Re: [Mailman-Users] help

[Stephen J. Turnbull]

> "Brad" == Brad Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Thanks for your comments!

Brad>   Since Mailman will work with a variety of MTAs and not
Brad> all of them will use the same interface to allow you to look
Brad> at this information (or provide any interface at all to
Brad> allow you to look at this information), your visibility into
Brad> the MTA queues is going to be nonexistent.

I know; but there's nothing we can really do about that for people who
don't have special privileges.  That's one of the main things I had in
mind when I suggested a mini-FAQ on the proposed "troubleshooting" page.

I'll submit a change to the RFE to emphasize that.

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[Mailman-Users] Need original html code for public pages

[#NG SWEE TECK (S8133672E)#]

After I've made some changes, the whole page doesn't seem to work anymore.
http://mail.pslemath.com/mailman/listinfo/newsletter_pslemath.com

I would like to have the original html code for the general information page so 
that I could start all over again.

Thanks in advance.

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[Mailman-Users] new to mime filters

[Jarrel Pertschuk]

Hey there trying to learn how to filter attachments with a list of 
extensions. I'd like to write a filter that will scan for all items 
like .exe, .dll  and a long list of things of that sort and delete 
them. Not sure how to do this. Can anyone help with this basic 
question?

Thanks,
-Jay
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[Mailman-Users] Strange "permission denied" cron messages

[Rasmus Resen Amossen]

I have installed mailman-2.1.5 (from source on a debian) but keep getting
the below error messages from cron. The jobs are scheduled in the crontab
for the "mailman" user.

check_perms reports "no problems found"

I can run the scripts just fine, without getting any error output, if I do
it manually as the mailman user from the shell:
   /usr/bin/python -S /usr/local/mailman-2.1.5/cron/checkdbs

Also, as the mailman user, I have no problems with creating/writing to the
files and dirs that apparently have wrong permissions (according to the
cron mail).

How can I get rid of these annoying error messages?


Cron mails: --

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/mailman-2.1.5/cron/checkdbs", line 178, in ?
main()
  File "/usr/local/mailman-2.1.5/cron/checkdbs", line 98, in main
mlist.Save()
  File "/usr/local/mailman-2.1.5/Mailman/MailList.py", line 528, in Save
self.SaveRequestsDb()
  File "/usr/local/mailman-2.1.5/Mailman/ListAdmin.py", line 121, in
SaveRequestsDb
self.__closedb()
  File "/usr/local/mailman-2.1.5/Mailman/ListAdmin.py", line 98, in __closedb
fp = open(tmpfile, 'w')
IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied:
'/usr/local/mailman-2.1.5/lists/mailman/request.pck.tmp'

--

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/mailman-2.1.5/cron/senddigests", line 94, in ?
main()
  File "/usr/local/mailman-2.1.5/cron/senddigests", line 87, in main
mlist.Save()
  File "/usr/local/mailman-2.1.5/Mailman/MailList.py", line 525, in Save
self.__save(dict)
  File "/usr/local/mailman-2.1.5/Mailman/MailList.py", line 480, in __save
fp = open(fname_tmp, 'w')
IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied:
'/usr/local/mailman-2.1.5/lists/mailman/config.pck.tmp.debian.27406'

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[Mailman-Users] User Manual

[Susan Green]

Do you have a user manual for this software?  Thanks!
 
Susan D. Green
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Re: [Mailman-Users] User Manual

[Brad Knowles]

At 3:28 PM -0400 2005-04-29, Susan Green wrote:
 Do you have a user manual for this software?  Thanks!
	What documentation exists for Mailman can be found at 
 or linked from that page.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] new to mime filters

[Brad Knowles]

At 3:53 PM -0700 2005-04-29, Jarrel Pertschuk wrote:
 Hey there trying to learn how to filter attachments with a list of
 extensions. I'd like to write a filter that will scan for all items
 like .exe, .dll  and a long list of things of that sort and delete
 them. Not sure how to do this. Can anyone help with this basic question?
	The problem is that these sorts of things could be presented in 
any number of ways, and may or may not correspond to given MIME 
bodypart types, etc  You're better off selecting the things that 
you know to be safe and allowing them through and then rejecting or 
stripping everything else.

	That's easily done by going into the "Content Filtering" page of 
the web admin interface for your mailing list, turning on the radio 
button at the top of that page (with the description "Should Mailman 
filter the content of list traffic according  to the settings 
below?"), and then making sure that the first multi-line field is 
empty, and the second multi-line field has the MIME bodypart types 
you know to be safe.

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[Mailman-Users] Sendmail integration, mail not being processed?

