Re: [Mailman-Users] Customizing Rejection notice with 2.1.6?

[David Gibbs]

Mark Sapiro wrote:
> The message only applies to posts automatically rejected for
> reject_these_nonmembers match and generic_nonmember_action reject.

Darn it ... I misunderstood that.

Back to 2.1.5 I guess.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Customizing Rejection notice with 2.1.6?

[Mark Sapiro]

David Gibbs wrote:

>I just upgraded to 2.1.6 and tried to customize the non-member rejection
>notice by editing the 'nonmember_rejection_notice' value.
>
>However, when a non-member posts and I reject it, the old "Non-members
>are not allowed to post messages to this list." message is being sent.

The message only applies to posts automatically rejected for
reject_these_nonmembers match and generic_nonmember_action reject.

Posts rejected through the admindb interface still get the reject
message primed with the generic 'Non-members are not allowed to post
messages to this list.' message. You can change this through the
admindb interface when you reject the message, but it requires you to
type or paste the reject message each time.

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[Mailman-Users] Customizing Rejection notice with 2.1.6?

[David Gibbs]

I just upgraded to 2.1.6 and tried to customize the non-member rejection
notice by editing the 'nonmember_rejection_notice' value.

However, when a non-member posts and I reject it, the old "Non-members
are not allowed to post messages to this list." message is being sent.

Is there something I missed?

Thanks!

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Re: [Mailman-Users] First-time poster...

[Bill Landry]

- Original Message - 
From: "John Dennis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> On Mon, 2005-06-06 at 13:00 -0700, Bill Landry wrote:
>
> O.K. the other things I suggested you check all seem fine.
>
>> > Is mailman in /etc/shadow on the machine
>> > postfix is running on?
>>
>> grep mailman /etc/shadow
>> mailman:!!:12327::
>
> Actually /etc/passwd maybe more relevant in this instance. If postfix
> does not have permission to read /etc/passwd it's look up is going to
> fail (a non-readable /etc/group may also provoke this). Recall that
> postfix typically does not run as root for very good reasons. What
> postfix runs as is configurable. You want to make sure whatever user
> postfix is running as has permission to read these /etc files. Also
> typically /etc/passwd and /etc/group are readable by everybody. The only
> other thing I can think of for you to check is to assure /etc/passwd
> and /etc/group are readable by the postfix process.
>
> Short of that the only other things I can think of would be to strace
> (assuming you're on a system with strace, e.g. Linux) the postfix
> process and seeing where the failure occurs and/or to look at the
> postfix code that performs the lookup and see exactly what c lib
> functions it's calling and what triggers it to return a failure.

This appears to be the standard across all of my RedHat 9/Postfix and Fedora 
Core3/Postfix servers:

ls -l /etc/passwd
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 2172 Jun  6 09:16 /etc/passwd
ls -l /etc/group
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 974 Jun  6 13:34 /etc/group

My other Postfix servers are function properly, and they all run as 
"mail_owner = postfix", including this particular Mailman server, so I am 
still a bit baffled by this one.

Bill 

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Re: [Mailman-Users] First-time poster...

[John Dennis]

On Mon, 2005-06-06 at 13:00 -0700, Bill Landry wrote:

O.K. the other things I suggested you check all seem fine.

> > Is mailman in /etc/shadow on the machine
> > postfix is running on?
> 
> grep mailman /etc/shadow
> mailman:!!:12327::

Actually /etc/passwd maybe more relevant in this instance. If postfix
does not have permission to read /etc/passwd it's look up is going to
fail (a non-readable /etc/group may also provoke this). Recall that
postfix typically does not run as root for very good reasons. What
postfix runs as is configurable. You want to make sure whatever user
postfix is running as has permission to read these /etc files. Also
typically /etc/passwd and /etc/group are readable by everybody. The only
other thing I can think of for you to check is to assure /etc/passwd
and /etc/group are readable by the postfix process.

Short of that the only other things I can think of would be to strace
(assuming you're on a system with strace, e.g. Linux) the postfix
process and seeing where the failure occurs and/or to look at the
postfix code that performs the lookup and see exactly what c lib
functions it's calling and what triggers it to return a failure.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] First-time poster...

