[Mailman-Users] qmail VERP

[Jason Parsons]

I have installed the Qmail Handler from  
.  I installed the  
handler by copying it to $prefix/Mailman/Handlers/Qmail.py.  I have the  
following in my mm_cfg.py:

DELIVERY_MODULE = 'Qmail'
QMAIL_CMD = '/var/qmail-lists/bin/qmail-inject'
DO_QMAIL_VERP = 1
QMAIL_LOG_SUCCESS = 1
QMAIL_LOG_FAILURE = 1
QMAIL_LOG_EVERY_MESSAGE = 1
.. however, outgoing messages are not VERPed.  Any ideas what I might  
be missing?

I am very familiar with qmail, not as familiar with mailman, and I have  
read the archives, for what it's worth.  ;)

Thank you.
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[Mailman-Users] virtualhost and "list creator" password?

[Jason Parsons]

I'm using the add_virtualhost directive to create multiple mailman 
virtual hosts.  I've been unable to find the answer to one issue, 
though:

Is it possible to give assign an owner/password for each virtual host, 
allowing that owner to create/delete lists on that virtual host without 
having rights to any other virtual host?  The only thing I find is 
mmsitepass, which seems to apply globally.

Any pointers appreciated.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Upgrading from mailman-2.1.2-44 to mailman-2.1.4-1

[Charles A. Crayne]

On Sun, 7 Mar 2004 19:16:19 -0500
David Kramer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

:So I'm having some minor problems with mailman, and my server's too stable
:these days, so I thought I would upgrade some of my software to make my
:life more interesting ;)  This is on SuSE 9.0 Professional.

I just did the same thing, except that I was at 2.0.13 on RedHat 8.

:- If I do an rpm -Uvh to upgrade, will it move all the data to the new 
:location and remove the sharp whirring bits from /usr/lib/mailman and
:/var/lib/mailman?

I built it from the source rpm, before doing the rpm -U, and everything
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[Mailman-Users] Upgrading from mailman-2.1.2-44 to mailman-2.1.4-1

[David Kramer]

So I'm having some minor problems with mailman, and my server's too stable 
these days, so I thought I would upgrade some of my software to make my life 
more interesting ;)  This is on SuSE 9.0 Professional.

I found an RPM on rpm.pbone.net for mailman-2.1.4-1.  I did an rpm -ql to list 
the files in it and noticed that mailman-2.1.4-1 has all of the sharp 
whirring bits under /var/mailman, while 2.1.2 has the program-related files 
under /usr/lib/mailman, and the list/data files under /var/lib/mailman.  This 
may be because the new one is designed for Fedora, but I could not find one 
for SuSE 9.0 later than 2.12.

- If I do an rpm -Uvh to upgrade, will it move all the data to the new 
location and remove the sharp whirring bits from /usr/lib/mailman and /var/
lib/mailman?

- Can I copy the list data to someplace safe, remove mailman, install the new 
mailman, and drop my data files into the new location and just have 
everything work?  Is there some "list of lists" that would need to get 
tweaked so the sharp whirring bits know where to whir?

Disclaimer- I know my second question is _close_ to something in the FAQ, but 
not quite the same.

Thanks in advance.

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[Mailman-Users] What generates the index.html?

[David Kramer]

I run about eight mailman lists on my server. I noticed that the archive files 
are being created, but the index.html file that links to the monthly archives 
is not being generated, so there were only links to older months.  What 
process is supposed to generate these?  There must be some cron entry or 
other that I'm missing. /etc/cron.d/mailman has:
0 8 * * * mailman /usr/bin/python -S /usr/lib/mailman/cron/checkdbs
0 9 * * * mailman /usr/bin/python -S /usr/lib/mailman/cron/disabled
0 12 * * * mailman /usr/bin/python -S /usr/lib/mailman/cron/senddigests
0 5 1 * * mailman /usr/bin/python -S /usr/lib/mailman/cron/mailpasswds
0,5,10,15,20,25,30,35,40,45,50,55 * * * * mailman /usr/bin/python -S /usr/lib/
mailman/cron/gate_news
27 3 * * * mailman /usr/bin/python -S /usr/lib/mailman/cron/nightly_gzip
57 3 * * * mailman /usr/bin/python -S /usr/lib/mailman/cron/nightly_archives

When I try to run nightly_archives by hand, it says "No archives to process.".  
I noticed that the script attempts to open mm_cfg.EDITED_ARCHIVES_FILE, but 
no such file exists on my system.  Is mailman supposed to create/update that 
file whenever a list gets a post?

