[Mailman-Users] Mailing list emails just disappear to nowhere

2005-01-08 Thread hannu
Hello all and sorry for the bother :)

A little background to my problem:

I had a main hard disk problem with my web/list server and though I 
had some backups I decided to install a fresh (and newer) 
installation of Linux. Now everything else is working fine except 
Mailman(and/or postfix).

It knows the lists I had built earlier fine, but sending mail to the 
lists doesn't work.

After trying to handle the problem myself, I got until so far:

In /var/log/mail I have a lines for the mail:

Jan  7 14:07:44 rbm postfix/cleanup[4820]: 2534CE585: message-
id=[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jan  7 14:07:44 rbm postfix/smtpd[4802]: disconnect from 
unknown[10.0.1.21]
Jan  7 14:07:44 rbm postfix/qmgr[4799]: 2534CE585: 
from=[EMAIL PROTECTED], size=699, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
Jan  7 14:07:44 rbm postfix/local[4822]: 2534CE585: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED]
toolbox.net, orig_to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], relay=local, 
delay=0, status=sent (delivered to command: 
/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post hn-l)
Jan  7 14:07:44 rbm postfix/qmgr[4799]: 2534CE585: removed

So it would look quite all right . except that the mail doesn't 
appear anywhere. I am quite frustrated so far... any relief 
available?

Otherwise postfix seems to work all right

My postconf-n looks like the follows:

alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases
canonical_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/canonical
command_directory = /usr/sbin
config_directory = /etc/postfix
content_filter = 
daemon_directory = /usr/lib/postfix
debug_peer_level = 2
defer_transports = 
disable_dns_lookups = no
inet_interfaces = all
mail_owner = postfix
mail_spool_directory = /var/mail
mailbox_command = 
mailbox_size_limit = 0
mailbox_transport = 
mailq_path = /usr/bin/mailq
manpage_directory = /usr/share/man
masquerade_classes = envelope_sender, header_sender, header_recipient
masquerade_domains = 
masquerade_exceptions = root
message_size_limit = 1024
mydestination = $myhostname, localhost.$mydomain, list.rbm-
toolbox.net, rbm.rbm-toolbox.net
myhostname = rbm.rbm-toolbox.net
mynetworks = 10.0.1.0/28, 127.0.0.0/8
newaliases_path = /usr/bin/newaliases
queue_directory = /var/spool/postfix
readme_directory = /usr/share/doc/packages/postfix/README_FILES
relayhost = 
relocated_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/relocated
sample_directory = /usr/share/doc/packages/postfix/samples
sender_canonical_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/sender_canonical
sendmail_path = /usr/sbin/sendmail
setgid_group = maildrop
smtp_sasl_auth_enable = no
smtp_use_tls = no
smtpd_client_restrictions = 
smtpd_helo_required = no
smtpd_helo_restrictions = 
smtpd_recipient_restrictions = 
permit_mynetworks,reject_unauth_destination
smtpd_sasl_auth_enable = no
smtpd_sender_restrictions = hash:/etc/postfix/access
smtpd_use_tls = no
strict_rfc821_envelopes = no
transport_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/transport
unknown_local_recipient_reject_code = 450

and aliases 

.
.
. 
mailman:root
mailman-owner:  mailman
#
hn-l:   |/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post hn-l
hn-l-admin: |/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman mailowner hn-l
hn-l-request:   |/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman mailcmd hn-l
hn-l-owner: hn-l-admin

Help me! ;)

best regards,

Hannu Niemi


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[Mailman-Users] Inline HTML and Content Filtering

2005-01-08 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Is it possible to allow inline HTML without setting the content filter to No?
 
We'd like to allow users to send HTML messages in the body of their posts while 
still being able to strip out attachments (e.g., executables).
But the only way I have been able to succesfully allow inline HTML posting is 
by turning off all content filtering.
 
Is there any compromise? Unfortunately, I have not found any answer to this in 
the FAQs or in a few months worth of archives of postings to this list.
 
