[Mailman-Users] Re: unicode() error causing shunt (SOLVED)

[John Swartzentruber]

On 4/29/2005 5:54 PM John Swartzentruber wrote:
I'm running 2.1.6rc2. For the first time yesterday, I started getting 
cron errors and messages getting shunted. The cron errors and the 
shunting errors appear to be the same. When I run bin/unshunt, the 
following shows up in my error log:

Apr 29 17:44:04 2005 (30197) SHUNTING: 
1114627404.7106659+9a129579e22b7a7876567eea456d5c78552c286f
Apr 29 17:44:04 2005 (30197) Uncaught runner exception: unicode() 
argument 2 must be string, not None
Apr 29 17:44:04 2005 (30197) Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 111, in 
_oneloop
self._onefile(msg, msgdata)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 167, in 
_onefile
keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line 130, 
in _dispose
more = self._dopipeline(mlist, msg, msgdata, pipeline)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line 153, 
in _dopipeline
sys.modules[modname].process(mlist, msg, msgdata)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 92, in 
process
send_digests(mlist, mboxfp)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 133, in 
send_digests
send_i18n_digests(mlist, mboxfp)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 315, in 
send_i18n_digests
msg = scrubber(mlist, msg)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Scrubber.py", line 349, in 
process
partcharset = part.get_content_charset()
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Message.py", line 204, in 
get_content_charset
unicode('x', charset)
TypeError: unicode() argument 2 must be string, not None

Apr 29 17:44:04 2005 (30197) SHUNTING: 
1114767622.905226+1a0d1f1ee1d75fba10ef000cfb04f6aba24ec9ae

I assume the bottom TypeError is the significant part.
I found about four similar reports when I searched the archives, but 
didn't find any solutions. Actually I did find a reply from Barry for 
one of them, but it was from 2003 and said to wait for version 2.1.3.

Is this likely a bug in 2.1.6rc2, or is there something I can fix on my 
end?
Apparently it was a bug in 2.1.6rc2. I'm not sure whether my report 
triggered a very fast fix, or if I should have waited another day before 
reporting. In any case 2.1.6rc3 seems to have resolved the problem. 
Thanks guys!

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Re: [Mailman-Users] mass subscription Mailman question

[Brad Knowles]

At 4:49 PM -0700 2005-04-29, Mark Sapiro wrote:
 Brad Knowles wrote:
 This is now in the FAQ at 
. 

 And it was in the FAQ before at
 http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq03.044.htp
	Blargh.  Sorry, my bad.  I assumed that since people weren't 
referring to a FAQ entry, that it wasn't there.  I thought I knew all 
the FAQ entries and didn't even bother to do a search before I added 
the new one.

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[Mailman-Users] Newbie Questions

[Jason Williard]

I just finished installing Mailman 2.1.5 with Postfix 2.2 on my system.  It
appears to be almost working with just a few issues that I'm hoping I could
get some help resolving.  

 

1) I created the lists while working under http://lists.pcsafe.net/mailman/.
However, I would like to have them under http://lists.pcsafe.com/mailman/.
When I go to the listinfo or admin the lists don't show up when I go to the
.com.  Is there any way to fix this without recreating the lists under the
.com interface?  Below are the important lines from mm_cfg.py:

 

  MTA = 'Postfix'

  add_virtualhost('lists.pcsafe.net', 'lists.pcsafe.com')

  add_virtualhost('list.pcsafe.com', 'lists.pcsafe.com')

  add_virtualhost('list.pcsafe.net', 'lists.pcsafe.com')

  POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = ['lists.pcsafe.com', 'lists.pcsafe.net',
'list.pcsafe.com', 'list.pcsafe.net']

  SMTPHOST = 'mx.pcsafe.net'

 

 

2) When sending any messages to the lists, I get the following error.  

 

  The Postfix program

 

  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (expanded from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>):

maildir delivery failed: create

/usr/local/mailman/qfiles/maildir/tmp/1114820818.P3390.vs01: Permission
denied

 

I have Postfix configured to deliver to Maildir/ and have added the
following 2 lines to mm_cfg.py:

 

  USE_MAILDIR = Yes

  QRUNNERS.append(('MaildirRunner', 1))

 

Does anyone know what is wrong here?  I have tried changing the permissions
on /usr/local/mailman/qfiles/maildir to 02760 and added the user postfix to
the mailman group.  I also tried changing the ownership of the entire
maildir folder to postfix:mailman, but this is offering the same result.

