[Mailman-Users] Pipermail public mailing list archive question

[Dana Rasmussen]

Hello,
Is it absolutely necessary to configure the web server to point to the Pipermail 
public archives?
Can this step be skipped?
Thanks,
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Re: [Mailman-Users] command lines via email

[Mark Sapiro]

Joe Mezzanini wrote:

>is there a list of command that can be sent to mailman via email
>
>like (un)subscribe, who, vacation, stop ?

>From the standard welcome to this list message...

You can also make such adjustments via email by sending a message to:

  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

with the word `help' in the subject or body (don't include the
quotes), and you will get back a message with instructions.

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[Mailman-Users] command lines via email

[Joe Mezzanini]

is there a list of command that can be sent to mailman via email

like (un)subscribe, who, vacation, stop ?

thanks,
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Unable to create new lists

[Mark Sapiro]

Patrick Danial wrote:

>For some reason I am no longer able to create new lists. The process 
>fails with a permission error. Here are the details:
>
>
>Bug in Mailman version 2.1.5
>
>
>  We're sorry, we hit a bug!
>
>If you would like to help us identify the problem, please email a copy 
>of this page to the webmaster for this site with a description of what 
>happened. Thanks!
>
>
>Traceback:
>
>Traceback (most recent call last):
>  File "/usr/local/mailman/scripts/driver", line 87, in run_main
>main()
>  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/create.py", line 55, in main
>process_request(doc, cgidata)
>  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/create.py", line 226, in process_request
>sys.modules[modname].create(mlist, cgi=1)
>  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MTA/Postfix.py", line 229, in create
>_do_create(mlist, ALIASFILE, _addlist)
>  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MTA/Postfix.py", line 204, in _do_create
>fp = open(textfile, 'r+')
>IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/usr/local/mailman/data/aliases'
>

It is trying to create the list aliases file for Postfix and doesn't
have permission.

See FAQ article 6.9. for some suggestions.
>Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Archives link on listinfo page points to old servername

[Mark Sapiro]

Mark Lohaus wrote:
>
>I changed my servername after installing the latest Mailman.  I ran a
>script in mailman/bin that changed all the servername references and
>Mailman has been working fine. Accept for one thing:  on the listinfo
>pages, the archives link points to the old server name.  The variable
>that controls this is incorrect.  Do you know how I can change to
>variable.
> 

Did you read FAQ article 4.29 about fix_url.py?

>Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py

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Re: [Mailman-Users] topic regep exclude

[Mark Sapiro]

Howard Moscovitz wrote:

>In the topic definition form, how can one specify a topic that is only 
>messages that DOES NOT have the string [G2] in it.

see http://docs.python.org/lib/re-syntax.html

I would try

  ^(?!.*\[G2\])

or if case is not significant

  ^(?!.*\[[Gg]2\])

but this is only a suggested starting point. It seems to me that it
should work, but I don't know.

>Is there a way to test regeps without setting up a separte test list?

You could do a few interactive tests with Python or make a script.

For example:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ python2.3
Python 2.3.3 (#1, Mar  4 2004, 22:12:33)
[GCC 2.96 2731 (Red Hat Linux 7.3 2.96-113)] on linux2
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>> import re
>>> m = re.match('^(?!.*\[G2\])', 'now is the time for [G3] to do something')
>>> m.group(0)
''
>>> m = re.match('^(?!.*\[G2\])', 'now is the time for [G2] to do something')
>>> m.group(0)
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "", line 1, in ?
AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'group'
>>>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$

In the first case, the re matches the null character at the beginning
of the line which is followed by not (anything followed by [G2]) so
the match succeeds and the matched string is null.

In the second case, the null character at the start of the string is
followed by (anything followed by [G2]) so the match fails and m.group
is undefined.

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[Mailman-Users] Archives link on listinfo page points to old server name

[Mark Lohaus]

Mailman users,

I changed my servername after installing the latest Mailman.  I ran a
script in mailman/bin that changed all the servername references and
Mailman has been working fine. Accept for one thing:  on the listinfo
pages, the archives link points to the old server name.  The variable
that controls this is incorrect.  Do you know how I can change to
variable.
 
Thanks,
 
Mark
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[Mailman-Users] (no subject)

[Mark Lohaus]

I changed my servername after installing the latest Mailman.  I ran a
script in mailman/bin that changed all the servername references and
Mailman has been working fine. Accept for one thing:  on the listinfo
pages, the archives link points to the old server name.  The variable
that controls this is incorrect.  Do you know how I can change to
variable.

Thanks,

Mark
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[Mailman-Users] Unable to create new lists

[Patrick Danial]

For some reason I am no longer able to create new lists. The process 
fails with a permission error. Here are the details:

   Bug in Mailman version 2.1.5
 We're sorry, we hit a bug!
If you would like to help us identify the problem, please email a copy 
of this page to the webmaster for this site with a description of what 
happened. Thanks!

   Traceback:
Traceback (most recent call last):
 File "/usr/local/mailman/scripts/driver", line 87, in run_main
   main()
 File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/create.py", line 55, in main
   process_request(doc, cgidata)
 File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/create.py", line 226, in process_request
   sys.modules[modname].create(mlist, cgi=1)
 File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MTA/Postfix.py", line 229, in create
   _do_create(mlist, ALIASFILE, _addlist)
 File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MTA/Postfix.py", line 204, in _do_create
   fp = open(textfile, 'r+')
IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/usr/local/mailman/data/aliases'
Thanks.
Pat
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Re: [Mailman-Users] HELP - can't authorize posts - timeout error

[Brad Knowles]

At 2:28 PM -0400 2004-09-24, Timothy Hagan wrote:
 I am receiving the emails from Mailman telling me that, as administrator, I
 need to authorize the delivery of a posting. It includes a link (for my
 convenience) to access the admin web page and approve the posting. However,
 my browser times out every time I try to link to it.
	This may be related to the "redirect" problem.  If so, then the 
Mailman FAQ entry at 
 
may be useful to you.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Pacing input

[Brad Knowles]

At 3:15 PM -0400 2004-09-24, Stewart Dean wrote:
 I'm open to any suggestions, but one possibility I envision would be some
 sort of front end or method that would:
	If this issue can be addressed on your system, that would be 
through the MTA.  See 
.

