[Mailman-Users] HTML Assistance
Hello Everybody, I am not an expert in HTML therefore I am looking for someone who could assist me for the modifications I am thinking of for my mailing list. Ref. to the Administrative Activities Section of Mailman.Click the Edit the Public HTML Pages gives you 3 options namely General List Information Page Subscribe Result Page User Specific Options Page When you click the 3rd Option i.e. User Specific Options Page then it shows you the HTML codes for that particular page. I want to keep only User name (Optional) and Email Address only for the Invited Subscribers or those who are interested to subscrible to my mailing list. How do I edit the given HTML codes .. Can anybody assist me in this regard ??? Do provide easy to understand instructions, please. Thanks. Best Regards Abbas Qaizar Mustafa Computers Peripherals Suite 28, Level 12 R.K.Square Extension Main Shahra-e-Liaquat Karachi-74000 Sindh-Pakistan Mobile : 0333 - 237 2582 Tel : 092 - 21 - 2400326 / 2425833 Fax : 092 - 21 - 2437783 Website http://www.mustafacomputers.com Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN : [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Re: HTML Assistance
Can anybody assist me in this regard ??? You must have a webdesigner to have put together your website. They will be able to figure it out in a second. It could not be more simple. Alternatively, if all you want is a simple subscription page - or code to add to your website - you could use something like; Customising the names of yourservername. You are still going to have to learn / pay someone to do the html though. MA Example; BJoin the yourservername list/b FORM Method=POST ACTION=http://lists.yourservername.com/mailman/subscribe/mailman;br Your E-mail address: INPUT type=Text name=email size=30 value=br Your Name (optional): INPUT type=Text name=fullname size=30 value=brbr You may enter a privacy password below. This provides only mild security, but should prevent others from messing with your subscription. bDo not use a valuable password/b as itbr will occasionally be emailed back to you in cleartext.brbr If you choose not to enter a password, one will be automatically generated for you, and it willbr be sent to you once you've confirmed your subscription. You can always request a mail-backbr of your password when you edit your personal options.brbr Password choice: INPUT type=Password name=pw size=15BR Confirm Password: INPUT type=Password name=pw-conf size=15BRBR Would you like to receive list mail batched in a daily digest? (You may choose NoMail after you join.)BRbr input type=radio name=digest value=0 CHECKED No input type=radio name=digest value=1 Yesbrbr INPUT type=Submit name=email-button value=Subscribe /FORM -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Email not being distributed...
Hello, I created a small list of about 10 members to start and tested it for a couple of days... changing settings to make sure all goes the way It should. Then I finished loading the email address and I have almost 5000. I tried today to send my first newsletter and it looks like it's not being distributed (I know because I have several addresses that I own and that I keep checking). I made sure the maximum kb per email was set high enough also the recipient filter is set to 1 recipients. so it should work just like when I sent the test emails to 10 people. I spend several hours on this and cannot figure out why it isn't working... Any ideas... ? Thanks . Jean-Luc -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] virtual host
Hi, I have questions about using the virtual host with Mailman 2.1.5 on RHEL 3. For example the hostname of my mailing server is land.its.org. I created an DNS alias that is named mailman.its.org. Then I did as follows: $ nslookup mailman.its.org mailman.its.orgcanonical name = land.its.org Name: land.its.org Address: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx $ vi mm_cfg.py DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'mailman.its.org' DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'mailman.its.org' add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST) $ bin/withlist -l -r fix_url test -v $ bin/mailmanctl restart I added the virtual host of mailman.its.org on Apache. The URL of http://mailman.its.org/mailman/admin/test is working. I also can send the emails from the members of test list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] But the members of test list received the emails still from land.its.org, not mailman.its.org. The mail header didn't change from land.its.org to mailman.its.org. I want any email will use the alias name of mailman.its.org, not land.its.org. Does anyone know how to resolve it? Thanks for your help. Hong -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Cloning a list
After much trial and error I have created a set of list settings that works very well. Now, I would like to create others that are essentially the same. Is there any way that I can clone all of the settings from the correctly configured list? Thanks, - Mike Cullum Director of Infrastructure and Instructional Technologies Northshore School District 3330 Monte Villa Parkway Bothell, WA 98021-7215 Telephone: (425)489-6322 Fax:(425)489-6317 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Email not being distributed...
