a more recent version, but i am at the 
mercy of my ISP (verio)).

-Andrew

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[Mailman-Users] help with cron message from mailman

[Chason Hayes]

I get this message and don't know what to do with it. I have browsed the 
source code and tracked it down to a lack of a definition of the 
variable mailman in the Defaults.py file but am not sure what to do 
about it. I don't run a mailing list on this server. Please help

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Dynamic subscriber lists

[Luc Brouard]

On Mon, Feb 02, 2004 at 09:16:53PM +0100, Brad Knowles wrote:
> At 12:09 PM -0600 2004/02/02, Chris Barnes wrote:
> 
> > This is a repost of a question I asked last week.  NOBODY replied - even
> > just to say "can't be done".
> 
>   Speaking only for myself, if I am silent on an advanced technical 
> issue, that usually means that I have no clue how the problem might 
> be solved.
> 
> > I am considering using a real MLM to manage the mailling lists we use
> > within our department.   However, one of the requirement for this is
> > that the product must be able to get is subscriber list from our LDAP
> > (OpenLDAP 3) information store.
> >
> > For example, in LDAP there is an attribute for each user that tells us
> > whether they are "faculty", "staff", "grad", or "undergrad"  (there are
> > others, but this works for the example).
> >
> > I need a MLM that can make an LDAP query and get all of the "faculty",
> > then send the message out.  It needs to do this for EVERY message for
> > that list.
> 
>   I'm quite certain that the current version of Mailman does not 
> support alternative back-end databases, whether SQL or LDAP or 
> whatever.  I do not know of any mailing list package that can use 
> LDAP as a back-end, although there are some that can use SQL (e.g., 
> Lyris, which is an expensive commercial package).

I think that sympa can do LDAP.

Just switch from it, because there were no command line scripts out of
the box.

Luc

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Dynamic subscriber lists

[John DeCarlo]

Chris,

I haven't seen anyone accomplish the dynamic, per message, requirement 
you have stated.

However, I have seen posts on this list about people who run some sort 
of query nightly (or perhaps twice a day or so) to generate files like 
"faculty" in the right format.  Then they run ~mailman/bin/sync_members 
to take care of any changes that may have happened in the last time period.

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[Mailman-Users] Installation problem /mailman/create inaccessible...

[Hsiao-lung Chang]

Hi, first time using mailman.

I'm getting 404 error when attempting to access /mailman/create for the
first time.
I'm using OpenBSD 3.4 and mailman-2.1.2p0.tgz package.
The httpd process is running as www, what create is expecting.
But it doesn't even seem like its able to find the file?
Here's a diff between the original httpd.conf and the modified for
Mailman.
Am I missing anything else?

Thanks.
514,517d513
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< # Mailman
< Alias /pipermail/ "/var/spool/mailman/archives/public/"
< 
553,562d548
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< 
< # Mailman
< ScriptAlias /mailman/ "/usr/local/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/"
< 
< 
<   AllowOverride None
<   Options None
<   Order allow,deny
<   Allow from all



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[Mailman-Users] supporting all ``available_languages''?

[Graham Guttocks]

Greetings,

I'm running MM 2.1.x.  Every time a new point release is
made, it seems a few more languages are added.  I then have
to go into the web interface for each list, and click those 
new checkboxes under the ``available_languages'' section.

Is there some mm_cfg.py variable I've missed which says
essentially ``support all available languages'' so that when
new languages are added, they just automatically are picked up?


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Dynamic subscriber lists

[Brad Knowles]

At 12:09 PM -0600 2004/02/02, Chris Barnes wrote:

 This is a repost of a question I asked last week.  NOBODY replied - even
 just to say "can't be done".
	Speaking only for myself, if I am silent on an advanced technical 
issue, that usually means that I have no clue how the problem might 
be solved.

 I am considering using a real MLM to manage the mailling lists we use
 within our department.   However, one of the requirement for this is
 that the product must be able to get is subscriber list from our LDAP
 (OpenLDAP 3) information store.
 For example, in LDAP there is an attribute for each user that tells us
 whether they are "faculty", "staff", "grad", or "undergrad"  (there are
 others, but this works for the example).
 I need a MLM that can make an LDAP query and get all of the "faculty",
 then send the message out.  It needs to do this for EVERY message for
 that list.
	I'm quite certain that the current version of Mailman does not 
support alternative back-end databases, whether SQL or LDAP or 
whatever.  I do not know of any mailing list package that can use 
LDAP as a back-end, although there are some that can use SQL (e.g., 
Lyris, which is an expensive commercial package).

