Re: [Mailman-Users] Cpanel is trying to work on a couple ofMailmanIssues - but We Need Help

[Anoetic Concepts]

Lloyd F. Tennison wrote:

> (Also, if there are any other glaring issues - maybe they can look
at
> them at the same time - but no promises.)

Yes, please have them look into this problem:

I'm using the Mailman version included in CPanel -- I think it's
version 2.1.3.  I sent the following 5 commands in an email to
the -request address of a list:

set authenticate password
set show
set delivery off
set show
end

Of course, I replaced "password" with my actual password.  The
response follows:

- Results:
Your current option settings:
ack on
digest off
delivery on
myposts on
hide off
duplicates on
reminders on
delivery option set
Your current option settings:
ack on
digest off
delivery on
myposts on
hide off
duplicates on
reminders on

- Done.

The line:
delivery option set
indicates that the set delivery command was processed, but as you can
see, the option was never turned off.  How do I get this bug fixed?
Do I need to report it to CPanel to get them to fix it and/or upgrade
the version of Mailman?

Jeff
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[Mailman-Users] Mailman not delivering properly

[Harley Pebley]

I've been trying to get an almost working Mailman install to be
completely working. Everything seems to work except delivery of
any type of mail. I've looked in the FAQs and archives but didn't
see anything like this.
The only messages I get are from Mailman in smtp-failure:
  Apr 21 16:35:45 2004 (2892) delivery to [EMAIL PROTECTED] failed with
  code -1: icheep in local_domains? yes (matched reepicheep)
It appears Mailman is trying to use a partial part (icheep) of the host name
(reepicheep) in its delivery attempts.
Any ideas why or how to fix?

Thanks,
Harley Pebley 

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RE: [Mailman-Users] List not distributing posts

[Franco, Ruben]

Listserv seems to have started working again after removing a couple of "lock" files 
from the "mailman/locks" directory.  Did this acutally fix the issue or was it 
coincidental?

Ruben


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Franco, Ruben
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 6:04 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Mailman-Users] List not distributing posts


We are running a listserv on  RedHat 6 system with Mailman 2.0.  The posts 
seem to reach the machine and we see the following entry in the maillog:


maillog:

"listserv sendmail[4234]: i3LKrnH04234: from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, size=880, class=-60, 
nrcpts=1, msgid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=IDENT:[EMAIL 
PROTECTED] [127.0.0.1]"


But we never see additional entries for these posts to show them going out to 
the list members.  Earlier today we would see entries such as:

"listserv sendmail[4236]: i3LKrnH04234: to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, delay=00:00:00, 
xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=esmtp, pri=138880, relay=smtp.utep.edu. [129.108.0.175], 
dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (Ok: queued as ACCF111F8D2)"



The only other messages we can find that could be related to this problem is 
in the following in the grunner log:

logs/grunner:
--
"Could not acquire qrunner lock"



NOTE: The problem is limited to listservs as we are able to send and receive e-mail to 
individual user accounts (both local and remote).


Any assistance will be greatly appreciated.

Ruben


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman-htdig bug or configuration error

[Joe Kissell]

On Apr 21, 2004, at 5:26 PM, George Theall wrote:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/share/mailman/scripts/driver", line 87, in run_main
main()
  File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/mmsearch.py", line 211, in main
child.tochild.close()
IOError: [Errno 32] Broken pipe
Something tells me this may be due to some trivial configuration 
issue,
such as an error in mm_cfg.py, but I'm stumped. Can anyone offer any
guidance?
I've seen this if permissions on htsearch (pointed to by
HTDIG_HTSEARCH_PATH in mm_cfg.py) don't permit it to be executed by the
web user / group.
Aha! Looks like it also occurs when one has a typo in mm_cfg.py 
(HTDIG_SEARCH_PATH instead of HTDIG_HTSEARCH_PATH). Oops. But thanks 
for the tip--it pointed me in the right direction! Everything's working 
now.

