Re: [Mailman-Users] How to transfer Majordomo archive to mailman

2005-02-28 Thread Martin Mewes
Hi Bryan,

no need to send a post to the list _and_ a cc to me as I am reading the 
list :-)

Bryan Blackwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :

> Majordomo doesn't (by default anyway) store its sent messages in an
> mbox.  My archives are essentially a directory with all the digests.
> You can see one of the digests here:
>
> http://www.corvair.org/chapters/test/v02.n4928.txt

As far as I can see you should provide a real mbox where eMails are 
stored with full headers. If you do not have one, you can only re-post 
them to the new mailman-list, but I am unsure about that.

The initial mbox-conversion to HTML can be done with (Mailman version 
2.1.6b3)

[EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/local/mailman/bin: ./arch --help


Rebuild a list's archive.

Use this command to rebuild the archives for a mailing list.  You may 
want to do this if you edit some messages in an archive, or remove some 
messages from an archive.

Usage: ./arch [options]  []

Where options are:
-h / --help
Print this help message and exit.

-q / --quiet
Make the archiver output less verbose.

--wipe
First wipe out the original archive before regenerating.  You
usually want to specify this argument unless you're generating the
archive in chunks.

-s N
--start=N
Start indexing at article N, where article 0 is the first in the
mbox. Defaults to 0.

-e M
--end=M
End indexing at article M.  This script is not very efficient
with respect to memory management, and for large archives, it may not
be possible to index the mbox entirely.  For that reason, you can
specify the start and end article numbers.

Where  is the path to a list's complete mbox archive.  Usually 
this will be some path in the archives/private directory.  For example:

% bin/arch mylist archives/private/mylist.mbox/mylist.mbox

 is optional.  If it is missing, it is calculated.



If this is not easy enough I cannot be of anymore help as I did my 
migration with this one.

bis dahin/kind regards
   
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Re: [Mailman-Users] 2 initial config problems (virtual hosts andpermissions)

2005-02-28 Thread Mark Sapiro
FH wrote:
>
>1) Error: Unknown virtual host: machine
>I was able to create the mailman list via the cli (step 8) w/o any problems. 
>When I try creating a list via the web though I get the above error.  I've
>played around w/ a few combinations of machine machine.domain.tld etc in the
>mm_cfg.py file and the add_virtualhost parameter but I still either get the
>error or I get another page which says something about a "bug" in the program
>(funny thing is even when I get this page the list is created).  
>

This error occurs because the hostname of the URL used to access the
list create web page is not a key (one of the "URL host" entries) in
the VIRTUAL_HOSTS dictionary.


>FWIW as I mentioned the machine is also our mail server, the hostname command
>returns MACHINE (in case that's important).  The DNS name (aka it's not a
>CNAME) of the machine is MACHINE.DOMAIN.TLD (which is also the
>DEFAULT_URL_HOST [set via the configure option]), email though is addressed to
>@DOMAIN.TLD (which is also the DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST [set via the configure
>option]).  As mentioned the error just says "MACHINE" so I've tried things
>like add_defaultdomain ('MACHINE', 'DOMAIN.TLD')

What's this? Do you mean

add_virtualhost('MACHINE', 'DOMAIN.TLD')

which is what you should do to allow 'MACHINE' to be a URL host.


>but that's when I get the
>other "bug" page (apologies I don't have a copy handy but if it's important I
>can probably regenerate it).

If it resulted after adding the above add_virtualhost() in mm_cfg.py, I
don't know why without seeing it.

If you're not actually using virtual hosts, you can set

VIRTUAL_HOST_OVERVIEW = Off

in mm_cfg.py, and it will avoid checks like the one that produces the
above error.

>Also I noticed when I pull up the
>http://machine/mailman/admin page at the bottom is says "Send questions and
>comments to [EMAIL PROTECTED]" that's it not [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Is
>that somehow related?

Here again, the host name part of the URL ('machine' in the case of
http://machine/mailman/admin) is looked up in the VIRTUAL_HOSTS
dictionary and the corresponding email host is used inless there is no
such key in which case just the host name is used.

