[Mailman-Users] lost attachment/mime part on archive

2005-01-07 Thread Joshua, C.S. Chen
Hi all,
I recently enabled mailman for my institute's helpdesk, so that we can
view the archive for tracking. It works fine for us. I'm using mailman
2.1.5 + apache 2.0 (httpd 2.0.52 on fedora core 3).
Now I found that, a user requested for help, sending to
cchelp@(mydomain). the list members get the mail correctly. But when we
try to view the user's post at the archive page, all it's mime parts
were scrubbed. The archived message looks like this



[cchelp] Re: Personal database Qestion
Vicky Liao jhliao at (mydomain)
Fri Jan 7 10:20:15 CST 2005

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Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-- next part
--
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL:
http://(mydomain)/pipermail/cchelp/attachments/20050107/3002a633/contractperson-0001.htm
-- next part --
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL:
http://(mydomain)/pipermail/cchelp/attachments/20050107/3002a633/researchfellow-1-0001.htm
-- next part --
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL:
http://(mydomain)/pipermail/cchelp/attachments/20050107/3002a633/ReportProcedure-0001.htm
-- next part --
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL:
http://(mydomain)/pipermail/cchelp/attachments/20050107/3002a633/leaverequetform-0001.htm
-- next part --
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL:
http://(mydomain)/pipermail/cchelp/attachments/20050107/3002a633/leavelist-0001.htm

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And when I click on the individual attchment/mime part, I saw html
source code instead of web pages/documents.


My question is:
1, is it possible that the mime/parts be with the archived message
itself and not scrubbed?

2, if the parts need to be linked elsewhere, how can I view it's
original state.



Thanks in advance
Joshua C.S. Chen



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Re: [Mailman-Users] lost attachment/mime part on archive

2005-01-07 Thread Tokio Kikuchi
Hi,
1, is it possible that the mime/parts be with the archived message
itself and not scrubbed?
Pipermail archiver cannot treat attachments so the message must be 
scrubbed before being passed to the archiver.

2, if the parts need to be linked elsewhere, how can I view it's
original state.
You can set
ARCHIVE_HTML_SANITIZER = 3
in mm_cfg.py. Read Defaults.py for detail.
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[Mailman-Users] Identical list names on milti-virtual-domains host

2005-01-07 Thread Yassen Damyanov
Hi, list!

A multi-virtual-domain host running mailman/postfix/apache2.

The bin/newlist script tells me that I can specify the web host
that is associated with the list:

"You can specify the domain to create your new list in by spelling
the listname like so:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]"

So far so good... but doing so does not seem to let mailman distinguish
between [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] ...

Is there a way to have two lists with idential names and different
domains?

Your help would be greatly appreciated!
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[Mailman-Users] Migrating from one server to another

2005-01-07 Thread Adam Cripps
We are in the process of migrating our old mailman server to another
piece of hardware. Currently the new hardware is a Suse server running
sendmail, with a mailman package installed (I'm not sure which
version). The old server is running Mailman 2.1.4. The Suse server has
apache installed and working sucessfully along with sendmail sending
and receiving mail. The next step is Mailman.

What is the best plan of action for migrating the existing lists from
one server to another? Would it be to copy over the files which
control each list in to the software that is already installed on the
Suse server? Or alternatively, would it be better to copy across the
software lock, stock and barrel?

Any advice would be greatfully appreciated.

TIA
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Migrating from one server to another

2005-01-07 Thread Gerhard Killesreiter


On Fri, 7 Jan 2005, Adam Cripps wrote:

> We are in the process of migrating our old mailman server to another
> piece of hardware. Currently the new hardware is a Suse server running
> sendmail, with a mailman package installed (I'm not sure which
> version). The old server is running Mailman 2.1.4. The Suse server has
> apache installed and working sucessfully along with sendmail sending
> and receiving mail. The next step is Mailman.
>
> What is the best plan of action for migrating the existing lists from
> one server to another? Would it be to copy over the files which
> control each list in to the software that is already installed on the
> Suse server?

That is what I've done recently. Make sure that the mailman installations
are compatible and test the new setup before copying lists across. Also
make sure Apache works as expected etc.