[Bill Landry]

- Original Message - 
From: "John Dennis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> On Mon, 2005-06-06 at 12:48 -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote:
>> And did that say anything about a group mismatch error? Or is there
>> anything in Mailman's 'error' log?
>>
>> If you're getting group mismatch errors, see FAQ article 6.16
>
> FWIW, I don't think this problem will manifest itself as a mailman group
> mismatch error, but I could be wrong.
>
> Thinking about this a bit more I suspect Bill may have modified the
> user/group on the alias file and/or modified the mailman account
> information while postfix was running, but did not restart postfix. I
> haven't looked at the postfix code but I wouldn't be surprised if
> postfix when it starts gets file information on all its input files
> referenced in main.cf and stores that information. If that information
> was altered while postfix was running it would likely get confused
> because it may be using id's that no longer exist.

John, I've tried to make sure that I either reload or restart Postfix and 
Mailman after each config or file permissions change.  Thanks for the help 
guys, it is very much appreciated.  I've posted the issue to the Postfix 
list, so if I can find a resolution there, I will post it back here.  If you 
can think of anything else I should look at, please let me know.

Thanks again!

Bill 

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Uncaught runner exception

[Mark Sapiro]

Salada, Duncan S.wrote:

>I have a problem with one of my lists.  I have 4 lists, and 3 seem to be 
>working fine.  The fourth one worked fine for the first couple of weeks, but 
>then started having problems.  No changes were made to the configuration 
>during that time.  The problem is this: mail will not go out to any of the 
>users.
>
>This list was configured to have only one recipient and allow anyone to post 
>to it (sort of a spam catcher).  I've checked everything in the most 
>applicable FAQ 
>(http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq03.014.htp).  In 
>the error log, I keep getting "Uncaught runner exception: len() of unsized 
>object" (the full log entry with Traceback is at the bottom of the email).
>
>I am running Mailman 2.1.4 installed from source on Solaris 6 with sendmail.
>
>Any help, information, suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
>
> ERROR LOG =
>Jun 06 15:10:09 2005 (27089) Uncaught runner exception: len() of unsized object
>Jun 06 15:10:09 2005 (27089) Traceback (most recent call last):
>  File "/usr/local/mailman-2.1.4/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 110, in 
> _oneloop
>self._onefile(msg, msgdata)
>  File "/usr/local/mailman-2.1.4/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 160, in 
> _onefile
>keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata)
>  File "/usr/local/mailman-2.1.4/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line 130, 
> in _dispose
>more = self._dopipeline(mlist, msg, msgdata, pipeline)
>  File "/usr/local/mailman-2.1.4/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line 153, 
> in _dopipeline
>sys.modules[modname].process(mlist, msg, msgdata)
>  File "/usr/local/mailman-2.1.4/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 91, in 
> process
>send_digests(mlist, mboxfp)
>  File "/usr/local/mailman-2.1.4/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 132, in 
> send_digests
>send_i18n_digests(mlist, mboxfp)
>  File "/usr/local/mailman-2.1.4/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 306, in 
> send_i18n_digests
>msg = scrubber(mlist, msg)
>  File "/usr/local/mailman-2.1.4/Mailman/Handlers/Scrubber.py", line 262, in 
> process
>size = len(payload)
>TypeError: len() of unsized object
>
>Jun 06 15:10:09 2005 (27089) SHUNTING: 
>1118084879.080544+37fc5a2467c00ef900e9933a77c481ec4aa67de3
> END ERROR LOG =


The error is because of a badly formed mime multipart message. The
Mailman 2.1.6 version of Scrubber.py contains the following insert
before the 'size = len(payload)'.


  # XXX Under email 2.5, it is possible that payload will be None.
  # This can happen when you have a Content-Type: multipart/* with
  # only one part and that part has two blank lines between the
  # first boundary and the end boundary.  In email 3.0 you end up
  # with a string in the payload.  I think in this case it's safe to
  # ignore the part.
  if payload is None:
  continue
  size = len(payload)

The reference to email 2.5 is the Python library email module.

These errors put the message in the shunt queue (qfiles/shunt/).
Presumably the message or some residue of it is still elsewhere,
probably in lists//digest.mbox, causing this error to occur
for each new message.

