[Mailman-Users] personalised emails
Hello All, I am new to mailman and mailing list software. I am trying to setup a mailing list for a charity which would like to send periodic emails to the patrons. They would like to send emails but dont want the users to email each other so I am thinking of setting up a readonly list. I am not sure if mailman is able to send personalised email. I did search on this and it looks like the definition of personalised email is different to the definition I use! When I mean personalised email I mean the content should be able to address the recipient using their own name used in the subscriber list. From what I gathered others mean personalised email as the recipient field showing the users email address and not the list email address? I dont want to send generic emails. Is this doable? Instructions would be nice but pointers at docs are very welcome. I would prefer a polite answer and not RTFM Many thanks in advance Mat - Email provided by http://www.ntlhome.com/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] personalised emails
--On Tuesday, July 20, 2004 9:32 am + [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All, I am new to mailman and mailing list software. I am trying to setup a mailing list for a charity which would like to send periodic emails to the patrons. They would like to send emails but dont want the users to email each other so I am thinking of setting up a readonly list. I am not sure if mailman is able to send personalised email. I did search on this and it looks like the definition of personalised email is different to the definition I use! When I mean personalised email I mean the content should be able to address the recipient using their own name used in the subscriber list. From what I gathered others mean personalised email as the recipient field showing the users email address and not the list email address? I dont want to send generic emails. Is this doable? Instructions would be nice but pointers at docs are very welcome. I would prefer a polite answer and not RTFM It is doable, but not with mailman, afaik. What you need is not list software, but mailmerge software. I don't know about other platforms, but if you have MacOSX there's a list of mailmerge software here. Much of it shareware, none of it free: http://www.versiontracker.com/php/search.php?mode=basicaction=searchstr=mail+mergeplt%5B%5D=macosxx=13y=8 Many thanks in advance Mat - Email provided by http://www.ntlhome.com/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ -- Ian Eiloart Servers Team Sussex University ITS -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Host server needed
Dear All I am currently at the University of East London and the IT department there using mailman to run various email groups including one for me which functions as a support group for former members of a cult. However I am changing jobs at the beginning of October so I need to find a new host. I would prefer not to use the university I am moving to (in any case I dont know yet whether they use mailman) so I am looking for someone to host this for me. If you think you can help (and i am aware that cost will be involved) could you please contact me to discuss this. Many thanks Jill -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Mailman -1 requests still
I tried copying the pck files and managed to just fubar up the config for the mailman list where it thought it was the same as the other list that I copied from. i did an rmlist -a mailman stopped the mailman services newlist mailman start mailman services at 8 AM this morning. I got the message still The [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list has -1 request(s) waiting for your consideration at: http://paleale.networkgeek.org/mailman/admindb/mailman Please attend to this at your earliest convenience. This notice of wtf Its a special list so I cant go check on it, I can't configure it at all. This is driving me BATTY. --Daniel Powell pending requests, if any, will be sent out daily. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] personalised emails
At 9:32 AM + 2004-07-20, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I dont want to send generic emails. Is this doable? Instructions would be nice but pointers at docs are very welcome. I would prefer a polite answer and not RTFM The short answer is that a certain amount of customization is possible, but there are limits to what Mailman can do. The long answer is basically RTFM. As starting points, see http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.018.htp and http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.037.htp. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Host server needed
At 11:37 AM +0100 2004-07-20, Jill Mytton wrote: However I am changing jobs at the beginning of October so I need to find a new host. I would prefer not to use the university I am moving to (in any case I dont know yet whether they use mailman) so I am looking for someone to host this for me. See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq01.017.htp. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Mail not going through to all lists
There was a power outage and now Mailman isn't working., The web admin pages function, but mail is not going through. From the FAQ, I think it is a stale lock. I've found two locks: -rw-rw-r-- 2 mailman mailman 67 20 Jul 19:51 master-qrunner -rw-rw-r-- 2 mailman mailman 67 20 Jul 19:51 master-qrunner.www.pharmacy.pitt.edu.453 Do I simply remove one or both of these? Thx, -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] convert config.db to pck?