Background:  Suse 9.0 Professional, mailman-2.1.2-44.

First post to the list; sorry if this has been covered.


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[Mailman-Users] Re: htmls back to txt.gz

[Daniel Ajoy]

Has someone parsed html archives and generated an mbox file?

Daniel



On 6 Mar 2004 at 20:48, Jon Carnes wrote:

> I would hope that somebody has done this.  I laid the ground work for it
> a long time back with my published exploits with one client. 
> Unfortunately I no longer have the notes on that job. I do remember it
> being fun but very time-consuming.
> 
> Good luck - Jon Carnes
> 
> On Sat, 2004-03-06 at 17:58, Daniel Ajoy wrote:
> > Hi Jon,
> > 
> > Yes exactly. Hasn't the process been automated?
> > 
> > Daniel
> > 
> > 
> > On 6 Mar 2004 at 16:14, Jon Carnes wrote:
> > 
> > > > Hi,
> > > > 
> > > > I have list that does not have the txt.gz file available for a year.
> > > > 
> > > > Is there a way to create it?
> > > > 
> > > > Is there a way to convert the already generated html pages into a txt.gz
> > > > file that is missing?
> > > > 
> > > > Daniel
> > > > 
> > > Daniel, I've parsed html archives and generated an mbox file from those
> > > before. It's a very time-consuming task.
> > > 
> > > Is that perchance what you are talking about?
> > > 


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Trouble with newlist

[Jon Carnes]

At the command line type launch the Python interpretor:
 python

   # in the python interpretor:
   import os
   dir(os)

Look in this lengthy list for fsync.

Tell us what version of Python you are using, and you might want to
cut/past the output of the "dir(os)" command.

On my systems, "help(os.fsync)" returns:
  Help on built-in function fsync:
 
  fsync(...)
  fsync(fildes) -> None
  force write of file with filedescriptor to disk.
  (END)

Note: you have to "import os" before you can look at its built-in
functions

This is looking like a problem with the Python install.

Jon Carnes

On Sun, 2004-03-07 at 12:39, Steve Pirk wrote:
> Nope... Upgraded python from the 2.3.3 source, and
> I still get this when I add a list... bummer.
> 
> Hit enter to notify mailman owner...
> 
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "bin/newlist", line 219, in ?
> main()
>   File "bin/newlist", line 212, in main
> msg.send(mlist)
>   File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Message.py", line 233, in send
> self._enqueue(mlist, **_kws)
>   File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Message.py", line 244, in _enqueue
> reduced_list_headers = 1,
>   File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Switchboard.py", line 133, in
> enqueue
> os.fsync(msgfp.fileno())
> AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'fsync'
> 
> 
> --
> Steve
> 
> On Sun, 7 Mar 2004, Steve Pirk wrote:
> 
> > I am using Slackware 9.1 (fresh install) Here is the
> > version on python:
> > Python 2.3.1 (#1, Sep 24 2003, 16:45:45)
> >
> > Maybe I will do a fresh install of the latest version.
> > Could be that the included one is fubar'd. It is the
> > latest stable version of MM. I used to run an older
> > version, but it was lost in the disk crash. :-)
> > --
> > Steve
> >
> > On Sun, 7 Mar 2004, Richard Barrett wrote:
> >
> > > On 7 Mar 2004, at 10:16, Steve Pirk wrote:
> > >
> > > > After a supposedly clean install of the latest mailman,
> > > > I get this error when adding a list (even the initial
> > > > mailman list):
> > > >
> > > > Traceback (most recent call last):
> > > >   File "bin/newlist", line 219, in ?
> > > > main()
> > > >   File "bin/newlist", line 212, in main
> > > > msg.send(mlist)
> > > >   File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Message.py", line 233, in send
> > > > self._enqueue(mlist, **_kws)
> > > >   File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Message.py", line 244, in _enqueue
> > > > reduced_list_headers = 1,
> > > >   File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Switchboard.py", line 133, in
> > > > enqueue
> > > > os.fsync(msgfp.fileno())
> > > > AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'fsync'
> > > >
> > >
> > > This looks as though something is wrong with your python installation
> > > as you are being told that the function fsync in the standard os module
> > > cannot be found.
> > >
> > > What OS are you running and which version of OS, Python and Mailman?
> > > Have you ckecked compatibility in the MM installation and upgrading
> > > files.
> > >
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Re: [Mailman-Users] inserting fields into a message