Joe

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[Mailman-Users] Re: Editing the "Confirm Subscription Request" Page

[Paul H Byerly]

Jonathan Erbe wrote:
Anyone know how to edit the "Confirm Subscription Request" page and
other public pages not listed under the "edit public pages" section?
 Mailman looks in various places, in order, for each template.  The 
last place it looks is /mailman/templates/en (or what ever language 
you are using).  If the template is found in /mailman//en 
that is used instead.  So,  you can modify the template for a list by 
copying the original from/mailman/templates/en to 
/mailman//en and editing the list copy as you see 
fit.  Be sure to do bin/mailmanctl restart when you are done.  You will 
also need to send a post to the archives for any template involved with the 
archives.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman-htdig bug or configuration error

[George Theall]

On Wed, Apr 21, 2004 at 04:22:01PM -0700, Joe Kissell wrote:

> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "/usr/share/mailman/scripts/driver", line 87, in run_main
> main()
>   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/mmsearch.py", line 211, in main
> child.tochild.close()
> IOError: [Errno 32] Broken pipe
> 
> Something tells me this may be due to some trivial configuration issue, 
> such as an error in mm_cfg.py, but I'm stumped. Can anyone offer any 
> guidance?

I've seen this if permissions on htsearch (pointed to by
HTDIG_HTSEARCH_PATH in mm_cfg.py) don't permit it to be executed by the
web user / group. 

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[Mailman-Users] List not distributing posts

[Franco, Ruben]

We are running a listserv on  RedHat 6 system with Mailman 2.0.  The posts 
seem to reach the machine and we see the following entry in the maillog:


maillog:

"listserv sendmail[4234]: i3LKrnH04234: from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, size=880, class=-60, 
nrcpts=1, msgid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=IDENT:[EMAIL 
PROTECTED] [127.0.0.1]"


But we never see additional entries for these posts to show them going out to 
the list members.  Earlier today we would see entries such as:

"listserv sendmail[4236]: i3LKrnH04234: to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, delay=00:00:00, 
xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=esmtp, pri=138880, relay=smtp.utep.edu. [129.108.0.175], 
dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (Ok: queued as ACCF111F8D2)"



The only other messages we can find that could be related to this problem is 
in the following in the grunner log:

logs/grunner:
--
"Could not acquire qrunner lock"



NOTE: The problem is limited to listservs as we are able to send and receive e-mail to 
individual user accounts (both local and remote).


Any assistance will be greatly appreciated.

Ruben


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[Mailman-Users] Mailman-htdig bug or configuration error

[Joe Kissell]

Hello all,

I have a fully functional installation of Mailman 2.1.4 (with patch 
#444884 for htdig integration) running on Mac OS X Server 10.3.3. The 
Mailman lists themselves work correctly, as does htdig by itself. On 
the TOC page for any list's archives, I get the Search box and 
indicator of when the index was last rebuilt, just as I should. 
However, when I perform a search on any term, I get the following:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/share/mailman/scripts/driver", line 87, in run_main
main()
  File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/mmsearch.py", line 211, in main
child.tochild.close()
IOError: [Errno 32] Broken pipe
Something tells me this may be due to some trivial configuration issue, 
such as an error in mm_cfg.py, but I'm stumped. Can anyone offer any 
guidance?

Thanks,

Joe Kissell

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 'Suspicious header' question

[Rod Neep]

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, texas 
critter - mailman-users <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
Rod Neep wrote:

Something in their header that Mailman doesn't like... but for the life
of me, I can't see what might be in there that is "suspicious". It all
looks quite normal.
Post their headers here and we'll take a look?  (xxx out any list 
addresses and individual email addresses, of course)

hth,
texas critter
Just when you are waiting for one... it doesn't come ;-)
I'll post one here when I next get one.
Cheers
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[Mailman-Users] Attachment Issues

[Sean Collen]

Hi,
	I have been using Mailman for quite a while now. I am currently  
running version 2.1.4. I have checked the mailing lists and FAQS, and I  
am unable to find anyone with the issue I am having, less I am  
searching incorrectly.