Cheers,
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Identical list names on milti-virtual-domains host

2005-01-07 Thread Mark Sapiro
Yassen Damyanov wrote:
>
>Is there a way to have two lists with idential names and different
>domains?

See
>Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
article 4.47.

Note that the FAQ article refers to a patch on sourceforge that may
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Identical list names on milti-virtual-domains host

2005-01-07 Thread Yassen Damyanov
On Friday 07 January 2005 16:56, you wrote:

Mark, thanks so much!

From the Mailman FAQ Section 4.47:

"The modified version of Mailman, shipped by Cpanel as part of their 
commercial hosting product for ISPs, adopts a different, 
list-name-munging solution to the problem but Cpanel have not made the
modified source code generally available in the public domain."

Isn't this a violation of the GPL-2 or do I miss something?

Yassen

> Yassen Damyanov wrote:
> >
> >Is there a way to have two lists with idential names and different
> >domains?
> 
> See
> >Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
> article 4.47.
> 
> Note that the FAQ article refers to a patch on sourceforge that may
> help.
> 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Migrating from one server to another

2005-01-07 Thread Adam Cripps
On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 15:24:11 +0100, Gerhard Killesreiter
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> On Fri, 7 Jan 2005, Adam Cripps wrote:
> 
> > We are in the process of migrating our old mailman server to another
> > piece of hardware. Currently the new hardware is a Suse server running
> > sendmail, with a mailman package installed (I'm not sure which
> > version). The old server is running Mailman 2.1.4. The Suse server has
> > apache installed and working sucessfully along with sendmail sending
> > and receiving mail. The next step is Mailman.
> >
> > What is the best plan of action for migrating the existing lists from
> > one server to another? Would it be to copy over the files which
> > control each list in to the software that is already installed on the
> > Suse server?
> 
> That is what I've done recently. Make sure that the mailman installations
> are compatible and test the new setup before copying lists across. Also
> make sure Apache works as expected etc.
> 
> Cheers,
> Gerhard
> 

Which files will  need to look transport if I leave Suse's standard
install on the target machine? Is there any documentation out there
specifying them?

TIA
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Identical list names on milti-virtual-domains host

2005-01-07 Thread Todd
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Yassen Damyanov wrote:
> From the Mailman FAQ Section 4.47:
>
> "The modified version of Mailman, shipped by Cpanel as part of their
> commercial hosting product for ISPs, adopts a different,
> list-name-munging solution to the problem but Cpanel have not made
> the modified source code generally available in the public domain."
>
> Isn't this a violation of the GPL-2 or do I miss something?

I think it's rather shady, for sure.  I submitted some questions to
the folks at cPanel asking for the modifications and it took a long
while before I finally got a link where the changes were posted:

http://koston.org/mailman-patches/

I don't know how current the patch there is, it says it's for 2.1.3,
though I know from working with some people that have cPanel installed
on their servers that cPanel has mailman 2.1.5 included at this point.

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[Mailman-Users] pre-approve message?

2005-01-07 Thread Christopher Adams
Is there a way for a list owner to pre-approve a message to a list that 
has the moderation bit set on for all subscribers?  I remember that in 
Majordomo, one could send the message with a line like Approve: 
 as the first line of the message and it would override 
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[Mailman-Users] how to fix ASCII encoding error in admindb?

2005-01-07 Thread Mike Alberghini
I'm fighting with a bad message in one of my lists.  I click on 
"Tend to pending moderator requests" on the admin page and get the
"We hit a bug!" page that dumps with 

UnicodeError: ASCII encoding error: ordinal not in range(128)

I know i've got a bad char somewhere in a held message, but when I
move all the heldmesg-* files for that list out of /mailman/data
I still hit the problem!

What am I missing?  Where else is the data stored and how can i nuke
so the list will work again?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] pre-approve message?

2005-01-07 Thread Mark Sapiro
Christopher Adams wrote

>Is there a way for a list owner to pre-approve a message to a list that 
>has the moderation bit set on for all subscribers?  I remember that in 
>Majordomo, one could send the message with a line like Approve: 
> as the first line of the message and it would override 
>any security settings for the list.