 Thanks in advance for any and all help or advice!
	Alternatively, since Mailman is a volunteer open source project, 
you're welcome to contribute code to achieve these goals.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Footer as attachment

[Brad Knowles]

At 9:57 AM -0600 2004-09-24, Ashley M. Kirchner wrote:
Not sure how to configure and shut this off, but I noticed when
 someone sends a plain/text formatted e-mail to a list, the footer comes
 in as part of the message.  However, when someone sends a text/html
 message, the footer becomes an attachment.
See .
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Domain in the To: header

[Brad Knowles]

At 1:58 PM +0100 2004-09-24, Jolin M Warren wrote:
 In every case I have checked, this is the address that is being entered
 into the 'To:' field of the sender's mailer. However, some MTAs seem to
 be automatically substituting the CNAME for the domain in the To: address,
 so the email that arrives at my server has the To: address of:
	They are doing so correctly.  This behaviour is required by the 
RFCs.  If you don't want this done, have the name resolve directly to 
the appropriate IP address and not a CNAME alias to a different name.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Messages not going out to list members

[Brad Knowles]

At 1:00 AM + 2004-09-24, Doron Tordjman wrote:
 I created a list using admin web interface, but members are not
 receiving messages I am sending to the list.
	Go to the Mailman FAQ Wizard at 
 and search for 
"troubleshooting" and "no mail".

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Re: [Mailman-Users] HELP - can't authorize posts - timeout error

[Mark Sapiro]

Timothy Hagan wrote:

>I am receiving the emails from Mailman telling me that, as 
>administrator, I need to authorize the delivery of a posting. It 
>includes a link (for my convenience) to access the admin web page and 
>approve the posting. However, my browser times out every time I try to 
>link to it. Is there something that could be wrong with my server? Is 
>there a way to approve this posting without going to the web?

Can you visit your list's administrative interface on the web at all
(at something like http://www.example.com/mailman/admin/listname)?

If so, can you follow the link to Tend to pending moderator requests?

In any case, there seems to be a problem in either your web server or
the link in the approval reminder? Without more information, It's hard
to tell what.

If you look carefully at the original notice that you get if
admin_immed_notify is set to Yes, it contains a separate message part
as follows:


Content-Type: message/rfc822
MIME-Version: 1.0

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Subject: confirm 1dd7b67319874179486bc3b4ed9b0d2a11722c96
Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

If you reply to this message, keeping the Subject: header intact,
Mailman will discard the held message.  Do this if the message is
spam.  If you reply to this message and include an Approved: header
with the list password in it, the message will be approved for posting
to the list.  The Approved: header can also appear in the first line
of the body of the reply.


Note that the reply is to the sub-part message, not the whole message.
I.e. it goes to the listname-request address with Subject: confirm ...

If admin_immed_notify is set to No, then you can't approve or deny by
e-mail because you don't have the confirm ... token.

The admin_immed_notify setting is on the list's General Options page.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Recovering data/virtual-mailman file

[Eric Pretorious]

On Friday 24 September 2004 01:12 pm, Eric Pretorious wrote:
>As root I ran bin/genaliases this morning and it emptied my
>data/virtual-mailman file. Is there any way to recover this file? e.g.,
> maybe from the data/virtual-mailman.db?

I'm guessing that there *is* a way - The `bin/list_lists` command returned 
this list...

Admins - Administrators of LHN Accounts
BOD - SMLL Board of Directors
D44-tournaments - District 44 Little League Tournament & General 
Information
Mailman - [no description available]
Presidents - District 44 Presidents, & District Board
SSLL - Sunnyvale Southern General Distribution

...but I'm just a bit gun-shy now.

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[Mailman-Users] Recovering data/virtual-mailman file

[Eric Pretorious]

Hello, All:

As root I ran bin/genaliases this morning and it emptied my 
data/virtual-mailman file. Is there any way to recover this file? e.g., maybe 
from the data/virtual-mailman.db?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] IOError: [Errno 40] Too many levels of symboliclinks:

[Mark Sapiro]

Jennifer Dostal wrote:
> 
>I'm using Mailman as my org's listserv. I didn't set it up, so I'm a bit lost with 
>this error message. I get the error  when I click on the Overview of all lists link 
>at the bottom of the page. I need to add some more lists but I can't because I now 
>get this message. I am using a hosting service, so I don't have a lot of acces to the 
>nuts and bolts of the server and services.
> 

It seems that the hosting service is in turn using CPanel. You need to
take this up with the hosting service and/or CPanel. See the FAQ entry
at http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq06.011.htp

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Ban List

[Mark Sapiro]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>I own a mailing list which I manage thru mailman software. I am quite new
>to this software. I actually used Yahoo Groups for more than theree years
>for my list but recently migrated to my own server with mailman to manage
>the list. I have difficulty in getting members ban from the list.
>The ban list screen says the following:
>"Addresses in this list are banned outright from subscribing to this
>mailing list, with no further moderation required. Add addresses one per
>line; start the line with a ^ character to designate a regular expression
>match."
>which means an address should be like [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Only if you want to specify a pattern as a Python regular expression.

>But when I tried to directly subscribe this address (after banning) it
>gets added to the list. I also tried ot ban [EMAIL PROTECTED] but still able to add
>this address to the list. Could you please help me on this?

The text you quote above says "Addresses in this list are banned
outright from subscribing to this mailing list". It does not say that
the list administrator is banned from subscribing them directly.

The ban list prevents people from subscribing themselves. It doesn't
prevent the administrator from subscribing them.

>I also could not figure out how to see the complete list of members as one
>file. I have more than 25000 members on my list.

The e-mail who command or the bin/list_members command although it
sounds like you don't have access to the latter.

>Same for the unsusbcribed
>members as I used to get these in Yahoo Groups quite easily.