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailing list emails just disappear to nowhere

2005-01-08 Thread Terry Allen
Hello all and sorry for the bother :)
A little background to my problem:
I had a main hard disk problem with my web/list server and though I
had some backups I decided to install a fresh (and newer)
installation of Linux. Now everything else is working fine except
Mailman(and/or postfix).
It knows the lists I had built earlier fine, but sending mail to the
lists doesn't work.
After trying to handle the problem myself, I got until so far:
In /var/log/mail I have a lines for the mail:
Jan  7 14:07:44 rbm postfix/cleanup[4820]: 2534CE585: message-
id=[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jan  7 14:07:44 rbm postfix/smtpd[4802]: disconnect from
unknown[10.0.1.21]
Jan  7 14:07:44 rbm postfix/qmgr[4799]: 2534CE585:
from=[EMAIL PROTECTED], size=699, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
Jan  7 14:07:44 rbm postfix/local[4822]: 2534CE585: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED]
toolbox.net, orig_to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], relay=local,
delay=0, status=sent (delivered to command:
/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post hn-l)
Jan  7 14:07:44 rbm postfix/qmgr[4799]: 2534CE585: removed
So it would look quite all right . except that the mail doesn't
appear anywhere. I am quite frustrated so far... any relief
available?
Otherwise postfix seems to work all right
Hi again,
	Someone else may correct me here, but that last line of the 
log looks to me like Postfix has delivered the mail to the piped 
mailman command - if the mail is not showing up from there, it would 
indicate that either:

a: Mailman is broken
or
b: Mailman is configured incorrectly.
	Our Mailman installation has a separate aliases file for 
Mailman, which I think is the normal Mailman setup when used with 
Postfix. Maybe post something to the Mailman list for assistance from 
there.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailing list emails just disappear to nowhere

2005-01-08 Thread Mark Sapiro
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

In /var/log/mail I have a lines for the mail:

Jan  7 14:07:44 rbm postfix/cleanup[4820]: 2534CE585: message-
id=[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jan  7 14:07:44 rbm postfix/smtpd[4802]: disconnect from 
unknown[10.0.1.21]
Jan  7 14:07:44 rbm postfix/qmgr[4799]: 2534CE585: 
from=[EMAIL PROTECTED], size=699, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
Jan  7 14:07:44 rbm postfix/local[4822]: 2534CE585: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED]
toolbox.net, orig_to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], relay=local, 
delay=0, status=sent (delivered to command: 
/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post hn-l)
Jan  7 14:07:44 rbm postfix/qmgr[4799]: 2534CE585: removed

So it would look quite all right . except that the mail doesn't 
appear anywhere. I am quite frustrated so far... any relief 
available?


Are the qrunners running?

See
Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
article 3.14, section 5 in particular.

Do the messages get to the qfiles/in directory?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Inline HTML and Content Filtering

2005-01-08 Thread Mark Sapiro
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Is it possible to allow inline HTML without setting the content filter to No?
 
We'd like to allow users to send HTML messages in the body of their posts 
while still being able to strip out attachments (e.g., executables).
But the only way I have been able to succesfully allow inline HTML posting is 
by turning off all content filtering.
 
Is there any compromise? Unfortunately, I have not found any answer to this in 
the FAQs or in a few months worth of archives of postings to this list.

If filter_mime_types is empty and pass_mime_types includes for example

multipart/mixed
multipart/alternative
text/plain
text/html

SOME HTML will go through. The problem is that in
multipart/alternative, only the first remaining part after filtering
is selected. Thus, with the above, a multipart/alternative part with
both text/plain and text/html subparts will result in only the
text/plain part going to the list.

You could remove text/plain from pass_mime_types, but that would
require ALL accepted posts to be HTML. The alternative is to post HTML
only, not multipart/alternative, when you want HTML.

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[Mailman-Users] Traceback errors

2005-01-08 Thread Dr. Jones
Traceback (most recent call last):
 File /usr/lib/mailman/cron/gate_news, line 43, in ?
   from Mailman import mm_cfg
 File /var/lib/mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py, line 50, in ?
   DEFAULT_URL   = none
NameError: name 'none' is not defined
I am unsure how to rectify these errors, or why they are errors? 
Suggestions/

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Re: [Mailman-Users] how do I read this?

2005-01-08 Thread Mark Sapiro
Dr. Scott S. Jones wrote:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/lib/mailman/cron/gate_news, line 43, in ?
from Mailman import mm_cfg
  File /var/lib/mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py, line 50, in ?
DEFAULT_URL   = none
NameError: name 'none' is not defined

My Defaults.py shows that for my debian package, I should have 
DEFAULT_URL = none set just that way? Do I need to add none somewhere 
to define it?

It should be

DEFAULT_URL = None

i.e. None, not none.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Traceback errors

2005-01-08 Thread Mark Sapiro
Dr. Jones wrote:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/lib/mailman/cron/gate_news, line 43, in ?
from Mailman import mm_cfg
  File /var/lib/mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py, line 50, in ?
DEFAULT_URL   = none
NameError: name 'none' is not defined

See my reply at
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2005-January/041765.html
to your other thread on this.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] problems with private list

2005-01-08 Thread Mark Sapiro
Cathy Cramer wrote:

I've hosted a private list on MajorDomo for about 5 years. Recently I 
moved to a server that only has MailMan 2.1.5. I am having problems 
restricting non-member posts. I set Action to take for postings from 
non-members for which no explicit action is defined. to Discard, but 
spam messages have been distributed to the list. Are there other 
configurations that need to be specified in order to prevent this?