I want to move lists from one machine (mailman 2.0.x) to a newer 2.1.x
installation. Assuming I
- tailor new host http.conf as needed
- set mmsitepass on new
- modify mm_cfg.py,
- use web redirects from the old to the new
- redirect aliases on old to new
- scp $MAILMAN/archive/private/LISTNAME{.mbox to new host
- genalias on new host
- run $MAILMAN//bin/update -f on new host
I still need to copy over and convert $MAILMAN/lists/LISTNAME*
right? I presume the big deal is {config|request}.db. I can use dumpdb to
get that to ascii, how do I load it into the new as config.pck?
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Re: [Mailman-Users] error indexing message by date in archive
Guillaume Rousse wrote: The attached testcase mbox, when processed by the archive script, wrongly index the first mail to currente date (july 2004) instead of its real date (february 2002). CUriously, the second one is OK. Any idea ? I finally found what the problem is. The archiver is unable to parse correctly the first date format: Date: 05 Feb 2002 14:44:57 +0100 Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 16:31:01 +0100 As the RFC specify the day is optional, I tend to consider this as a bug in Mailman. Shall I report this problem on mailman bug tracker ? -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Free listservers. Archives. Attachments. Microsoft software.
What free listservers are there with archives that will display the text of messages with attachments formatted in microsoft software like .doc ?... -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Free web based discussions. Archives. Attachments. Microsoft software.
What free web based discussions are there with archives that will display the text of messages with attachments formatted in microsoft software like .doc ? -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Question regarding newsletter mailout
Hello, I have no idea if I am contacting someone who may be able to assist me. For the past couple of months we have had some weird things happen when we send out our newsletter. One member got 4 copies, another didn't get his at all and last month, we had about 20 people who didn't get it either. Any suggestions would be very much appreciated. Thank you, Lori -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Help
We have recently lost our webkeeper and I am trying to mail out this newsletter that we have set up through mailman. I know nothing, can you tell me what to do? Julie Julie Nelson Development Coordinator Casting Certification Coordinator Federation of Fly Fishers [EMAIL PROTECTED] 406-585-7592 -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Mailman
Does mailman archive messages? If so, whre does it archive them to. Thanks. Bill -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Lists
Hi, I am interested in your mailing lists, but am curious how secure the lists are - are names distributed to any companies? (I am basically concerned about spam, since it is a free service) Thanks! Kristal Kristal Hebden School of IST 329H IST Building University Park PA 16802 Phone: 814-863-8833 Fax: 814-865-7559 __ I did not wish to live what was not life, living is so dear; nor did I wish to practise resignation, unless it was quite necessary. - H.D. Thoreau -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Mailman question
Hello sorry to trouble you with my question. Does Mailman address list recipients individually? I am currently doing an (opt-in!) e-mail newsletter distributed via Smartlist. Smartlist and Majordomo do not address recipients individually. In other words, an e-mail send to a list via Smartlist in the TO field has the name of the list NOT the e-mail address of the recipient. This results in several ISPs dumping the e-mail into the spam bin. If my question is unclear, I'll subscribe to a list using Mailman and see what the output looks like. Thanks, Chas Etheridge webmaster, LUMC -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help (tracing spam)
uhud wrote: I have newly installed mailman and for privacy reasons decided to hide members (senders) email addresses when they send a message to the list. My question is, suppose now a member spams the list, is there a way I can find out which member it is? The Received: headers should give a clue. They contain the names and/or IP addresses of the machine that originated the mail and the servers it passed through. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Question regarding newsletter mailout
lori petersen wrote: For the past couple of months we have had some weird things happen when we send out our newsletter. One member got 4 copies, another didn't get his at all and last month, we had about 20 people who didn't get it either. This is unlikely to be a Mailman issue. It is more likely an MTA issue or something beyond your control. Check your mailman and MTA logs to see if things are being sent and if bounces are reported. Multiple copies received can be due to MTA delivery issues resulting in retries sending a message that was already received. Missing messages can be due to bounces, spam filtering, ISP blocking and a host of other things. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman questions
On Jul 19, 2004, at 5:46 PM, Jen Onsum wrote: I have three questions about Mailman... 1) Is there a way to list the entire membership list on one page, instead of having a different page for each letter of the alphabet? You could change the DEFAULT_ADMIN_MEMBER_CHUNKSIZE variable to something large. Beware that some browsers (IE) will crap out if this number is too high. 2) When mass subscribing people, everyone is automatically set to receive plain mailings. Is there a way for people not to be automatically set to receive plain mailings when mass subscribing? It's getting really annoying going through and unchecking 'plain' for thousands of subscribers. That setting is for the Digest preference and has no bearing on regular delivery. 3) Mailman is adding a footer to my mailings when it sends them out. How can I stop it from doing this? See 'Non-digest options'. -Jeff -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Free listservers. Archives. Attachments. Microsoft software.