I don't understand what you mean by a list of unsubscribed members. If
you mean a list of people who have been subscribed in the past but
aren't now, Mailman doesn't have that information. If you maen
notification of unsubscribes as they happen, this is controled by
admin_notify_mchanges on the lists General Options.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Messages not going out to list members

[Mark Sapiro]

Doron Tordjman wrote:

>I created a list using admin web interface, but members are not receiving 
>messages I am sending to the list.

Visit the FAQ
>Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
and read article 3.14.

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[Mailman-Users] HELP - can't authorize posts - timeout error

[Timothy Hagan]

I am receiving the emails from Mailman telling me that, as 
administrator, I need to authorize the delivery of a posting. It 
includes a link (for my convenience) to access the admin web page and 
approve the posting. However, my browser times out every time I try to 
link to it. Is there something that could be wrong with my server? Is 
there a way to approve this posting without going to the web?

HELP!
Tim Hagan
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804 497-8710
804 497-8712 FAX
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RE: [Mailman-Users] Probe Message Problem

[Mark Sapiro]

Gary Kaplan wrote:

>One of my users informed me that she got this message in which a couple
>hundred address from the list were disclosed. I want to know if there is a
>way to stop this. I don't want everyone who gets a probe message to see
>everyone's email address. I have noted where the address are listed but left
>the actual addresses off.
>
>
>>This is a probe message.  You can ignore this message.
>>

>>
>>Received: from mailnull by washington.hostforweb.net with local (Exim 4.41)
>>  id 1C9XAp-000348-CZ
>>  for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 20 Sep 2004 19:02:19 -0400
>>X-Failed-Recipients:
>
>At this point it lists a couple hundred email addresses
>
>Then is says this:
>
>>Auto-Submitted: auto-generated
>>From: Mail Delivery System <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender
>>Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 19:02:19 -0400
>>
>>This message was created automatically by mail delivery software.
>>
>>A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
>>recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:
>
>and list the addresses again.

It appears that Mailman is appending the bounce message to the probe
and in this case there were "a couple hundred" subscribers in the
washington.hostforweb.net domain that bounced.

In any case, this seems to be sufficient reason to not append the
original bounce mesage to the probe.

I'm far from fluent in Python, but it looks like either

  self.sendProbe(member, msg)
in the routine
  def registerBounce(self, member, msg, weight=1.0, day=None):
in Bouncer.py

or
  outer.attach(MIMEMessage(msg))
in
  def sendProbe(self, member, msg):
in Deliverer.py

are places where this can be addressed.

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[Mailman-Users] Pacing input

[Stewart Dean]

This is not strictly a Mailman question so much as a generic mailing list 
in-its-environment question.  The specific problem situation is that on Monday and Friday 
at my college, people will dump a ton of mailings into the hopper right at the end of the 
day.  I can have 20-40 (or more) mailings (to 20-400 list members each) dumped into the 
hopper with the same 15-30 minutes.  The hw/sw chugs away, but the latency can be from 30 
minutes to 2 hours.

Yes, this is stupid.  Yes, I know this would be like everyone in a store shopping all day, 
then attempting to all check out at the same time, that you'd need 300 cash registers. 
Alas, one of the realities of working at a college is that you can't issue directives and 
policies in the "You MUST" fashion the way you do in the business world.

So I'm wondering: has anyone implemented some kind of input throttling/pacing script or 
method that would be kind enough to share their experience/technique/wisdom?

Yes, I know that this won't speed up the throughput or reduce the latency...what I'm 
looking for is some way to introduce feedback to the user and put priority on the input.
I'm open to any suggestions, but one possibility I envision would be some sort of front 
end or method that would:

a) prioritize input (so that emergency messages with time value would get preferential 
treatment (by being submitted immediately, while the start of other less-time-ckritical 
submissions would be paced so that the machine, while loaded, was never really backed up. 
 In short, the imagined solution would be the controlling bottleneck (where it could be 
*managed*), rather than the host (where it is just piles up any old way).  Note that use 
of the various priorities would have to be controlled; if freely controllable by everyone, 
all messages will have top priority..

b) provide feedback by indicating the estimated projected latency with an indication of 
how much better things would be if the job hadn't be submitted right on top of an already 
loaded host.

Thanks in advance for any and all help or advice!
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[Mailman-Users] IOError: [Errno 40] Too many levels of symbolic links:

[Jennifer Dostal]

Hello all!
 
I'm using Mailman as my org's listserv. I didn't set it up, so I'm a bit lost with 
this error message. I get the error  when I click on the Overview of all lists link at 
the bottom of the page. I need to add some more lists but I can't because I now get 
this message. I am using a hosting service, so I don't have a lot of acces to the nuts 
and bolts of the server and services.
 
Thanks!
Jen
 
Bug in Mailman version 2.1.5
We're sorry, we hit a bug!
If you would like to help us identify the problem, please email a copy of this page to 
the webmaster for this site with a description of what happened. Thanks! Traceback:

Traceback (most recent call last):  File 
"/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/scripts/driver", line 87, in run_mainmain()  
File "/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/listinfo.py", line 42, in main
listinfo_overview()  File 
"/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/listinfo.py", line 87, in 
listinfo_overviewmlist = MailList.MailList(name, lock=0)  File 
"/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 128, in __init__
self.Load()  File "/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 629, 
in Loadself.CheckVersion(dict)  File 
"/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 671, in CheckVersion
self.InitVars()  File "/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 
372, in InitVarsbaseclass.InitVars(self)  File 
"/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py", line 111, in 
InitVarsfp = open(indexfile)IOError: [Errno 40] Too many levels of symbolic links:
 
'/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/archives/private/announcements_isf.waglo.com/index.html'

 
 




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Re: [Mailman-Users] Footer as attachment

[Mark Sapiro]

Ashley M. Kirchner wrote:
>
>Not sure how to configure and shut this off, but I noticed when 
>someone sends a plain/text formatted e-mail to a list, the footer comes 
>in as part of the message.  However, when someone sends a text/html 
>message, the footer becomes an attachment.  Is there a way to make the 
>footer always be part of the message?  Or is this something I need to 
>put before hitting mailman (like stripmime) to overcome this problem?

