[Mailman-Users] Re: footers

2004-03-24 Thread Boris Folgmann
jsingh schrieb:
>  When I send an attachement, why does the footer come as an attachement if I
> use rich text or html format?  what do I need to do for the footer to appear
> normally at the end of the body of the message rather than as an
> attachement.

According to the mm developers it's the only (easy) safe way to add the footer.

To have the footers really appended to your text:
1. Configure your MUA to send plant text emails.
2. Set the default language of your mailing list on the mm admin page to
English/US-ASCII.

It's funny that this solution also works with non ASCII characters, e.g.
german Umlauts (ISO-8859-1), but only if you use English as default
language, not german.


cu,
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[Mailman-Users] Re: Email footer

2004-03-24 Thread Boris Folgmann
Jason Marty schrieb:
> Does anyone know how to change the email footer – I cannot find it in
> templates.

On your list's admin page.



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[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman slow all of a sudden

2004-03-24 Thread Boris Folgmann
Hennie Rautenbach schrieb:

> Question. Where can I start looking to determine what is introducing the 
> delay in the queue ? Is there a way to determoine if something is stuck 
> in the queue somewhere that needs to be removed manually ?

Run mailq and check if there's really something in the queue.

> Do any of you have any pointers of where the culprit may be ? It seems 
> very strange that posts were processed almost immediately a few days ago 
> and now they take forever ?

The mailserver of some receivers could be down. Check /var/log/maillog for
any errors.

Check your server with top if some other program is stalling your CPU.
If nothing helps, check the Postfix+Mailman-Tuning HOWTO (ask google).
May be your machine should deliver more mails in parallel.

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[Mailman-Users] Re: footers

2004-03-24 Thread Boris Folgmann
Will Yardley schrieb:

> it adds an additional attachment with the footer in it. I don't think
> there's really a better workaround for this (other than not to send rich
> text or HTML mail :>).

Use a good MUA (NOT Outlook) that display this INLINE attachment really
inline. E.g. mozilla renders only a  between the mail and footer text.

cu,
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[Mailman-Users] HTML

2004-03-24 Thread Sean Carnahan



Hello,
 
I have read that 
people can send HTML emails via mailman, yet I cannot.
I have read the 
info, checked off to NOT strip html into pain text, yet when I get email sent it 
puts all the web based pics into the attachment box and send a plain looking 
email.
 
is there any way to 
send HTML template email to my newsletter list via mailman, with pictures and 
colors and backgrounds not stripped off?
 
I am using version 
2.1.3
 
thanks!!
 
Sean
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[Mailman-Users] What generates the index.html?

2004-03-24 Thread David Kramer
I run about eight mailman lists on my server. I noticed that the archive
 files are being created, but the index.html file that links to the monthly
 archives is not being generated, so there were only links to older months. 
 What process is supposed to generate these?  There must be some cron entry
 or other that I'm missing. /etc/cron.d/mailman has:
0 8 * * * mailman /usr/bin/python -S /usr/lib/mailman/cron/checkdbs
0 9 * * * mailman /usr/bin/python -S /usr/lib/mailman/cron/disabled
0 12 * * * mailman /usr/bin/python -S /usr/lib/mailman/cron/senddigests
0 5 1 * * mailman /usr/bin/python -S /usr/lib/mailman/cron/mailpasswds
0,5,10,15,20,25,30,35,40,45,50,55 * * * * mailman /usr/bin/python -S
 /usr/lib/ mailman/cron/gate_news
27 3 * * * mailman /usr/bin/python -S /usr/lib/mailman/cron/nightly_gzip
57 3 * * * mailman /usr/bin/python -S /usr/lib/mailman/cron/nightly_archives

When I try to run nightly_archives by hand, it says "No archives to
 process.". I noticed that the script attempts to open
 mm_cfg.EDITED_ARCHIVES_FILE, but no such file exists on my system.  Is
 mailman supposed to create/update that file whenever a list gets a post?

Background:  Suse 9.0 Professional, mailman-2.1.2-44.