[Iain Dooley]

hi, i've just installed mailman and mm-handler on a FreeBSD machine with uname:
FreeBSD kingfish.scoastnet.com.au 5.2.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE #0: Thu 
Jan 27 22:44:45 EST 2005 [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/NEWKERNEL  i386
i am able to create and maintain lists, but get no response (not even an error) 
when i send mail to a list.
i followed the process for sendmail integration described in the mm-handler 
howto. when i call 'make' from /etc/mail/ i get the following errors:
cp freebsd.mc kingfish.scoastnet.com.au.mc
/usr/bin/m4 -D_CF_DIR_=/usr/share/sendmail/cf/   /usr/share/sendmail/cf/m4/cf.m4 
kingfish.scoastnet.com.au.mc > kingfish.scoastnet.com.au.cf
*** ERROR: FEATURE() should be before MAILER()
*** ERROR: FEATURE() should be before MAILER()
*** ERROR: FEATURE() should be before MAILER()
cp freebsd.submit.mc kingfish.scoastnet.com.au.submit.mc
/usr/bin/m4 -D_CF_DIR_=/usr/share/sendmail/cf/   /usr/share/sendmail/cf/m4/cf.m4 
kingfish.scoastnet.com.au.submit.mc > kingfish.scoastnet.com.au.submit.cf
i am able to subscribe users through the web interface, and get the 
confirmation emails. i can use the confirmation http link, but if i respond to 
the confirmation email then i do not get the 'welcome' message.
once subscribed, i do not get emails back when i send to the list. i do not get 
any error emails, i just receive no emails in response when i send to my 
mailing list. the following are some messages from /var/log/messages:
May  1 03:10:00 kingfish cron[67069]: _secure_path: cannot stat 
none/.login_conf: Permission denied
May  1 03:15:00 kingfish cron[68044]: _secure_path: cannot stat 
none/.login_conf: Permission denied
May  1 03:20:00 kingfish cron[69809]: _secure_path: cannot stat 
none/.login_conf: Permission denied
May  1 03:25:00 kingfish cron[71715]: _secure_path: cannot stat 
none/.login_conf: Permission denied
May  1 03:27:00 kingfish cron[72191]: _secure_path: cannot stat 
none/.login_conf: Permission denied
May  1 03:30:00 kingfish cron[72599]: _secure_path: cannot stat 
none/.login_conf: Permission denied
May  1 03:35:00 kingfish cron[74371]: _secure_path: cannot stat 
none/.login_conf: Permission denied
there are no error messages in /usr/local/mailman/logs/error. my virtusers 
table looks like this:
[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]
my mailertable looks like this:
lists.scoastnet.com.au  mailman:lists.scoastnet.com.au
i have included the following in mm_cfg.py:
DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'lists.scoastnet.com.au'
DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'lists.scoastnet.com.au'
add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST)
the url lists.scoastnet.com.au resolves to the same IP address as 
kingfish.scoastnet.com.au
there is this line in mm-handler:
$SENDMAIL = "/usr/lib/sendmail -oem -oi";
there is no file called /usr/lib/sendmail on my machine. there is a binary for 
sendmail called:
/usr/sbin/sendmail
i tried changing the $SENDMAIL line above to:
$SENDMAIL = "/usr/sbin/sendmail -oem -oi";
but still no results. is there anything else i can provide to help someone 
diagnose my problem? i'm pretty lost...
cheers
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[Mailman-Users] Bounce processing

[Doc Schneider]

I've looked through the FAQs and can't find anything about what I need 
for a list I run.

Can Mailman, when it gets a bounce, send the bounce to the listowner and 
not process it? Alls I can find is the option to turn off (and discard) 
bounce processing.

I've got a list that is sent out monthly and need to track bounces to 
remove members who do bounce.

Is what I need possible with Mailman or should I stick to what I'm using 
(ecartis) for this monthly list?

TIA,
-Doc
ps. I can hack python pretty good, so hacking the code is no big deal. 
Just need a pointer to where to start looking.
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[Mailman-Users] Announce only?

[Dale Rose]

Is it possible to make a mailman list announce only?

I've got the list reply-to address set to a specific, non-list address
but if the end user chooses to reply to all, the list address gets
included as well.  We try to keep all subscribers set to moderated,
but inevitably one or two will get through.

Can the list be set so that only messages from specified addresses get
posted, regardless of moderated status?

Many thanks,

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[Mailman-Users] User Unknown Error (was Sendmail integration, mail not being processed?)