> What's the appropriate syntax so that MACHINE is an
>"acceptable" virtual host.


add_virtualhost('MACHINE', 'DOMAIN.TLD')


>BTW in case it's related I don't have any virtual hosts set in postfix and
>mydestination = $myhostname, localhost.$mydomain, localhost, $mydomain
>myhostname = MACHINE.DOMAIN.TLD
>mydomain = DOMAIN.TLD
>
>
>
>2) Looking at the maillog file I'm seeing this error occasionally
>
>Feb 28 16:31:31 MACHINE postfix/postalias[1765]: [ID 947731 mail.crit] fatal:
>open /local/home/mailman/data/aliases.dir: Permission denied
>
>Applicable info for this error includes:
>MACHINE# ls -al /local/home/mailman/data/
>total 44
>drwxrwsr-x   2 root mailman  512 Feb 28 16:38 ./
>drwxrwsr-x  20 root mailman  512 Feb 28 16:02 ../
>-rw-r-   1 root mailman   41 Feb 28 16:22 adm.pw
>-rw-rw   1 root mailman 1165 Feb 28 16:38 aliases
>-rw-r-   1 mailman  mailman0 Feb 28 16:38 aliases.dir
>-rw-r-   1 mailman  mailman 1024 Feb 28 16:38 aliases.pag
>
>At one point I did chown aliases* to mailman but it has since reverted.  When
>I originally configured mailman I used the --with-mail-gid=postdrop and I
>didn't specify a username (there is obviously a mailman user ;)).  Although
>the install.txt file recommended using hash my install of postfix has problems
>w/ that so I'm using: 
>alias_maps = dbm:/etc/mail/aliases,dbm:/local/home/mailman/data/aliases
>
>All things postfix are running as the user postfix, all things mailman
>(qrunner is the only continuous process right?) are running as mailman.  I did
>put the postfix "user" in the mailman group (mailman isn't in there though)


The 'mailman' user should definitely be in the 'mailman' group.


>thinking that may help but it didn't seem too.  BTW the apache server is
>mostly running as nobody, there is one instance that ends up as root.  (The
>apache server is brand new too but that install/config seems to have gone ok. 
>Eventually though I want to clear up the 1 root instance and integrate SSL in
>but I figured it was best to get the above issues worked out first ;))
>
>What are the proper owner/permission settings for these files?

Have you tried bin/check_perms?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Moving of the subscribers with their passwords, preferences etc.

2005-02-28 Thread Bryan Blackwell
I just did exactly this, following the procedure at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-developers@python.org/msg03127.html
Worked great.
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On Feb 28, 2005, at 6:38 PM, Andy wrote:
Hi!
Is that possible during moving of the lists to a new server to move 
all users
along with their e-mails, names, passwords and preferences they set, 
so that
they would not need to resubscribe (or that list-owner would not need 
to
subscribe them again, what would unfortunately generate new passwords 
for
them)?
Which files to move in order to do that?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] How to transfer Majordomo archive to mailman

2005-02-28 Thread Bryan Blackwell
I've been looking for an answer to migrating archives as well.  The 
only problem with this procedure is this step:

On Feb 28, 2005, at 4:51 PM, Martin Mewes wrote:
d) Copy the mbox of the majordomo-list to the correct place of the
mailman-mbox
Majordomo doesn't (by default anyway) store its sent messages in an 
mbox.  My archives are essentially a directory with all the digests.  
You can see one of the digests here:

http://www.corvair.org/chapters/test/v02.n4928.txt
I've taken a look at the old digest_arch script, but I don't know 
python at all to figure out how to make it work (I tried a pass on some 
test files, but didn't end up with a useful mbox).  I've also dug 
through the FAQ and the Mailman Users list archive, but I haven't found 
a posted solution.  If someone has made this work and can pass a 
solution or clue, I'd be grateful.  I do know perl and shell scripting 
well enough to adapt someone else's solution, if something like that 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] filtering body content

2005-02-28 Thread Mark Sapiro
List Manager wrote:
>
>I know that it has been asked many many times but I haven't seen any 
>solutions posted about how to filter the body content of the messages. Does 
>someone have a solution for that? Or even a work-around?

I assume you don't mean filtering based on MIME Content-Type: since
that is completely doable with the existing content filtering options.
Rather, I guess you mean filtering based on the actual contents of the
message.