[Jamie Penman-Smithson]

On Mon, 2004-02-16 at 05:58, E Publisher wrote:
> Hi, 
> 
> I've installed mailman to use as a mailing list (as opposed a
> discussion list) and I want to do something similar to what can be done
> in, say, Outlook when sending bulk emails and merging in data fields.
> 
> Specifically, I want mailman to automatically insert the subscriber's
> email address into the body or footer of my message. Is it possible to
> insert a field in this way?

You need to enable full personalisation for your mailing list, you'll
find it in the web admin interface.

Next time, take a quick look at the archives, there have been plenty of
threads on this exact subject.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Trouble with newlist

[Steve Pirk]

Nope... Upgraded python from the 2.3.3 source, and
I still get this when I add a list... bummer.

Hit enter to notify mailman owner...

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "bin/newlist", line 219, in ?
main()
  File "bin/newlist", line 212, in main
msg.send(mlist)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Message.py", line 233, in send
self._enqueue(mlist, **_kws)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Message.py", line 244, in _enqueue
reduced_list_headers = 1,
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Switchboard.py", line 133, in
enqueue
os.fsync(msgfp.fileno())
AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'fsync'


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On Sun, 7 Mar 2004, Steve Pirk wrote:

> I am using Slackware 9.1 (fresh install) Here is the
> version on python:
> Python 2.3.1 (#1, Sep 24 2003, 16:45:45)
>
> Maybe I will do a fresh install of the latest version.
> Could be that the included one is fubar'd. It is the
> latest stable version of MM. I used to run an older
> version, but it was lost in the disk crash. :-)
> --
> Steve
>
> On Sun, 7 Mar 2004, Richard Barrett wrote:
>
> > On 7 Mar 2004, at 10:16, Steve Pirk wrote:
> >
> > > After a supposedly clean install of the latest mailman,
> > > I get this error when adding a list (even the initial
> > > mailman list):
> > >
> > > Traceback (most recent call last):
> > >   File "bin/newlist", line 219, in ?
> > > main()
> > >   File "bin/newlist", line 212, in main
> > > msg.send(mlist)
> > >   File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Message.py", line 233, in send
> > > self._enqueue(mlist, **_kws)
> > >   File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Message.py", line 244, in _enqueue
> > > reduced_list_headers = 1,
> > >   File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Switchboard.py", line 133, in
> > > enqueue
> > > os.fsync(msgfp.fileno())
> > > AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'fsync'
> > >
> >
> > This looks as though something is wrong with your python installation
> > as you are being told that the function fsync in the standard os module
> > cannot be found.
> >
> > What OS are you running and which version of OS, Python and Mailman?
> > Have you ckecked compatibility in the MM installation and upgrading
> > files.
> >

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Trouble with newlist

[Steve Pirk]

I am using Slackware 9.1 (fresh install) Here is the
version on python:
Python 2.3.1 (#1, Sep 24 2003, 16:45:45)

Maybe I will do a fresh install of the latest version.
Could be that the included one is fubar'd. It is the
latest stable version of MM. I used to run an older
version, but it was lost in the disk crash. :-)
--
Steve

On Sun, 7 Mar 2004, Richard Barrett wrote:

> On 7 Mar 2004, at 10:16, Steve Pirk wrote:
>
> > After a supposedly clean install of the latest mailman,
> > I get this error when adding a list (even the initial
> > mailman list):
> >
> > Traceback (most recent call last):
> >   File "bin/newlist", line 219, in ?
> > main()
> >   File "bin/newlist", line 212, in main
> > msg.send(mlist)
> >   File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Message.py", line 233, in send
> > self._enqueue(mlist, **_kws)
> >   File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Message.py", line 244, in _enqueue
> > reduced_list_headers = 1,
> >   File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Switchboard.py", line 133, in
> > enqueue
> > os.fsync(msgfp.fileno())
> > AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'fsync'
> >
>
> This looks as though something is wrong with your python installation
> as you are being told that the function fsync in the standard os module
> cannot be found.
>
> What OS are you running and which version of OS, Python and Mailman?
> Have you ckecked compatibility in the MM installation and upgrading
> files.
>
> > and I never recieve confirmation, and the lists does not work:
> > Mar  7 01:52:45 mail sm-mta[7671]: i279qjAg007669:
> > to="|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman",
> > ctladdr=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > (2/0), delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=prog, pri=30685,
> > dsn=5.0.0,
> > stat=Service unavailable
> > Mar  7 01:52:45 mail sm-mta[7671]: i279qjAg007669: i279qjAg007671: DSN:
> > Service unavailable
> >
> > Any ideas?
> > -- Steve
>