What if anything do you have in the *_these_nonmembers settings. A
loose pattern in accept_these_nonmembers could let anything through.

It's hard to say what the problem might be without seeing the full
headers from the spam messages that get through.

Also, the list I host does not allow attachments. How do I restrict all 
attachments?

See for example

http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/msg28726.html

and the two posts at

http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2005-January/041697.html
and
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2005-January/041706.html

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[Mailman-Users] Mailman + Postfix won't work

2005-01-08 Thread Jos Zapata
Hello

I'm currently using Mailman with Sendmail. After investigating a bit, I heard 
using Postfix would be better for performance (I have a 45000+ news list, 
announce only, with one message per day which is 70-90k in size). My server 
came with Postfix preinstalled, so I stopped sendmail and started Postfix. 
After reconfiguring Mailman with the correct user, I tried testing the lists. 
They don't seem to work at all. Every message I send to the list or the list 
owner seem to dissapear. The aliases are correctly set up, and Postfix is 
working fine as far as I can tell. I'm quite the newbie with Postfix and 
Mailman so I don't know what to do to diagnose the problem. Any help would be 
greatly appreciated.

- Jose
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[Mailman-Users] Move archive file to new list

2005-01-08 Thread mytrix
Hi,

I want to move an archive files from old list to new. I have only *.txt and
*.txt.tgz files. I copied it to new location at
/usr/local/mailman/archive/private/listname/* and then I run script arch
listname. It re-created an index file, but the old files were ignore :/
It`s any way, how can I added an old archive files to actual archive?

Txh.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Migrating from one server to another

2005-01-08 Thread Mark Sapiro
Adam Cripps wrote:

Which files will  need to look transport if I leave Suse's standard
install on the target machine? Is there any documentation out there
specifying them?

I'm not aware of any documentation, but at a minimum you need to move
the contents of the lists/ directory and if you want archives, the
contents of the /archives directory.

If the system has no queued messages/tasks and no pending requests,
that's all you need to do. If there are queued messages, you may want
to move some or all of qfiles/. If there are pending requests, you may
want to move pending.pck and the heldmesg-* files from data/

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[Mailman-Users] Re: moderation hold not working

2005-01-08 Thread Alex Young
On Thu, 6 Jan 2005 12:12:04 -0700, Alex Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have a mailman installation that is processing all messages properly
 excepting for held messages.
 
 On any list that I require message moderation for subscribed users,
 the messages go no where.The users also get no reply even though
 Edit member_moderation_notice is populated.
 
 Non-subscriber messages are set to email an admin as well, but that
 also is not working.
 
 Subscriptions that require approval are working as expected with email
 announcements being send to moderators and administrators.
 
 I have looked in /var/log/mailman for errors, but none of the files
 has been recently modified.
 
 I also checked my mail queue and verified that the messages are being
 delivered to mailman.
 

Not to nag, but I still can't figure out whats wrong with the
moderation system on my site.Anyone have any ideas to try?
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: moderation hold not working

2005-01-08 Thread Mark Sapiro
Alex Young wrote:

On Thu, 6 Jan 2005 12:12:04 -0700, Alex Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have a mailman installation that is processing all messages properly
 excepting for held messages.
 
 On any list that I require message moderation for subscribed users,
 the messages go no where.The users also get no reply even though
 Edit member_moderation_notice is populated.
 
 Non-subscriber messages are set to email an admin as well, but that
 also is not working.
 
 Subscriptions that require approval are working as expected with email
 announcements being send to moderators and administrators.
 
 I have looked in /var/log/mailman for errors, but none of the files
 has been recently modified.
 
 I also checked my mail queue and verified that the messages are being
 delivered to mailman.
 

Not to nag, but I still can't figure out whats wrong with the
moderation system on my site.Anyone have any ideas to try?


Evidently, neither can anyone else. Your lists appear to be behaving as
though member_moderation_action and generic_nonmember_action are set
to Discard, but I think/hope you would have checked these before
posting.

You say subscription approvals do go through to owners/moderators.
Moderation and nonmember holds are sent to owners/moderators in
exactly the same way, so presumably things that might affect this such
as the alias for the listname-owner address are all OK.

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