Visit the FAQ
>Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
and read article 4.39.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Umbella lists

[Mark Sapiro]

Richard Barrett wrote:
>
>On 24 Sep 2004, at 16:08, Chris Barnes wrote:
>
>> I have a question about umbrella lists.
>>
>> I understand the concept (and use them on my Lsoft Listserv lists).  
>> But
>> what I am unsure about is how they are implemented in MM.
>>
>> Please correct my thinking here.
>> If you have an umbrella list, it has a group of sublists to which it
>> will re-distribute its messages, right?  Then it should do these 2
>> things:
>>
>> a) make sure that a person that is subscribed to multiple sublists only
>> gets 1 copy of the message
>>
>> b) use it's own Subjectprefix (pre-empting the subject prefix of the
>> sublists)
>>
>>
>> The problem I have is that this is not what is happening.  Our umbrella
>> list is basically acting like the sublists are simple subscribers -
>> meaning neither (a) nor (b) above is occurring.
>>
>>
>
>Unfortunately you are saying what you think umbrella lists should do, 
>not understanding what MM does do with them, which is not very much.
>
>What Mailman does is described in the help for the umbrella_list and 
>umbrella_member_suffix list attributes on the General Options page of 
>the Mailman admin web GUI.
>
>If you want more then you will have to wait for Mailman's volunteer 
>developers to do it or become one and do it yourself.
>

But see FAQ article at
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq03.005.htp
for a possible work-around.

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RE: [Mailman-Users] Membership Management Error

[Franco, Ruben]

Unfortunately, the admin for this particular list was pretty upset and in a hurry so 
as a quick fix I extracted the membership listing (list_members) and rebuilt the list.

Thanks for the information.  I will keep it on file in case this issue reoccurs on 
another list.

Ruben


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Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 11:27 AM
To: Franco, Ruben; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Membership Management Error



Franco, Ruben wrote:

>   We are having a problem with one of our lists.  When trying to access the 
> "Membership Manangement" section, one gets the following error:
>
>--
>
>Bug in Mailman version 2.1.5
>We're sorry, we hit a bug!
>If you would like to help us identify the problem, please email a copy of this page 
>to the webmaster for this site with a description of what happened. Thanks! 
>Traceback:
>Traceback (most recent call last):
>  File "/usr/local/mailman/scripts/driver", line 87, in run_main
>main()
>  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py", line 198, in main
>show_results(mlist, doc, category, subcat, cgidata)
>  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py", line 498, in show_results
>form.AddItem(membership_options(mlist, subcat, cgidata, doc, form))
>  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py", line 870, in membership_options
>all = [_m.encode() for _m in mlist.getMembers()]
>UnicodeError: ASCII decoding error: ordinal not in range(128)

It looks like you have a subscriber address with a non-ascii character.

See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq03.013.htp

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[Mailman-Users] A problem tying Mailman to my Sendmail Server

[Brent Shafer]

I had initially had success with my first mailing list creation, except
for the fact that it sent to @localhost.local instead of the SMTP server's
true domain name mail.blackriver.k12.oh.us.  When I made the adjustment,
it will no longer send email through the SMTP server...  requests can be
made, the administration interface appears to work...  it just won't
verify via email that the list has been created.

Thanks for any help or ideas as to where to look.

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[Mailman-Users] A problem tying Mailman to my Sendmail Server

[Brent Shafer]

I had initially had success with my first mailing list creation, except
for the fact that it sent to @localhost.local instead of the SMTP server's
true domain name mail.blackriver.k12.oh.us.  When I made the adjustment,
it will no longer send email through the SMTP server...  requests can be
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Thanks for any help or ideas as to where to look.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Membership Management Error

[Mark Sapiro]

Franco, Ruben wrote:

>   We are having a problem with one of our lists.  When trying to access the 
> "Membership Manangement" section, one gets the following error:
>
>--
>
>Bug in Mailman version 2.1.5
>We're sorry, we hit a bug!
>If you would like to help us identify the problem, please email a copy of this page 
>to the webmaster for this site with a description of what happened. Thanks! 
>Traceback:
>Traceback (most recent call last):
>  File "/usr/local/mailman/scripts/driver", line 87, in run_main
>main()
>  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py", line 198, in main
>show_results(mlist, doc, category, subcat, cgidata)
>  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py", line 498, in show_results
>form.AddItem(membership_options(mlist, subcat, cgidata, doc, form))
>  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py", line 870, in membership_options
>all = [_m.encode() for _m in mlist.getMembers()]
>UnicodeError: ASCII decoding error: ordinal not in range(128)

It looks like you have a subscriber address with a non-ascii character.

See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq03.013.htp

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Privacy Options

[Mark Sapiro]

Abbas Qaizar wrote:
>
>If we look at one of the features in : -> Privacy Options > Subscription 
>Rules ---> What steps are required for subscription ??? And there are 
>3-options.
>
>if we go Confirm and Approve then ??? 

The potential subscriber gets a confirmation e-mail to confirm she/he
really wants to subscribe. This e-mail must be confirmed by replying
to the e-mail or visiting a web link in the mail.

After confirmation (the confirm part), the list moderator/owner is
notified of the subscription request and must approve it (the approve
part).

>Kindly keep in mind that the addresses are stored by the moderator 
>himself..members were neither invited nor they subscribed themselves.
>

If you are saying the addresses are subscribed directly via mass
subscribe, then the "steps required" don't apply. The addresses are
just subscribed immediately.

>Request to all those who are using this Mailman as an ANNOUNCEMENT 
>LIST.i.e. One-Way list as I need to know whether all subscribed members 
>are getting my mails regularly or not.
>

You could ask them...

OTOH, if Mailman is working and they aren't bouncing, then the mail is
getting as far as the subscriber's incoming MTA, and that's as much as
you can find out.

>Will anybody respond to this soon ?