At 9:42 AM -0400 2004-07-20, Don Saklad wrote: What free listservers are there with archives that will display the text of messages with attachments formatted in microsoft software like .doc ?... You mean automatically convert those documents into a more readable format? No. If you search the archives of the list, you'll see recent discussions of freely available tools that you can use to do those kinds of conversions yourself, but I don't think anyone is ever going to incorporate those kinds of programs into a mailing list management system, at least not by default. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Question regarding newsletter mailout
At 11:42 AM -0700 2004-07-17, lori petersen wrote: For the past couple of months we have had some weird things happen when we send out our newsletter. One member got 4 copies, another didn't get his at all and last month, we had about 20 people who didn't get it either. Any suggestions would be very much appreciated. This is probably a problem with the providers of your recipients, but without more data it's impossible to tell. See also http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq01.022.htp. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman questions
At 4:46 PM -0500 2004-07-19, Jen Onsum wrote: 2) When mass subscribing people, everyone is automatically set to receive plain mailings. Is there a way for people not to be automatically set to receive plain mailings when mass subscribing? It's getting really annoying going through and unchecking 'plain' for thousands of subscribers. This is only for the digest mode. When the list is created, you can choose what kind of digest mode to use by default. You can also set the default digest mode that will be used for all new subscribers after the configuration change, in the Digest Options section of the web admin page for your list. 3) Mailman is adding a footer to my mailings when it sends them out. How can I stop it from doing this? See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.039.htp. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help
At 5:53 PM +0300 2004-07-19, uhud wrote: My question is, suppose now a member spams the list, is there a way I can find out which member it is? Check your logs and the Received: headers of the message. See also http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq01.022.htp. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Lists
At 8:53 AM -0400 2004-07-15, Kristal Hebden wrote: I am interested in your mailing lists, but am curious how secure the lists are - are names distributed to any companies? (I am basically concerned about spam, since it is a free service) I don't understand your question. Can you clarify? By default, mailing lists created via Mailman will be publicly accessible, but the mailing list administrator can choose to create private lists instead. The list archives can either be public or private, separately from the list itself (i.e., you can have private archives of a public list, or public archives of a private list, in addition to the obvious choices). You can also choose not to archive lists. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help
At 3:24 PM -0600 2004-07-19, Julie Nelson wrote: We have recently lost our webkeeper and I am trying to mail out this newsletter that we have set up through mailman. I know nothing, can you tell me what to do? Not without a lot more information. See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq02.004.htp, the Mailman user documentation at http://www.list.org/users.html, and also http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq01.022.htp. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman
At 8:24 PM -0600 2004-07-19, Mr. Bill wrote: Does mailman archive messages? If so, whre does it archive them to. It can, yes. Assuming you installed Mailman in /usr/local/mailman (the default, if you installed from source), they would be in /usr/local/mailman/archives on the server where Mailman is running. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Re: inserting comments into list of banned members
Try this again. Mailman provides mechanisms for creating lists of rejected nonmembers, accepted nonmembers, etc. Also, regular expressions can be included within these lists. My question is, can comments be included, either between listings, or at the bottom? Something like: rejected_nonmembers ___ ceo @ spamstersinternational.com ### ceo is a spammer - 2004. jdoe @ xxx.net ### jdoe is permanently banned from the list. sales @ bigco.com ### bigco is now owned by gigantico - 2004. ___ Is there a way to do this? What would the syntax be inside the nonmembers list? Thanks for any help. Richard -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: inserting comments into list of banned members