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[Mailman-Users] Postfix problem: Unknown local recipient. Mailman 2.1.4

2004-03-24 Thread John Grunder
I have just upgraded from Mailman 2.1.1 to 2.1.4 using an RPM for Mandrake
9, and am now getting the following warning log when I try to post to one
of the lists:

Mar 22 19:38:57 listserv postfix/smtpd[1664]: 761933AAD:
client=unknown[192.168.1.40]
Mar 22 19:38:57 listserv postfix/smtpd[1664]: 761933AAD: reject: RCPT from
unknown[192.168.1.40]: 450 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: User
unknown in local recipient table; from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> proto=ESMTP
helo=
Mar 22 19:38:58 listserv postfix/smtpd[1664]: disconnect from
unknown[192.168.1.40]

Does anyone know what might be going on here?

I have checked the mm_cfg.py file and it contains the MTA = 'Postfix'
line, and have checked the Postfix main.cf file and it contains the
correct reference to /var/lib/mailman/data/aliases in its
local_recipient_maps line.  I even check the alias list using Webadmin and
the miis-la-alumni aliases show up there.  Postfix simply seems to be
rejecting miis-la-alumni as a valid local recipient. 

Any ideas on this?


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[Mailman-Users] mailman will not deliver mail

2004-03-24 Thread Michael Whitehead
I am having an extremely hard to getting mailman to work.

I am running:

FreeBSD 4.8
Qmail
Mailman 2.1
Apache 1.3

I have tried installing with ports and through source but I get stuck at the
same place. Mailmain will send mail for notifications, list subscriptions
confirmations and welcomes but will not relay an mail posted to a lists.

I am running a virtualdomain (lists.pipelogix.com) for Mailman on Qmail. I
get no errors anywhere that I can find. The mail comes in but just does not
go out.

Any help I can get will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

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[Mailman-Users] Installation GUI

2004-03-24 Thread John Crockford
Does anyone know of a program that will install mailman on a UNIX 
serverwithout knowing UNIX? I found one that installed MacGimp on my 
iMac and it worked great. Any suggestions?

John Crockford

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[Mailman-Users] footers

2004-03-24 Thread jsingh
Hi
 When I send an attachement, why does the footer come as an attachement ?
what do I need to do for the footer to appear normally at the end of the
body of the message rather than as an attachement.
thanks

Jaskaran Singh
University Systems & Security
Fairleigh Dickinson University
1000 River Road, Mail Stop TBH1-01
Teaneck, NJ 07666

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[Mailman-Users] View list subscription

2004-03-24 Thread Jeff Donovan
greetings
How can i view the list subscription and or dump it to a text file?
I need to see everyone at once.
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[Mailman-Users] Help with install: command-line works, but not web

2004-03-24 Thread thewade
Hello list,
My name is Wade. I am trying to use your software, but the web interface  
is fighting me.

I am using rh9 and apache 2.0.49 I think, and python 2.3.3. I can run 
bin/list_lists and see the lists but I cant see them on the net. I then   
try to create a list from the net, but It says that I cannot: which 
password do I use? I\'ve tried the mmsitepass password, my user password,  
each with my email with the @aproximation.org and with just my login.

My /etc/group and /etc/gshadow all have apache as a member of the mailman
group. bin/check_perm -f returns with no errors.

What can I do?

thanks for your help, 
-thewade

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Installation GUI

2004-03-24 Thread Jamie L. Penman-Smithson
On Tue, 2004-03-23 at 17:03, John Crockford wrote:
> Does anyone know of a program that will install mailman on a UNIX 
> serverwithout knowing UNIX? I found one that installed MacGimp on my 
> iMac and it worked great. Any suggestions?
> 
> John Crockford

If you're going to be administering a site with Mailman, you NEED to
know Unix. If you don't want to learn, go sign up for Yahoo! e-Groups,
or similar. Or find an ISP that will provide Mailman hosting. Take a
look at the FAQ - it's got a question about MM hosting.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman will not deliver mail

2004-03-24 Thread Jamie L. Penman-Smithson
On Tue, 2004-03-23 at 00:52, Michael Whitehead wrote:
> I am having an extremely hard to getting mailman to work.

> I have tried installing with ports and through source but I get stuck at the
> same place. Mailmain will send mail for notifications, list subscriptions
> confirmations and welcomes but will not relay an mail posted to a lists.
> 
> I am running a virtualdomain (lists.pipelogix.com) for Mailman on Qmail. I
> get no errors anywhere that I can find. The mail comes in but just does not
> go out.

