[Mailman-Users] Help

[Adam Rubin]

Hello, I am looking to set up mailman for my website, but I am a technical 
novice and was wondering if there are any walkthroughs available for the 
amateur site builder. I had a look at the documentation posted on your site 
and it seemed to be beyond the scope of my understanding.

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[Mailman-Users] question

[Craig Dalton]

Can members of the list email to the entire list or can only the administrator 
(or someone with admin username and password)  send out emails to the whole 
list.  I dont want to be tied down to having a single person only able to send 
to the list.  And can we ensure that only members can send to the list to 
decrease spam? thanks, Craig.
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[Mailman-Users] Using Mailman's Mailling List

[Tommy De Notarpietro]

Hi,
I've bought a domainname and it's using Mailman. I just wanted to make a 
'Maling List' where people can subscribe or unsubscribe. This mailing 
list should be used to send them announcements. I've configured it, so 
at the last line you can see "Mail list run by my-emailadress at 
my-domain.com". When I use this address to notify all list members ( so 
I send to mymailinglist @ mydomain.com ), they don't receive it. Do you 
know what could be the problem or am I doing something wrong.

I'm looking forward to hearing from you,
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Re: [Mailman-Users] LDAP integration (& passwords)

[James McCrea]

Hi,

I perhaps am bundling too much up here.

Can anybody tell me there are any plans to integrate the (functionality
of the) 3rd party plugins that deal with LDAP functionality with the main
mailman distribution?

James

On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 04:27:46PM +0100, James McCrea wrote:
> Hi list,
> 
> I'm going to be deploying mailman in place of majordomo soon, but just
> have some questions that i've not been able to find answers for thus
> far...
> 
> We have an institution wide LDAP service which will increasingly contain
> information that we would use for building lists from. This would include
> both lists created dynamically from the ldap info at mail-time, and also
> those created (perhaps via a script) that check for an attribute at some
> given point and build a list.
> 
> In addition to the above we use the LDAP servers for authentication for
> services such as mail, and the passwords stored here are in sync with
> those on our Active Directory setup.
> 
> It is *very* desireable to be able to allow users to authenticate for
> mailing list purposes by using their existing password that is used for
> all other services (mail, webmail, logging on, restricted site access
> etc)
> I know that some of this functionality is available via 3rd party
> plugins, but I'm wondering if this will be integrated with the mail
> mailman stream in the future, as i'd look silly working to merge things
> and then finding that! ;)
> 
> Obviously monthly reminders etc are inappropriate in this setup, we
> wouldn't want the passwords being pushed about in plain text. But i'm happy
> that's not a major problem and can be sorted whenever.
> 
> Any pointers or info about the mailman roadmap much appreciated, as are
> comments from people (esp educational institutions) running in a similar
> fashion.
> 
> Cheers
> James McCrea
> Computing Officer
> University of Kent
> 
> 
> NB, just in case it helps, here's our background:
> We have approx 2000 lists, most of which are less than a hundred addressses
> and change relatively frequently (~annually) and the others which are
> just a few lists with many users (up to a few thousand addresses)
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Authentication required?

[Brad Knowles]

At 11:09 PM -0700 2005-04-07, Lynn Siprelle wrote:
 Exim logs tell me only this:
 2005-04-07 22:54:38 H=sccrmhc14.comcast.net [204.127.202.59]
 F=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> rejected RCPT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
 authentication required
 It was working fine until about 36 hours ago.
	It sounds like your ISP changed their configuration so as to 
require authentication for outgoing mail.  Or the remote MTA is 
misconfigured so that it thinks you should have to authenticate 
before it will accept your message.

	Either way, this appears to be a problem you need to discuss with 
them, and you'd be much more likely to get useful guidance in the 
future if you discussed these issues on a mailing list that is 
dedicated to supporting Exim.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] LDAP integration (& passwords)

[Brad Knowles]

At 10:07 AM +0100 2005-04-08, James McCrea wrote:
 Can anybody tell me there are any plans to integrate the (functionality
 of the) 3rd party plugins that deal with LDAP functionality with the main
 mailman distribution?
It's called "Mailman3".
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[Mailman-Users] Invitation Expiration

[chardlist]

How can I have the invitations Mailman sends expire in 5 days instead of 3?

