Re: [Mailman-Users] create list on subscribe
martin == martin f krafft martin writes: martin I want to create a listserv to allow folks to subscribe to martin single bugs in the Debian BTS. Instead of creating the martin 27 lists up front, I want them to be created as people martin subscribe (if the list name matches a regexp or list of martin conditions). martin I know Mailman better than any other MLM, so I would not martin mind using it for this task. However, I am not sure it can martin do what I want. martin If Mailman can't be tweaked into doing this, do you guys martin know of a software than can do it? Roundup is a BTS that works exactly as you say, with some extra features for auto-subscribing the submitter and people who have expressed interest in that category. If you throw away the MLM and replace it with a hook into Mailman, and you create a bug db backend that just talks to the Debian BTS, maybe you get what you want. The reason I think this crackpot idea may have some merit is that Roundup is written in Python, so you might have less trouble with the tight flexible integration I suspect you need here. http://sourceforge.net/projects/roundup -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of TsukubaTennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can do free software business; ask what your business can do for free software. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Sign-up User problem
At 12:41 PM -0400 2004-09-10, Nancy Swizynski wrote: Yesterday our main diocese site was down and someone from outside our network was trying to sign up for my list-serv and was not able to. What reason did they give for making this claim? My question is if our main diocese website is down does that impact the ability for new persons outside our network to sign up for the list-serv. If so or not what can I do to solve this problem. A lot depends on your configuration. If you route all incoming and outgoing e-mail through them, then that will at least delay subscriptions, if you are configured to require confirmation, etc If you run your Mailman web interface on one system and the mail server side on another machine, that could cause similar problems (if the web server side were to go down). Otherwise, the only problem that people are likely to have is that they won't be able to click on a link from the main site to take them to your site, where they could subscribe. However, if they know the URL, they should still be able to go to your server directly. I'm not sure that there's much more you can do to help people find out what your URL is so that they can go to your site directly. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Postfix integration.
At 7:56 PM -0500 2004-09-08, Eric Renfro wrote: How could I get use mailman/lists to generate a postfix route map, so I could have a usable recipient map somewhat similar to what's shown at: http://archives.neohapsis.com/archives/postfix/2004-01/0207.html If you follow the instructions in the README.POSTFIX file (see http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/mailman/mailman/README.POSTFIX?rev=2.11.2.5view=markup), specifically the section marked INTEGRATING POSTFIX AND MAILMAN, then the aliases will automatically be generated for you and you won't have the problem of accepting garbage for random e-mail addresses at your site. You won't need the postfix route map stuff. That said, if you still want to go this way, I think you're going to have to make modifications to the Mailman source code. We've created one way to address this problem which has been sufficient so far, and if you need something else, then you need to develop the code to do that (or get someone else to develop the code for you). Of course, if you do this, we would appreciate having that code contributed back to the project so that others may benefit. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Problems with digests
Hello I'm running a server with several lists. At least two of them have digest subscribers, but, about a month ago the digest stoped being sent (In reality some days they are sent, most they aren't). I've checked the options and they seem ok (at least according to the docs I could get my hands on), I've checked that the senddigest cron job is executed, the messages are cleaned (as if they had been sent) but no digests are really sent. I've checked the logs and found nothing and so I would like to know what other things I could try to fix and/or find the problem. I'm using a Debian Sarge system (updated), with mailman 2.1.5, sendmail 8.13.1 (the problem started when sendmail wast stil 8.12.x), python 2.3.4 BTW, sendmail has smrsh enabled... Thanks for any help and best regards -- Mario Filipe [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://neptuno.sc.uevora.pt/~mjnf signature.asc Description: Esta =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=E9?= uma parte de mensagem assinada digitalmente -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Implicit destination
Hello I can i configure a list to receive messages with implicit destination, so that they wont bounce for approval? Is it enough to set require_explicit_destination to no? Apart from the spam are there any other consequences to such a configuration? Thanks -- Mario Filipe [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://neptuno.sc.uevora.pt/~mjnf signature.asc Description: Esta =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=E9?= uma parte de mensagem assinada digitalmente -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] UnicodeEncodeError in Logger.py
Hi,
I've got an incoming spam message with Subject: Aprenda informática em
casa. When I attempt to discard it, Mailman ran into trouble. The
problem and my fix are below.