On Jul 20, 2004, at 10:42 AM, Richard wrote: rejected_nonmembers ___ ceo @ spamstersinternational.com ### ceo is a spammer - 2004. jdoe @ xxx.net ### jdoe is permanently banned from the list. sales @ bigco.com ### bigco is now owned by gigantico - 2004. ___ Is there a way to do this? What would the syntax be inside the nonmembers list? It can't be done as you've shown in your example, because Mailman checks for an '@' and a '.' in each line when you click submit changes. You could, however, do something like: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Doing so, of course doubles the number of checks each incoming post will undergo. Dan -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: inserting comments into list of banned members
Richard wrote: My question is, can comments be included, either between listings, or at the bottom? Something like: rejected_nonmembers ___ ceo @ spamstersinternational.com ### ceo is a spammer - 2004. jdoe @ xxx.net ### jdoe is permanently banned from the list. sales @ bigco.com ### bigco is now owned by gigantico - 2004. ___ Is there a way to do this? What would the syntax be inside the nonmembers list? Presumably, anything that didn't actually match an e-mail address or look like a regular expression that could match an e-mail address wouldn't do any harm. The question is will Mailman accept such entries in these fields. A brief test seems to say it won't. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Personalization comes through as attachment
When I set up personalization with mailman, I get it normally in most mail clients. But in Outlook, it's coming through as an attachment. Is there any way to fix this? Do I need to upgrade my mailman? Using Mailman version: 2.1.2 Anne -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Personalization comes through as attachment
Anne Ramey wrote: When I set up personalization with mailman, I get it normally in most mail clients. But in Outlook, it's coming through as an attachment. Is there any way to fix this? Do I need to upgrade my mailman? Using Mailman version: 2.1.2 See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.039.htp -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Personalization comes through as attachment
At 3:31 PM -0400 2004-07-20, Anne Ramey wrote: When I set up personalization with mailman, I get it normally in most mail clients. But in Outlook, it's coming through as an attachment. Is there any way to fix this? Do I need to upgrade my mailman? See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.039.htp and http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq02.003.htp. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman questions
At 2:44 PM -0500 2004-07-20, Jen Onsum wrote: Thanks for the response! In the link you included it said I can configure Mailman to remove the footer, but it does not say how. Can you direct me? You'd have to edit the templates on the server for that list, removing the footers, etc -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help (tracing spam)
On 7/20/2004 7:13, Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: uhud wrote: I have newly installed mailman and for privacy reasons decided to hide members (senders) email addresses when they send a message to the list. My question is, suppose now a member spams the list, is there a way I can find out which member it is? The Received: headers should give a clue. They contain the names and/or IP addresses of the machine that originated the mail and the servers it passed through. And, of course, potentially forged Received: headers for machines which never touched the message. This is part of what makes reading Received: headers fun. --John -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman
On 7/20/2004 7:36, Jeff Barger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 19, 2004, at 10:24 PM, Mr. Bill wrote: Does mailman archive messages? If so, whre does it archive them to. The raw mailbox archive is in $PREFIX/archives/private/list.mbox/. The HTML'd messages are in $PREFIX/archives/private/list/ Which carries with it the implication that $PREFIX should not be within a small file system, but rather a large one. The default /usr/local/... may well be small (it may also be large). --John -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Customizing Listinfo page