	The issue I am having is that messages content are getting posted to  
the archives as attachments. The contact getting scrubbed is plain  
text. I have narrowed down one of the causes but cannot find a fix,  
explained below. Any help would be appreciated.

I have some cgi scripts on an internal apache server that we use for  
logging. IE, a tech can log into a web page, get technical info for  
some issues, and post a message to a generic list based on the type of  
issue - video conferencing , servers, web servers, etc. The script just  
opens a pipe to mail, example:

		open X, "|/bin/mail -t $LISTSERV";

Anything sent to the list, even using "mail" on the command line, the  
message gets stripped off as a non-text message.

Sean Collen
Chief Systems Administrator
10 Empire State Blvd
Capitol Corporate Campus
Castleton, NY 12033
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518-479-5100
 
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RE: [Mailman-Users] Adding users via email - No confirmation wanted.

[mailman-users]

-Original Message-
From: Darryl Harvey
It's not a once off, it's an ongoing thing.
They confirmation emails will cause havoc to our 500+ staff
that will 
receive them, we don't want them to get ANY email about the
list.

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No problem if it's an ongoing thing, as long as no-one
outside your network has access. In other words, you don't
want any tom, dick or harry subscribing without your
knowledge.

The way I suggested, the users will not receive the
confirmation messages, they wont even know that they're
subscribed. Unfortunately I don't know about the
confirmation emails to YOU.

Cheers
Hilton


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Re: [Mailman-Users] using sendmail

[Dan Phillips]

On Apr 21, 2004, at 12:28 PM, Paul Tomblin wrote:
Quoting Hervé MARTIN ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
I've read http://www.afp548.com/Articles/mail/python-mailman.html and
find it very clear but i'm using default Mac OS X MTA (ie Sendmail)
So what is the equivalent for Sendmail of :
sendmail hasn't been the default Mac OS X MTA for a couple of releases
now.  I think Apple switched to Postfix around 10.1 or 10.2.


The switch to Postfix was with 10.3.

Dan

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Re: [Mailman-Users] using sendmail

[Paul Tomblin]

Quoting Hervé MARTIN ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> I've read http://www.afp548.com/Articles/mail/python-mailman.html and 
> find it very clear but i'm using default Mac OS X MTA (ie Sendmail)
> So what is the equivalent for Sendmail of :

sendmail hasn't been the default Mac OS X MTA for a couple of releases
now.  I think Apple switched to Postfix around 10.1 or 10.2.

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[Mailman-Users] Can mailman be configured to use a mysql database as its source?

[Michael Caughill]

The subject says it all.

Thanks.

Michael



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[Mailman-Users] Questions

[Wanda Clark Araujo]

We’re in the process of setting up with hostway.  They’ve recommended
Mailman.

We’d like an email marketing software to allows us to create
professional-looking, colorful HTML email newsletters, to manage email lists
(so we can upload our data lists, target or segment portions of it and
personalize), to track for receipts, opening and click thrus and to work
within our Windows-based environment.

I am unsure if the capabilities described above are offered.  Can you
address this question please?

Regards,
Wanda

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[Mailman-Users] using sendmail

[Hervé MARTIN]

Hello,

I've read http://www.afp548.com/Articles/mail/python-mailman.html and 
find it very clear but i'm using default Mac OS X MTA (ie Sendmail)
So what is the equivalent for Sendmail of :
---
As super-user, change to the /etc/postfix/ directory.
Using a command-line editor ( emacs ,vi ,etc. ), edit the main.cf file.
Find the alias_maps line.
Append a comma to the end of the line, followed by a space and the text 
hash:/Users/mailman/data/aliases
Note: if necessary, the hash:/Users/mailman/data/aliases text can 
appear on a line by itself, so long as the text is preceded by 
whitespace.
Execute the postfix reload command.