Regards,
David
# Patch #
--- Logger.py.orig 2004-09-02 08:45:52.0 -0400
+++ Logger.py 2004-09-14 07:19:52.0 -0400
@@ -89,7 +89,7 @@
f = self.__get_f()
try:
f.write(msg)
-except IOError, msg:
+except (IOError, UnicodeError), msg:
_logexc(self, msg)
def writelines(self, lines):
# Problem
Bug in Mailman version 2.1.5
We're sorry, we hit a bug!
If you would like to help us identify the problem, please email a copy
of this page to the webmaster for this site with a description of what
happened. Thanks!
Traceback:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File /usr/lib/mailman/scripts/driver, line 87, in run_main
main()
File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admindb.py, line 163, in main
process_form(mlist, doc, cgidata)
File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admindb.py, line 711, in
process_form
forward, forwardaddr)
File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/ListAdmin.py, line 159, in
HandleRequest
forward, addr)
File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/ListAdmin.py, line 345, in
__handlepost
syslog('vette', note)
File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Logging/Syslog.py, line 40, in write
self.write_ex(kind, msg, args, kws)
File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Logging/Syslog.py, line 58, in
write_ex
logf.write(msg + '\n')
File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Logging/StampedLogger.py, line 73, in
write
Logger.write(self, %s %s % (prefix, msg))
File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Logging/Logger.py, line 91, in write
f.write(msg)
UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode character u'\xe1' in
position 122: ordinal not in range(128)
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Re: Fwd: Re: [Mailman-Users] OutgoingRunner Failing
David Richards wrote: Hi Brian, I have seen the same problem as you described in your post, I was running a shared installation via NFS. With OutgoingRunner's running on each box. Would you expect this to have the same results? While the idea of running MM on multiple machines in itself kind of makes my head hurt, I'm pretty sure that you're seeing a similar if not the same problem that I encountered. The logs you've posted look identical. From what I could tell from the code, if you are running more instance of OutgoingRunner (or any qrunner, for that matter), you *will* have regular crashes. This is because (assuming 4 slices, numbered 0 through 3) each slice should manage 1/4 of the queue hash space. However, as coded, slice 0 will grab files from the *entire* queue, not just the first quarter. This results in a race condition. The qrunner crash is a result of both slice 0 and another slice seeing a file in the last 3/4 of the hash space, and both beginning to process it -- one will finish and erase the file, the other slice will crash. Try making the following change: In mailman-2.1.5/Mailman/Queue/Switchboard.py, change line 167 from if not lower or (lower = long(digest, 16) upper): to if (lower == upper) or (lower = long(digest, 16) upper): This completely eliminated my problem. Brian. Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 14:25:42 +0900 From: Jim Tittsler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] OutgoingRunner Failing To: David Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sep 14, 2004, at 09:04, David Richards wrote: I have the OutgoingRunner process failing quite regularly, and this has resulted in a build up of mail in the qfiles/out directory. How do I find out what is going on in this process for it to be failing like this? Are there any clues in your logs/error log? If you are lucky, there will be a traceback showing why OutgoingRunner is crashing. (Have you configured Mailman to run with multiple OutgoingRunners in your mm_cfg file? If so, check for Brian Greenberg's recent problem report and fix.) -- +++ + Brian Greenberg + University of Manitoba + + [EMAIL PROTECTED] + ACN -- Unix Software Admin + +-+ + Tasklist and PGP key at http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~grnbrg + signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Implicit destination
Mário Filipe wrote: I can i configure a list to receive messages with implicit destination, so that they wont bounce for approval? Is it enough to set require_explicit_destination to no? Apart from the spam are there any other consequences to such a configuration? Yes, it should be enough to set require_explicit_destination to no. As to the spam consequence, Do you accept posts from non-subscribers? If so, you may see a lot of spam going through. If not, most if not all spam will get caught anyway. You should have an idea of how much spam is currently caught in this filter and would reach the list if you change it. In my case of a list with 300 members and 0 to 20 posts per day and a web published address, the spam all gets caught in the non-member filter. Only a couple of member posts have gotten caught in the implicit destination filter. I'm not aware of any adverse consequences other than the potential spam. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] subscriber managment