 

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Re: [Mailman-Users] mass subscription Mailman question

[Mark Sapiro]

Brad Knowles wrote:
This is now in the FAQ at 
. 
And it was in the FAQ before at
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[Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.6 release candidate 3

[Barry Warsaw]

Release candidate 3 for Mailman 2.1.6 is now available.  This fixes a
late-breaking problem with RFC 2231 encoded headers containing bogus or
non-existent charsets.  Specifically, this release includes an updated
version of the email package (2.5.6).

Please try this version out as much as possible.  Hopefully Tokio and I
will get a 2.1.6 final out in about two weeks.

-Barry

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Admin interface page problem

[Mark Sapiro]

Geoff Russell wrote:
I'm using mailman 2.1.4 on a Linux box (Mandrake). I have a problem
when visiting the "Tend to pending moderator requests" link.
See Message below.
I've tried reloading the config.pck in the lists/listname directory
but the problem keeps happening. All the other links work.
It's not config.pck. It's request.db.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] listinfo sometimes not displaying public lists?

[Mark Sapiro]

RT wrote:
I've just installed Mailman and I have one public list. The list is 
normally *not* visible in mailman/info, although sometimes it is 
visible. However, it *is* visible at mailman/admin. The strange thing is 
that I can (occasionally) make it visible in mailman/listinfo by doing 
something unrelated (just logging in or logging out, possibly) in the 
admin pages, but I'm not quite sure what.
The thing that makes it appear or not is whether or not the 'host name' 
in the accessing URL matches the url_host name of the list (normally 
DEFAULT_URL_HOST if you're not using virtual hosts).

If you aren't using virtual hosts, set
VIRTUAL_HOST_OVERVIEW = No
in mm_cfg.py and restart Mailman. Then you'll see all public lists on 
the server regardless of the accessing URL.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Changing Contact Mailing Address

[Mark Sapiro]

Staven Bruce wrote:
After I commented out the mailman:postmaster and mailman-owner:mailman
entries from my aliases file and left 
the aliases that pipe into /var/mailman/mail/mailman, I regenerated the
aliases file and then restarted the sendmail service. However, even after
all that, any mail sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] was not sent to me and
seemed to disappear. 
I think what you are missing here is that [EMAIL PROTECTED] is a list 
just like any other. If you want arbitrary people to be able to send to 
you via that list, you have to set that list so the default action for 
non member posts is Accept and you have to be a subscriber (member) of 
that list with delivery enabled.

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[Mailman-Users] archives skipping multipart/alternative

[Dan D Niles]

One of my lists recieved a message that was multipart/mixed, with
the first part being multipart/alternative.  So it was something like
this:

multipart/mixed
 |
 +-> multipart/alternative
 ||
 |+-> text/plain  (actual message in plain text)
 |+-> text/html   (actual message in html)
 |
 +-> text/plain (a signature)

When it is archived, it shows:

Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-- next part 
--

followed by the signature text.

How do I get the archiver to expand the multipart/alternative part?

Thanks,

Dan

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[Mailman-Users] unicode() error causing shunt

[John Swartzentruber]

I'm running 2.1.6rc2. For the first time yesterday, I started getting 
cron errors and messages getting shunted. The cron errors and the 
shunting errors appear to be the same. When I run bin/unshunt, the 
following shows up in my error log:

Apr 29 17:44:04 2005 (30197) SHUNTING: 
1114627404.7106659+9a129579e22b7a7876567eea456d5c78552c286f
Apr 29 17:44:04 2005 (30197) Uncaught runner exception: unicode() argument 2 
must be string, not None
Apr 29 17:44:04 2005 (30197) Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 111, in _oneloop
self._onefile(msg, msgdata)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 167, in _onefile
keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line 130, in 
_dispose
more = self._dopipeline(mlist, msg, msgdata, pipeline)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line 153, in 
_dopipeline
sys.modules[modname].process(mlist, msg, msgdata)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 92, in process
send_digests(mlist, mboxfp)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 133, in 
send_digests
send_i18n_digests(mlist, mboxfp)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 315, in 
send_i18n_digests
msg = scrubber(mlist, msg)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Scrubber.py", line 349, in process
partcharset = part.get_content_charset()
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Message.py", line 204, in get_content_charset
unicode('x', charset)
TypeError: unicode() argument 2 must be string, not None
Apr 29 17:44:04 2005 (30197) SHUNTING: 1114767622.905226+1a0d1f1ee1d75fba10ef000cfb04f6aba24ec9ae

I assume the bottom TypeError is the significant part.
I found about four similar reports when I searched the archives, but 
didn't find any solutions. Actually I did find a reply from Barry for 
one of them, but it was from 2003 and said to wait for version 2.1.3.

Is this likely a bug in 2.1.6rc2, or is there something I can fix on my end?
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Sendmail: using aliases

[Brad Knowles]

At 11:53 AM -0400 2005-04-29, Randall Perry wrote:
 If I remember right (gee, it's only been a week since I got Mailman
 re-installed
 on this box after a disk crash, and I'm already forgetting things), you need
 to
 set the set-guid bit for the CGIs...
 They're all set correctly. Think I read somewhere that set-guid doesn't 
work
 properly on BSD, which Mac OSXS is based on.
	MacOS X 10.3.9 has turned off all setuid (that's SETUID, not 
SETGID) shell scripts, but if you know the magic incantation you can 
turn them back on.  However, Python is not a shell script, so this 
isn't a problem for us.

	So far as I know, setgid works just fine on MacOS X, at least for 
non-shell scripts.  Of course, Mailman uses setuid and not setgid, so 
this wouldn't be a problem for us anyway.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Sendmail: using aliases

[Sythos]

On Fri, Apr 29, 2005 at 11:53:18AM -0400, Randall Perry wrote:
> They're all set correctly. Think I read somewhere that set-guid doesn't work
> properly on BSD, which Mac OSXS is based on.

OSX need some additional attention

> Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Sendmail: using aliases

[Randall Perry]

> If I remember right (gee, it's only been a week since I got Mailman
> re-installed
> on this box after a disk crash, and I'm already forgetting things), you need
> to
> set the set-guid bit for the CGIs...
> 
They're all set correctly. Think I read somewhere that set-guid doesn't work
properly on BSD, which Mac OSXS is based on.




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Re: [Mailman-Users] Limitting age of held messages.

[Matt Ruzicka]

Ah, that is good to hear for the long run.

In the short term I'm guessing I can't just delete the messages from data/
without negative side effects from not adjusting the request.pck?

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> On Apr 29, 2005, at 07:02, Matt Ruzicka wrote:
>
> > At the end of that FAQ there is mention of a third party patch that
> > allows
> > you to specify how many days to hold pending messages and to
> > automatically
> > discard when they expires.
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> Mailman 2.1.6 (currently at the "release candidate 2" stage) implements
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Sendmail: using aliases

[Randall Perry]

> Hmmm... didn't Mailman mail you a list of commands to add to your alias
> file?
> I don't know anything about Mac OS, but here is what I typically get from
> Mailman when I create a new list:
> 
> franklin:  "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post franklin"
> franklin-admin:"|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman admin franklin"
> franklin-bounces:  "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman bounces franklin"
> franklin-confirm:  "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman confirm franklin"
> franklin-join: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman join franklin"
> franklin-leave:"|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman leave franklin"
> franklin-owner:"|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman owner franklin"
> franklin-request:  "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman request franklin"
> franklin-subscribe:"|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe franklin"
> franklin-unsubscribe:  "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe
> franklin"

Thanks everyone for the quick response. In addition to adding the aliases
above I had to create forwarding entries for each address in virtusertable,
i.e.:

virtusertable
-
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   franklin

aliases
---
franklin:  "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post franklin"


Now I'm getting the error:
Apr 29 10:04:45 localhost Mailman mail-wrapper: Group mismatch error.
Mailman expected the mail wrapper script to be executed as group "mailman",
but the system's mail server executed the mail script as group "daemon".
Try tweaking the mail server to run the script as group "mailman", or re-run
configure,  providing the command line option `--with-mail-gid=daemon'.