People, I in particular, have responded to several of your previous
posts and answered questions similar if not identical to some of
these. See the archives at
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2004-September/thread.html
. Of course, if you haven't received any of those replies, you
probably won't receive this one either. This time, I'll try not
replying directly to you on the theory that maybe you can receive from
the list but not from me. If that doesn't work, I'm going to give up
trying to answer your questions.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Can't lock a list [repeat]

[Richard Barrett]

On 23 Sep 2004, at 20:41, Dwight A. Ernest wrote:
Environment: mm 2.1.5, python 2.2.3, rhel es3 u2
(I've searched FAQ for this, in vain...)
On a list (called reach-l), which has a very large archive mbox, I just
tried to do
$prefix/bin/arch --wipe reach-l
It got several hundred messages in and then blew up with a segmentation
fault. Reading a bit deeper, I see that perhaps I should have specified
some reasonable -s and -e values to limit the memory usage, but
hindsight is 20:20.
Since then, I've been unable to get a lock on the list. When I try, 
e.g,

$prefix/bin/arch -s 1 -e 499 --wipe reach-l
...it just hangs. When I interrupt (^C), I see:
Traceback (most recent call last):
   File "/var/mailman/bin/arch", line 189, in ?
 main()
   File "/var/mailman/bin/arch", line 141, in main
 mlist = MailList(listname)
   File "/var/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 126, in __init__
 self.Lock()
   File "/var/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 159, in Lock
 self.__lock.lock(timeout)
   File "/var/mailman/Mailman/LockFile.py", line 312, in lock
 self.__sleep()
   File "/var/mailman/Mailman/LockFile.py", line 496, in __sleep
 time.sleep(interval)
KeyboardInterrupt
...which I believe I can reproduce in its most simple case with this:
[mailman at lists reach-l]$ /var/mailman/bin/withlist reach-l
Loading list reach-l (unlocked)
The variable `m' is the reach-l MailList instance
m.Lock()
[it just hangs until I ^C, then:]
Traceback (most recent call last):
   File "", line 1, in ?
   File "/var/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 159, in Lock
 self.__lock.lock(timeout)
   File "/var/mailman/Mailman/LockFile.py", line 312, in lock
 self.__sleep()
   File "/var/mailman/Mailman/LockFile.py", line 496, in __sleep
 time.sleep(interval)
KeyboardInterrupt
m.Unlock()
Finalizing
[mailman at lists reach-l]$
How can I clean things up for this list such that service code that
wants to, can get a lock on the list?
Look in the $prefix/locks/ directory for stale locks associated with 
the list concerned.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Umbella lists

[Richard Barrett]

On 24 Sep 2004, at 16:08, Chris Barnes wrote:
I have a question about umbrella lists.
I understand the concept (and use them on my Lsoft Listserv lists).  
But
what I am unsure about is how they are implemented in MM.

Please correct my thinking here.
If you have an umbrella list, it has a group of sublists to which it
will re-distribute its messages, right?  Then it should do these 2
things:
a) make sure that a person that is subscribed to multiple sublists only
gets 1 copy of the message
b) use it's own Subjectprefix (pre-empting the subject prefix of the
sublists)
The problem I have is that this is not what is happening.  Our umbrella
list is basically acting like the sublists are simple subscribers -
meaning neither (a) nor (b) above is occurring.

Unfortunately you are saying what you think umbrella lists should do, 
not understanding what MM does do with them, which is not very much.

What Mailman does is described in the help for the umbrella_list and 
umbrella_member_suffix list attributes on the General Options page of 
the Mailman admin web GUI.

If you want more then you will have to wait for Mailman's volunteer 
developers to do it or become one and do it yourself.


umbrella_list (general): Send password reminders to, eg, "-owner" 
address instead of  directly to user.

Set this to yes when this list is intended to cascade only  to other 
mailing lists. When set, meta notices like  confirmations and password 
reminders will be directed to an  address derived from the member's 
address - it will have the  value of "umbrella_member_suffix" appended 
to the member's  account name.



umbrella_member_suffix (general): Suffix for use when this list is an 
umbrella for other  lists, according to setting of previous 
"umbrella_list"  setting.

When "umbrella_list" is set to indicate that this list has  other 
mailing lists as members, then administrative notices like 
confirmations and password reminders need to not be sent to the  member 
list addresses, but rather to the owner of those member lists. In that 
case, the value of this setting is appended to  the member's account 
name for such notices. `-owner' is the  typical choice. This setting 
has no effect when "umbrella_list"  is "No".


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[Mailman-Users] Compiling Mailman with --with-mail-gid

[Miguel Ferreira]

Hello,
 
I'm having huge problems getting mailman 2.1.5 to work in my system (Red Hat
9).
The problem has to do with the user sendmail uses to execute mailman.
Sending mail to an existing list returns the following error:
 
- Transcript of session follows - Group mismatch error. Mailman
expected the mail wrapper script to be executed as group "mailman", but the
system's mail server executed the mail script as group "mail". Try tweaking
the mail server to run the script as group "mailman", or re-run configure,
providing the command line option `--with-mail-gid=mail'.

I have configured and compiled mailman with with-mail-gid=mail but nothing
good came out from that. The system still returns the same error... 

Am I missing something here?

Help would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] List Woes

[Mark Sapiro]

John W. Baxter wrote:

>
>That takes care of only "authorized addresses" sending the list.  Without
>help from your mail system, it doesn't do much for preventing the forging of
>mail from the authorized addresses.
>
>You don't actually have to solve that problem until it happens (unless you
>fear the first instance will create a "hostile workplace" situation)...then
>require moderation until you come up with a better solution.

You can moderate everyone and post using an Approved: header with the
list password as an actual header or the first line of the message
body.

See FAQ article 3.11

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[Mailman-Users] Upgrade question

[Ashley M. Kirchner]

   Having moved from mailman 2.0.11 to 2.1.5, I'm left with a few 
questions:

   1) What, if anything, do I need to do to make sure the old lists 
work with the new mailman?  When I installed 2.1.5, it told me that it 
checked/fixed/converted lists at the very end of the installation.  Does 
that mean I'm all done, and I don't have to do anything else with the 
list files?

   2) Paths also changed when I upgraded.  The previous installation 
was in /usr/people/mailman, and it's now in /home/mailman.  Presumably, 
all the lists are still assuming they're using the old path.  What needs 
to be done to get that solved?

