[Mailman-Users] how a group is defined?

2004-11-09 Thread 82103902
I wanna know how the users identify the mail is received from group rather
than an indivisual?
any idea?
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Surgemail, FreeBSD and Mailman

2004-11-09 Thread Thomas Carpentier
Created a new list via the web page called testlist and added my 
email address via the account management screen. When I went to send 
a test email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I got an error message in 
response from the local mail server.

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This Message was undeliverable due to the following reason:
Each of the following recipients was rejected by a remote mail server.
The reasons given by the server are included to help you determine why
each recipient was rejected.
Recipient: testlist at worldprism dot net
Reason:No such user (testlist) -ERR testlist at worldprism 
dot net not found
[...]
You have a problem with the integration of mailman into surgemail. I 
can't tell you more about it, I don't know surgemail.
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[Mailman-Users] mail disappears

2004-11-09 Thread by
Hello,

We have exacty the same problem as described in:

http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-developers@python.org/msg07362.html

[quote]

I am having trouble sending e-mail to my mailing list...I created a list and

I have been using it for about 6 months, but all of a sudden, when I e-mail
a

post...it just disappears and doesn't even appear on the moderator's page.

[/quote]

We also have a whole bunch of mailing lists for 1 domain that suddenly have
stopped working. Mail sent to them simply disappears.

However, when creating a new mailing list under the same domainname, it
works fine.

We are running redhat 7.3 / Cpanel / Exim

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Re: [Mailman-Users] How do I remove an owner from the command line?

2004-11-09 Thread Jim Tittsler
On Nov 9, 2004, at 02:15, G James Jones wrote:
Recently I got a request to remove the owner of a couple of our lists.
I know that I can do this from the web, but is there a way to remove
list owners from the command line?
You can use bin/withlist to manipulate the mailing list object.  Use 
the command line option to lock the list, use standard Python syntax to 
modify the object to suit (getting clues about variable names from the 
web interface and Defaults.py), and then Save() the modified object.  
(Making backup copies of the list object before making modifications is 
always a good idea.)

The 'owner' variable is a list of strings.
$ bin/withlist -l mylist
 print m.owner
['[EMAIL PROTECTED]', '[EMAIL PROTECTED]']
 del m.owner[m.owner.index('[EMAIL PROTECTED]')]
 print m.owner
['[EMAIL PROTECTED]']
 m.owner.insert(0, '[EMAIL PROTECTED]')
 print m.owner
['[EMAIL PROTECTED]', '[EMAIL PROTECTED]']
 m.Save()
 {ctrl-D}
Run 'bin/withlist --h' for a description of how you can use the -r 
switch to make that into a command line script you can call with 
withlist.  (There are many examples in the mailman-users archives.)

You can also use bin/config_list (check both the -i and -o switches) to 
get human readable/editable information, rather than bin/withlist's 
more programatic style.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] mail disappears

2004-11-09 Thread Brad Knowles
At 12:58 PM +0100 2004-11-09, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 We also have a whole bunch of mailing lists for 1 domain that suddenly have
 stopped working. Mail sent to them simply disappears.
	Go to the Mailman FAQ Wizard at 
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py and look at question 3.14.

 We are running redhat 7.3 / Cpanel / Exim
See also question 6.11.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Surgemail, FreeBSD and Mailman

2004-11-09 Thread G James Jones
 
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 From: Russ Pagenkopf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Mailman-Users] Surgemail, FreeBSD and Mailman
 Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 20:26:36 -0900
 
 Hi all,
 
 Hope this isn't too simple a problem; either I can't wrap my head around 
 it or I can't find it in the documentation/faq anywhere.
 
 Anyways, I'm running FreeBSD 4.9, Python 2.3_1, Surgemail 2.1c7 and 
 Mailman 2.1.5. Compiled fine and did the initial INSTALL steps. Have run 
 check_perm a few time and have stopped getting errors.
 
 Created a new list via the web page called testlist and added my email 
 address via the account management screen. When I went to send a test 
 email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I got an error message in response from 
 the local mail server.
 

I don't use Surgemail, but I get similar errors when using Postfix (our
MTA) if I don't set up the aliases in the postfix  mail alias file
(under linux, /etc/postfix/aliases) for the list that I created .

A typical alias for a test list might look like:

testlist:  |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post testlist

testlist-admin:|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman admin testlist

testlist-bounces:  |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman bounces
testlist

testlist-confirm:  |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman confirm
testlist

testlist-join: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman join testlist

testlist-leave:|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman leave testlist

testlist-owner:|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman owner testlist

testlist-request:  |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman request
testlist

testlist-subscribe:|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe
testlist

testlist-unsubscribe:  |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe
testlist

After adding these entries, I have to execute the postfix newaliases
command to register them.