More newbie questions Q1: Is there a way to mass add folks to a list WITH their names? For example, from the webpage, I see a way to both type in email addresses as well as upload an existing text file. But both of those want a list of email addresses only - without the subscriber's real name. Q2: On the website for administering a list, under Membership Management | Membership list, it breaks down the membership list into small little chunks alphabetically (by email address). a) is there a way to get it to just show me the entire list? b) sorting using either the first or last name rather than email address? -- + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Chris Barnes AOL IM: CNBarnes [EMAIL PROTECTED]Yahoo IM: chrisnbarnes -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] create list on subscribe
On 9/13/2004 23:03, Stephen J. Turnbull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Roundup is a BTS that works exactly as you say, with some extra features for auto-subscribing the submitter and people who have expressed interest in that category. If you throw away the MLM and replace it with a hook into Mailman, and you create a bug db backend that just talks to the Debian BTS, maybe you get what you want. The reason I think this crackpot idea may have some merit is that Roundup is written in Python, so you might have less trouble with the tight flexible integration I suspect you need here. http://sourceforge.net/projects/roundup We are presently working on installing Roundup to replace our home-grown issue tracking system (also Python). We are quite pleased so far...the new system may go live this week. --John -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Implicit destination
On 9/14/2004 8:40, Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In my case of a list with 300 members and 0 to 20 posts per day and a web published address, the spam all gets caught in the non-member filter. Only a couple of member posts have gotten caught in the implicit destination filter. I'm not aware of any adverse consequences other than the potential spam. Other adverse consequences depend on the population of list members. One of them: we have some who seem to think that CC'ing to all their friends and BCC'ing the list is somehow clever. What it does, of course, is reveal a bunch of addresses to the list members...the owners of the addresses may be less than pleased. When I get that kind of implicit destination hold, I reject it with an explanation. --John -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] subscriber managment
Chris Barnes wrote: Q1: Is there a way to mass add folks to a list WITH their names? For example, from the webpage, I see a way to both type in email addresses as well as upload an existing text file. But both of those want a list of email addresses only - without the subscriber's real name. In your list or text file, use addresses of the form Real Name [EMAIL PROTECTED] Q2: On the website for administering a list, under Membership Management | Membership list, it breaks down the membership list into small little chunks alphabetically (by email address). a) is there a way to get it to just show me the entire list? You can increase DEFAULT_ADMIN_MEMBER_CHUNKSIZE in mm_cfg.py # How many members to display at a time on the admin cgi to unsubscribe them # or change their options? DEFAULT_ADMIN_MEMBER_CHUNKSIZE = 30 You can go to http://www.example.com/mailman/roster/listname but this list has e-mail address only, not name. You can also use the e-mail who command which does return names as wall as addresses. b) sorting using either the first or last name rather than email address? No -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Implicit destination
John W. Baxter wrote: Other adverse consequences depend on the population of list members. One of them: we have some who seem to think that CC'ing to all their friends and BCC'ing the list is somehow clever. What it does, of course, is reveal a bunch of addresses to the list members...the owners of the addresses may be less than pleased. When I get that kind of implicit destination hold, I reject it with an explanation. Good point but you can also catch most of these in the max_num_recipients filter. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Hello
I want with problem in mailman and Freebsb. When I send mail for list the file maillog register only one time, after don´t register more and not arrived e-mail for list. Thank´s -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] not getting copies of posted mail
I have added my self to the list of members, but I do not get copies of any postings. When I look at the Membership Management... [Membership List] , I notice that all the members are in blue and I am the only one in pink . Any Ideas what is going on? Bob - E-Mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: www.w2ras.com Computers, Theater Organs, Geocaching, Ham radio, Hydroponics, Weaver, and Dreamer -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] not getting copies of posted mail
Bob Branch wrote: I have added my self to the list of members, but I do not get copies of any postings. When I look at the Membership Management... [Membership List] , I notice that all the members are in blue and I am the only one in pink . Any Ideas what is going on? Is pink the color your browser uses for a followed link? When you look at your entry in the membership list what do you see for nomail, not metoo, nodupes and digest? All of these have some effect on what you receive from the list. Are you subscribed to any Topics? If you were ever subscribed to any topics and there are currently no topics defined for the list, you may have to set Do you want to receive messages that do not match any topic filter? to yes to receive messages. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] How is a maliing list parsed