Using Mailman 2.1.4 on FreeBSD I am attempting to edit the listinfo.html template file so that the edit subscriber options form appears before the subscription form as this is more practical for supporting my user base. I have successfully switched the two forms on the listinfo page and made minor edits to make it more user friendly but have encountered one problem. If a user enters an address that is not subscribed to the list and then presses the Unsubscribe or Edit Options button (which I have renamed to Edit My Options) a bug traceback screen results. In the original unedited listinfo page if the address is not subscribed mailman is able to tell the user this without producing a bug traceback. A modified listinfo page for one of the lists is available for viewing here: http://groups.michbar.org/mailman/listinfo/aces Attached is my modified listinfo.html template file and the traceback report. Any help in pointing out how I might have incorrectly modified the listinfo.html file to cause this error is greatly appreciated. -Brendan Bug in Mailman version 2.1.4 We're sorry, we hit a bug! If you would like to help us identify the problem, please email a copy of this page to the webmaster for this site with a description of what happened. Thanks! Traceback: Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/local/mailman/scripts/driver, line 87, in run_main main() File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/options.py, line 226, in main password, user): File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/SecurityManager.py, line 220, in WebAuthenticate ok = self.CheckCookie(ac, user) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/SecurityManager.py, line 300, in CheckCookie ok = self.__checkone(c, authcontext, user) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/SecurityManager.py, line 310, in __checkone key, secret = self.AuthContextInfo(authcontext, user) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/SecurityManager.py, line 105, in AuthContextInfo secret = self.getMemberPassword(user) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/OldStyleMemberships.py, line 102, in getMemberPassword raise Errors.NotAMemberError, member NotAMemberError: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Python information: VariableValue sys.version 2.3.3 (#2, Apr 21 2004, 16:37:47) [GCC 2.95.4 20020320 [FreeBSD]] sys.executable /usr/local/bin/python sys.prefix /usr/local sys.exec_prefix /usr/local sys.path/usr/local sys.platformfreebsd4 Environment variables: VariableValue HTTP_REFERERhttp://groups.michbar.org/mailman/listinfo/aces SERVER_SOFTWARE Apache/1.3.27 OpenSSL/0.9.7 (Unix) PHP/4.3.6 SCRIPT_NAME /mailman/options SERVER_SIGNATURE Apache/1.3.27 OpenSSL/0.9.7 Server at groups.michbar.org Port 80 REQUEST_METHOD POST HTTP_KEEP_ALIVE 300 SERVER_PROTOCOL HTTP/1.1 QUERY_STRING CONTENT_LENGTH 65 HTTP_ACCEPT_CHARSET ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7 HTTP_USER_AGENT Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040614 Firefox/0.8 HTTP_CONNECTION keep-alive HTTP_COOKIE site=28020069a235fd4073280031363234326633366263373430373238363966366235306462353965303164366239633965613633 SERVER_NAME groups.michbar.org REMOTE_ADDR 134.215.212.178 PATH_TRANSLATED /usr/local/apache/htdocs/listserv/aces SERVER_PORT 80 SERVER_ADDR 198.66.208.45 DOCUMENT_ROOT /usr/local/apache/htdocs/listserv/ PYTHONPATH /usr/local/mailman SCRIPT_FILENAME /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/options SERVER_ADMIN[EMAIL PROTECTED] HTTP_HOST groups.michbar.org REQUEST_URI /mailman/options/aces HTTP_ACCEPT application/x-shockwave-flash,text/xml,application/xml,application/xhtml+xml,text/html;q=0.9,text/plain;q=0.8,video/x-mng,image/png,image/jpeg,image/gif;q=0.2,*/*;q=0.1 GATEWAY_INTERFACE CGI/1.1 REMOTE_PORT 17939 HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGEen-us,en;q=0.5 CONTENT_TYPEapplication/x-www-form-urlencoded HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODINGgzip,deflate PATH_INFO /aces -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Question regarding newsletter mailout
On 7/17/2004 11:42, lori petersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For the past couple of months we have had some weird things happen when we send out our newsletter. One member got 4 copies, another didn't get his at all and last month, we had about 20 people who didn't get it either. If the number of recipients who fail to receive the newsletter varies per month, it's quite possible that your newsletter's formatting or content is typically fairly close to triggering spam filters, and some months it does so for more users than other months. On the other hand, only 20 failed recipients would make many list operators very happy. [Aside: one might expect correctly-spelled medical terms would no longer trigger filters, but that doesn't seem to be the case.] --John -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Delay in mailman passing messages