It works in Mailman too.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] add_members slow, very slow..

2005-01-07 Thread kalin mintchev

> "kalin mintchev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> 7 hours now and counting... am i the only one on this list?!
>
> No, I think it just means no on has an answer for you.
>
> Have you tried putting some debugging prints into the code or
> anything?

no.. but will it help turning subscribe/unsubscribe notification off?
less mail to write to the queue, right?
does mailman wait for the mail to be sent to continue deleting or entering
addresses from/in the list?!

thanks.

>
> -Karl
>
>> > uhhh...  it's going close to 5 1/2 hours now!  i need this list to be
>> > operational today! what's the big deal with reading 1 lines of
>> email
>> > addresses. i would have read them by now a few dozen times.
>> > what's up with add_members?!?
>> >
>> >> hi all...
>> >>
>> >> i have a mailman version 2.0.13 running on an older box - rh 7.1 and
>> i
>> >> had
>> >> to replace the members of a list. so i removed all. this took about 1
>> >> 1/2
>> >> hours to finish and now i'm importing the members back in - they are
>> >> about
>> >> 10 000. it has been going on for about 3 hours.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> this is how i executed the command:
>> >> /add_members -n addss.txt -c n -w n listname
>> >>
>> >> why add_members is so slow?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> thanks
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[Mailman-Users] -1 request(s) waiting?

2005-01-07 Thread David Purdue
I am using mailman 2.1.5 on OpenBSD 3.6 sparc64.
I am in process of migrating mailing lists to this machine from another, 
so the lists are all set up but are not currently handling mail.

But I am getting a daily reminder from mailman on this machine (mailing 
list name changed):

=-=-=-=-=
Subject: -1 [List] moderator request(s) waiting
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2005 08:00:03 +1100
X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5
List-Id: "[List description.]" <[list].[domain]>
X-List-Administrivia: yes
Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list has -1 request(s) waiting
for your consideration at:
http://www.[domain]/mailman/admindb/[list]
Please attend to this at your earliest convenience.  This notice of
pending requests, if any, will be sent out daily.
=-=-=-=-=
Why would there be -1 requests waiting, and where can I go to correct this?
Many thanks,
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Re: [Mailman-Users] add_members slow, very slow..

2005-01-07 Thread Karl Fogel
"kalin mintchev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > "kalin mintchev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >> 7 hours now and counting... am i the only one on this list?!
> >
> > No, I think it just means no on has an answer for you.
> >
> > Have you tried putting some debugging prints into the code or
> > anything?
> 
> no.. but will it help turning subscribe/unsubscribe notification off?
> less mail to write to the queue, right?
> does mailman wait for the mail to be sent to continue deleting or entering
> addresses from/in the list?!
> 
> thanks.

I'm sorry, I don't know the answers.

Sometimes when I've needed to debug Mailman, I've found it useful to
put in custom logging statements.  For example, in
/usr/lib/mailman/scripts/bounces, I'll put statements like

   print >> sys.stderr, _('KFF: reached here: %(listname)s')

Then I watch /var/lib/mailman/logs/bounces, to see which of my
statements get printed, and with what data.

It helps to know a little Python, but you don't need to know much.

Note the line

   LogStdErr('error', 'bounces')

at the top of the script.  The first part says to log standard error,
the second part says which logfile to use.  Each script has a line
like this near the top.

Hope this helps you debug,
-Karl


> >
> > -Karl
> >
> >> > uhhh...  it's going close to 5 1/2 hours now!  i need this list to be
> >> > operational today! what's the big deal with reading 1 lines of
> >> email
> >> > addresses. i would have read them by now a few dozen times.
> >> > what's up with add_members?!?
> >> >
> >> >> hi all...
> >> >>
> >> >> i have a mailman version 2.0.13 running on an older box - rh 7.1 and
> >> i
> >> >> had
> >> >> to replace the members of a list. so i removed all. this took about 1
> >> >> 1/2
> >> >> hours to finish and now i'm importing the members back in - they are
> >> >> about
> >> >> 10 000. it has been going on for about 3 hours.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> this is how i executed the command:
> >> >> /add_members -n addss.txt -c n -w n listname
> >> >>
> >> >> why add_members is so slow?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> thanks
> >> >> --
> >> >>
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Re: [Mailman-Users] -1 request(s) waiting?