At 10:32 PM +1000 2004-09-21, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I spend several hours on this and cannot figure out why it isn't working... Go to the Mailman FAQ Wizard at http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py, and search for troubleshooting and no mail. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] virtual host
At 9:54 AM -0400 2004-09-21, Hong Jiang Tian wrote: I have questions about using the virtual host with Mailman 2.1.5 on RHEL 3. For example the hostname of my mailing server is land.its.org. I created an DNS alias that is named mailman.its.org. As a CNAME alias? Don't do that. The RFCs say that you should not send e-mail to a CNAME alias, and if you do, then the headers should be changed to reflect the real canonical name of the machine. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Re: How can I do this?
Last week I posted another question from a former Lsoft Listserv user: I want to know if this function is available using MailMan, and if so, how: Using Listserv, if you had 2 lists (ListA ListB), you could set things up such: ListA: Send= Editor Editor= [EMAIL PROTECTED] Editor= (ListB) Doing this allowed all of the subscribers of ListB to be able to send their messages to ListA without moderation. In other words, in MM in the Privacy/Sender section under where it says List of non-member addresses whose postings should be automatically accepted can I specify another list? Do I understand from the lack of responses that this type of ability is not available in MM? -- + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Chris Barnes AOL IM: CNBarnes [EMAIL PROTECTED]Yahoo IM: chrisnbarnes -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] [RESEND] what is a basic apache2 config for mailman?
mailman 2.1.5-1 (debian) I've gotten mailman installed and working, but I can't figure out how to set up the web interface. I'm using apache2. I'm sorry to post what must seem like a stupid question, but I've spent a few hours searching the FAQ, mailing lists, and documentation. The answer is not there, at least not in a form which I could easily pluck. Can someone just send me a working apache2 config, pretty please? -- A new cognitive theory of emotion, http://openheartlogic.org signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Email not being distributed...
What version of Mailman? What OS and version? What MTA are you using? Version? What does the error log indicate? - Original Message Follows - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Mailman-Users] Email not being distributed... Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 22:32:52 +1000 Hello, I created a small list of about 10 members to start and tested it for a couple of days... changing settings to make sure all goes the way It should. Then I finished loading the email address and I have almost 5000. I tried today to send my first newsletter and it looks like it's not being distributed (I know because I have several addresses that I own and that I keep checking). I made sure the maximum kb per email was set high enough also the recipient filter is set to 1 recipients. so it should work just like when I sent the test emails to 10 people. I spend several hours on this and cannot figure out why it isn't working... Any ideas... ? Thanks . Jean-Luc -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Kevin W. Gagel Network Administrator (250) 561-5848 local 448 (250) 562-2131 local 448 -- The College of New Caledonia, Visit us at http://www.cnc.bc.ca Virus scanning is done on all incoming and outgoing email. -- -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] messages from checkdbs cron job
Hello, I recently installed Mailman 2.1.5 and have loaded up the mailman crons that came with the install. I have noticed the following messages everday when the checkdbs cron runs and I was wondering what the message meant. Is something wrong with my configuration or is there a problem with a list on my system? Here is the message I see: Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/local/mailman/cron/checkdbs, line 178, in ? main() File /usr/local/mailman/cron/checkdbs, line 109, in main text += '\n' + pending_requests(mlist) File /usr/local/mailman/cron/checkdbs, line 128, in pending_requests for id in mlist.GetSubscriptionIds(): File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/ListAdmin.py, line 138, in GetSubscriptionIds return self.__getmsgids(SUBSCRIPTION) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/ListAdmin.py, line 130, in __getmsgids ids = [k for k, (op, data) in self.__db.items() if op == rtype] ValueError: unpack tuple of wrong size -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] APACHE: any issues if disallow the showing of directory listing
I was wondering if it would cause any issues with the Mailman software if I configure my Apache web server to no longer allow showing the directory listings of directories that do not have a default web page by changing the Indexes option to -Indexes? EXAMPLE: Directory /usr/local/mailman Options -Indexes FollowSymLinks AllowOverride None Order allow,deny Allow from all /Directory -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Problems with relocating a list