You could install the above code in Scrubber.py. If so, be careful -
the above isn't indented the right amount and indentation counts.

Otherwise, you could try to identify the bad message in the shunt queue
and delete it and also edit digests.mbox to remove it from there too.
Then you can probably run bin/unshunt and be OK, or if you just want
to get things started again without worrying about lost messages, you
can just remove the digests.mbox and delete the messages from the
shunt queue.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] First-time poster...

[John Dennis]

On Mon, 2005-06-06 at 12:48 -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote:
> And did that say anything about a group mismatch error? Or is there
> anything in Mailman's 'error' log?
> 
> If you're getting group mismatch errors, see FAQ article 6.16

FWIW, I don't think this problem will manifest itself as a mailman group
mismatch error, but I could be wrong.

Thinking about this a bit more I suspect Bill may have modified the
user/group on the alias file and/or modified the mailman account
information while postfix was running, but did not restart postfix. I
haven't looked at the postfix code but I wouldn't be surprised if
postfix when it starts gets file information on all its input files
referenced in main.cf and stores that information. If that information
was altered while postfix was running it would likely get confused
because it may be using id's that no longer exist.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] First-time poster...

[Bill Landry]

- Original Message - 
From: "John Dennis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> On Mon, 2005-06-06 at 11:46 -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote:
>> Bill Landry wrote:
>> >
>> >Jun  6 10:52:07 lists postfix/local[20108]: warning: cannot find alias 
>> >database owner for hash:/usr/local/mailman/data/aliases(0,34100)
> 
>> In any case, this appears to be a postfix configuration issue. A google
>> search for "cannot find alias database owner" turns up two links to a
>> postfix module alias.c, the relevant piece of which is:
> 
> I don't think this is a postfix configuration issue, but rather a
> problem with user lookup's. What the code in question is doing is
> getting the user id (uid) of the owner of of the alias file and then
> mapping it to an account. For some reason that's failing. On the machine
> that postfix is running on you should verify the mailman account exists.
> (what does the command "id mailman" return?).

id mailman
uid=41(mailman) gid=41(mailman) groups=41(mailman)

> Are you running postfix
> and mailman on the same machine.

Yes.

> Do you have any of the files on an NFS mount?

No.

 > It seems very odd that ls -l prints out mailman as the owner but
> postfix can't perform the same lookup. Are you running a NSCD (Name
> Service Cache Daemon)?

No.

> If so, maybe the cache isn't refreshed. Have you
> tried restarting postfix?

Yes, many times.

> Is mailman in /etc/shadow on the machine
> postfix is running on?

grep mailman /etc/shadow
mailman:!!:12327::

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Re: [Mailman-Users] First-time poster...

[Mark Sapiro]

Bill Landry wrote:

>- Original Message - 
>From: "Mark Sapiro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>> What happens if you leave the ownership as root:mailman in spite of
>> check_perms?
>
>Then I get the following in the maillog:
>
>Jun  6 12:22:45 lists postfix/local[20474]: 711426FE2C: 
>to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, relay=local, delay=1, 
>status=bounced (Command died with status 1: "/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman 
>post curtistest")
>
>and I get back an undeliverable message.

And did that say anything about a group mismatch error? Or is there
anything in Mailman's 'error' log?

If you're getting group mismatch errors, see FAQ article 6.16

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>> Have you followed the Postfix setup instructions at for example
>> http://mailman.sourceforge.net/mailman-install/node12.html (mirrors at
>> http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-install/node12.html and
>> http://www.list.org/mailman-install/node12.html
>
>Yes.
>
>> In any case, this appears to be a postfix configuration issue. A google
>> search for "cannot find alias database owner" turns up two links to a
>> postfix module alias.c, the relevant piece of which is:
>>
>> /*
>>  * DELIVERY RIGHTS
>
>Not sure what to do with this code snippet.


Nor I. I only mentioned it because the comment seems to indicate that
if the aliases.db (and aliases) is owned by mailman, postfix has to be
told something about what "rights" to give mailman.


>If you have any further advice 
>based on the "Command died with status 1" I receive when setting the 
>aliases.db perms to root:mailman, please let me know.  Otherwise, I will 
>post this to the Postfix list to see what they have to say.