2005-01-07 Thread Mark Sapiro
David Purdue wrote:
>
>But I am getting a daily reminder from mailman on this machine (mailing 
>list name changed):
>
>=-=-=-=-=
>Subject: -1 [List] moderator request(s) waiting

>
>Why would there be -1 requests waiting, and where can I go to correct this?
>

See
>Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
article 3.38.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] add_members slow, very slow..

2005-01-07 Thread kalin mintchev
thanks Karl..

i think it was the subscribe/unsubscribe option. it was writing to many
emails. now adding is quick

thanks...

> "kalin mintchev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> > "kalin mintchev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> >> 7 hours now and counting... am i the only one on this list?!
>> >
>> > No, I think it just means no on has an answer for you.
>> >
>> > Have you tried putting some debugging prints into the code or
>> > anything?
>>
>> no.. but will it help turning subscribe/unsubscribe notification off?
>> less mail to write to the queue, right?
>> does mailman wait for the mail to be sent to continue deleting or
>> entering
>> addresses from/in the list?!
>>
>> thanks.
>
> I'm sorry, I don't know the answers.
>
> Sometimes when I've needed to debug Mailman, I've found it useful to
> put in custom logging statements.  For example, in
> /usr/lib/mailman/scripts/bounces, I'll put statements like
>
>print >> sys.stderr, _('KFF: reached here: %(listname)s')
>
> Then I watch /var/lib/mailman/logs/bounces, to see which of my
> statements get printed, and with what data.
>
> It helps to know a little Python, but you don't need to know much.
>
> Note the line
>
>LogStdErr('error', 'bounces')
>
> at the top of the script.  The first part says to log standard error,
> the second part says which logfile to use.  Each script has a line
> like this near the top.
>
> Hope this helps you debug,
> -Karl
>
>
>> >
>> > -Karl
>> >
>> >> > uhhh...  it's going close to 5 1/2 hours now!  i need this list to
>> be
>> >> > operational today! what's the big deal with reading 1 lines of
>> >> email
>> >> > addresses. i would have read them by now a few dozen times.
>> >> > what's up with add_members?!?
>> >> >
>> >> >> hi all...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> i have a mailman version 2.0.13 running on an older box - rh 7.1
>> and
>> >> i
>> >> >> had
>> >> >> to replace the members of a list. so i removed all. this took
>> about 1
>> >> >> 1/2
>> >> >> hours to finish and now i'm importing the members back in - they
>> are
>> >> >> about
>> >> >> 10 000. it has been going on for about 3 hours.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> this is how i executed the command:
>> >> >> /add_members -n addss.txt -c n -w n listname
>> >> >>
>> >> >> why add_members is so slow?
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> thanks
>> >> >> --
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>> >> >
>> >> > --
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[Mailman-Users] problems with private list

2005-01-07 Thread Cathy Cramer
I've hosted a private list on MajorDomo for about 5 years. Recently I 
moved to a server that only has MailMan 2.1.5. I am having problems 
restricting non-member posts. I set "Action to take for postings from 
non-members for which no explicit action is defined." to Discard, but 
spam messages have been distributed to the list. Are there other 
configurations that need to be specified in order to prevent this?

Also, the list I host does not allow attachments. How do I restrict all 
attachments?

Thanks in advance,
Cathy Cramer
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[Mailman-Users] how do I read this?

2005-01-07 Thread Dr. Scott S. Jones
At the prompt, I notice this:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/boot# vim /var/mail/scott
You have new mail in /var/mail/scott
I check that mail file and find the following error message:
Traceback (most recent call last):
 File "/usr/lib/mailman/cron/gate_news", line 43, in ?
   from Mailman import mm_cfg
 File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py", line 50, in ?
   DEFAULT_URL   = none
NameError: name 'none' is not defined
My Defaults.py shows that for my debian package, I should have 
DEFAULT_URL = none set just that way? Do I need to add "none" somewhere 
to define it?

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