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Changing post held message

[Saurav Pathak]

Thus spake Saurav Pathak:

+  Hi,
+  
+  I wish to change the post held message for only one of the mailing
+  list.  How may I do that?  If I changed the text in the file 
+  (mailman directory)/templates/en/postheld.txt
+  I will have changed it for all mailing lists.  Which I don't want to
+  do.

This part of the question was previously answered here.  I apologize
for repeating the question.
http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg17818.html

saurav

+  
+  Also, I pre-process mails using procmail.  Different recipes add
+  different headers to the mail, which are then used to filter the 
+  mails.  How may I send out different messages to posters for 
+  different header flags?  For example one header is "X-IsSpam: yes"
+  and another is "X-IsVirus: yes".  I use these headers to filter the
+  messages in mailman.  I would like different messages to go out to
+  the posters for these two different flags. 
+  
+  I am using Mailman 2.1.1 from the Redhat 9 distribution. 
+  
+  Thanks for your help.
+  
+  saurav
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Dynamic subscriber lists

[Todd]

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Chris Barnes wrote:
> I am considering using a real MLM to manage the mailling lists we
> use within our department.   However, one of the requirement for
> this is that the product must be able to get is subscriber list from
> our LDAP (OpenLDAP 3) information store.
>
> For example, in LDAP there is an attribute for each user that tells
> us whether they are "faculty", "staff", "grad", or "undergrad"
> (there are others, but this works for the example).
>
> I need a MLM that can make an LDAP query and get all of the
> "faculty", then send the message out.  It needs to do this for EVERY
> message for that list.
>
>
> Can MailMan do this?

Not out of the box.  You might want to take a look at the work Martin
Whinnery did on an LDAP member adaptor to see if it can do what you
want.  If it's close, you might be able to help improve it so that
others can benefit from it.

http://webserver.offal.homelinux.org/LDAPMemberAdaptor/V2.1/LDAPMemberAdaptor/index.html

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Dynamic subscriber lists

[Simon White]

02-Feb-04 at 12:09, Chris Barnes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote :
> This is a repost of a question I asked last week.  NOBODY replied - even
> just to say "can't be done".

Maybe nobody has a setup like that already, so they have nothing to say.
"Can't be done" is usually a phrase in the open source world that would
never be said. Nothing is impossible with source open for you, you could
even interface Mailman to your toaster. Not out of the box though :-)

> I need a MLM that can make an LDAP query and get all of the "faculty",
> then send the message out.  It needs to do this for EVERY message for
> that list.

AFAIK, the Mailman subscribers are stored in an internal database. In
order to get something working you'd probably have to hack your own
Python code. I might be wrong about that, but it can't be too hard to
get LDAP and Python working together.

I don't know where the dev is going where using an LDAP or SQL DB to
keep data is concerned. Apparently Sympa has an SQL backend which may or
may not be easier to hack.

Otherwise you can use the tools add_members and sync_members to keep a
sync between an external LDAP query tool in any language and the Mailman
DB. Getting query output to look like a plain text list of email
addresses to STDOUT shouldn't be too hard.

Without making some provision yourself for some kind of hacking, it
can't directly be done with Mailman, or with any other tools that I can
think of 'off the shelf'. You might get away with just an MTA with LDAP
and some kind of group aliasing hack (à la Postfix+LDAP aliases) too,
that depends on your list management requirements.

The difficulty with Mailman or any other mailing list tool is that
subscribes and unsubscribes have to be intelligently handled, so you'd
have to add flags (unsubscribe) to your LDAP queries, etc. If you don't
need to worry so much about subscriptions, because you're sending bulk
announcements in an education or corporate environment, then you don't
need all the complexity of Mailman, (digests, unsubscribes and
moderation + bounce processing to name the main ones off the top of my
head). You just need aliases to groups determined, most probably, by a
single LDAP query, see my comment about LDAP and Postfix for example.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Memory error when running arch

[Jon Carnes]

Unfortunately the arch program is not optimized for real-world use and
tries to load the whole mbox archive into RAM.  Not a clever thing to
do.  One day we'll have to re-write it so that it is less memory
intensive.  For now you can try using the arbitrary numbering scheme to
run the arch program - and split the task into several smaller ones, or
you can edit your mbox archive and dump some of the earlier emails.

I like to copy off the mbox at the end of the year and start from a
fresh one in January.  I generally have my archives set so that  they do
a monthly grouping.  Once you cross into the new month, there is no
reason to keep the older emails from younger months - just don't delete
the html archives for those months.