Every since switching to mailman, I have been vexed by a performance problem. Originally, I thought it was my old server. It was getting long in the tooth and in the need of retiring. Last month I replaced it and got my lists up and running with no problem on the new server. However, my problem did not go away. Specifically my problem is there is a delay of anywhere from 15 minutes to several hours in Mailman's processing of a message. Mail receives the message but then takes a long time passing it to sendmail. I am not talking about delivery time - That can take an additional 5 hours but is a different issue. I am talking about the time it takes for Mailman to process the message. After my signature are Received: lines from example messages. A couple of notes and/or important info: 1.I have tried the Run a sendmail receiver just for Mailman suggestion found in the FAQs. Nothing changes in the delay. 2.Have tried running multiple copies(4 qrunners) of the qrunners. No change. 3.Virtually no change in behavior in the delay between a 450 MHZ server running 6.1 Linux with 1 meg memory to 3 GHZ server running 9.0 Linux with 1 meg memory. 4.Nothing out of the ordinary about the messages with the longest delays as best I can tell. They come form all over the globe from all kinds of email systems and encompass all types of emails. There are no errors in the error logs. 5.No messages or clues in any of the logs for that matter. They just read like everything is a pretty day in the park 6.A total of 8 lists that are small: Biggest is 500 subscribers with 30-50 messages a day 7.The messages are scanned for viruses and SPAM but according to maillog that takes only a second or two and then the message is passed to mailman. Spencer Yost Owner, ATIS Plow the Net! http://www.atis.net Here are the examples. YOST is my PC, heavyiron.atis.net is the server that runs mailman and is the sendmail host and the priority 1 mx host for the domain Pretty quick example(about 25 minutes) === Received: from heavyiron.atis.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by heavyiron.atis.net (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id i6JFwMQ7009466;Mon, 19 Jul 2004 11:58:22 -0400 Received: from YOST ([192.168.2.203]) by heavyiron.atis.net (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id i6JFYF3667; Mon, 19 Jul 2004 11:34:15 -0400 A Slow message(6 hours) == Received: from heavyiron.atis.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by heavyiron.atis.net (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id i6JA0ZGJ005199;Mon, 19 Jul 2004 06:00:35 -0400 Received: from YOST ([192.168.2.203]) by heavyiron.atis.net (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id i6J3r2Lf026350for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 18 Jul 2004 23:53:02 -0400 -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Delay in mailman passing messages
At 7:52 PM -0400 2004-07-20, Spencer Yost wrote: Specifically my problem is there is a delay of anywhere from 15 minutes to several hours in Mailman's processing of a message. Mail receives the message but then takes a long time passing it to sendmail. I am not talking about delivery time - That can take an additional 5 hours but is a different issue. I am talking about the time it takes for Mailman to process the message. After my signature are Received: lines from example messages. What version of Mailman are you running? Have you looked at http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.041.htp and confirmed that you're not having any of these problems? 1.I have tried the Run a sendmail receiver just for Mailman suggestion found in the FAQs. Nothing changes in the delay. If the delays are internal to Mailman, then this won't make a difference. 2.Have tried running multiple copies(4 qrunners) of the qrunners. No change. This kind of thing works for sendmail servers, where you can run multiple parallel sendmail queue runner processes. I am not convinced that this strategy works for Mailman, however. 3.Virtually no change in behavior in the delay between a 450 MHZ server running 6.1 Linux with 1 meg memory to 3 GHZ server running 9.0 Linux with 1 meg memory. 1MB of memory?!? Surely you mean something else -- maybe 1GB? Shortage of RAM can be a serious problem. If you don't have enough RAM, you can pretty much forget about everything else. 4.Nothing out of the ordinary about the messages with the longest delays as best I can tell. They come form all over the globe from all kinds of email systems and encompass all types of emails. There are no errors in the error logs. That sounds like a systemic problem. 6.A total of 8 lists that are small: Biggest is 500 subscribers with 30-50 messages a day Assuming the rest of the machine is configured correctly, that should be a walk in the park, at least as far as Mailman is concerned. I've run larger lists on smaller servers, and until recently all the python.org mailing lists (including all the mailman-related lists) were running on a smaller machine, and with way more recipients. Keep in mind that when we talk about mail performance tuning, a lot of the same issues are applicable to Mailman as they are sendmail, or postfix, or exim, or whatever. There's lots of good stuff at http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq06.003.htp which you should take a look at, but in particular disk configuration and filesystem layout can be two huge bottlenecks. Your best reference here would be to get a copy of Nick Christenson's book _sendmail Performance Tuning_ and apply the lower-level techniques to your situation, and leave out just the sendmail-specific stuff. You could apply the sendmail-specific stuff at a later time, but the rest should be applicable to any related process, such as Mailman. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] inserting comments into list of banned members