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Moving a Mailman list from one server to a new one has been a *very* smooth process for the most part, but I'm noticing some small quirks in the wake. Here's an account of how I accomplished this. 1. Installed Mailman 2.1.5, Postfix 2.1.4, and Apache 2.0.50 on the new server. These versions exactly match the ones on the old server. 2. Went through the process dictated in FreeBSD-post-install-notes, INSTALL, README, and README.POSTFIX, which essentially involved editing main.cf, httpd.conf, adding MTA = 'Postfix' to mm_cfg.py and creating the mailman list. 3. Under the direction of section 3.4 in the FAQ Wizard, I copied the data, archives and lists directories from the old server to the new one. But rather than clobbering the pre-existing directories, I copied only the *relevant* directories from archives and lists (i.e. archives/private/listname* and lists/listname). Nothing was copied from data and the mailman list was not copied. 4. Ran withlist -l -r fix_url listname genaliases 5. Started postfix and qrunner. 6. Configured Apache on the old site to proxy and Postfix to relay to the new server while DNS changes propagated. Now, the aforementioned quirks: 1. The old lists are not advertised on the new Web site. 2. Apache will not let me access the public archives (that were private before the move) and I get a 403. I'm sure this has to do with Apache 2's default deny policy, but not entirely sure how to deal with it (I'm still somewhat of an Apache 2 newbie, but I've had a few years experience with 1.x). Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Cheers! - -- Anthony Chavez http://www.anthonychavez.org/ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFBUHesbZTbIaRBRXERAoIGAJ0fYE5OA0qsowSA8C15dZ+J/dlGdQCeNbEQ M0fmXySbfdTfpReNuH3/2hw= =kfs3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] APACHE: any issues if disallow the showing of directory listing
So far as I am aware, none of the Mailman generated pages depend on auto-indexing, using explicit URLs in all cases. Try it and see. On 21 Sep 2004, at 18:37, Franco, Ruben wrote: I was wondering if it would cause any issues with the Mailman software if I configure my Apache web server to no longer allow showing the directory listings of directories that do not have a default web page by changing the Indexes option to -Indexes? EXAMPLE: Directory /usr/local/mailman Options -Indexes FollowSymLinks AllowOverride None Order allow,deny Allow from all /Directory -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Problems with relocating a list
You probably followed some of my instructions. I've not had a chance to get back to update them. In the mailman list directories you'll find that there are links to the archives. I had the same issue after I did mine, it took a bit to figure it out but simply deleting the links and making new ones to the correct location on the new machine fixed it for me. - Original Message Follows - From: Anthony Chavez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Mailman-Users] Problems with relocating a list Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 12:49:13 -0600 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Moving a Mailman list from one server to a new one has been a *very* smooth process for the most part, but I'm noticing some small quirks in the wake. Here's an account of how I accomplished this. 1. Installed Mailman 2.1.5, Postfix 2.1.4, and Apache 2.0.50 on the new server. These versions exactly match the ones on the old server. 2. Went through the process dictated in FreeBSD-post-install-notes, INSTALL, README, and README.POSTFIX, which essentially involved editing main.cf, httpd.conf, adding MTA = 'Postfix' to mm_cfg.py and creating the mailman list. 3. Under the direction of section 3.4 in the FAQ Wizard, I copied the data, archives and lists directories from the old server to the new one. But rather than clobbering the pre-existing directories, I copied only the *relevant* directories from archives and lists (i.e. archives/private/listname* and lists/listname). Nothing was copied from data and the mailman list was not copied. 4. Ran withlist -l -r fix_url listname genaliases 5. Started postfix and qrunner. 6. Configured Apache on the old site to proxy and Postfix to relay to the new server while DNS changes propagated. Now, the aforementioned quirks: 1. The old lists are not advertised on the new Web site. 2. Apache will not let me access the public archives (that were private before the move) and I get a 403. I'm sure this has to do with Apache 2's default deny policy, but not entirely sure how to deal with it (I'm still somewhat of an Apache 2 newbie, but I've had a few years experience with 1.x). Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Cheers! - -- Anthony Chavez http://www.anthonychavez.org/ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFBUHesbZTbIaRBRXERAoIGAJ0fYE5OA0qsowSA8C15dZ+J/dlGdQCeNbEQ M0fmXySbfdTfpReNuH3/2hw= =kfs3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Kevin W. Gagel Network Administrator (250) 561-5848 local 448 (250) 562-2131 local 448 -- The College of New Caledonia, Visit us at http://www.cnc.bc.ca Virus scanning is done on all incoming and outgoing email. -- -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
RE: [Mailman-Users] APACHE: any issues if disallow the showing of directory listing
Well, I have tried it and the listserv has NOT developed any problems so far. -Original Message- From: Richard Barrett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 2:21 PM To: Franco, Ruben Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] APACHE: any issues if disallow the showing of directory listing So far as I am aware, none of the Mailman generated pages depend on auto-indexing, using explicit URLs in all cases. Try it and see. On 21 Sep 2004, at 18:37, Franco, Ruben wrote: I was wondering if it would cause any issues with the Mailman software if I configure my Apache web server to no longer allow showing the directory listings of directories that do not have a default web page by changing the Indexes option to -Indexes? EXAMPLE: Directory /usr/local/mailman Options -Indexes FollowSymLinks AllowOverride None Order allow,deny Allow from all /Directory -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] virtual host