Have a look at Mailman's logs, then have a look at qmail's logs. If you
don't understand them, paste them here.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] HTML

2004-03-24 Thread Jamie L. Penman-Smithson
On Wed, 2004-03-24 at 13:09, Sean Carnahan wrote:
> I have read that people can send HTML emails via mailman, yet I
> cannot. I have read the info, checked off to NOT strip html into pain
> text, yet when I get email sent it puts all the web based pics into
> the attachment box and send a plain looking email.
>  
> is there any way to send HTML template email to my newsletter list via
> mailman, with pictures and colors and backgrounds not stripped off?

HTML mail is pure evil, in addition, some MUA's cannot cope with HTML
mail, or do not render it properly. Plus it adds a whole load of
unneeded bloat, and can be a security risk - especially when used in
conjunction with 'LookOut'.

http://www.betips.net/etc/evilmail.html
http://www.georgedillon.com/web/html_email_is_evil_still.shtml
http://www.usethesource.com/articles/03/04/07/14.shtml

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[Mailman-Users] configuration files

2004-03-24 Thread Thomas Krichel

  Hi,

  I work as a volunteer for NEP: New Economics Paper, see 
  http://nep.repec.org. We have a lot of lists. All have
  identical setup, bar the name, title, and owners. I need
  to automate the configuration. But that does not seem to
  work. It has not been working for months. I wrote to
  the Debian maintainer but I have no response.  I am in dispair.

  I run the version of mailman distributed with the testing
  verison of Debian

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ /home/admnep/mailman/bin/version 
Using Mailman version: 2.1.4

  I can create a test list

sh-2.05b$ /var/lib/mailman/bin/newlist testlist [EMAIL PROTECTED] testpass
To finish creating your mailing list, you must edit your /etc/aliases (or
equivalent) file by adding the following lines, and possibly running the
`newaliases' program:

## testlist mailing list
testlist:  "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post testlist"
testlist-admin:"|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman admin testlist"
testlist-bounces:  "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman bounces testlist"
testlist-confirm:  "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman confirm testlist"
testlist-join: "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman join testlist"
testlist-leave:"|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman leave testlist"
testlist-owner:"|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman owner testlist"
testlist-request:  "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman request testlist"
testlist-subscribe:"|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe testlist"
testlist-unsubscribe:  "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe testlist"

Hit enter to notify testlist owner...

  I can then output its configuration

/var/lib/mailman/bin/config_list  -o /tmp/testlist.conf testlist

  I can use the same testlist file to configure my list

/var/lib/mailman/bin/config_list  -i /tmp/testlist.conf testlist

  No error reported, but the list is missconfiguered and can not
  be accessed on the web interface. Here is what's happening, say
  if I want to configure again

sh-2.05b$ /var/lib/mailman/bin/config_list  -i /tmp/testlist.conf testlist
sh-2.05b$ /var/lib/mailman/bin/config_list  -o /tmp/testlist.conf testlist
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/var/lib/mailman/bin/config_list", line 353, in ?
main()
  File "/var/lib/mailman/bin/config_list", line 346, in main
do_output(listname, outfile)
  File "/var/lib/mailman/bin/config_list", line 117, in do_output
do_list_categories(mlist, k, None, outfp)
  File "/var/lib/mailman/bin/config_list", line 127, in do_list_categories
info = mlist.GetConfigInfo(k, subcat)
  File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 428, in GetConfigInfo
value = gui.GetConfigInfo(self, category, subcat)
  File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Gui/General.py", line 53, in GetConfigInfo
optvals = [mlist.new_member_options & bitfields[o] for o in OPTIONS]
TypeError: unsupported operand type(s) for &: 'list' and 'int'


  The same error on the web interface

Bug in Mailman version 2.1.4

We're sorry, we hit a bug!