-Brendan


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[Mailman-Users] virtual hosting question

[Rick Pasotto]

I run debian linux with exim3 and mailman 2.1.5. My machine has a
primary name of 'niof.net' and I also have several virtual hosts with
their own mailing lists on the same machine.

The mm_cfg.py file has 'VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear()' and all the appropriate
add_virtualhost() lines.

Mail to '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' works. 'virtual-host.com' is set as the
'host name this list prefers'. The link to
 works but the links at
the bottom of that page (to the admin interface, other lists) use
niof.net as the host.

I can access the admindb pages with either host name.

How can I get *all* the pages to refer to the virtual host *only*?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Authentication required?

[Lynn Siprelle]

	It sounds like your ISP changed their configuration so as to require 
authentication for outgoing mail.  Or the remote MTA is misconfigured 
so that it thinks you should have to authenticate before it will 
accept your message.

	Either way, this appears to be a problem you need to discuss with 
them, and you'd be much more likely to get useful guidance in the 
future if you discussed these issues on a mailing list that is 
dedicated to supporting Exim.
Being new to Exim and not understanding whether this was a Mailman 
issue or a mail server issue, I thank you. Could have done without the 
dollop of snark, but that's the internet.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Invitation Expiration

[Mark Sapiro]

chardlist wrote:

>How can I have the invitations Mailman sends expire in 5 days instead of 3?
>

You can put

PENDING_REQUEST_LIFE = days(5)

in mm_cfg.py to set it globally for the installation. I don't think it
can be set with any finer granularity (e.g., per list or per
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Re: [Mailman-Users] virtual hosting question

[Mark Sapiro]

Rick Pasotto wrote:

>I run debian linux with exim3 and mailman 2.1.5. My machine has a
>primary name of 'niof.net' and I also have several virtual hosts with
>their own mailing lists on the same machine.
>
>The mm_cfg.py file has 'VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear()' and all the appropriate
>add_virtualhost() lines.
>
>Mail to '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' works. 'virtual-host.com' is set as the
>'host name this list prefers'. The link to
> works but the links at
>the bottom of that page (to the admin interface, other lists) use
>niof.net as the host.
>
>I can access the admindb pages with either host name.
>
>How can I get *all* the pages to refer to the virtual host *only*?



Have you run fix_url since you last set up the VIRTUAL_HOSTS dictionary
in mm_cfg.py?

Run bin/fix_url.py for instructions.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Using Mailman's Mailling List

[Mark Sapiro]

Tommy De Notarpietro wrote:
>
>I've bought a domainname and it's using Mailman. I just wanted to make a 
>'Maling List' where people can subscribe or unsubscribe. This mailing 
>list should be used to send them announcements. I've configured it, so 
>at the last line you can see "Mail list run by my-emailadress at 
>my-domain.com". When I use this address to notify all list members ( so 
>I send to mymailinglist @ mydomain.com ), they don't receive it. Do you 
>know what could be the problem or am I doing something wrong.
>

I can't tell from the above if you're sending your post to the "list
run by" address or the actual "listname" address. It is the "listname"
address you should be posting to.

See the FAQ
>Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py

Article 3.11 for information on setting up announcement only lists

Article 3.14 for troubleshooting

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Help

[Mark Sapiro]

Adam Rubin wrote:

>Hello, I am looking to set up mailman for my website, but I am a technical 
>novice and was wondering if there are any walkthroughs available for the 
>amateur site builder. I had a look at the documentation posted on your site 
>and it seemed to be beyond the scope of my understanding.