Hong Jiang Tian wrote: I also can send the emails from the members of test list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] But the members of test list received the emails still from land.its.org, not mailman.its.org. The mail header didn't change from land.its.org to mailman.its.org. I want any email will use the alias name of mailman.its.org, not land.its.org. Does anyone know how to resolve it? Go to Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py and read article 4.29, especially the section Existing versus new lists -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Email not being distributed...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I created a small list of about 10 members to start and tested it for a couple of days... changing settings to make sure all goes the way It should. Then I finished loading the email address and I have almost 5000. I tried today to send my first newsletter and it looks like it's not being distributed (I know because I have several addresses that I own and that I keep checking). I made sure the maximum kb per email was set high enough also the recipient filter is set to 1 recipients. so it should work just like when I sent the test emails to 10 people. The Recipient Filter max_num_recipients has nothing do do with how many list members a post can be delivered to. It is the maximum number of addressees in To: and Cc: in the incoming message to the list that is allowed without holding the message for moderator review. You may have a problem with the MTA accepting messages with a large number of envelope to addresses. You may want to look at SMTP_MAX_RCPTS in Defaults.py and perhaps set it to a LOWER value in mm_cfg.py. Also search the FAQ as Brad suggested in another reply. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Cloning a list
Mike Cullum wrote: After much trial and error I have created a set of list settings that works very well. Now, I would like to create others that are essentially the same. Is there any way that I can clone all of the settings from the correctly configured list? Go to Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ And search for cloning -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: How can I do this?
Chris Barnes wrote: In other words, in MM in the Privacy/Sender section under where it says List of non-member addresses whose postings should be automatically accepted can I specify another list? Do I understand from the lack of responses that this type of ability is not available in MM? Yes, and while your post was not explicitly answered, someone else asked essentially the same question two days ago and there were two replies. http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2004-September/039526.html http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2004-September/039533.html -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Newbie requesting basic how-to
Jon Roland wrote: This is my first message to the list. I have used listservs for years as an ordinary subscriber, but the time has come to set one up on my local Linux machine, running Fedora Core 2. I have the latest Mailman installed, by default in /var/mailman, but after wending through the volumes of online documentation and email archives, and wandering through the files on my system, I am having trouble finding what I really need at this point, which is one simple instruction for setting it up. It is unclear to me where you are at this point. Have you read the INSTALL file in the top level of the source distribution and done all of that? Are you ready to create a list? If so, you can do pretty much everything via the GUI list creation/administration pages. See the README file in the top level of the source distribution What I would really like, of course, would be one command: # Mailman-setup which would present me with a site administrator GUI that would enable me to do everything else. Is there such a thing? There is a list administrator GUI but not a site administrator GUI. However once Mailman is actually installed, the site defaults may well be fine for you. I don't want to have to bother with running commands from the shell, as I am not a good typist and my vision is poor, so I really would like a GUI for almost everything that will save me from typos. If you are installing from source, you have to do the steps in the INSTALL document and there's no GUI for that. My needs are very simple. The machine is not open to the world for access. I won't be having anyone on the Internet subscribing. For the time being, it will be used entirely as an internal tool, and initially I will subscribe users. Later, I might want to let them subscribe themselves, but for now it will be used only for announcements to various lists of recipients, going out through any of the MTAs we have running, such as postfix, sendmail, or any of the others that came with Fedora Core 2, which I see are running now in background, although we aren't using them, but using a remote ISP for mail service. We will, however, want to send email out to the Internet. We don't have our own local domain, so I will need to reconfigure our sender address from localhost.localdomain for outgoing email. So all I will want to do, initially, is have the capability to select a recipient list, select a file containing the message body, select the Sender field, select the Reply-to field, enter the Subject, perhaps select a file or files to be the attachments, and hit Enter to begin sending, with perhaps a time delay between messages to avoid overflowing my outbound mail server, whether I use a local server or a remote one. Basically, you create a list through the list create/admin GUI and subscribe your recipients (or they subscribe themselves). The Reply-To: is a list option. Most if not all of the rest is accomplished by sending the desired e-mail to the Mailman list, and Mailman in turn sends the mail to the list members. This is generally how listservs work. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] mailman setup