If you would like to help us identify the problem, please email a copy of this page to 
the webmaster for this site with a description of what happened. Thanks! 
Traceback:


Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/var/lib/mailman/scripts/driver", line 97, in run_main
main()
  File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py", line 175, in main
change_options(mlist, category, subcat, cgidata, doc)
  File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py", line 1296, in change_options
gui.handleForm(mlist, category, subcat, cgidata, doc)
  File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Gui/GUIBase.py", line 126, in handleForm
for item in self.GetConfigInfo(mlist, category, subcat):
  File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Gui/General.py", line 53, in GetConfigInfo
optvals = [mlist.new_member_options & bitfields[o] for o in OPTIONS]
TypeError: unsupported operand type(s) for &: 'list' and 'int'



Python information:

VariableValue   
sys.version 2.3.3 (#2, Feb 24 2004, 09:29:20) [GCC 3.3.3 (Debian)]  
sys.executable  /usr/bin/python 
sys.prefix  /usr
sys.exec_prefix /usr
sys.path/usr
sys.platformlinux2  

Environment variables:

VariableValue   
HTTP_REFERERhttp://lists.repec.org/mailman/admin/testlist   
SERVER_SOFTWARE Apache/1.3.29 (Debian GNU/Linux) PHP/4.3.3  
SCRIPT_NAME /mailman/admin  
SERVER_SIGNATURE
Apache/1.3.29 Server at netec.wustl.edu Port 80
REQUEST_METHOD  POST
PATH_INFO   /testlist   
SERVER_PROTOCOL HTTP/1.1
QUERY_STRING
HTTP_TE deflate, gzip, chunked, identity, trailers  
CONTENT_LENGTH  38  
HTTP_ACCEPT_CHARSET iso-8859-1, utf-8, utf-16, *;q=0.1  
HTTP_USER_AGENT Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; X11; Linux i686) Opera 7.23 
[en] 
HTTP_CONNECTION Keep-Alive, TE  
HTTP_COOKIE nep-car+admin=  
SERVER_NAME netec.wustl.edu 
REMOTE_ADDR 24.90.109.249   
PATH_TRANSLATED /hom

[Mailman-Users] Stripping headers

2004-03-24 Thread Tim Faircloth
Hello

I am using Mailman version 2.1.4 on a Solaris 5.8 box using sendmail.  I'm 
using it to host interoffice lists to which users should not be given the 
chance to subscribe/unsubscribe.  That's all well and good, but when 
someone posts to the list, mailman puts in a few unwanted headers:

List-Unsubscribe:
List-Archive:
List-Post:
List-Help:
List-Subscribe:
I do not want members of the lists to be able to unsubscribe, subscribe, 
etc. (all subscriptions are handled by list admins and moderators), so I do 
not want the users to see these headers.  Is there a way to strip these 
headers out, or configure mailman to leave out these headers?

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[Mailman-Users] Dropping local domain.

2004-03-24 Thread Shaun T. Erickson
I run Mailman on a system that uses Postfix. I have multiple virtual 
domains that I host, some of which have Mailman lists, and the system's 
local domain, which also hosts a list (the mailman site-wide list).

Everything works fine.

I am going to change the local domain into a virtual domain, so that all 
domains on the system are virtual and none are local. Mailman's aliases 
all resolve at the local level though, so I'm wondering how to do what I 
want to do without breaking Mailman.

Is anyone running Mailman on a system with only virtual domains? How do 
I do this without breaking everything?

	-ste

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Stripping headers

2004-03-24 Thread texas critter
On Wednesday, March 24, 2004 10:51 AM, Tim Faircloth wrote:

> moderators), so I do not want the users to see these headers.  Is
> there a way to strip these headers out, or configure mailman to
> leave out these headers?

http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq04.001.htp

"While not recommended, Mailman 2.1 supports suppressing all the RFC 2369
headers list-wide. See the admin interface under the General Options
category, specifically the include_rfc2369_headers option."

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Notify about your e-mail account utilization.

2004-03-24 Thread Jeff D

I hope no one opened that Zip file.




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Re: [Mailman-Users] Notify about your e-mail account utilization.

2004-03-24 Thread Luc Brouard
On Wed, Mar 24, 2004 at 02:30:18PM -0500, Jeff D wrote:
> 
> I hope no one opened that Zip file.

Didn' teven "received it", it was blocked by Clamav and bitdefender  via
amavis-new (both scanners are free for personal use).
I also use f-prot (free as well) but it didn't datch the mail as with
the bagle virus.

Luc

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[Mailman-Users] Re: Dropping local domain.