Take care - Jon Carnes

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> Hello James,
>  
> On Fri Jul 27 14:51:49 EDT 2001  You posted the message: [Mailman-Users] Memory 
> error when running arch.
>  
> Actually, I have exactly the same problem.
>  
> My OS is Solaris 9 on a Sunblade V100 server with 1 GB RAM.
>  
> Did you receive a response at your problem ?
>  
> Thanks and have a nice day
>  
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[Mailman-Users] Re: RE: Period Mailings; Like Birthday Announcements using Mailmail

[Paul H Byerly]

nb wrote:
you can simple write a cron that sends mail to your list announcing the
birthdays or whatever, but, as Paul Byerly says you can do a script for that
purpose. It will be more usefull for sure
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[Mailman-Users] Changing post held message

[Saurav Pathak]

Hi,

I wish to change the post held message for only one of the mailing
list.  How may I do that?  If I changed the text in the file 
(mailman directory)/templates/en/postheld.txt
I will have changed it for all mailing lists.  Which I don't want to
do.

Also, I pre-process mails using procmail.  Different recipes add
different headers to the mail, which are then used to filter the 
mails.  How may I send out different messages to posters for 
different header flags?  For example one header is "X-IsSpam: yes"
and another is "X-IsVirus: yes".  I use these headers to filter the
messages in mailman.  I would like different messages to go out to
the posters for these two different flags. 

I am using Mailman 2.1.1 from the Redhat 9 distribution. 

Thanks for your help.

saurav

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[Mailman-Users] Dynamic subscriber lists

[Chris Barnes]

This is a repost of a question I asked last week.  NOBODY replied - even
just to say "can't be done".

*
I am considering using a real MLM to manage the mailling lists we use
within our department.   However, one of the requirement for this is
that the product must be able to get is subscriber list from our LDAP
(OpenLDAP 3) information store.

For example, in LDAP there is an attribute for each user that tells us
whether they are "faculty", "staff", "grad", or "undergrad"  (there are
others, but this works for the example).

I need a MLM that can make an LDAP query and get all of the "faculty",
then send the message out.  It needs to do this for EVERY message for
that list.


Can MailMan do this?
If not, is there a MLM that can?

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[Mailman-Users] (no subject)

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Newlist for virtual host

[Dirk Försterling]

John Poltorak wrote:
>
> It looks as though I need to do something with add_virtualhost in
> mm_cfg.py but I haven't quite figured it out yet.
>
In short, you might have this in mind:

DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'mydom.org'
DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'www.mydom.org'
add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST)


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Newlist for virtual host

[John Poltorak]

On Mon, Feb 02, 2004 at 11:47:00AM +0100, Dirk Försterling wrote:
> John Poltorak wrote:
> > 
> > How do I go about creating a new list for a virtual host?
> > 
> > I know I can specify the listname as [EMAIL PROTECTED] and this works 
> > fine for the web interface but 
> 
> Do you mean specifying "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" as "Name of List" on the
> mailman/create page?

I'm using the command line script - newlist.

It looks as though I need to do something with add_virtualhost in 
mm_cfg.py but I haven't quite figured it out yet.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Newlist for virtual host

[Dirk Försterling]

John Poltorak wrote:
How do I go about creating a new list for a virtual host?

I know I can specify the listname as [EMAIL PROTECTED] and this works 
fine for the web interface but 
Do you mean specifying "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" as "Name of List" on the
mailman/create page?
  -dirk

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[Mailman-Users] SOLVED: How to purge correctly old messages ?

[BERTHOLD Jean]

Hello John,

I tried your command line and now it is ok.

I tried different solutions for editing large file under vi:

1. Add swap file (it is not working)
2. modify temporary storage for vi: set directory=/... (it is not working)
3. split my big file in several files it is the best solution

[EMAIL PROTECTED] # split -b 50m etrans-echanges.mbox 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] # ls -l x*
-rw-r--r--   1 mailman  mailman  52428800 Feb  1 15:30 xaa
-rw-r--r--   1 mailman  mailman  52428800 Feb  1 15:24 xab
-rw-r--r--   1 mailman  mailman  52428800 Feb  1 15:24 xac
-rw-r--r--   1 mailman  mailman  52428800 Feb  1 15:24 xad
-rw-r--r--   1 mailman  mailman  52428800 Feb  1 15:25 xae
-rw-r--r--   1 mailman  mailman  52428800 Feb  1 15:25 xaf
-rw-r--r--   1 mailman  mailman  52428800 Feb  1 15:25 xag
-rw-r--r--   1 mailman  mailman  52428800 Feb  1 15:25 xah
-rw-r--r--   1 mailman  mailman65510 Feb  1 15:56 xai
-rw-r--r--   1 mailman  mailman  52428800 Feb  1 15:25 xaj
-rw-r--r--   1 mailman  mailman  52428800 Feb  1 15:25 xak
-rw-r--r--   1 mailman  mailman  52428800 Feb  1 15:25 xal
-rw-r--r--   1 mailman  mailman  52428800 Feb  1 15:26 xam
-rw-r--r--   1 mailman  mailman  1810704 Feb  1 15:26 xan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] # 