The installation manual at
http://www.list.org/mailman-install/index.html is pretty much the best
we've got. If this is too technical, I don't think we can help you.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] question

[Mark Sapiro]

Craig Dalton wrote:

>Can members of the list email to the entire list or can only the administrator 
>(or someone with admin username and password)  send out emails to the whole 
>list.

Lists can be set up either way or something in between.

>I dont want to be tied down to having a single person only able to send to the 
>list.

No problem. All unmoderated members can post without further approval.

>And can we ensure that only members can send to the list to decrease spam?

Yes, this is the normal default, although you can allow specific
non-members (by reg exp match on e-mail address) or all non-members to
post if you want to.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] brainstorming sending options (approval ofmoderated messages)

[Mark Sapiro]

Christopher Adams wrote:

>I have a script that monthly removes the members of a list and then updates it 
>from another file. 
>The default for all members is 'moderated',including the only person who will 
>send messages,  so as 
>to prevent spammers from spoofing list owners email and sending to the 40,000 
>member list.


If you're not using bin/sync_members in your script, you might want to
consider it.


>I just need to clarify a couple of things about posting to lists. My tests 
>show that if a subscriber 
>is moderated and also is listed as a non-member who has permission to post, a 
>post from that person 
>is considered a post from a moderated member.
>
>So, assuming the above, the only way to allow this person to post without 
>having to go through the 
>approval process would be to send a message with the  Approved: password as 
>the first line.
>
>Could someone verify that this is correct? Are there any other configuration 
>options that would make 
>this work without the sender having to intervene or send the Approved:password 
>line?
>

I won't guarantee that there's no way, but as long as you don't change
the pipeline, I believe that there are no configurations that would
allow a moderated member to post without an Approved: header/line
without going through moderation.

Of course, if there are unmoderated members or non-members allowed to
post, the moderated member could spoof one of these other addresses
and post that way, but you seem to have that covered.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Authentication required?

[Brad Knowles]

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 Could have done without the dollop of snark, but that's the internet.
	I wasn't being snarky.  I was being honest -- there are a few 
Exim-knowledgeable people on this list, but most of them are over on 
the mailing lists devoted to supporting Exim.

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[Mailman-Users] gid/uid problem?

[larryt]

Sorry to bother everybody with this...  I'm new to the list and have
searched the archives, though not exhaustively.  

Membership management thru cgi silently fails-- both mass subscriptons
and individual check-box actions like unsubscribe this member.  Adding
memebers from command line works fine, and general options thru cgi
work fine.  Mailman is configured with (standard) uid/gid mailman
mailman, cgi-group nobody, mail-group postfix.  Seems like a command
doesn't have permission to use a necessary resource, but I can't see
what.  What am I missing?  I know its something dumb, but...

thanks,
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Re: [Mailman-Users] gid/uid problem?

[Mark Sapiro]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>Membership management thru cgi silently fails-- both mass subscriptons
>and individual check-box actions like unsubscribe this member.

How about other checkbox actions like moderate or digest?

>Adding
>memebers from command line works fine, and general options thru cgi
>work fine.

What about other admin pages like Digest Options, Non-digest options,
Privacy options ..., etc.

>Mailman is configured with (standard) uid/gid mailman
>mailman, cgi-group nobody, mail-group postfix.  Seems like a command
>doesn't have permission to use a necessary resource, but I can't see
>what.  What am I missing?  I know its something dumb, but...

Have you tried bin/check_perms? Have you looked at all the Mailman
logs, in particular 'error' and 'subscribe'?

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[Mailman-Users] "notification of pending moderator requests" question

[larryt]

Thanks to Mark Sapiro, cgi is now mostly working after installing a
stable Python (2.4.1).  On the Membership management page, only the
"moderation bit" toggle at the bottom appears to remain
non-functional.

Speaking of moderation, when the   are set to "Require approval" (or "Confirm and approve"), how
can I have the list moderator (or administrator) be sent an immediate
notification like the  "notifices of subscribes and
unsubscribes"?  The "Require approval" admin works fine, but the list
moderator currently has to check periodically for waiting subscription
requests.

thanks,
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