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[Mailman-Users] Editing the "Confirm Subscription Request" Page

[Jonathan Erbe]

Anyone know how to edit the "Confirm Subscription Request" page and 
other public pages not listed under the "edit public pages" section?
Thanks,
Jonathan

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[Mailman-Users] is it possible create 1000 lists on the fly?

[Yuan Ho]

hello, i wonder if it's posible to create 1000 mailing lists without make 
any script or something like that?

i mean, create 1000 on the fly, based on a file that contains mailing list 
name, and admin e-mail for each mailing list... and maybe password...

if it's possible.. how may i do it?

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RE: [Mailman-Users] Is mailman suitable ?

[Hilton J Ralphs (THiNK)]

You're right Tim, there's an option under "General posting
filters" where you can allow 'the whole world' to post
unrestricted.

Thanks
Cheers
Hilton

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim
Faircloth

At 04:40 PM 4/18/2004, you wrote:
>Quoting Thomas Carrié <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > group C policy : anyone on the internet can write to
group C
>- yes but they would have to subscribe

not neccessarily.  there's an option under Subscription
rules/sender 
filters about what to do with non-member posts... "allow",
"hold", 
"reject", "discard"

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[Mailman-Users] Can a Public High School Use Mailman?

[Andrea Viel]

Hi:

 

I'm a mom who is in charge of sending our high schools newsletters every
week.  We have almost 700 addresses on our list.  I had previously used
WorldMerge to send our newsletters, but after trouble with SBC DSL, I
switched to Comcast, which limits my transmissions to 10 at a time.  Of
course, this won't work for us.

 

I was exposed to Mailman, because I also manage the Oakland Strokes mail.
We certainly could load the email addresses we've collected manually.

 

As I don't really know much about websites, can you please explain what we
need to use Mailman.  Can our school district website link up or create a
mailman account?  Please explain how Mailman is set up in very simple terms!

 

Andrea Viel, "Mailmom" for Piedmont High School, Piedmont, CA

(510) 654-1702

 

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RE: [Mailman-Users] Adding users via email - No confirmation wanted.

[Hilton J Ralphs (THiNK)]

-Original Message-
From: Darryl Harvey

Is there any way for a moderator (or list admin) to add
users via an email that doesn't result in a confirmation
email being sent to the actual user before they are a valid
subscriber?

Is there any option for NO approval (As long as the
moderator (or
admin)) is initiating this request ?

We have a closed list (internal company list) that needs to
be populated, we can subscribe them, but we cannot use the
web interface), we need to use the email interface, but we
do NOT want/need any confirmation sent to each user.

-

I see no answer via the list, so here goes.

If you're using 2.1.4, then do this...

First step should be to get your administrator to fiddle
with mm_cfg.py and set 'ALLOW_OPEN_SUBSCRIBE = Yes' and then
'DEFAULT_SUBSCRIBE_POLICY = 0'.

Then set the 'subscribe_policy' to 'none'.

Then send a message to the list with these details
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Body: subscribe requiredpassword
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

You'll get a whole bunch of confirmation mails, so just set
a rule to delete them. I'm not sure how to turn this
'feature' off.

If it's a once off, then go for it, but change back
afterwards.

Cheers
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Re: [Mailman-Users] remote access of mailman administration

[Todd]

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Dr. Jones wrote:
> I can work with my various mail lists when I am at my office, at my mail 
> server machine. However, if I am away, it seems almost impossible for me 
> to connect.
>
> I have tried to enter my IP address, i.e., 
> http://x.x.x.x/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/listname. That does NOT work...so I 
> try http://scott.sanchiro.com/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/listname, etc...or 
> just http://sanchir.com/etc/etc/etc none of this works though...
>
> I have a friend who helps and he says he can connect and open a browser 
> window into the web based admin screens

I can get to the list admin overview page via
http://sanchiro.com/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/, however trying to go to
either of the 2 lists (Mailman and Patients) gives an error because
the link is to the host scott.sanchiro.com which does not exist.  Your
lists seem configured to use scott.sanchiro.com as the URL but you or
your webhost have not created that hostname in the sanchiro.com
domain.  Either add that hostname or use the fix_url.py script to
change the lists URL to a fully qualified domain name that exists.