After this split command it was possible to remove what I want.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] # cat xai xaj xak xal xam xan > TMP.mbox


[EMAIL PROTECTED] # du -sh *mbox
 202M   TMP.mbox
 652M   etrans-echanges.mbox
[EMAIL PROTECTED] # 

and mv TMP to etrans...

[EMAIL PROTECTED] # ../bin/arch --wipe etrans-echanges
...
...
...
Updating HTML for article 2604
Updating HTML for article 2605
Updating HTML for article 2606
Updating HTML for article 2607
Updating HTML for article 2608
Updating HTML for article 2609
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "../bin/arch", line 187, in ?
main()
  File "../bin/arch", line 177, in main
archiver.close()
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/pipermail.py", line 304, in close
self.update_dirty_archives()
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/pipermail.py", line 518, in 
update_dirty_archives
self.update_archive(i)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/HyperArch.py", line 1032, in update_archive
self.__super_update_archive(archive)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/pipermail.py", line 426, in update_archive
self._update_thread_index(archive, arcdir)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/pipermail.py", line 480, in 
_update_thread_index
self.update_article(arcdir, article, a1, a3)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/HyperArch.py", line 1223, in update_article
f.write(article.as_html())
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/HyperArch.py", line 426, in as_html
lang=self._lang, mlist=self._mlist)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/HyperArch.py", line 195, in quick_maketext
return Utils.uncanonstr(text, lang)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Utils.py", line 758, in uncanonstr
u = unicode(s, charset)
MemoryError


Do you have an idea about this error ?

if I run my browser, only the two latest day of February are dislplayed:

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Les Archives de Etrans-Echanges
vous pouvez obtenir plus d' informations à propos de cette liste ou vous pouvez  
télécharger les archives complètes ( 212 MB ). 

Archive Vue par: Version téléchargeable 
2 February 2004: [ Thread ] [ Sujet ] [ Auteur ] [ Date ]  [ Gzip'd Text 2 KB ] 
1 February 2004: [ Thread ] [ Sujet ] [ Auteur ] [ Date ]  [ Gzip'd Text 24 KB ] 


however I kept archives from 20031031 (31 October 2003) to 2 February 2004.
I would like to display all messages between these dates...


Are my files too big ? 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] # du -sh etrans*
1015M   etrans-echanges
 203M   etrans-echanges.mbox
[EMAIL PROTECTED] # 



Thnks again

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-Message d'origine-
De : John DeCarlo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Envoyé : jeudi, 29. janvier 2004 16:07
À : BERTHOLD Jean
Cc : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Objet : Re: [Mailman-Users] How to purge correctly old messages ?


Jean,

BERTHOLD Jean wrote:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] # pwd
> /usr/local/mailman/archives/private/etrans-echanges.mbox
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] # ls -l
> total 1327072
> -rw-rw-r--   1 mailman  mailman  679109463 Jan 29 14:40 etrans-echanges.mbox
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] # vi etrans-echanges.mbox   
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] # vi etrans-echanges.mbox
> "etrans-echanges.mbox" Tmp file too large

>> You can also try and figure out which message in the mbox file you want 
>> to start archiving (instead of deleting them from the file) and run
>> 
>>   .../bin/arch --start=N --wipe etrans-echange
>> 
>> At least this should get you started.

I didn't pay very close attention to t

[Mailman-Users] Memory error when running arch

[BERTHOLD Jean]

Hello James,
 
On Fri Jul 27 14:51:49 EDT 2001  You posted the message: [Mailman-Users] Memory error 
when running arch.
 
Actually, I have exactly the same problem.
 
My OS is Solaris 9 on a Sunblade V100 server with 1 GB RAM.
 
Did you receive a response at your problem ?
 
Thanks and have a nice day
 
 
Jean Berthold
 
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jean.berthold  @eosholding.ch
 
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[Mailman-Users] Newlist for virtual host

[John Poltorak]

How do I go about creating a new list for a virtual host?

I know I can specify the listname as [EMAIL PROTECTED] and this works 
fine for the web interface but I'm not sure how to make the email address  
of the list to be [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Any hints would be appreciated.


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