To do this, you can create a custom handler module to do the filtering
and add it to the pipeline. It could be added either to the
GLOBAL_PIPELINE or to a list specific pipline attribute.

There are existing patches/handlers to interface for example with
SpamAssassin. See for example
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq04.023.htp

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Moving of the subscribers with their passwords, preferences etc.

2005-02-28 Thread Mark Sapiro
Andy wrote:
>
>Is that possible during moving of the lists to a new server to move all users
>along with their e-mails, names, passwords and preferences they set, so that
>they would not need to resubscribe (or that list-owner would not need to
>subscribe them again, what would unfortunately generate new passwords for
>them)?
>Which files to move in order to do that?

Move the directories and files in the lists/ directory. At a minimum
all you really need for list settings, members, member options and
passwords is the lists//config.pck (or config.db for pre
2.1.x) file for each list.

You can move a config.* from an older release to a newer release and
Mailman should automatically update it on the new release, but I think
this is only guaranteed for config.pck files. In the case of a
config.db file, there are possible incompatibilities if the Python
versions are different on the source and destination.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Full Personalization CC: field

2005-02-28 Thread Mark Sapiro
Pantejo, Barbara wrote:

>I turned on Full Personalization under the Non-Digestable area, but I
>noticed that the name of the mailing list (i.e. the mailing list
>description) was sent in the CC: field. What should I do to empty the CC:
>field or at least don't send the name of the mailing list in the CC: field?
>

This is done intentionally so that the list address is in a header to
facilitate replies to the list. It is not done if the list is set for
"reply goes to list" as the list address is already in Reply-To: in
this case. Also, beginning with 2.1.6 (or with the patch at
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1117618&group_id=103&atid=300103),
it is not done if the list is "anonymous" as the list address is
already in From: and Reply-To: in that case.

If the list is fully personalized, not anonymous and not "reply goes to
list", the list description and address will be placed in Cc: unless
you change the code in Mailman/Handlers/CookHeaders.py to do otherwise.

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[Mailman-Users] Moving of the subscribers with their passwords, preferences etc.

2005-02-28 Thread Andy
Hi!

Is that possible during moving of the lists to a new server to move all users
along with their e-mails, names, passwords and preferences they set, so that
they would not need to resubscribe (or that list-owner would not need to
subscribe them again, what would unfortunately generate new passwords for
them)?
Which files to move in order to do that?

Regards
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Re: [Mailman-Users] block cc?

2005-02-28 Thread Mark Sapiro
Chuq Von Rospach wrote:
>
>On Feb 28, 2005, at 12:59 PM, Christopher Adams wrote:
>
>> A list owner asked me if a list can be configured so that any message 
>> sent to the list could not have a cc (carbon copy) attached.
>
>that'd be a very bad idea. Look at this message, for instance. It'd 
>block any message sent to the list with reply-to-all.
>
>you'd be blocking stuff based on a standard operation by many mail 
>clients.

I agree with Chuq, but if you really want to do this, you can go to
Privacy options...->Recipient filters and set
require_explicit_destination to Yes and max_num_recipients to 2 and
then any post which is not addressed to the list and only the list
will be held.

Neither this nor anything else you can do will stop Bcc: though.

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[Mailman-Users] 2 initial config problems (virtual hosts and permissions)

2005-02-28 Thread FH
I just started playing around w/ Mailman this morning so I'm VERY new to all
this ;)  The initial config and install seemed to go ok but I have a couple of
questions/problems/issues I'd appreciate some help w/.  I looked around the
FAQ and found info on 1 of them but I can't seem to figure out the right
syntax to fix my problem.

BTW I used the mailman-install.txt file as my guide.  I'm running this on a
Solaris9 machine w/ postfix as the MTA.

1) Error: Unknown virtual host: machine
I was able to create the mailman list via the cli (step 8) w/o any problems. 
When I try creating a list via the web though I get the above error.  I've
played around w/ a few combinations of machine machine.domain.tld etc in the
mm_cfg.py file and the add_virtualhost parameter but I still either get the
error or I get another page which says something about a "bug" in the program
(funny thing is even when I get this page the list is created).  