Okay, I have mailman running and created the initial list 'mailman'. My questiong is, do i actually have to keep this list for mailman to run or can i hide this list from the actual lists page? thanks, Andy -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman setup
Andy Morris wrote: Okay, I have mailman running and created the initial list 'mailman'. My questiong is, do i actually have to keep this list for mailman to run or can i hide this list from the actual lists page? You have to keep the list, but normally, you designate it as private (not advertised), and it doesn't appear on the site listinfo page. The setting is on the Privacy options...-Subscription rules page. See the FAQ Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py article 4.25 -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Newbie requesting basic how-to
Thanks, Mark, for taking the time to respond. Mark Sapiro wrote: It is unclear to me where you are at this point. Have you read the INSTALL file in the top level of the source distribution and done all of that? I have now. It was not in the /var/mailman directory tree, but in the /usr/share/doc/mailman-2.1.5/ directory, along with several README* files. The file I needed to read is INSTALL.REDHAT. It would be helpful if the site.org website had a *prominent* link to those files, with captions explaining what each is for. One needs to be able to read them before they become available as a result of installation, and know where to look for them. Are you ready to create a list? If so, you can do pretty much everything via the GUI list creation/administration pages. See the README file in the top level of the source distribution. Not yet. It tells me I have to configure my web server and start it, but not much of a clue how to do that. The INSTALL.REDHAT file says: The RPM has installed a mailman config file (mailman.conf) in /etc/httpd/conf.d. You should edit the file to set your domain, see the instructions in the config file. What config file? Presumably one of the several files ending in .conf, but it seems there should be a GUI for setting up the web server, which could in turn be launched by the GUI for setting up Mailman for the first time. It seems like overkill to have to run the web server just to serve 1? list admin page, when all I want to do is send email to lists. It next says: RedHat does not ship RPM's that enable services as part of package installation. You will need to enable the mailman service if you want mailman to run. And although it provides the usual cryptic instructions for doing that, it is not clear how to get all this to work when I want it to, and not when I don't. I would like to add an icon to my desktop that would launch a script to start the web server, start the mailman daemon, launch the admin GUI, and turn off all those things when I finish using them. (Because system resources are limited, and I don't want more overhead than necessary.) There is a list administrator GUI but not a site administrator GUI. However once Mailman is actually installed, the site defaults may well be fine for you. If a site administrator GUI is not in the current wish list, I would appreciate it if someone would add it and work on it. Call it mailman-site-admin or something. Make it a python program so it doesn't require the web server to be running. But how does one launch that list admin GUI? If you are installing from source, you have to do the steps in the INSTALL document and there's no GUI for that. The binaries and doc files are pre-installed, apparently as part of the Fedora Core 2 distribution. (I don't remember installing it later.) Basically, you create a list through the list create/admin GUI and subscribe your recipients (or they subscribe themselves). The Reply-To: is a list option. Most if not all of the rest is accomplished by sending the desired e-mail to the Mailman list, and Mailman in turn sends the mail to the list members. It is not obvious how I send the desired email to a Mailman list when everything is on one local machine and the domain is localhost.localdomain. Does it have a user account name that I can send to the way I would send to another user on the machine? Again, thanks for your help, and please visit http://www.constitution.org , where some day this listserv might be installed when it is fully developed and I am confident I know how to administer it (without having a shell account with the ISP that hosts it, so that I will have to direct the ISP's sysadmin how to launch it, probably as a cron job -- the host at the ISP is also running Linux). -- Jon Starflight Corporation7793 Burnet Road #37, Austin, TX 78757 512/374-9585 www.the-spa.com/jon.roland/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get your free digital certificate from http://www.thawte.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Newbie requesting basic how-to