2004-03-24 Thread Boris Folgmann
Shaun T. Erickson schrieb:

> I am going to change the local domain into a virtual domain, so that all 
> domains on the system are virtual and none are local. Mailman's aliases 

No problem.
Listadresses are mapped using virtual-mailman to names without @dom.ain.
This means that they are regarded as local in the next step and are mapped
using aliases to their final destination - the mm wrapper.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: Dropping local domain.

2004-03-24 Thread Shaun T. Erickson
Boris Folgmann wrote:

Shaun T. Erickson schrieb:


I am going to change the local domain into a virtual domain, so that all 
domains on the system are virtual and none are local. Mailman's aliases 


No problem.
Listadresses are mapped using virtual-mailman to names without @dom.ain.
This means that they are regarded as local in the next step and are mapped
using aliases to their final destination - the mm wrapper.
Well, in an all virtual postfix setup, nothing is ever sent to the local 
delivery agent, so no alias expansion can be done. There is no "local".

	-ste

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[Mailman-Users] GID For Virtualized Qmail[Vmailmgr]

2004-03-24 Thread Karl R. Balsmeier
Hi there,

I am running Vmailmgr on my mail server so it can host multiple domains. 
The build is based on qmail, and stores mail in the following structure:

/home/dom/mydomain/users/username

I noticed the documentation notes possible things to do:

---snip---

- You might need to set the mail-gid user to either "qmail", "mailman", or
  "nofiles" by using the --with-mail-gid configure option.

  BN: it highly depends on your mail storing policy.  For example if
  you use the simple ~alias/.qmail-* files, you can use `id -g alias`.
  But if you use /var/qmail/users, the specified mail gid can be
  used.

  If you are going to be directing virtual domains directly to the
  "mailman" user (using "virtualdomains" on a list-only domain, for
  example), you will have to use --with-mail-gid=
  This is incompatible with having list aliases in ~alias, unless that alias
  simply forwards to "mailman-listname*".

- If there is a user `mailman' on your system, the alias
  `mailman-owner' will work only in ~mailman.  You have to do a "touch
  .qmail-owner" in ~mailman directory to create this alias.

  NB: An alternative, IMHO better solution is to `chown root
  ~mailman', that will stop qmail from considering `mailman' to be a
  user to whom mail can be delivered.  (See `man 8 qmail-getpw'.)

---snip---

My question is this:

1.  I plan on using mailman to run lists for users on xyx.net, there are
20 users.  We plan to use about 5 lists with unique names.  What's the
best choice of the above recommendations given my described setup? 
[Qmail/Vmailmgr with mail stored in /home/dom/xyx.net/users/username]

-karl


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RE: [Mailman-Users] HTML

2004-03-24 Thread Sean Carnahan
Yes I agree its not wonderful

But I send out a newsletter that has to have graphics and flyers and if not
colorful they arent as effective for promotion.
Any ideas on how to do it even if you don't like it?

 

-Original Message-
From: Jamie L. Penman-Smithson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 9:34 AM
To: Sean Carnahan
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Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] HTML

On Wed, 2004-03-24 at 13:09, Sean Carnahan wrote:
> I have read that people can send HTML emails via mailman, yet I 
> cannot. I have read the info, checked off to NOT strip html into pain 
> text, yet when I get email sent it puts all the web based pics into 
> the attachment box and send a plain looking email.
>  
> is there any way to send HTML template email to my newsletter list via 
> mailman, with pictures and colors and backgrounds not stripped off?

HTML mail is pure evil, in addition, some MUA's cannot cope with HTML mail,
or do not render it properly. Plus it adds a whole load of unneeded bloat,
and can be a security risk - especially when used in conjunction with
'LookOut'.

http://www.betips.net/etc/evilmail.html
http://www.georgedillon.com/web/html_email_is_evil_still.shtml
http://www.usethesource.com/articles/03/04/07/14.shtml

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[Mailman-Users] Custom signup page?

2004-03-24 Thread quasi
I would like to integrate the signup form on my existing website, just 
with the "your email adress:"  entry and the subscribe button under it.

The default signup page is good for advanced users so I still wanna 
keep it, but most of the people who visit my site are pretty clueless 
about anything internet related, a whole page with text is just 
confusing to them.

