Re: [Mailman-Users] Question?

[texas critter]

Richard Barrett wrote:

> On 9 May 2004, at 00:35, texas critter wrote:
>
> > Thomas Hochstein wrote:
> >
> >> Yes. Outlook (Express) is infamous for this more than strange display
> >> of headers.
> >
> > Do you have more specific info about this problem?
> >
>
> http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq02.003.htp

Ah!  That this problem only applies to Outlook, which, despite the name
similarity, is quite different from Outlook Express.  That FAQ entry says:

"In contrast many other MUAs including version of MS Outlook Express just
render the From field using the value of the From mail header."

Outlook does lots of strange things.  OE (other than the MS security
problems) behaves more normally.

hth,
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Question?

[Richard Barrett]

On 9 May 2004, at 00:35, texas critter wrote:

Thomas Hochstein wrote:

Rick Sipes schrieb:

What I'm talking about is instead of seeing it from me
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) for example, some, but not all of the recipients 
see
it coming from [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Yes. Outlook (Express) is infamous for this more than strange display
of headers.
Really?  I've been using OE and Mailman for several years and I've 
never
seen any kind of strange display of headers or the From field in any 
email.

Do you have more specific info about this problem?

http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq02.003.htp

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Question?

[texas critter]

Thomas Hochstein wrote:

> Rick Sipes schrieb:
>
> > What I'm talking about is instead of seeing it from me
> > ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) for example, some, but not all of the recipients see
> > it coming from [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
>
> Yes. Outlook (Express) is infamous for this more than strange display
> of headers.

Really?  I've been using OE and Mailman for several years and I've never
seen any kind of strange display of headers or the From field in any email.

Do you have more specific info about this problem?

hth,
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Weird error after upgrade

[Todd]

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Michael Mansour wrote:
> I run Fedora Core 1. When I try to start the service, I get the
> following error:
>
> # service mailman start
> Site list is missing: mailman
[...]
> Any ideas what this means? and how I can fix it?

In addition the the FAQ's pointed out by others, the FC rpm also
states this in the description:

Documentation can be found in: /usr/share/doc/mailman-2.1.4

When the package has finished installing, you will need to perform
some additional installation steps, these are described in:
/usr/share/doc/mailman-2.1.4/INSTALL.REDHAT

INSTALL.REDHAT tells you, among other things, to create the site-wide
list.

When in doubt and installing via a method other than original source,
it's always good to check out any docs included with the packaging
system you've used.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Question?

[Thomas Hochstein]

Rick Sipes schrieb:

> What I'm talking about is instead of seeing it from me 
> ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) for example, some, but not all of the recipients see 
> it coming from [EMAIL PROTECTED] .

Yes. Outlook (Express) is infamous for this more than strange display
of headers.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Weird error after upgrade

[Brad Knowles]

At 8:42 PM +1000 2004/05/08, Michael Mansour wrote:

 I run Fedora Core 1. When I try to start the service, I get the following
 error:
 # service mailman start
 Site list is missing: mailman
 and the mailmanctl process doesn't exist.
	See 
 
and 
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[Mailman-Users] Changing the name of a list

[John Poltorak]

What is the best way of changing the name of a list?



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Re: [Mailman-Users] Weird error after upgrade

[Richard Barrett]

On 8 May 2004, at 11:42, Michael Mansour wrote:

Hi,

I've recently performed an upgrade from 2.0.13 to 2.1.4, all list and 
such
were migrated fine.

I run Fedora Core 1. When I try to start the service, I get the 
following
error:

# service mailman start
Site list is missing: mailman
and the mailmanctl process doesn't exist.

Going through the startup script it shows the following command is run 
on
startup:

# /var/mailman/bin/mailmanctl -s -q start

So running that manually also produces the following error:

Site list is missing: mailman

Any ideas what this means? and how I can fix it?

Thanks.

Michael.

Starting with MM 2.1 a site-wide list, default name 'mailman', is 
required. This default name can be changed in mm_cfg. py; look in 
Defaults.py for more info if you want to do this.