   Feel free to simply point me to the appropriate answer somewhere on 
the web, if it's available.


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[Mailman-Users] Footer as attachment

[Ashley M. Kirchner]

   Not sure how to configure and shut this off, but I noticed when 
someone sends a plain/text formatted e-mail to a list, the footer comes 
in as part of the message.  However, when someone sends a text/html 
message, the footer becomes an attachment.  Is there a way to make the 
footer always be part of the message?  Or is this something I need to 
put before hitting mailman (like stripmime) to overcome this problem?

   Running mailman 2.1.5...
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RE: [Mailman-Users] messages from "checkdbs" cron job

[Mark Sapiro]

Franco, Ruben wrote:

>   I ran "check_db -a -v" but none of the config.db or config.pck files were 
> found to be corrupted.  A few were missing for the newer lists but the help for 
> "check_db" says that is nothing to worry about.
>

in response to Jim Tittsler 
>
>It looks like there is a problem with the request.pck database of at 
>least one of your lists.  You can use the bin/check_db tool to help 
>narrow down which one.

According to it's documentation, bin/check_db doesn't check the
request.pck files, so there still may be a problem there even if
bin/check_db won't help find it.

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[Mailman-Users] Umbella lists

[Chris Barnes]

I have a question about umbrella lists.

I understand the concept (and use them on my Lsoft Listserv lists).  But 
what I am unsure about is how they are implemented in MM.

Please correct my thinking here.
If you have an umbrella list, it has a group of sublists to which it 
will re-distribute its messages, right?  Then it should do these 2 
things:

a) make sure that a person that is subscribed to multiple sublists only 
gets 1 copy of the message

b) use it's own Subjectprefix (pre-empting the subject prefix of the 
sublists)


The problem I have is that this is not what is happening.  Our umbrella 
list is basically acting like the sublists are simple subscribers - 
meaning neither (a) nor (b) above is occurring.


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[Mailman-Users] Re: Installation question

[Chris Barnes]

Dana Rasmussen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is it absolutely necessary to have root access to install Mailman?

Not just MM, but pretty much any package you want to install.


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RE: [Mailman-Users] Probe Message Problem

[Gary Kaplan]

One of my users informed me that she got this message in which a couple
hundred address from the list were disclosed. I want to know if there is a
way to stop this. I don't want everyone who gets a probe message to see
everyone's email address. I have noted where the address are listed but left
the actual addresses off.


>This is a probe message.  You can ignore this message.
>
>The Upcnews mailing list has received a number of bounces from you,
>indicating that there may be a problem delivering messages to
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] A bounce sample is attached below.  Please examine
>this message to make sure there are no problems with your email
>address.  You may want to check with your mail administrator for more
>help.
>
>If you are reading this, you don't need to do anything to remain an
>enabled member of the mailing list.  If this message had bounced, you
>would not be reading it, and your membership would have been disabled.
>Normally when you are disabled, you receive occasional messages asking
>you to re-enable your subscription.
>
>You can also visit your membership page at
>
>
>http://upc-online.org/mailman/options/upcnews_upc-online.org/sue%40jimgrish
am.com
>
>
>On your membership page, you can change various delivery options such
>as your email address and whether you get digests or not.  As a
>reminder, your membership password is
>
> ahneda
>
>If you have any questions or problems, you can contact the list owner
>at
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>Received: from mailnull by washington.hostforweb.net with local (Exim 4.41)
>   id 1C9XAp-000348-CZ
>   for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 20 Sep 2004 19:02:19 -0400
>X-Failed-Recipients:

At this point it lists a couple hundred email addresses

Then is says this:

>Auto-Submitted: auto-generated
>From: Mail Delivery System <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender
>Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 19:02:19 -0400
>
>This message was created automatically by mail delivery software.
>
>A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
>recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:

and list the addresses again.

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-Original Message-
From: Brad Knowles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 5:55 AM
To: Gary Kaplan
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Probe Message Problem


At 10:55 PM -0400 2004-09-20, Gary Kaplan wrote:

>  Untitled DocumentThe probe message that my list is sending out to members
>  who have had messages bounce list all the other users addresses who have
had
>  bounces. How can I fix this.

Could you give us some more details as to precisely what your
problem is, so that we have some idea of what you want fixed?

As a starting point, please see
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[Mailman-Users] Messages not going out to list members

[Doron Tordjman]

Hi,
Hopefully someone can help.
I created a list using admin web interface, but members are not receiving 
messages I am sending to the list.

Running:
Mailman 2.1.2
Installed from Mandrake 9.1 installation
MTA is sendmail
Thanks in advance,
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Errors During Make-Install

[Luis Murdock]

   Richard,
   Thank you for responding and the tip.  I had suspected python.
Here's what I get:
   isl{root}250: python
   Python 2.3.3 (#1, Sep 10 2004, 10:20:22)
   [GCC 3.2.3] on sunos5
   Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>> import socket
   Traceback (most recent call last):
 File "", line 1, in ?
 File "/usr/local/lib/python2.3/socket.py", line 44, in ?
   import _socket
   ImportError: No module named _socket
>>> import sys
>>> sys.exit()
   isl{root}251:
   I will install python again.  I will let you know how it goes.  Okay?  

   Thanks Again,

Richard Barrett wrote:
You probably have a problem with your Python installation.
_socket is part of the standard Python library providing support for 
the UNIX/BSD socket interface. Unless and until you can run python 
from the command line and enter the command "import socket" without 
getting an exception raised then there is no point in trying to do the 
Mailman install. You may need to re-install Python.