FWIW as I mentioned the machine is also our mail server, the hostname command
returns MACHINE (in case that's important).  The DNS name (aka it's not a
CNAME) of the machine is MACHINE.DOMAIN.TLD (which is also the
DEFAULT_URL_HOST [set via the configure option]), email though is addressed to
@DOMAIN.TLD (which is also the DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST [set via the configure
option]).  As mentioned the error just says "MACHINE" so I've tried things
like add_defaultdomain ('MACHINE', 'DOMAIN.TLD') but that's when I get the
other "bug" page (apologies I don't have a copy handy but if it's important I
can probably regenerate it).  Also I noticed when I pull up the
http://machine/mailman/admin page at the bottom is says "Send questions and
comments to [EMAIL PROTECTED]" that's it not [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Is
that somehow related?  What's the appropriate syntax so that MACHINE is an
"acceptable" virtual host.

BTW in case it's related I don't have any virtual hosts set in postfix and
mydestination = $myhostname, localhost.$mydomain, localhost, $mydomain
myhostname = MACHINE.DOMAIN.TLD
mydomain = DOMAIN.TLD



2) Looking at the maillog file I'm seeing this error occasionally

Feb 28 16:31:31 MACHINE postfix/postalias[1765]: [ID 947731 mail.crit] fatal:
open /local/home/mailman/data/aliases.dir: Permission denied

Applicable info for this error includes:
MACHINE# ls -al /local/home/mailman/data/
total 44
drwxrwsr-x   2 root mailman  512 Feb 28 16:38 ./
drwxrwsr-x  20 root mailman  512 Feb 28 16:02 ../
-rw-r-   1 root mailman   41 Feb 28 16:22 adm.pw
-rw-rw   1 root mailman 1165 Feb 28 16:38 aliases
-rw-r-   1 mailman  mailman0 Feb 28 16:38 aliases.dir
-rw-r-   1 mailman  mailman 1024 Feb 28 16:38 aliases.pag

At one point I did chown aliases* to mailman but it has since reverted.  When
I originally configured mailman I used the --with-mail-gid=postdrop and I
didn't specify a username (there is obviously a mailman user ;)).  Although
the install.txt file recommended using hash my install of postfix has problems
w/ that so I'm using: 
alias_maps = dbm:/etc/mail/aliases,dbm:/local/home/mailman/data/aliases

All things postfix are running as the user postfix, all things mailman
(qrunner is the only continuous process right?) are running as mailman.  I did
put the postfix "user" in the mailman group (mailman isn't in there though)
thinking that may help but it didn't seem too.  BTW the apache server is
mostly running as nobody, there is one instance that ends up as root.  (The
apache server is brand new too but that install/config seems to have gone ok. 
Eventually though I want to clear up the 1 root instance and integrate SSL in
but I figured it was best to get the above issues worked out first ;))

What are the proper owner/permission settings for these files?


Thanks for the hints/clues/suggestions.


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[Mailman-Users] filtering body content

2005-02-28 Thread List Manager
Hello everyone,
I know that it has been asked many many times but I haven't seen any 
solutions posted about how to filter the body content of the messages. Does 
someone have a solution for that? Or even a work-around?

Best wishes,
Rae
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[Mailman-Users] Full Personalization CC: field

2005-02-28 Thread Pantejo, Barbara FTL
I turned on Full Personalization under the Non-Digestable area, but I
noticed that the name of the mailing list (i.e. the mailing list
description) was sent in the CC: field. What should I do to empty the CC:
field or at least don't send the name of the mailing list in the CC: field?

Thanks for any assistance,
Barbara
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Re: [Mailman-Users] How to transfer Majordomo archive to mailman

2005-02-28 Thread Martin Mewes
Hi,

trishan de Lanerolle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :
[...]
> majordomo. We configured it and set it up on new server. My question
> is are there instructions or scripts available to transfer majordomo
> archives and subscription lists over to mailman.