If I forget either step, I get very similar errors to the one below.

Hope this helps-

Jim Jones

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 This Message was undeliverable due to the following reason:
 
 Each of the following recipients was rejected by a remote mail server.
 The reasons given by the server are included to help you determine why
 each recipient was rejected.
 
  Recipient: testlist at worldprism dot net
  Reason:No such user (testlist) -ERR testlist at worldprism dot 
 net not found
 
 Please reply to postmaster at uas dot alaska dot edu
 if you feel this message to be in error.
 
 Reporting-MTA: dns; mail.uas.alaska.edu
 Received-From-MTA:dns; [137.229.198.76]
 Arrival-Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 20:17:31 -0900
 
 Remote-Recipient: rfc822;[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Diagnostic-Code: smtp;551 SMTP-Deliver:BadRecipient
 Action: failed
 Status: 5.1.6
 Remote-MTA: DNS;mail.worldprism.net
 Last-Attempt-Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 20:17:38 -0900
 
 Subject: test
 From: Russ Pagenkopf russ.pagenkopf at uas dot alaska dot edu
 Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 20:17:31 -0900
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 Suggestions?
 
 Thanks,
 Russ Pagenkopf
 
 
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[Mailman-Users] No web interface

2004-11-09 Thread Ralph Utbult
Hi all,

I'm new to this list. My name is Ralph Utbult and I work'n'live in Sweden. My 
main occupation is fixing Windows (and users of it...). I run one *nix 
(Mandrake for the time) for mail.

My question:
Is it possible to use Mailman in a simpler way than subscribing via web? I 
would like to subscribe/unsubscribe via mail, as other list servers do.

Regards,

Ralph Utbult
Systemansvarig
ABF Göteborg

Besöksadress: Södra Allégatan 1, 4:e vån, Göteborg
Postadress: Olof Palmes Plats, 413 04  Göteborg

Telefon: 031-7743176
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Re: [Mailman-Users] How do I remove an owner from the command line?

2004-11-09 Thread G James Jones
On Tue, 2004-11-09 at 06:25, Jim Tittsler wrote:
 On Nov 9, 2004, at 02:15, G James Jones wrote:
 
  Recently I got a request to remove the owner of a couple of our lists.
 
  I know that I can do this from the web, but is there a way to remove
  list owners from the command line?
 
 You can use bin/withlist to manipulate the mailing list object.  Use 
 the command line option to lock the list, use standard Python syntax to 
 modify the object to suit (getting clues about variable names from the 
 web interface and Defaults.py), and then Save() the modified object.  
 (Making backup copies of the list object before making modifications is 
 always a good idea.)
 
 The 'owner' variable is a list of strings.
 
 $ bin/withlist -l mylist
   print m.owner
 ['[EMAIL PROTECTED]', '[EMAIL PROTECTED]']
   del m.owner[m.owner.index('[EMAIL PROTECTED]')]
   print m.owner
 ['[EMAIL PROTECTED]']
   m.owner.insert(0, '[EMAIL PROTECTED]')
   print m.owner
 ['[EMAIL PROTECTED]', '[EMAIL PROTECTED]']
   m.Save()
   {ctrl-D}
 
 Run 'bin/withlist --h' for a description of how you can use the -r 
 switch to make that into a command line script you can call with 
 withlist.  (There are many examples in the mailman-users archives.)
 

That looks like the stuff I was looking for.  I will give it a shot.


 You can also use bin/config_list (check both the -i and -o switches) to 
 get human readable/editable information, rather than bin/withlist's 
 more programatic style.

One question with using bin/config_list?  If I output the original
configuration with -o, then change the configuration (adding and/or
removing owners and moderators) and then use the modified config file
with bin/config_list -i to apply the new configuration back to the list,
will I damage anything?

config_list looks like an easier route until my python abilities get up
to being able to extend (using withlist) mailman for my personal needs.

I just want to make sure that importing a modified config over an
existing config isn't going to cause more headaches than it relieves.

Thanks for the prompt help.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] erasing archived message

2004-11-09 Thread Sean

 FreeBSD-4.9
 mailman-2.1.5


 can somebody please send me to a link or tutorial that shows how to
 remove a message from the archives please?

 cheers,

 Noah

I'm not aware of link or tutorial for this.  To remove the a message from
the archives you need shell access to the server running mailman and
access the ~mailman/bin commands.

Edit the mbox file for the list to remove the message and run
~mailman/bin/arch to rebuild the archive.  Run arch with the --wipe option
to remove the original archive before rebuilding.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] No web interface

2004-11-09 Thread Mark Sapiro
Ralph Utbult wrote:

My question:
Is it possible to use Mailman in a simpler way than subscribing via web? I 
would like to subscribe/unsubscribe via mail, as other list servers do.