Mailman Users: I am running mailman 2.1.5. I have a list of 623 members. I have mailman configured for 100 recipients per message (smtp server limits recipients/message to 100). As I understand this setting, when a message is sent to this list it is broken out into 7 messages (6 with 100 and 1 with 65). How are the addresses grouped per message? I have run into an issue where some people receive the message within 2 minutes while others it takes 23 minutes. I am trying to determine what could be causing the bottleneck and how to resolve it. Bruce Embrey Bruce Edward Embrey : Linux Administrator Hood College : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Phone (301)696-3927 -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] How is a maliing list parsed
Bruce Embrey wrote: I have a list of 623 members. I have mailman configured for 100 recipients per message (smtp server limits recipients/message to 100). As I understand this setting, when a message is sent to this list it is broken out into 7 messages (6 with 100 and 1 with 65). How are the addresses grouped per message? I have run into an issue where some people receive the message within 2 minutes while others it takes 23 minutes. I am trying to determine what could be causing the bottleneck and how to resolve it. Look at Mailman's smtp log to see if all 7 smtp interactions complete within a few minutes or not. Look in the outgoing MTA logs to see if there are delays receiving from Mailman or delays delivering to some users or some user domains. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
RE: [Mailman-Users] not getting copies of posted mail
I have written before about several of our list members and myself not getting any of the individual emails sent on our list. Also, one or two of those aren't able to get the digest either. I've pursued earlier suggestions with no luck. We also had to switch to another Mailman list briefly (4 days) and although I and a few others still couldn't get individual emails, one or two were 'fixed' temporarily. I understand what nomail, not metoo and nodupes are supposed to accomplish but I'd like to understand how the way not metoo and nodupes are set might result in someone not getting ANY individual emails. Will someone fill me in please? It's particularly embarrassing for the listkeeper (me) to not be able to fix my own setup! BTW, I'm also becoming convinced that Comcast is somehow the problem because two of us use Comcast. Unfortunately, our list mail doesn't even make it to our Comcast web-based email box. I have checked and there is no 'special' spam-blocking that costs $1 to turn off or anything resembling that except the usual anti-spam settings. Judy Petersen - Bob Branch wrote: - - I have added my self to the list of members, but I do not get - copies of any postings. - When I look at the Membership Management... [Membership List] , - I notice that - all the members are in blue and I am the only one in pink . - - Any Ideas what is going on? - - When you look at your entry in the membership list what do you see for - nomail, not metoo, nodupes and digest? All of these have some - effect on what you receive from the list. - - Are you subscribed to any Topics? If you were ever subscribed to any - topics and there are currently no topics defined for the list, you may - have to set Do you want to receive messages that do not match any - topic filter? to yes to receive messages.g/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
RE: [Mailman-Users] not getting copies of posted mail
Judy Petersen wrote: I understand what nomail, not metoo and nodupes are supposed to accomplish but I'd like to understand how the way not metoo and nodupes are set might result in someone not getting ANY individual emails. They wouldn't in general, but in a testing situation where only one person was posting, not metoo would preclude that person's receiving the posts. Likewise, nodupes would preclude someones receiving from the list if that person were always an addressee of the post. Of course, the person would normally receive the post off list in this case. In a previous reply (http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2004-August/039071.html), I said If you have access to the mailman logs, you should be able to determine from the smtp log if the expected number of posts are being sent. Were you able to do that? BTW, I'm also becoming convinced that Comcast is somehow the problem because two of us use Comcast. Unfortunately, our list mail doesn't even make it to our Comcast web-based email box. I have checked and there is no 'special' spam-blocking that costs $1 to turn off or anything resembling that except the usual anti-spam settings. The customer support people at ISP's often have little or no knowledge of what global anti-spam measures the ISP uses. You have to talk to the abuse people to be sure you're getting anything close to correct information. Just for curiousity, you might look up the IP address of your Mailman server at www.openrbl.org to see if it's on any of several black lists. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