When I did the move from majordomo to mailman I did it manually for each 
list (10).

a) Send a message to the old majordomo-list that during the next minutes 
the mailinglist-software will change and posts to the llist will bounce 
between ... and ... aprox.

b) Stop majordomo (delete the /etc/aliases-entry)

c) Set up and configure the new mailinglist in mailman, 
edit /etc/aliases but set a # in front of the aliases for now.

c) Mass subscribe the majordomo-members in mailman with notifiers to the 
people.

d) Copy the mbox of the majordomo-list to the correct place of the 
mailman-mbox

e) Rebuilt the HTML-Archive with "arch"
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq04.009.htp
More help is available with arch --help on the commandline.

f) Edit the /etc/aliases and take away the # infront of the 
mailman-aliases.

g) Send a post to the new mailman-list.

Done ...

bis dahin/kind regards

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Re: [Mailman-Users] block cc?

2005-02-28 Thread Chuq Von Rospach
On Feb 28, 2005, at 12:59 PM, Christopher Adams wrote:
A list owner asked me if a list can be configured so that any message 
sent to the list could not have a cc (carbon copy) attached.
that'd be a very bad idea. Look at this message, for instance. It'd 
block any message sent to the list with reply-to-all.

you'd be blocking stuff based on a standard operation by many mail 
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[Mailman-Users] block cc?

2005-02-28 Thread Christopher Adams
A list owner asked me if a list can be configured so that any message 
sent to the list could not have a cc (carbon copy) attached. I said I 
didn't think so and I see that reply headers, though somewhat 
configurable in Mailman, is not something to mess with.

Anyone ever deal with this. I guess that some other mailing list 
software can do this.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Automated bounce removal

2005-02-28 Thread Gerald
On Mon, 28 Feb 2005, Chance Eppinette wrote:
I am new to this list, but have been a long-term Mailman user.  My current
Mailman version is 2.0.11
I'm pretty sure some bugs related to the bounce runner were fixed in the
2.1 series. (From google searches.) None indicate this one specifically
though.
We have a list of over 13000 members.  I have the bounce options set to
remove & notify the administrator when excessive bounces occur for a
subscribed member.
However, the system is not removing the subscribers after the minimum
bounces of 2 occur.
Do you still get the notification or is nothing happening related to the
bounces?
Gerald
ULM graduate '99.
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[Mailman-Users] How to transfer Majordomo archive to mailman

2005-02-28 Thread trishan de Lanerolle
Hi,
I am new to mailman and recently took over the mailing lists
administration at my college. The system administrator and I installed
and configured mailman to replace the currently used majordomo. We
configured it and set it up on new server. My question is are there
instructions or scripts available to transfer majordomo archives and
subscription lists over to mailman.
Mailman is version 2.1.5-6 running on Debian Linux 2.4.26-1-k7.
Thank you
Trishan

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[Mailman-Users] Automated bounce removal

2005-02-28 Thread Chance Eppinette
Hello,

I am new to this list, but have been a long-term Mailman user.  My current
Mailman version is 2.0.11

We have a list of over 13000 members.  I have the bounce options set to
remove & notify the administrator when excessive bounces occur for a
subscribed member.
However, the system is not removing the subscribers after the minimum
bounces of 2 occur.

Has anyone encountered this issue and should it be fixed in newer versions?

Thanks,

Chance Eppinette
Technology Support Manager
ULM Computing Center
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318-342-5021 (phone)
318-342-5018 (fax)

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Populating member name in Mass Subscription

2005-02-28 Thread Mark Sapiro
Pantejo, Barbara wrote:

>I noticed in the Member Management->Membership List section that a member
>name can be associated with the member address. Can I populate the member
>name using an uploaded file in the Mass Subscription? In other words, in the
>upload file can I place the member name after the member address, with a
>space between the email addres and the name? 

See the FAQ
>Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Article 3.44

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[Mailman-Users] Populating member name in Mass Subscription

2005-02-28 Thread Pantejo, Barbara FTL
I noticed in the Member Management->Membership List section that a member
name can be associated with the member address. Can I populate the member
name using an uploaded file in the Mass Subscription? In other words, in the
upload file can I place the member name after the member address, with a
space between the email addres and the name? 

For example, in the upload file it would look like this:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tom Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bob Jones
[EMAIL PROTECTED] William Bell

If this cannot be done, how can I populate the member names along with the
member addresses in a Mass Subscription method?