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[Mailman-Users] remote access of mailman administration

[Dr. Jones]

I can work with my various mail lists when I am at my office, at my mail 
server machine. However, if I am away, it seems almost impossible for me 
to connect.

I have tried to enter my IP address, i.e., 
http://x.x.x.x/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/listname. That does NOT work...so I 
try http://scott.sanchiro.com/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/listname, etc...or 
just http://sanchir.com/etc/etc/etc none of this works though...

I have a friend who helps and he says he can connect and open a browser 
window into the web based admin screens

Anything i am missing here on how to remotely access my lists?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Cpanel is trying to work on a couple of MailmanIssues - but We Need Help

[texas critter - mailman-users]

Lloyd F. Tennison wrote:

> (Also, if there are any other glaring issues - maybe they can look at
> them at the same time - but no promises.)

Yes!  Whenever cPanel updates, it wipes out the mailman cron job, ask them
to please stop doing that or set the cPanel update to reinstall the cron
job at the end of the update process.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Adding users via email - No confirmation wanted.

[Tim Faircloth]

At 10:24 AM 4/21/2004, you wrote:
It's possible to write a perl script to parse an email and run 
add_members... then set up an account on the server that is allowed to run 
the script under sudo with no password... then have his .forward file 
contain the line "| sudo scriptname".  Honestly it sounds like a hackish 
way of doing it, but it could work.
Here's a sample script that I've whipped up quickly.  It's probably full of 
bugs and it's untested, but here it is.  I've added the capability to add 
regular users and digest users, as well as the ability to remove users from 
a list.

Assuming the moderator wanted to add [EMAIL PROTECTED] as a digest, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] as a regular, and remove [EMAIL PROTECTED], the 
body of the email would look like this:

digest [EMAIL PROTECTED]
regular [EMAIL PROTECTED]
remove [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- begin script -
#!/bin/perl
$listname="listnamehere";

$addscript="/usr/local/mailman/bin/add_members";
$addargs="-w n -a n";
$addregtempfile="/tmp/regulartemp";
$adddigtempfile="/tmp/digesttemp";
$remscript="/usr/local/mailman/bin/remove_members";
$remargs="-nN";
until( =~ /^$/) {
# Do nothing... this loop throws away headers
}
# Remove one more line... the blank line between
# mail headers and body
$nothing = ;
# add_members requires that email addresses be put in a file:
# one for regular subscriptions, one for digest subscriptions:
open(REGULAR, ">$addregtemp") || die "can't create tempfile regulartemp\n";
open(DIGEST, ">$adddigtemp") || die "can't create tempfile digesttemp\n";
# remove_members allows putting email addresses on the command line,
# so we can put all those email addresses in an array
@removals=();
while() {
if($_ =~ /^digest /) {
s/^digest //;
print DIGEST $_;
} elsif ($_ =~ /^regular /) {
s/^regular //;
print REGULAR $_;
} elsif ($_ =~ /^remove /) {
s/^remove //;
chomp;
push(@removals);
} else {
print STDERR "invalid command";
}
}
close DIGEST;
close REGULAR;
# run the scripts using the info provided
system "$addscript $addargs -r $addregtemp -d $adddigtemp $listname";
system "$remscript $remargs $listname @removals";
# remove temp files
unlink $adddigtemp;
unlink $addregtemp;
- end script -
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RE: [Mailman-Users] Cpanel is trying to work on a couple of MailmanIssues - but We Need Help

[Jim Swift]

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lloyd 
> F. Tennison
> Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 1:18 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [Mailman-Users] Cpanel is trying to work on a couple 
> of MailmanIssues - but We Need Help
> 
> (Also, if there are any other glaring issues - maybe they can look
at 
> them at the same time - but no promises.)
> 
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Lloyd F. Tennison
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 

In cpanel, the welcome message for a list is added to a standard
welcome message that is uneditable in the cpanel installation. 