As above, I think setting the owner of the aliases to root allowed
postfix to pipe the message to the mailman wrapper which then died.
What usually causes this is the "group mismatch error".

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Re: [Mailman-Users] First-time poster...

[John Dennis]

On Mon, 2005-06-06 at 11:46 -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote:
> Bill Landry wrote:
> >
> >Jun  6 10:52:07 lists postfix/local[20108]: warning: cannot find alias 
> >database owner for hash:/usr/local/mailman/data/aliases(0,34100)

> In any case, this appears to be a postfix configuration issue. A google
> search for "cannot find alias database owner" turns up two links to a
> postfix module alias.c, the relevant piece of which is:

I don't think this is a postfix configuration issue, but rather a
problem with user lookup's. What the code in question is doing is
getting the user id (uid) of the owner of of the alias file and then
mapping it to an account. For some reason that's failing. On the machine
that postfix is running on you should verify the mailman account exists.
(what does the command "id mailman" return?). Are you running postfix
and mailman on the same machine. Do you have any of the files on an NFS
mount? It seems very odd that ls -l prints out mailman as the owner but
postfix can't perform the same lookup. Are you running a NSCD (Name
Service Cache Daemon)? If so, maybe the cache isn't refreshed. Have you
tried restarting postfix? Is mailman in /etc/shadow on the machine
postfix is running on?
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Re: [Mailman-Users] First-time poster...

[Bill Landry]

- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Sapiro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> What happens if you leave the ownership as root:mailman in spite of
> check_perms?

Then I get the following in the maillog:

Jun  6 12:22:45 lists postfix/local[20474]: 711426FE2C: 
to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, relay=local, delay=1, 
status=bounced (Command died with status 1: "/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman 
post curtistest")

and I get back an undeliverable message.

> Have you followed the Postfix setup instructions at for example
> http://mailman.sourceforge.net/mailman-install/node12.html (mirrors at
> http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-install/node12.html and
> http://www.list.org/mailman-install/node12.html

Yes.

> In any case, this appears to be a postfix configuration issue. A google
> search for "cannot find alias database owner" turns up two links to a
> postfix module alias.c, the relevant piece of which is:
>
> /*
>  * DELIVERY RIGHTS

Not sure what to do with this code snippet.  If you have any further advice 
based on the "Command died with status 1" I receive when setting the 
aliases.db perms to root:mailman, please let me know.  Otherwise, I will 
post this to the Postfix list to see what they have to say.

Thanks for your comments and suggestions!

Bill 

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[Mailman-Users] Uncaught runner exception

[Salada, Duncan S.]

I have a problem with one of my lists.  I have 4 lists, and 3 seem to be 
working fine.  The fourth one worked fine for the first couple of weeks, but 
then started having problems.  No changes were made to the configuration during 
that time.  The problem is this: mail will not go out to any of the users.

This list was configured to have only one recipient and allow anyone to post to 
it (sort of a spam catcher).  I've checked everything in the most applicable 
FAQ (http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq03.014.htp).  In 
the error log, I keep getting "Uncaught runner exception: len() of unsized 
object" (the full log entry with Traceback is at the bottom of the email).

I am running Mailman 2.1.4 installed from source on Solaris 6 with sendmail.

Any help, information, suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

 ERROR LOG =
Jun 06 15:10:09 2005 (27089) Uncaught runner exception: len() of unsized object
Jun 06 15:10:09 2005 (27089) Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/mailman-2.1.4/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 110, in _oneloop
self._onefile(msg, msgdata)
  File "/usr/local/mailman-2.1.4/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 160, in _onefile
keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata)
  File "/usr/local/mailman-2.1.4/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line 130, in 
_dispose
more = self._dopipeline(mlist, msg, msgdata, pipeline)
  File "/usr/local/mailman-2.1.4/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line 153, in 
_dopipeline
sys.modules[modname].process(mlist, msg, msgdata)
  File "/usr/local/mailman-2.1.4/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 91, in 
process
send_digests(mlist, mboxfp)
  File "/usr/local/mailman-2.1.4/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 132, in 
send_digests
send_i18n_digests(mlist, mboxfp)
  File "/usr/local/mailman-2.1.4/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 306, in 
send_i18n_digests
msg = scrubber(mlist, msg)
  File "/usr/local/mailman-2.1.4/Mailman/Handlers/Scrubber.py", line 262, in 
process
size = len(payload)
TypeError: len() of unsized object