So is it ok to integrate the email field and the subscribe button on 
your existing homepage, and if so what code do you need for it?

Thanks!

quasi.

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Re: - [Mailman-Users] Custom signup page?

2004-03-24 Thread Lloyd F. Tennison
Yes, you can modify.  Just pull the code that is just for subscribe off 
that page.  If you need a sample - let me know and I will send you a 
sample page I use.


To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From:   quasi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date sent:  Thu, 25 Mar 2004 01:47:06 +0100
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Custom signup page?

> I would like to integrate the signup form on my existing website, just 
> with the "your email adress:"  entry and the subscribe button under it.
> 
> The default signup page is good for advanced users so I still wanna 
> keep it, but most of the people who visit my site are pretty clueless 
> about anything internet related, a whole page with text is just 
> confusing to them.
> 
> 
> So is it ok to integrate the email field and the subscribe button on 
> your existing homepage, and if so what code do you need for it?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> quasi.
> 
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[Mailman-Users] Backup

2004-03-24 Thread Jason Marty
Title: Backup



If I want to back up the list data on Mac OS X Panther Server does anyone know which files I need to copy?



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[Mailman-Users] Export

2004-03-24 Thread Jason Marty
Title: Export



Does anyone know how to export the current lists?



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[Mailman-Users] Multiple same-named (virtual hosted) lists on the same machine

2004-03-24 Thread S. M. Das
Hello all! I searched for an answer to my question in the faq, archive, docs, 
and also on the web, but no luck.

Anyway, we are running Mailman and Sendmail on a Debian GNU/Linux machine, and 
do web hosting for multiple domains. Turns out that two of our clients both want 
Mailman managed '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' named mailing lists.

Well, our primary mail server is on another machine, is the MX host for all the 
domains, and which has all the current aliases for all our client domains in 
it's virtusertable. It, too, is running Sendmail.

I am unfortunately not permitted to switch MTA's, nor to move MTA functions for 
those two domains on to separate machines. I must maintain the current 
configuration and functionality, but somehow have Mailman know which staff alias 
it is sending to, and write it's outgoing list mail from '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'.

Currently, I am able to have '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' aliases on the MX machine which 
forward to '[EMAIL PROTECTED]', and on the Mailman machine, 
'domain-staff:' aliases for Mailman lists called 'domain-staff' who recognize 
'To: ' headers containing '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' as explicit list addresses 
(so postings don't get held).

Great.

The problem is that the lists intrinsic names are still configured as 
'[EMAIL PROTECTED]', which means that list mail is sent from that instead 
of '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'. Moreover, the CGI generated pages, welcome emails, and 
other list aliases ('domain-staff-owner' instead of 'staff-owner' etc) all 
contain the workaround address.

All I need is for Mailman to somehow claim universally (in welcome messages, 
list 'To:' headers, URL's etc) that it's list address is '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'

Short order, huh? :)

Now that I've thoroughly confused the issue, first, does anybody understand what 
it is that I want? Second, is there a FAQ question, or statement in the docs 
that I missed that gives me the short answer? ('no! you can't do that!', right?)
Third, has anybody had this problem before, known anyone who has had this 
problem, ever heard of this problem, or, most importantly, done any work towards 
making this possible?

If not, and some coding is involved, than I can accept that as an answer, but 
would like a bit of advise on where/whether to start.

I don't know any Python at all, but have been programming in C/C++, perl (and 
now some PHP) for many years. I'm not afraid of Python, but would rather have a 
configuration/workaround based option instead. (What if I need to upgrade 
Mailman for security reasons or whatever? I'll have no guarantee that I can even 
port my modifications to the new code, and I'm pretty certain that nobody wants 
my hacky cruft in their codebase, no matter what functionality it provides).

Thanks for any and all comments or responses (also big thanks to anyone who 
actually reads my entire message)!

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Re: [Mailman-Users] newbie question

2004-03-24 Thread Jim Chivas

I double checked the information you suggested below. I did your
suggestion and it works ok.

Now new question.

I am following the mailman doc to create my first list ex:

http://my.dom.ain:8080/mailman/create
  
Note the port number!