So, I guess I have to re-run configure?
 


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[Mailman-Users] Sendmail: using aliases

[Randall Perry]

I have Mailman installed ok on Mac OS 10.3. The web interface works fine,
admin emails work fine, but the documentation on creating aliases to receive
list email via sendmail seems to be missing.

If I have a list called [EMAIL PROTECTED] how do I get it to mailman from
sendmail. Do I send the mail to the app via aliases like so:

virtusertable entry:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mylist

aliases entry:
mylist: "/usr/adm/sm.bin/mailman"

Tried that, but got the error:
localhost Mailman mail-wrapper: Usage: ./mailman program [args...]

Any help is appreciated with this.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] help

[Brad Knowles]

At 3:23 PM +0900 2005-04-29, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
 If it looks useful, please improve and endorse.  If not, I'm sure that
 the implementors would appreciate a brief review to that effect!
	In terms of looking at the mail queue, you'd only be able to look 
at the Mailman side of the mail queue.

	Since Mailman will work with a variety of MTAs and not all of 
them will use the same interface to allow you to look at this 
information (or provide any interface at all to allow you to look at 
this information), your visibility into the MTA queues is going to be 
nonexistent.

But web access to the logs and the mail queues is a good idea.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Admin interface page problem

[Brad Knowles]

At 5:22 PM +0930 2005-04-29, Geoff Russell wrote:
 File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/ListAdmin.py", line 82, in __opendb
self.__db = marshal.load(fp)
 MemoryError
This might be a corrupted database.  Try running checkdb.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Installation problem: 500 internal server error

[Brad Knowles]

At 11:28 AM +0100 2005-04-28, RT wrote:
 Problem 1: my 'ISP', for want of a better word, enables suEXEC on Apache,
Ouch.
 and I obviously can't change that (aside: doesn't everyone run
 Apache/suEXEC?
No.
If not, why?
	In large part, because that's not what is shipped by default by 
most vendors.

  And surely most mailman users are in the
 same situation that I'm in - I don't have a real internet connection,
 and I rely on someone else's virtual server, on which I don't get a
 root password?)
	Actually, that's a pretty rare configuration, based on what I've 
seen in the past.  Had it been more common, others would have run 
into this problem before, the documentation would have been 
corrected, and you would not have had these problems yourself.

 But *none* of this is in the installation instructions, unless I've
 missed something.
	Nope, it's not in the documentation.  Your problem with suEXEC is 
only the second time I've ever heard this feature mentioned, and you 
may be the first person I've heard of that has resolved the issues 
and documented them to this degree.

And, this isn't my day job, and I'm worried that
 this isn't secure. Is it a good idea to run mailman's scripts with
 Apache's permissions?
Dunno.  Not sure that anyone else has ever tried to do this with 
Mailman.
 How does everyone else manage to install this?
	With suEXEC in your kind of configuration?  I don't know that 
anyone else has ever managed to do that.

 Would someone mind
 updating INSTALL?
	If you can give us suitable instructions to include (preferably 
as a patch to the INSTALL document), we should be able to get that 
updated before 2.1.6-RELEASE is cut.

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[Mailman-Users] Admin interface page problem

[Geoff Russell]

Hi Mailpeople,

I'm using mailman 2.1.4 on a Linux box (Mandrake). I have a problem
when visiting the "Tend to pending moderator requests" link.

See Message below.

I've tried reloading the config.pck in the lists/listname directory
but the problem keeps happening. All the other links work.

Cheers,
Geoff Russell.


- Message ---
We're sorry, we hit a bug!

If you would like to help us identify the problem, please email a copy
of this page to the webmaster for this site with a description of what
happened. Thanks!
Traceback:

Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/local/mailman/scripts/driver", line 87, in run_main
main()
File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admindb.py", line 166, in main
if not mlist.NumRequestsPending():
File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/ListAdmin.py", line 147,
in NumRequestsPending
self.__opendb()
File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/ListAdmin.py", line 82, in __opendb
self.__db = marshal.load(fp)
MemoryError






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