Jun 06 15:10:09 2005 (27089) SHUNTING: 
1118084879.080544+37fc5a2467c00ef900e9933a77c481ec4aa67de3
 END ERROR LOG =

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailmain Error

[Mark Sapiro]

David Hwang wrote:

>Working these bugs through their logical conclusion
>
>I got the home directory problem fixed, but now I'm getting these errors. 
>Any hints?
>
>Job /usr/bin/python -S /usr/lib/mailman/cron/disabled terminated (exit 
>status: 1) (mailing output)
>
>Job /usr/bin/python -S /usr/lib/mailman/cron/senddigests terminated (exit 
>status: 1) (mailing output)

Is there anything in Mailman's error log about these?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Listing subscribers without admin password?

[Mark Sapiro]

Trevor Cullingsworth wrote:
>
>I was wondering if there was a way through the web browser interface to 
>list subscribers of a mailing list without inputting the admin password. 


Go to Privacy options...->Subscription rules and set private_roster
(Who can view subscription list?) to List Members.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Search Mailman Archives

[Mark Sapiro]

Andrew stolarz wrote:

> I just loaded the mailman software on my server and everything works great!
> one thing, the archives that get loaded on the website, is there a nice 
>search feature "plug-in" that can be used to spice things up?


See FAQ article 1.11
>Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py

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Re: [Mailman-Users] First-time poster...

[Mark Sapiro]

Bill Landry wrote:
>
>I change the aliases.db to be group writeable, and even tried setting the 
>ownership to root:mailman, but "bin/check_perms" did not like that and set 
>the permission back to mailman:mailman.  The aliase* files now look like 
>(with no bin/check_perms issues reported):
>
>-rw-rw-r--  1 mailman mailman 107000 Jun  6 08:59 aliases
>-rw-rw-r--  1 mailman mailman 167936 Jun  6 08:59 aliases.db
>
>but I am still seeing the same problem reported in the maillog:
>
>Jun  6 10:52:07 lists postfix/local[20108]: warning: cannot find alias 
>database owner for hash:/usr/local/mailman/data/aliases(0,34100)



What happens if you leave the ownership as root:mailman in spite of
check_perms?

Have you followed the Postfix setup instructions at for example
http://mailman.sourceforge.net/mailman-install/node12.html (mirrors at
http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-install/node12.html and
http://www.list.org/mailman-install/node12.html

In any case, this appears to be a postfix configuration issue. A google
search for "cannot find alias database owner" turns up two links to a
postfix module alias.c, the relevant piece of which is:

/*
 * DELIVERY RIGHTS
 * 
 * What rights to use for |command and /file/name deliveries? The
 * command and file code will use default rights when the alias
 * database is owned by root, otherwise it will use the rights of
 * the alias database owner.
 */
if ((alias_uid = dict_owner(*cpp)) == 0) {
alias_pwd = 0;
RESET_USER_ATTR(usr_attr, state.level);
} else {
if ((alias_pwd = mypwuid(alias_uid)) == 0) {
msg_warn("cannot find alias database owner for %s", *cpp);
*statusp = defer_append(BOUNCE_FLAG_KEEP,
BOUNCE_ATTR(state.msg_attr),
"cannot find alias database owner");
return (YES);
}
SET_USER_ATTR(usr_attr, alias_pwd, state.level);
}





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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailmain Error

[David Hwang]

Working these bugs through their logical conclusion

I got the home directory problem fixed, but now I'm getting these errors. 
Any hints?

Job /usr/bin/python -S /usr/lib/mailman/cron/disabled terminated (exit 
status: 1) (mailing output)

Job /usr/bin/python -S /usr/lib/mailman/cron/senddigests terminated (exit 
status: 1) (mailing output)

Thanks,
David


- Original Message - 
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: 
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailmain Error



>
> Check the home directory for the mailman user in the /etc/passwd file.
> I think the error must be something like that. The Defaults.py
> variables are PREFIX, EXEC_PREFIX and VAR_PREFIX, but they are set by
> configure and have to be OK if lists are generally working.
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[Mailman-Users] Listing subscribers without admin password?