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RE: [Mailman-Users] error: user unknown

[Brendan Chard]

This happened to me and the problem was that, in my virtual hosting
environment, I had a catch-all virtmap setup for the domain I wanted to use
that went to a non-existent user.  I placed that virtmap on my server
because I wanted mail that wasn't addressed properly to be returned to the
sender.

When an e-mail goes into a server with virtual hosts, the virtmaps
(virtusertable) file is read first, then the aliases.  So make sure you
don't have a catchall set up that returns mail or stops it from getting to
your alias entries.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jon Carnes
Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 3:59 PM
To: ??
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] error: user unknown

On Sat, 2004-03-06 at 03:23, ?? wrote:
> Hi,
> My description maybe not very clear.
> The problem I met is that I can not post message to my mail list.
> I sent a mail to my list via the email server B, then I got a error
message,
> "there was not such a user" from B.
> At the same time, Mailman can send me message, such as "welcome join this
> mail list", "you created a mail list successfully" etc.
> I installed Sendmail 8.12.10 and Mailman 2.1.4 on the same machine.
> So the problem is the Mailman can send mails but it can't receive mail.
> 
Check out FAQ 3.14. This sounds like a classic case of the aliases not
being added.

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[Mailman-Users] (no subject)

[Josh]

Hi,

I am not sure what setting to change to fix this issue. Our e-mail
attachments are not going through when I e-mail the list.

Thanks,
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Re: [Mailman-Users] problems with the mail hostname

[Richard Barrett]

On 6 Mar 2004, at 15:20, Guillaume Rousse wrote:

I'm having troubles with the name used by mailman for sending mails: 
it keeps using the real hostname, whereas it is configured for using 
an alias.

I have this setting in mm_cfg.py:
DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST  = 'lists.zarb.org'
DEFAULT_URL_HOST= 'lists.zarb.org'
add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST)
All list configuration says also host_name is lists.zarb.org, all URLs 
are OK, but it keep sending mails as @katu3.zarb.org, instead of 
@lists.zarb.org. What is wrong there ?
The following FAQ entry may explain some other things you need to do:

http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq04.029.htp

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RE: [Mailman-Users] problems with the mail hostname

[Brendan Chard]

I also had this problem and in trying a bunch of solutions, including double
checking my entries, and recreating the list.  But I also created a MX
record for the sub domain of lower priority than the primary domain and an
entry for the sub-domain in my /etc/hosts file.  Then, a few hours later,
like magic, everything started working.

Is an MX record for the sub-domain mailmain wants to use also required or
was this just a fluke?

-Brendan

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Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 4:11 PM
To: Guillaume Rousse
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Barry Warsaw
Subject: [Mailman-Users] problems with the mail hostname

On Sat, 2004-03-06 at 10:20, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
> I'm having troubles with the name used by mailman for sending mails: it 
> keeps using the real hostname, whereas it is configured for using an
alias.
> 
> I have this setting in mm_cfg.py:
> DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST  = 'lists.zarb.org'
> DEFAULT_URL_HOST= 'lists.zarb.org'
> add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST)
> 
> All list configuration says also host_name is lists.zarb.org, all URLs 
> are OK, but it keep sending mails as @katu3.zarb.org, instead of 
> @lists.zarb.org. What is wrong there ?

This is also in the FAQ, you may have created the list before completing
your setup... in fact, you may have completed your setup as a result of
troubleshooting the first couple of lists that you created.

Once a list is created it is standalone and incorporates  most of the
current defaults as individual values within the list's configuration
files. Unfortunately Barry has hidden this particular attribute and no
longer displays it in the WebAdmin. You will have to manually modify
those defaults by using the commandline Mailman tool "withlist".