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Hi Folks - I want to create lists of accepted non- members, rejected nonmembers, etc. Can comments be inserted be or below the list? Something like: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ### ceo is spam - 2004. You need what Mailman thinks may be a valid email address, so you can feed it one by cheating... [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] the second one acts as a comment that is never used as a real one. Regards Rod -- Rod Neep Archive CD Books : http://www.archivecdbooks.org British-Genealogy: http://www.british-genealogy.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman questions
Brad Knowles wrote in reply to off list message: At 2:44 PM -0500 2004-07-20, Jen Onsum wrote: Thanks for the response! In the link you included it said I can configure Mailman to remove the footer, but it does not say how. Can you direct me? You'd have to edit the templates on the server for that list, removing the footers, etc Or as mentioned in two other replies to your original post, go to your list administration Non-digest options page and delete all the text in the Footer box and click Submit Your Changes. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Wish List
Wiping the egg from my face I guess it was a combination of things including that you seem to answer most of the questions on the list and frequent the list much more often than Barry, and there is some little thing about both being B names ;-) I can tell I've been working far too many hours. --Richard On 10 Jul 2004 at 1:42, Brad Knowles wrote: At 4:00 PM -0600 2004-07-09, Richard B. Pyne wrote: I have been using Mailman for several years and want to thank Brad for such a fine product. It's not my product. If people are now confusing me with Barry Warsaw, maybe it's time for me to leave the list. 2) Per (virtual) domain list names, i.e. allowing [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] to co-exist within one installation of mailman. There are some patches which exist that help address this problem today, but they may not apply cleanly for your installation. See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.047.htp. I know that these are probably not trivial changes, but just want to get them on the radar screen for future enhancement. I can say that better handling of virtual domains is on the list of desired features for Mailman3, but you need to talk to Barry to find out where on that list, and how things are going. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Wish List
At 8:12 PM -0600 2004-07-20, Richard B. Pyne wrote: I guess it was a combination of things including that you seem to answer most of the questions on the list and frequent the list much more often than Barry, and there is some little thing about both being B names ;-) Hmm. If I am answering too many questions, then maybe it is time for me to leave. Barry can't be on this list very much due to work/time conflicts, and I think you'll agree that his time is better spent working on creating code for upcoming versions of Mailman, working out strategies for incorporating chunks of code from other people, etc I can tell I've been working far too many hours. Maybe I have too. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Runaway OutgoingRunner process
Hi all, I seem to have a process that has a mind of its own. It keeps consuming CPU (as much as it can get), but it doesn't seem to be doing anything. No logs are getting updated, and no actions are being performed. This seemed to start this morning when a user was dropped from a list due to an inactive mail account, but I can't seem to narrow down what the process is doing. Restarting the qrunner's has no effect. It seems to be trying to send a message to the list owners. There are files being created and destroyed very quickly in the qmail/out directory. I was able to copy one of the .pck files to another file before it disappeared which is the only way I know. I've not been able to catch one of the .db files to determine the message contents. Any help in debugging/fixing this problem is greatly appreciated. Dave David Carter mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Senior Modeling Engineer OPNET Technologies, Inc. http://www.opnet.com/ phone 240.497.3000 x2743 = Register for OPNET's Online Technology Workshops http://www.opnet.com/TechWorkshops/ = Register for OPNETWORK 2004 (Aug 30 - Sept 3, Washington DC) http://www.opnet.com/opnetwork2004/ = -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