[Trevor Cullingsworth]

Hi,

I was wondering if there was a way through the web browser interface to 
list subscribers of a mailing list without inputting the admin password. 

We have users who at times need to see who is on a list.  However, I do 
not want to give them the admin password because they could go in and 
change settings, add/remove users, etc.  I can run the list_members 
command from the command line but rather than write a PHP script to 
utilize this command I was wondering if there was a nother way already 
in place.

Thank you.

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[Mailman-Users] Search Mailman Archives

[Andrew stolarz]

Hello Everyone,
 I just loaded the mailman software on my server and everything works great!
 one thing, the archives that get loaded on the website, is there a nice 
search feature "plug-in" that can be used to spice things up?
 I dont want to use any 3rd party hosting services and have messages stored 
elseware.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] limit to space

[Mark Sapiro]

gus wrote:
>
>1_ How can put limit of message to one list created in mailman?

You can limit the size of a single post with max_message_size.

If you are asking about a limit to the total number of posts to a list
or the number of posts by a single user or any other "number of posts"
kind of limit, I don't think you can do it without significantly
hacking the code.

>2_One user , always send mail with attachemt...
>Today after 2 months these user can 't send the attachmen, with the 
>message...

Did filter_content suddenly get turned on?

What happens? Is the post rejected or is it processed without the
attachment. If the post is sent to the list, does it have a

X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 

header?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] First-time poster...

[Bill Landry]

- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Sapiro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


> >I have setup a list server running on Fedora Core 2, with Postfix 2.2.3,
> >Mailman 2.1.5, and Python 2.3.4.  I think I followed the Mailman setup 
> >and
> >configuration guidelines correctly, but am having a problem that I cannot
> >find resolution to via google nor by a search of the Mailman list 
> >archives.
> >
> >When sending a message to a test list, the message sits in the queue and
>
> Postfix queue?

Yes.

> >Postfix reports in the maillog:
> >
> >Jun  6 09:04:55 lists postfix/qmgr[19892]: E16EA6FE2C:
> >from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, size=1215, nrcpt=1 (queue
> >active)
>
> This looks like mailman has received the post and is trying to notify
> the owner/moderator (or maybe deliver the post if there is only one
> recipient). Listname-bounces is the usual envelope sender for messages
> from Mailman.
>
> >Jun  6 09:04:55 lists postfix/local[19915]: warning: cannot find alias
> >database owner for hash:/usr/local/mailman/data/aliases(0,34100)
>
> I don't know postfix and am not sure what this means.
>
> >The permissions on the aliases* files are:
> >
> >ls -l /usr/local/mailman/data/alias*
> >-rw-rw  1 mailman mailman 107000 Jun  6 08:59 aliases
> >-rw-r-  1 mailman mailman 167936 Jun  6 08:59 aliases.db
>
> aliases.db should be group writable and I think is normally owned by
> root which may relate to the above log message.

I change the aliases.db to be group writeable, and even tried setting the 
ownership to root:mailman, but "bin/check_perms" did not like that and set 
the permission back to mailman:mailman.  The aliase* files now look like 
(with no bin/check_perms issues reported):

-rw-rw-r--  1 mailman mailman 107000 Jun  6 08:59 aliases
-rw-rw-r--  1 mailman mailman 167936 Jun  6 08:59 aliases.db

but I am still seeing the same problem reported in the maillog:

Jun  6 10:52:07 lists postfix/local[20108]: warning: cannot find alias 
database owner for hash:/usr/local/mailman/data/aliases(0,34100)

Any other thoughts, ideas, suggestions...?

Thanks,

Bill 

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[Mailman-Users] limit to space

[gus]

Hello
I have a problem.

1_ How can put limit of message to one list created in mailman?


2_One user , always send mail with attachemt...
Today after 2 months these user can 't send the attachmen, with the 
message...

Could anyone help me..
thanks
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[Mailman-Users] Running mailman on dedicated server

[Andy Cravens]

I'm looking for information on pros, cons and setup steps for taking 
mailman off the mail server and setting it up on a dedicated mailman 
list server.  I looked through the entire FAQ and didn't see any info on 
this.  I've seen this information before but can't find it now. 