For instance, the following shows the socket module is installed 
properly (no exccption raised by the import):

[machine!/home/barrett]:python
Python 2.3.3 (#1, May 11 2004, 13:30:18)
[GCC 3.3.2] on sunos5
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>> import socket
>>> import sys
>>> sys.exit()
[machine!/home/barrett]:
On 22 Sep 2004, at 23:51, Luis Murdock wrote:
   Hello,
   I am trying to install and run Mailman on Solaris 2.7 or SunOS 5.7
   and I'm getting the following fatal when running 'make install':
   Traceback (most recent call last):
 File "bin/update", line 50, in ?
   from Mailman import Utils
 File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Utils.py", line 35, in ?
   import cgi
 File "/usr/local/lib/python2.3/cgi.py", line 39, in ?
   import urllib
 File "/usr/local/lib/python2.3/urllib.py", line 26, in ?
   import socket
 File "/usr/local/lib/python2.3/socket.py", line 44, in ?
   import _socket
   ImportError: No module named _socket
   *** Error code 1
   make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `update'
   I have installed python2.3.3 and will use Apache 2.0.  Can anyone
   help with this error?
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[Mailman-Users] Can't lock a list [repeat]

[Dwight A. Ernest]

Environment: mm 2.1.5, python 2.2.3, rhel es3 u2

(I've searched FAQ for this, in vain...)

On a list (called reach-l), which has a very large archive mbox, I just
tried to do

$prefix/bin/arch --wipe reach-l

It got several hundred messages in and then blew up with a segmentation
fault. Reading a bit deeper, I see that perhaps I should have specified
some reasonable -s and -e values to limit the memory usage, but
hindsight is 20:20.

Since then, I've been unable to get a lock on the list. When I try, e.g,

$prefix/bin/arch -s 1 -e 499 --wipe reach-l

...it just hangs. When I interrupt (^C), I see:

Traceback (most recent call last):
   File "/var/mailman/bin/arch", line 189, in ?
 main()
   File "/var/mailman/bin/arch", line 141, in main
 mlist = MailList(listname)
   File "/var/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 126, in __init__
 self.Lock()
   File "/var/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 159, in Lock
 self.__lock.lock(timeout)
   File "/var/mailman/Mailman/LockFile.py", line 312, in lock
 self.__sleep()
   File "/var/mailman/Mailman/LockFile.py", line 496, in __sleep
 time.sleep(interval)
KeyboardInterrupt

...which I believe I can reproduce in its most simple case with this:

[mailman at lists reach-l]$ /var/mailman/bin/withlist reach-l
Loading list reach-l (unlocked)
The variable `m' is the reach-l MailList instance
>>> m.Lock()

[it just hangs until I ^C, then:]

Traceback (most recent call last):
   File "", line 1, in ?
   File "/var/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 159, in Lock
 self.__lock.lock(timeout)
   File "/var/mailman/Mailman/LockFile.py", line 312, in lock
 self.__sleep()
   File "/var/mailman/Mailman/LockFile.py", line 496, in __sleep
 time.sleep(interval)
KeyboardInterrupt
>>> m.Unlock()
>>>
Finalizing
[mailman at lists reach-l]$

How can I clean things up for this list such that service code that
wants to, can get a lock on the list?

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[Mailman-Users] Ban List

[mehrab]

Dear Sir,

I own a mailing list which I manage thru mailman software. I am quite new
to this software. I actually used Yahoo Groups for more than theree years
for my list but recently migrated to my own server with mailman to manage
the list. I have difficulty in getting members ban from the list.
The ban list screen says the following:
"Addresses in this list are banned outright from subscribing to this
mailing list, with no further moderation required. Add addresses one per
line; start the line with a ^ character to designate a regular expression
match."
which means an address should be like [EMAIL PROTECTED]
But when I tried to directly subscribe this address (after banning) it
gets added to the list. I also tried ot ban [EMAIL PROTECTED] but still able to add
this address to the list. Could you please help me on this?
I also could not figure out how to see the complete list of members as one
file. I have more than 25000 members on my list. Same for the unsusbcribed
members as I used to get these in Yahoo Groups quite easily.
I have tried to find the info at university of washington pages but
unfortunately the information given there did work with me.

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[Mailman-Users] Membership Management Error

[Franco, Ruben]

Hi,
We are having a problem with one of our lists.  When trying to access the 
"Membership Manangement" section, one gets the following error:

--

Bug in Mailman version 2.1.5
We're sorry, we hit a bug!
If you would like to help us identify the problem, please email a copy of this page to 
the webmaster for this site with a description of what happened. Thanks! 
Traceback:
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/mailman/scripts/driver", line 87, in run_main
main()
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py", line 198, in main
show_results(mlist, doc, category, subcat, cgidata)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py", line 498, in show_results
form.AddItem(membership_options(mlist, subcat, cgidata, doc, form))
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py", line 870, in membership_options
all = [_m.encode() for _m in mlist.getMembers()]
UnicodeError: ASCII decoding error: ordinal not in range(128)



Python information:
VariableValue   
sys.version 2.2.3 (#1, Aug 8 2003, 08:44:02) [GCC 3.2.3 20030502 (Red Hat Linux 
3.2.3-13)]  
sys.executable  /usr/bin/python 
sys.prefix  /usr
sys.exec_prefix /usr
sys.path/usr
sys.platformlinux2  

Environment variables:
VariableValue   
HTTP_REFERERhttp://listserv.utep.edu/mailman/admin/mpo  
SCRIPT_FILENAME /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/admin
PYTHONPATH  /usr/local/mailman  
SERVER_SOFTWARE Apache  
SERVER_ADMIN[EMAIL PROTECTED]   
SCRIPT_NAME /mailman/admin  
SERVER_SIGNATUREApache Server at listserv.utep.edu Port 80  
REQUEST_METHOD  GET 
HTTP_HOST   listserv.utep.edu   
PATH_INFO   /mpo/members
SERVER_PROTOCOL HTTP/1.1
QUERY_STRING
REQUEST_URI /mailman/admin/mpo/members  
HTTP_ACCEPT image/gif, image/x-xbitmap, image/jpeg, image/pjpeg, 
application/vnd.ms-powerpoint, application/vnd.ms-excel, application/msword, 
application/x-shockwave-flash, */*
PATH_TRANSLATED /usr/local/mailman/mpo/members  
HTTP_USER_AGENT Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; Avant 
Browser [avantbrowser.com])
HTTP_CONNECTION Keep-Alive  
HTTP_COOKIE 
unix-admins+admin=28020069c9335441732800663036353134306639323732326236303263666436653361386563653067616238323631;
 
mpo+admin=28020069dc3354417328003438393030353838333837666538373530366634626538663263316364346661616560623739
  