PLEASE can we have a method of editing the entire welcome message, not
just the list specific part. Or failing that, let us know the location
of the "fixed" part of the welcome message. 

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Re: [Mailman-Users] User passwords

[Justin Alcorn]

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Brian Maull said:
> Is there a quick and easy way to force mailman to send
> out a password reminder to everyone on the list right
> now?
> Thanks,
> Brian
>
Sure.  mailing out passwords is a croin job:

# 5 AM on the first of each month, mail out password reminders.
0 5 1 * * /usr/bin/python -S /usr/local/mailman/cron/mailpasswds

just run that as mailman.

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[Mailman-Users] User passwords

[Brian Maull]

Is there a quick and easy way to force mailman to send
out a password reminder to everyone on the list right
now?
Thanks,
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Adding users via email - No confirmation wanted.

[Tim Faircloth]

At 09:53 AM 4/21/2004, you wrote:
If you can produce a one-per-line text listing of all the email addresses
that need to be subscribed, e.g.:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[...et cetera...]
then you could do this from a simple command line. Take a look at the
$prefix/bin/add_members command, with options similar to these:
$prefix/bin/add_members --regular-members-file= \
  --welcome-msg=n   --admin-notify=n   
(Run add_members with "--help" to get a full syntax help display.)

I haven't tested this on my system, but according to the documentation this
should subscribe the people listed in the file, with no confirmation messages.
Try it on a short list of just a couple of users first, to make sure it
behaves as you wish it to.
It's possible to write a perl script to parse an email and run 
add_members... then set up an account on the server that is allowed to run 
the script under sudo with no password... then have his .forward file 
contain the line "| sudo scriptname".  Honestly it sounds like a hackish 
way of doing it, but it could work.  The line you add using the "visudo" 
command would look something like this:

  ALL=NOPASSWD: /absolute/path/to/script

Just a thought.  If you're better with python or shell scripting, it 
doesn't *have* to be a perl script.

That setup would allow for adding via email without allowing a root ssh 
shell to your list administrator.  The script could also be modified to 
remove members as well, but it would change the format of the input to 
something like this (if you're good, you could add several users and remove 
users in the same email):

add 
add 
remove 
remove 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Adding users via email - No confirmation wanted.

[Scott Courtney]

On Wednesday 21 April 2004 08:34, Darryl Harvey wrote:
> Sounds ok, but.
>
> It's not a once off, it's an ongoing thing.
> They confirmation emails will cause havoc to our 500+ staff that will
> receive them, we don't want them to get ANY email about the list.
>
> Getting closer, surely there must be some way to do it.

If you can produce a one-per-line text listing of all the email addresses
that need to be subscribed, e.g.:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[...et cetera...]

then you could do this from a simple command line. Take a look at the
$prefix/bin/add_members command, with options similar to these:

$prefix/bin/add_members --regular-members-file= \
  --welcome-msg=n   --admin-notify=n   

(Run add_members with "--help" to get a full syntax help display.)

I haven't tested this on my system, but according to the documentation this
should subscribe the people listed in the file, with no confirmation messages.

Try it on a short list of just a couple of users first, to make sure it
behaves as you wish it to.

Scott

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RE: [Mailman-Users] Adding users via email - No confirmation wanted.

[Darryl Harvey]

Sounds ok, but.

It's not a once off, it's an ongoing thing.
They confirmation emails will cause havoc to our 500+ staff that will 
receive them, we don't want them to get ANY email about the list.

Getting closer, surely there must be some way to do it.

If you can do it via the web interface, why not via the email interface??