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Re: [Mailman-Users] First-time poster...

[Mark Sapiro]

Bill Landry wrote:
>
>I have setup a list server running on Fedora Core 2, with Postfix 2.2.3, 
>Mailman 2.1.5, and Python 2.3.4.  I think I followed the Mailman setup and 
>configuration guidelines correctly, but am having a problem that I cannot 
>find resolution to via google nor by a search of the Mailman list archives.
>
>When sending a message to a test list, the message sits in the queue and 

Postfix queue?


>Postfix reports in the maillog:
>
>Jun  6 09:04:55 lists postfix/qmgr[19892]: E16EA6FE2C: 
>from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, size=1215, nrcpt=1 (queue 
>active)


This looks like mailman has received the post and is trying to notify
the owner/moderator (or maybe deliver the post if there is only one
recipient). Listname-bounces is the usual envelope sender for messages
from Mailman.

>Jun  6 09:04:55 lists postfix/local[19915]: warning: cannot find alias 
>database owner for hash:/usr/local/mailman/data/aliases(0,34100)


I don't know postfix and am not sure what this means.


>The permissions on the aliases* files are:
>
>ls -l /usr/local/mailman/data/alias*
>-rw-rw  1 mailman mailman 107000 Jun  6 08:59 aliases
>-rw-r-  1 mailman mailman 167936 Jun  6 08:59 aliases.db


aliases.db should be group writable and I think is normally owned by
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Migration from Linux to MacOSX

[Carfield Yim]

>I'm running Mailman on OSX 10.2.8.  The setup was straightforward
>Installation varies depending on which version of OSX you're running,
>and your preferred MTA.  For some reason, a lot of versions of OSX
>come with sendmail preinstalled while others have postfix or nothing.
>
>The Mailman documentation at  is
>excellent and comprehensive.  Use the FAQ Wizard to find
>specific information on moving lists.  The information on OSX
>is somewhat scanty, but the general information is very good.
>
>Mac users are also good at putting step-by-step how-to information up
>on the web (indeed, one might say that Apple relies on its users for
>good documentation).  A Google query for the specific task you're
>trying to do will probably help more than me sharing the documentation
>I used to get Mailman and exim set up on jaguar.
>
>A lot of things on the Mac are non-Unix-standard because the Mac
>has a schizophrenic operating system.  Part of it is pure BSD Unix,
>but the rest of it is pure Mac native.  Many things, like starting systems
>services, setting up networking, creating a caching name server, and
>other things that you might expect to be vanilla Unix, have at least
>a couple of strange twists on the Mac.
>
>Apache set-up on the Mac is easier than on any other Unix system
>I've tried. 
>
>  
>
Thx for the information, however I get problem from the starting...
where can I download the binary of mailman? I just have a mac mini which
don't come with make and gcc. Besides, as I don't have other software
need to compile, I would like prevent this process, do you know anywhere
can download the binary?

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[Mailman-Users] First-time poster...

[Bill Landry]

Hello list members!

I have setup a list server running on Fedora Core 2, with Postfix 2.2.3, 
Mailman 2.1.5, and Python 2.3.4.  I think I followed the Mailman setup and 
configuration guidelines correctly, but am having a problem that I cannot 
find resolution to via google nor by a search of the Mailman list archives.

When sending a message to a test list, the message sits in the queue and 
Postfix reports in the maillog:

Jun  6 09:04:55 lists postfix/qmgr[19892]: E16EA6FE2C: 
from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, size=1215, nrcpt=1 (queue 
active)
Jun  6 09:04:55 lists postfix/local[19915]: warning: cannot find alias 
database owner for hash:/usr/local/mailman/data/aliases(0,34100)

The permissions on the aliases* files are:

ls -l /usr/local/mailman/data/alias*
-rw-rw  1 mailman mailman 107000 Jun  6 08:59 aliases
-rw-r-  1 mailman mailman 167936 Jun  6 08:59 aliases.db

If anyone has any suggestions on how I might resolve this, I would greatly 
appreciate the feedback.

Regards,

Bill 

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Non-subscribed distribution list?