You will find examples for howto use Withlist inside the application,
you will also find examples in the FAQ.

Barry: could we make this a *Displayed* value for a list - even if you
do not want to make it a editable value in the 2.1.x series. Perhaps we
could make the Web-admin list creation have two boxes to define a lists
address:
 - a box for the list_name
 - a drop down box that makes folks choose their "virtual domain". Or if
only one domain is available, then just show the current domain it will
use.

Jon Carnes


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Trouble with newlist

[Richard Barrett]

On 7 Mar 2004, at 10:16, Steve Pirk wrote:

After a supposedly clean install of the latest mailman,
I get this error when adding a list (even the initial
mailman list):
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ bin/newlist mailman
Enter the email of the person running the list: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Initial mailman password:
To finish creating your mailing list, you must edit your /etc/aliases 
(or
equivalent) file by adding the following lines, and possibly running 
the
`newaliases' program:

## mailman mailing list
mailman:  "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman"

Hit enter to notify mailman owner...

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "bin/newlist", line 219, in ?
main()
  File "bin/newlist", line 212, in main
msg.send(mlist)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Message.py", line 233, in send
self._enqueue(mlist, **_kws)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Message.py", line 244, in _enqueue
reduced_list_headers = 1,
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Switchboard.py", line 133, in
enqueue
os.fsync(msgfp.fileno())
AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'fsync'
This looks as though something is wrong with your python installation 
as you are being told that the function fsync in the standard os module 
cannot be found.

What OS are you running and which version of OS, Python and Mailman? 
Have you ckecked compatibility in the MM installation and upgrading 
files.

and I never recieve confirmation, and the lists does not work:
Mar  7 01:52:45 mail sm-mta[7671]: i279qjAg007669:
to="|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman",
ctladdr=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
(2/0), delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=prog, pri=30685, 
dsn=5.0.0,
stat=Service unavailable
Mar  7 01:52:45 mail sm-mta[7671]: i279qjAg007669: i279qjAg007671: DSN:
Service unavailable

Any ideas?
-- Steve


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Re: [Mailman-Users] error/success log

[Richard Barrett]

On 7 Mar 2004, at 12:02, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Greets,
Is there anybody in mailman a error/success log or something else, 
where i can see, which mails where send correct and which not?

Mailman logs to various log files in $installation-prefix/logs/ the 
post, smtp and error logs are most likely to be of interset to you

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[Mailman-Users] error/success log

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Title: error/success log






Greets,

Is there anybody in mailman a error/success log or something else, where i can see, which mails where send correct and which not?


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscribing with email interface without confirmation

[Jamie Penman-Smithson]

On Mon, 2004-02-16 at 16:32, Mariano Wahlmann wrote:
> How can i subscribe users without email confirmation (like mass
> subscription in the web interface)? (i'm list manager).

Funnily enough there's a 'Mass Subscribe' page in mailman's
administrative interface, where you'll find you're given the option to
send invite/subscribe, and whether to send welcome messages.

-j

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[Mailman-Users] Trouble with newlist

[Steve Pirk]

After a supposedly clean install of the latest mailman,
I get this error when adding a list (even the initial
mailman list):

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ bin/newlist mailman
Enter the email of the person running the list: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Initial mailman password:
To finish creating your mailing list, you must edit your /etc/aliases (or
equivalent) file by adding the following lines, and possibly running the
`newaliases' program:

## mailman mailing list
mailman:  "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman"


Hit enter to notify mailman owner...

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "bin/newlist", line 219, in ?
main()
  File "bin/newlist", line 212, in main
msg.send(mlist)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Message.py", line 233, in send
self._enqueue(mlist, **_kws)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Message.py", line 244, in _enqueue
reduced_list_headers = 1,
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Switchboard.py", line 133, in
enqueue
os.fsync(msgfp.fileno())
AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'fsync'

and I never recieve confirmation, and the lists does not work:
Mar  7 01:52:45 mail sm-mta[7671]: i279qjAg007669:
to="|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman",
ctladdr=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
(2/0), delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=prog, pri=30685, dsn=5.0.0,
stat=Service unavailable
Mar  7 01:52:45 mail sm-mta[7671]: i279qjAg007669: i279qjAg007671: DSN:
Service unavailable

Any ideas?
-- Steve

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