[Iain Dooley]

hello, i have fixed some problems with my sendmail.cf file, and have got sendmail running correctly and it is (apparently) handing off tasks to mailman. 

i can now see that i am getting 'user unknown' error messages (ie. bounces) 
when i send to my lists:
- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   (reason: 550 5.1.1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... User unknown)
  - Transcript of session follows -
... while talking to lists.scoastnet.com.au.:
DATA
<<< 550 5.1.1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... User unknown
550 5.1.1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... User unknown
<<< 503 5.0.0 Need RCPT (recipient)
i have created lists through both the command line and web interfaces. i 
can log in and subscribe users to the off-the-grid list on the web, and have 
received subscription confirmation emails afterwards.
some similar 'user unknown' errors in the mailman-users archives suggest that 
this is a problem with aliases, but my impression was that when you use 
mm-handler with sendmail, you no longer need to worry about aliases. my 
mailertable looks like this:
lists.scoastnet.com.au  mailman:lists.scoastnet.com.au
my mailer definition looks like this:
Mmailman,   P=/etc/mail/mm-handler, F=rDFMhlqSu, U=mailman:mailnull,
   S=EnvFromL, R=EnvToL/HdrToL,
   A=mm-handler $h $u
i have removed the ALIAS_FILE feature from my sendmail.mc file (becuase in 
mailman.mc example from David Champion, he comments the ALIAS_FILE feature 
saying that you can keep old aliases for back compatibility, but i have no 
reason for this so i have not kept it in there).
i would really appreciate any help you can offer.
cheers
iain
Iain Dooley wrote:
hi, i've just installed mailman and mm-handler on a FreeBSD machine with 
uname:

FreeBSD kingfish.scoastnet.com.au 5.2.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE 
#0: Thu Jan 27 22:44:45 EST 2005 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/NEWKERNEL  i386

i am able to create and maintain lists, but get no response (not even an 
error) when i send mail to a list.

i followed the process for sendmail integration described in the 
mm-handler howto. when i call 'make' from /etc/mail/ i get the following 
errors:

cp freebsd.mc kingfish.scoastnet.com.au.mc
/usr/bin/m4 -D_CF_DIR_=/usr/share/sendmail/cf/   
/usr/share/sendmail/cf/m4/cf.m4 kingfish.scoastnet.com.au.mc > 
kingfish.scoastnet.com.au.cf
*** ERROR: FEATURE() should be before MAILER()

*** ERROR: FEATURE() should be before MAILER()
*** ERROR: FEATURE() should be before MAILER()
cp freebsd.submit.mc kingfish.scoastnet.com.au.submit.mc
/usr/bin/m4 -D_CF_DIR_=/usr/share/sendmail/cf/   
/usr/share/sendmail/cf/m4/cf.m4 kingfish.scoastnet.com.au.submit.mc > 
kingfish.scoastnet.com.au.submit.cf

i am able to subscribe users through the web interface, and get the 
confirmation emails. i can use the confirmation http link, but if i 
respond to the confirmation email then i do not get the 'welcome' message.

once subscribed, i do not get emails back when i send to the list. i do 
not get any error emails, i just receive no emails in response when i 
send to my mailing list. the following are some messages from 
/var/log/messages:

May  1 03:10:00 kingfish cron[67069]: _secure_path: cannot stat 
none/.login_conf: Permission denied
May  1 03:15:00 kingfish cron[68044]: _secure_path: cannot stat 
none/.login_conf: Permission denied
May  1 03:20:00 kingfish cron[69809]: _secure_path: cannot stat 
none/.login_conf: Permission denied
May  1 03:25:00 kingfish cron[71715]: _secure_path: cannot stat 
none/.login_conf: Permission denied
May  1 03:27:00 kingfish cron[72191]: _secure_path: cannot stat 
none/.login_conf: Permission denied
May  1 03:30:00 kingfish cron[72599]: _secure_path: cannot stat 
none/.login_conf: Permission denied
May  1 03:35:00 kingfish cron[74371]: _secure_path: cannot stat 
none/.login_conf: Permission denied

there are no error messages in /usr/local/mailman/logs/error. my 
virtusers table looks like this:

[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]
my mailertable looks like this:
lists.scoastnet.com.au  mailman:lists.scoastnet.com.au
i have included the following in mm_cfg.py:
DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'lists.scoastnet.com.au'
DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'lists.scoastnet.com.au'
add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST)
the url lists.scoastnet.com.au resolves to the same IP address as 
kingfish.scoastnet.com.au

there is this line in mm-handler:
$SENDMAIL = "/usr/lib/sendmail -oem -oi";
there is no file called /usr/lib/sendmail on my machine. there is a 
binary for sendmail called:

/usr/sbin/sendmail
i tried changing the $SENDMAIL line above to:
$SENDMAIL = "/usr/sbin/sendmail -oem -oi";
but still no results. is there anything else i can provide to help 
someone diagnose my problem? i'm pretty lost...

cheers
iain
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