This requirement is made clear in INSTALL documentation files in the 
Mailman 2.1.x source releases. Maybe this information did not make into 
the installer you are using if you are not installing from source.

mailmanctl will not start the qrunner daemons if this list does not 
exist; just like the error message says.

Simple solution is use bin/newlist to create a mailing list called 
'mailman'.

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[Mailman-Users] how to arrange a list with 'affiliate' members

[Barnaby Scott]

I am trying to configure a list or group of lists to
exhibit the following behaviour, but have been having
trouble:

I run a list called 'discuss', which is a discussion
list for members of our organisation. We would also
like to invite a handful of people to be 'affiliate'
members, but who would not have quite the same
experience of the list.

We want these 'affiliate members' to be able to post
to 'discuss', and any replies to their posts to be
distributed to them. In addition we would like regular
members to be able to insert a keyword to indicate
that the conversation they are starting is to include
these 'affiliate members'. But for all other list
traffic, they would excluded.

The most obvious mechanism would be to subscribe the
affilate members as full members of 'discuss' and use
Topics - restricting them to receive only posts with
[affiliate] in the subject. However, I can see no way
of preventing them lifting this restriction from
themselves, and in any case they would be obliged to
remember to use the keyword if they wanted any
replies.

The only other solution I could think of was to have
another list - say 'open', of which 'discuss' was a
member. This would allow control of who was an
affiliate member, and would take care of inbound posts
to 'discuss'. However, to allow replies back to the
affiliate members would involve either:

 *Having the 'discuss's reply-to UN-munged (which I am
against because we have 100% non-technical people, and
no replies would ever reach any list at all if they
had to remember to hit 'reply to all'!)

 or 

 *Having 'open' being a member of 'discuss' (in
addition to 'discuss' being a member of 'open').
Presumably this is what is technically known as a BAD
THING!

I wouldn't be at all surprised if I have overlooked
something very obvious - in any case all suggestions
would be very gratefully received!

Thanks




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Re: [Mailman-Users] Auto-discard notification

[Jim Tittsler]

On May 8, 2004, at 19:48, John Poltorak wrote:

Is there any to make auto-discard notification work quietly?
Did you set forward_auto_discards to No on the Privacy options... 
Sender filters... page for the list?

Should messages from non-members, which are automatically
discarded, be forwarded to the list moderator?   NO   Yes
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Weird error after upgrade

[Jim Tittsler]

On May 8, 2004, at 19:42, Michael Mansour wrote:

Site list is missing: mailman

Any ideas what this means? and how I can fix it?
Mailman 2.1.2 and later presume the existence of a site-wide list  
called 'mailman', which is used for password reminders.

The error isn't *that* weird.  It is mentioned in the FAQ:
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py? 
query=site+list&querytype=simple&casefold=yes&req=search

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[Mailman-Users] Auto-discard notification

[John Poltorak]

Is there any to make auto-discard notification work quietly?

I just don't want scores of email telling me posts by non-subscribers have 
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[Mailman-Users] Weird error after upgrade

[Michael Mansour]

Hi,

I've recently performed an upgrade from 2.0.13 to 2.1.4, all list and such 
were migrated fine.

I run Fedora Core 1. When I try to start the service, I get the following 
error:

# service mailman start
Site list is missing: mailman

and the mailmanctl process doesn't exist.

Going through the startup script it shows the following command is run on 
startup:

# /var/mailman/bin/mailmanctl -s -q start

So running that manually also produces the following error:

Site list is missing: mailman

Any ideas what this means? and how I can fix it?

Thanks.

Michael.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] (no subject)

[Jim Tittsler]

On May 8, 2004, at 17:41, Sean Carnahan wrote:
Is there a way to mass remove members that are flagged as excessive 
bounces?
You can get a list of members whose subscriptions to 'mylist' have been 
disabled by bounces using
  'bin/list_members --nomail=bybounce mylist'
and you can unsubscribe members using bin/remove_members.

$ bin/list_members --nomail=bybounce mylist | bin/remove_members -n -N 
-f - mylist

(Check the options for remove_members.  You may want to use --fromall 
as well.)



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[Mailman-Users] (no subject)

[Sean Carnahan]

Is there a way to mass remove members that are flagged as excessive bounces?


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