Send blank e-mail with Subject: help to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] for a list of available e-mail
requests.

Also, you can subscribe by e-mailing [EMAIL PROTECTED] or
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and leave by e-mailing
[EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: [Mailman-Users] How do I remove an owner from the command line?

2004-11-09 Thread Mark Sapiro
G James Jones wrote:

One question with using bin/config_list?  If I output the original
configuration with -o, then change the configuration (adding and/or
removing owners and moderators) and then use the modified config file
with bin/config_list -i to apply the new configuration back to the list,
will I damage anything?

Depends what you mess up in the edit :-)

config_list looks like an easier route until my python abilities get up
to being able to extend (using withlist) mailman for my personal needs.

I just want to make sure that importing a modified config over an
existing config isn't going to cause more headaches than it relieves.

It won't if you only change what you want to be changed.

Note that with bin/config_list -i, you only have to input those
attributes you want to change. Everything else is unchanged.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] How do I remove an owner from the command line?

2004-11-09 Thread G James Jones
On Tue, 2004-11-09 at 11:20, Mark Sapiro wrote:
 G James Jones wrote:
 
 One question with using bin/config_list?  If I output the original
 configuration with -o, then change the configuration (adding and/or
 removing owners and moderators) and then use the modified config file
 with bin/config_list -i to apply the new configuration back to the list,
 will I damage anything?
 
 Depends what you mess up in the edit :-)


THAT'S a unix/linux/bsd thing... like Will typing rm-rf hurt my Linux
install? It depends where you are when you do it.  =^)


 
 config_list looks like an easier route until my python abilities get up
 to being able to extend (using withlist) mailman for my personal needs.
 
 I just want to make sure that importing a modified config over an
 existing config isn't going to cause more headaches than it relieves.
 
 It won't if you only change what you want to be changed.
 

I tried it on a test channel and it seemed to work fine... so I
proceeded with the rest.

using bin/config_list was still clunky, but not as clunky as having to
change all of them through the web.  Thanks for the help.

withlist seems very promising.  Time to add Go Ahead and Start Learning
Python Already!!! to my growing todo list.  A couple of custom tools
could come in handy.



 Note that with bin/config_list -i, you only have to input those
 attributes you want to change. Everything else is unchanged.
 
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[Mailman-Users] Seeing message as a attachment

2004-11-09 Thread Bob Escher
When I send a message out to a list
the footer always show up in outlook or outlook
express as a attachment. Is there a way to change this
to not show it as a attachment in the email

Thank you

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Re: [Mailman-Users] erasing archived message (solved)

2004-11-09 Thread Noah

 This is all described in much more detail along with various caveats 
 at http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.003.htp


this is a perfect turtorial.  thanks for sending it along.

cheers,

Noah


 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Seeing message as a attachment

2004-11-09 Thread Mark Sapiro
Bob Escher wrote:

When I send a message out to a list
the footer always show up in outlook or outlook
express as a attachment. Is there a way to change this
to not show it as a attachment in the email

Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py

See article 4.39.

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[Mailman-Users] LDAP for list owner auth during creation

2004-11-09 Thread Mike Richardson
Has anyone done any work on modifying Mailman 2.1 so that when a user tries
to create a mailing list it authenticated them against an LDAP server and
uses an LDAP attribute such as 'mail' to populate the list owner address
field? 

It would also be nice to have a way of logging in as said list owner
(authenticating against LDAP) and getting a list owner screen showing all
the lists they own. 

Any helpful tips if/when I do it myself would be appreciated. 

Thanks

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[Mailman-Users] Bounce processing

2004-11-09 Thread Alexis
Hi all, is there anyway to avoid account disable/remove by bounce processing
based on domains?

This is, we have announcement lists and some of our users have autorespond
messages and get disabled/removed from the lists, we want to avoid bounce
processing for our domain.

Thank you

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce processing

2004-11-09 Thread Mark Sapiro
Alexis wrote:

Hi all, is there anyway to avoid account disable/remove by bounce processing
based on domains?

This is, we have announcement lists and some of our users have autorespond
messages and get disabled/removed from the lists, we want to avoid bounce
processing for our domain.

I'm confused.

Your post yesterday said:

Hi all, is there any way to prevent some domains to be disabled/removed by
bounce processing?

I thought this and your first paragraph above ask about not processing
bounces from specific members domains.

Your second paragraph above seems to ask about disabling bounce
processing for entire lists.

This latter is easy to do by list, just set bounce_processing to No
on the list's Bounce Processing page.

However, a list member's autoresponder normally doesn't result in a
recognized bounce. Are you sure that's the issue?

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