The screen comes up and I put in the data requested but when I click on
create I receive the 'mailman/create' page can't be found plus the URL in
my browser does not keep the port# 8080 in its path. I am assuming this is
my trouble.

To correct this I added

DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'pipeline.langara.bc.ca:8080'

to my mm_cfg.py file at the end.

I then stopped and started mailmanctl.

When I try again the url still keeps loosing the port# 8080 from the URL.


Referencing the following list off the create page returns similar no
port# url as follows.


http://pipeline.langara.bc.ca/mailman/admin (overview)

http://pipeline.langara.bc.ca/mailman/listinfo (list overview)


Can you offer any suggestions on how to keep the port# in the URL's for
mailman?


Thanks

Jim


On 10 Mar 2004, Jon Carnes wrote:

> On Wed, 2004-03-10 at 12:53, Jim Chivas wrote:
> > On 10 Mar 2004, Jon Carnes wrote:
> >
> > > Did you stop and restart Apache?
> >
> > yes.
> > >
> > > Does Apache give you any errors with regards to your added lines in
> > > httpd.conf?
> >
> > None.
> >
> > Is this the correct url ?
> >
> > http://my-server-name/mailman/admin/mailman
>
> should be fine as long as your servers domain name is "my-server-name"
> :-)
>
> > Does my install directory look correct?
> >
>
> In my installs I don't use the  directive to define Apache's
> access for the local directories. I just have the ScriptAlias point
> there.
>
> Leave the ScriptAlias but comment out this stuff and then restart Apache
>  
>AllowOverride   None
>Options None
>Order   allow,deny
>Allow   fromall
>  
>
> It may be that if you define the Directory that you must specify
> "ExecCGI" in the Options statement (and not "None").
>
> Good Luck - Jon Carnes
>
> > Thanks
> >
> > Jim
> >
> >

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Re: [Mailman-Users] newbie question

2004-03-24 Thread Richard Barrett
On 25 Mar 2004, at 05:09, Jim Chivas wrote:

I double checked the information you suggested below. I did your
suggestion and it works ok.
Now new question.

I am following the mailman doc to create my first list ex:

http://my.dom.ain:8080/mailman/create
  
Note the port number!
The screen comes up and I put in the data requested but when I click on
create I receive the 'mailman/create' page can't be found plus the URL 
in
my browser does not keep the port# 8080 in its path. I am assuming 
this is
my trouble.

To correct this I added

DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'pipeline.langara.bc.ca:8080'

to my mm_cfg.py file at the end.

I then stopped and started mailmanctl.

When I try again the url still keeps loosing the port# 8080 from the 
URL.

Referencing the following list off the create page returns similar no
port# url as follows.
http://pipeline.langara.bc.ca/mailman/admin (overview)

http://pipeline.langara.bc.ca/mailman/listinfo (list overview)

Can you offer any suggestions on how to keep the port# in the URL's for
mailman?
See under the heading "Non-standard web server ports" in this FAQ entry:

http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq04.029.htp

Thanks

Jim

On 10 Mar 2004, Jon Carnes wrote:

On Wed, 2004-03-10 at 12:53, Jim Chivas wrote:
On 10 Mar 2004, Jon Carnes wrote:

Did you stop and restart Apache?
yes.
Does Apache give you any errors with regards to your added lines in
httpd.conf?
None.

Is this the correct url ?

http://my-server-name/mailman/admin/mailman
should be fine as long as your servers domain name is "my-server-name"
:-)
Does my install directory look correct?

In my installs I don't use the  directive to define 
Apache's
access for the local directories. I just have the ScriptAlias point
there.

Leave the ScriptAlias but comment out this stuff and then restart 
Apache
 
   AllowOverride   None
   Options None
   Order   allow,deny
   Allow   fromall
 

It may be that if you define the Directory that you must specify
"ExecCGI" in the Options statement (and not "None").
Good Luck - Jon Carnes

Thanks

Jim


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[Mailman-Users] New list password

2004-03-24 Thread Jason Marty
Title: New list password



I am running Mailman on a Mac with OS X Panther.
When you create a list via the GUI interface it does not ask you to create an admin password.
If I try to create the list via the Mailman interface I do not know the password and it will no accept my other list passwords.
Is there any place I can change, override or set this password??

Jason 



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