SERVER_NAME listserv.utep.edu   
REMOTE_ADDR 129.108.1.43
REMOTE_PORT 3098
HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGEen-us   
UNIQUE_ID   FIUlSYFsAFbyQlkD
SERVER_PORT 80  
GATEWAY_INTERFACE   CGI/1.1 
HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODINGgzip, deflate   
SERVER_ADDR 129.108.0.80
DOCUMENT_ROOT   /usr/local/mailman  


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[Mailman-Users] I do not wish to be subscribed

[Elve Raukas]

I do not wish to be subscribed to "Mailman -Users" mailing list.
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[Mailman-Users] Domain in the To: header

[Jolin M Warren]

I am having a problem getting Mailman to use the correct domain in 
the list address for my lists. Here's the situation:

 -The domain for my lists is 
 -The DNS entry for this domain maps it to 
, which resolves to the actual IP address:
  lists.foe-edinburgh.org.uk. 300 IN  CNAME   foe-edinburgh.dnsalias.net

 -the 'host_name' setting for this list is set to "lists.foe-edinburgh.org.uk"
Here's my problem: when someone posts to the list 'example', they use 
the address:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
In every case I have checked, this is the address that is being 
entered into the 'To:' field of the sender's mailer. However, some 
MTAs seem to be automatically substituting the CNAME for the domain 
in the To: address, so the email that arrives at my server has the 
To: address of:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have checked all of the headers of these emails, and the received 
headers are as follows:

Received: from xxx (xx.xx.xx.xx) by xx.xx.net (xx.xx.xx.xx)
id xxx for [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In fact, all of the headers in the message use the 
 domain (because the server considers 
this its hostname). The ONLY place that  
appears is in the To: header. Yet when I have the sender forward me 
the original email they posted, the To: header is in fact set to 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.

Now, here's my question: Is there any way to get Mailman to recognise 
that the message was addressed to 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (as the Received: headers can 
see) and post the message with a To: header using that address? I 
would really prefer that list members never see anything with the 
 domain.

Thanks for any help with this.
Cheers,
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Re: [Mailman-Users] A non-text attachment was scrubbed...

[Tokio Kikuchi]

Hi,
Chris Boulter wrote:
Oddly, when there is a text body as well as binary attachments, the
attachments seem to be silently dropped without mention, and there is no
hyperlink to retrieve them. Is there any reason why this might happen?
I have updated SourceForge CVS Scrubber.py as what I think better.
Please give it a try and check if it continues the silent dropping.
You can get Scrubber.py alone but need to update Defalts.py also.
And, the word 'scrub' still remains 
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[Mailman-Users] A non-text attachment was scrubbed...

[Chris Boulter]

I've sometimes seen the text
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
in our digests and archives, along with a hyperlink to a file. This seems
to be inserted by Mailman when it strips a binary attachment.

This text was scaring our users, since the use of the word 'scrubbed'
sounds like some malicious content was identified. I've changed it in our
installation to just say
A non-text attachment...

Any problems with this? Is my understanding correct of when we would
expect to see the text?

Oddly, when there is a text body as well as binary attachments, the
attachments seem to be silently dropped without mention, and there is no
hyperlink to retrieve them. Is there any reason why this might happen?
(I've hacked with HyperArch.py and Scrubber.py in other ways, so it may be
a bug I've introduced.)

Many thanks,
Chris

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[Mailman-Users] Privacy Options

[Abbas Qaizar]

Hello Everybody,

If we look at one of the features in : -> Privacy Options > Subscription Rules 
---> What steps are required for subscription ??? And there are 3-options.

if we go Confirm and Approve then ??? 

Kindly keep in mind that the addresses are stored by the moderator 
himself..members were neither invited nor they subscribed themselves.

Request to all those who are using this Mailman as an ANNOUNCEMENT 
LIST.i.e. One-Way list as I need to know whether all subscribed members 
are getting my mails regularly or not.

Will anybody respond to this soon ?




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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Questions

[Brad Knowles]

At 9:17 PM -0700 2004-09-23, Mark Sapiro wrote:
 Read the material in Defaults.py regarding VERP_CONFIRM_FORMAT,
 VERP_CONFIRM_REGEXP and VERP_CONFIRMATIONS.
	I stand corrected.  I had missed this option.  For the benefit of 
those who don't know what Mark is talking about, these options say:

# For nicer confirmation emails, use a VERP-like format which encodes the
# confirmation cookie in the reply address.  This lets us put a more user
# friendly Subject: on the message, but requires cooperation from the MTA.
# Format is like VERP_FORMAT above, but with the following substitutions:
#
# %(confirm)s -- the list-confirm mailbox will be set here
# %(cookie)s  -- the confirmation cookie will be set here
VERP_CONFIRM_FORMAT = '%(addr)s+%(cookie)s'
# This is analogous to VERP_REGEXP, but for splitting apart the
# VERP_CONFIRM_FORMAT.
VERP_CONFIRM_REGEXP = r'^(?P[^+]+?)\+(?P[EMAIL PROTECTED])@.*$'
# Set this to Yes to enable VERP-like (more user friendly) confirmations
VERP_CONFIRMATIONS = No
	Not that I know of, no.
 Go to the FAQ at http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py and read
 article 3.9.
Interesting.  I missed that one, too.
Thanks for the clarifications!
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Re: [Mailman-Users] List Woes

[Brad Knowles]

At 10:58 PM -0700 2004-09-23, John W. Baxter wrote:
 That takes care of only "authorized addresses" sending the list.  Without
 help from your mail system, it doesn't do much for preventing the forging of
 mail from the authorized addresses.
	True enough.  Out of the box, Mailman does not have any 
cryptographic authentication mechanisms to verify that a given person 
really did send a particular message.

 You don't actually have to solve that problem until it happens (unless you
 fear the first instance will create a "hostile workplace" situation)...then
 require moderation until you come up with a better solution.
	I understand that there is a patch to add PGP authentication (see 
), 
and there may be other alternatives for similar integration as well.

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