I appreciate any feedback,
Barbara 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman bug

2005-02-28 Thread Mark Ballard
Thanks Mark,
That fixed it, at least temporarily. I did have to change the name with  
mv before I removed it.

Mark Ballard
Site Technology Specialist
El Molino High School
http://www.elmolino.org
On Feb 27, 2005, at 10:28 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
Mark Ballard wrote:
Mailman has been working fine for a couple of week now and it just
stopped with a bug.
Below is what it tells me when I go to admindb on any list.
any ideas???
Bug in Mailman version 2.1.2

  File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 487, in __save
os.unlink(fname_last)
OSError: [Errno 22] Invalid argument:
'/private/var/mailman/lists/bulletin/config.pck.last'
This problem seems to occur with varying frequency in Mac OSX. See
http://www.google.com/search? 
q=site%3Amail.python.org+%22errno+22%22+config.pck.last

The immediate solution is to manually remove the offending
config.pck.last file - one person reported he had to rename it with
"mv" before he could remove it.
No one seems to know what the underlying cause or permanent solution  
is.

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Re: [Mailman-docs] Re: [Mailman-Users] How to get Sender Id from the Mailing List where the annoymous option is set

2005-02-28 Thread Jon Carnes
On Thu, 2005-02-17 at 16:23, Brad Knowles wrote:
> At 3:57 AM -0800 2005-02-08, vijayan p wrote:
> 
> >  Can anyone tell me how to obtain the statistics of
> >  which member has posted how many messages.
> 
>   I think you'd have to look at the incoming messages in the MTA 
> logs, before they get handed off to Mailman.  But keep in mind that 
> Mailman does not have any facility for creating or monitoring 
> statistics, unless you want to create a script to do that.
> 

It's also recorded in Mailman's logs (the "post" log).

> >  Also is there a way to know who has posted a
> >  particular mail.

Yes. look at the post log.

Here is a stats script which does some of what you asked. I wrote it
about 3 years ago...

[EMAIL PROTECTED] Useful_scripts]$ more mm_stats
#! /bin/bash
# Run monthly stats on Meeting maker logs
#  - top 10 users of each list
#  - Number of attempted posts (per list)
#  - Total bytes sent (per list)
# written by Jon Carnes, last modified on Sept 26, 2002
#
# Mailman's log file to be examined for stats
#POST=/home/mailman/logs/post
#
# Run this script the first of the month right after the
#  the log files have been rotated.  The log file for the
#  previous month will then be post.1
POST=/var/log/mailman/post.1
  
# create temp file to collect stats
TMPFILE=`mktemp /tmp/mm_stats.XX` || exit 1
  
LIST="`/var/mailman/bin/list_lists |awk '{print $1}' |sed -n '2,$p'`"
for i in $LIST
do
  echo "Stats from local Mailman list: $i" > $TMPFILE
  echo " "  >> $TMPFILE
  echo -n "   Starting:  " >> $TMPFILE
  head -1 $POST |cut -f1-3 "-d " >> $TMPFILE
  echo -n "   Ending:" >> $TMPFILE
  tail -1 $POST |cut -f1-3 "-d " >> $TMPFILE
  echo " ===" >> $TMPFILE
  echo -n "Total posts to the list: " >> $TMPFILE
  grep -i "post to $i " $POST |wc -l >> $TMPFILE
  echo -n "Total SUCCESSFUL posts to the list: " >> $TMPFILE
  grep -i "post to $i " $POST |grep success |wc -l >> $TMPFILE
  SIZ=`grep -i "post to $i" $POST |grep success |cut -f2 -d= |cut -f1
-d,`

  k=0; for j in $SIZ; do k=$(( j + k )); done
  echo "  Total bytes" = $k >> $TMPFILE
  echo " "  >> $TMPFILE
  echo "Top 10 posters to the list:" >> $TMPFILE
  grep -i "post to $i " $POST |cut -f 10 "-d " |sort |uniq -c \
 |sort -bgr |head -10 >> $TMPFILE
  echo " " >> $TMPFILE
  # Mail collected stats off to the list admin and cc the mailman user
  mail -s "Mailman Stats for List: $i" -c mailman $i-admin <$TMPFILE

done
  
# remove the temp file
rm $TMPFILE

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