Jon Roland Thanks, Mark, for taking the time to respond. Mark Sapiro wrote: It is unclear to me where you are at this point. Have you read the INSTALL file in the top level of the source distribution and done all of that? I have now. It was not in the /var/mailman directory tree, but in the /usr/share/doc/mailman-2.1.5/ directory, along with several README* files. The file I needed to read is INSTALL.REDHAT. It would be helpful if the site.org website had a *prominent* link to those files, with captions explaining what each is for. One needs to be able to read them before they become available as a result of installation, and know where to look for them. If you install Mailman from source, The INSTALL file and a bunch of README files are in the top level directory of the source tarball. If you install from somebody's RPM, you need to take this up with whoever produced the RPM. Are you ready to create a list? If so, you can do pretty much everything via the GUI list creation/administration pages. See the README file in the top level of the source distribution. Not yet. It tells me I have to configure my web server and start it, but not much of a clue how to do that. The INSTALL.REDHAT file says: The RPM has installed a mailman config file (mailman.conf) in /etc/httpd/conf.d. You should edit the file to set your domain, see the instructions in the config file. What config file? Presumably one of the several files ending in .conf, but it seems there should be a GUI for setting up the web server, which could in turn be launched by the GUI for setting up Mailman for the first time. It seems like overkill to have to run the web server just to serve 1? list admin page, when all I want to do is send email to lists. I think these are questions for RedHat or some RedHat user's forum. Maybe somebody else here can answer them, but I can't. As far as running the a web server is concerned, You don't have to, but that's the GUI list administration and user interface. No web server - no GUI for even these functions. It next says: RedHat does not ship RPM's that enable services as part of package installation. You will need to enable the mailman service if you want mailman to run. And although it provides the usual cryptic instructions for doing that, it is not clear how to get all this to work when I want it to, and not when I don't. I would like to add an icon to my desktop that would launch a script to start the web server, start the mailman daemon, launch the admin GUI, and turn off all those things when I finish using them. (Because system resources are limited, and I don't want more overhead than necessary.) There is a list administrator GUI but not a site administrator GUI. However once Mailman is actually installed, the site defaults may well be fine for you. If a site administrator GUI is not in the current wish list, I would appreciate it if someone would add it and work on it. Call it mailman-site-admin or something. Make it a python program so it doesn't require the web server to be running. But how does one launch that list admin GUI? Through the web interface. It's a bunch of Python scripts that interface with the web server through CGI. If you are installing from source, you have to do the steps in the INSTALL document and there's no GUI for that. The binaries and doc files are pre-installed, apparently as part of the Fedora Core 2 distribution. (I don't remember installing it later.) Basically, you create a list through the list create/admin GUI and subscribe your recipients (or they subscribe themselves). The Reply-To: is a list option. Most if not all of the rest is accomplished by sending the desired e-mail to the Mailman list, and Mailman in turn sends the mail to the list members. It is not obvious how I send the desired email to a Mailman list when everything is on one local machine and the domain is localhost.localdomain. Does it have a user account name that I can send to the way I would send to another user on the machine? Lists have names e.g. mailman-users or whatever, but they aren't accounts. You would post to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and it would be up to your MTA (via aliases or in the case of Exim, other means) to pass this to Mailman. Yours is a highly unusual use of Mailman. Most installations would want full time service and full time web access. Again, thanks for your help, and please visit http://www.constitution.org , where some day this listserv might be installed when it is fully developed and I am confident I know how to administer it (without having a shell account with the ISP that hosts it, so that I will have to direct the ISP's sysadmin how to launch it, probably as a cron job -- the host at the ISP is also running Linux). -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan
[Mailman-Users] Re: Problems with relocating a list
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 14:37:22 -0700 Kevin W. Gagel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You probably followed some of my instructions. I've not had a chance to get back to update them. In the mailman list directories you'll find that there are links to the archives. I had the same issue after I did mine, it took a bit to figure it out but simply deleting the links and making new ones to the correct location on the new machine fixed it for me. Thank you for your response. I've determined that in this case, it's a simple matter of misconfiguration. Attempts to view list advertisements at http://www.mydomain.com/mailman/listinfo yields no results. However, connecting to http://mydomain.com/mailman/listinfo works fine. However, Apache 2 still 403s when attempting to access /pipermail/gubug/, using either hostname - -- Anthony Chavez http://www.anthonychavez.org/ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFBUQ5tbZTbIaRBRXERApn9AJ9VaksnE8BwtuCkAmFND2vHW3g/pQCfeAOz 6jWsnh557CnQthb4ZgOw8tA= =aT6g -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