Any Mailman developers monitor this list ??

Darryl



At 06:31 AM 22/04/2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Darryl Harvey
Is there any way for a moderator (or list admin) to add
users via an email that doesn't result in a confirmation
email being sent to the actual user before they are a valid
subscriber?
Is there any option for NO approval (As long as the
moderator (or
admin)) is initiating this request ?
We have a closed list (internal company list) that needs to
be populated, we can subscribe them, but we cannot use the
web interface), we need to use the email interface, but we
do NOT want/need any confirmation sent to each user.
-

I see no answer via the list, so here goes.

If you're using 2.1.4, then do this...

First step should be to get your administrator to fiddle
with mm_cfg.py and set 'ALLOW_OPEN_SUBSCRIBE = Yes' and then
'DEFAULT_SUBSCRIBE_POLICY = 0'.
Then set the 'subscribe_policy' to 'none'.

Then send a message to the list with these details
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Body: subscribe requiredpassword
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
You'll get a whole bunch of confirmation mails, so just set
a rule to delete them. I'm not sure how to turn this
'feature' off.
If it's a once off, then go for it, but change back
afterwards.
Cheers
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RE: [Mailman-Users] Adding users via email - No confirmation wanted.

[mailman-users]

-Original Message-
From: Darryl Harvey

Is there any way for a moderator (or list admin) to add
users via an email that doesn't result in a confirmation
email being sent to the actual user before they are a valid
subscriber?

Is there any option for NO approval (As long as the
moderator (or
admin)) is initiating this request ?

We have a closed list (internal company list) that needs to
be populated, we can subscribe them, but we cannot use the
web interface), we need to use the email interface, but we
do NOT want/need any confirmation sent to each user.

-

I see no answer via the list, so here goes.

If you're using 2.1.4, then do this...

First step should be to get your administrator to fiddle
with mm_cfg.py and set 'ALLOW_OPEN_SUBSCRIBE = Yes' and then
'DEFAULT_SUBSCRIBE_POLICY = 0'.

Then set the 'subscribe_policy' to 'none'.

Then send a message to the list with these details
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Body: subscribe requiredpassword
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

You'll get a whole bunch of confirmation mails, so just set
a rule to delete them. I'm not sure how to turn this
'feature' off.

If it's a once off, then go for it, but change back
afterwards.

Cheers
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Re: [Mailman-Users] How to get "List creator's password" from root?

[Richard Barrett]

On 21 Apr 2004, at 10:26, Rajasekaran Deepak wrote:

Newbie question: I am not able to locate the admin who maintains 
Mailman on
the server. I need to create a new list. How do I get a "List creator's
(authentication) password" for use in 

from the root login?
In common with many UNIX passwords, you cannot retrieve site admin, 
list creator or list administrator passwords, even as superuser, 
because they are stored in an encrypted form.

You can however reset them to a given value. In the case of site admin 
and list creator passwords you need to run the $prefix/bin/mmsitepass 
script; run it with the -h option to get its usage.

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[Mailman-Users] How to get "List creator's password" from root?

[Rajasekaran Deepak]

Newbie question: I am not able to locate the admin who maintains Mailman on
the server. I need to create a new list. How do I get a "List creator's
(authentication) password" for use in 
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[Mailman-Users] Cpanel is trying to work on a couple of Mailman Issues - but We Need Help

[Lloyd F. Tennison]

We have the senior programmer at Cpanel trying to solve a couple 
of issues, 
*   that no uncaught bounces exist with lists with over 20,000 
(obviously wrong) with personalization on.
*   That Challenge/Verfiies disappear with personalization on, etc.

The problem is, they say that do not have access to a Mailman 
install without Cpanel.  If someone is willing to help us out with a 
non-Cpanel install on Mailman - so they can see how it is supposed 
to work, please let me know so that I can converse with them.

(Also, if there are any other glaring issues - maybe they can look at 
them at the same time - but no promises.)


Thanks.

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