[Mark Sapiro]

Mailbag (Adolpho) wrote:
>
>We need a mailing list that is just a distribution list.  Here's the deal:
>We have a neighborhood committee that's composed of several individuals.  We
>would like to have a single address that any resident can send e-mail to.
>That single address would then turn into the several addresses belonging to
>the committee members.  The distribution list cannot require the sender of
>the message to subscribe.  It needs to be an open list.
>
>So, I have two questions:
>
>1.  Is this possible with Mailman?

Yes, The committe members subscribe to the list, subscription can be
open or closed as you prefer. Set generic_nonmember_action to accept
and anyone can post.

>2.  If yes, can you please point me in the general direction (docs, etc), so
>I can find out the full answer myself?

See http://www.list.org/admins.html (mirrored at
http://mailman.sourceforge.net/admins.html and
http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/admins.html)

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Re: [Mailman-Users] mbox + references field

[Mark Sapiro]

Jean-Philippe GIOLA wrote:
>
>In the mailman mbox archives, there is sometimes a "References" field 
>for mails.
>Why does this field not present for all mails ???
>when I say "present", I mean "present" for all answer to mails.
>I understand very weel that the first mail of a new thread can't have a 
>reference field.

References: and In-Reply-To: headers are optional and are added to a
reply by the sender's MUA. Any particular MUA will add one, the other,
both or neither, although RFC 2822 says

   Though optional, every message SHOULD have a "Message-ID:" field.
   Furthermore, reply messages SHOULD have "In-Reply-To:" and
   "References:" fields as appropriate, as described below.

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[Mailman-Users] mailman + postfix with mysql

[Grigory Fateyev]

Hello!

I have good working mailsystem: postfix with mysql. Now I need mailman
install.

 main.cf
alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases, hash:/var/lib/mailman/data/aliases
virtual_alias_maps = hash:/var/lib/mailman/data/virtual-mailman,   
mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql_virtual_alias_maps.cf

-rw-r-  1 root list 12288 Jun  6 17:18
/var/lib/mailman/data/aliases.db

-rw-r--r--  1 list list 12288 Jun  6 17:18
/var/lib/mailman/data/virtual-mailman.db

 aliases and virtual-mailman
# STANZA START: selsovet
# CREATED: Mon Jun  6 17:18:48 2005
selsovet: "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post selsovet"
selsovet-admin:   "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman admin selsovet"
selsovet-bounces: "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman bounces selsovet"
selsovet-confirm: "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman confirm selsovet"
selsovet-join:"|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman join selsovet"
selsovet-leave:   "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman leave selsovet"
selsovet-owner:   "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman owner selsovet"
selsovet-request: "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman request selsovet"
selsovet-subscribe:   "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe
selsovet" selsovet-unsubscribe: "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman
unsubscribe selsovet" # STANZA END: selsovet

but at that time I have:
Jun  6 17:25:46 megre postfix/smtpd[14520]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from
unknown[62.33.35.93]: 550 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Recipient address
rejected: User unknown in virtual mailbox table;
from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> proto=ESMTP
helo=

Why can not correct install mailman?

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[Mailman-Users] Non-subscribed distribution list?

[Mailbag]

I'm a brand new user of Mailman currently scoping out its capabilities.  I
apologize if this question is out of line for this forum.  I've searched the
FAQ and the web in general but haven't found my answer.

We need a mailing list that is just a distribution list.  Here's the deal:
We have a neighborhood committee that's composed of several individuals.  We
would like to have a single address that any resident can send e-mail to.
That single address would then turn into the several addresses belonging to
the committee members.  The distribution list cannot require the sender of
the message to subscribe.  It needs to be an open list.

So, I have two questions:

1.  Is this possible with Mailman?

2.  If yes, can you please point me in the general direction (docs, etc), so
I can find out the full answer myself?

Thanks in advance!

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[Mailman-Users] mbox + references field

[Jean-Philippe GIOLA]

HI all

In the mailman mbox archives, there is sometimes a "References" field 
for mails.
Why does this field not present for all mails ???
when I say "present", I mean "present" for all answer to mails.
I understand very weel that the first mail of a new thread can't have a 
reference field.

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[Mailman-Users] PRIVATE AND PUBLIC EXTERNAL ARCHIVER

[Jean-Philippe GIOLA]

HI all

When you use the private or public external archiver, are mails arrives 
one to one ?
and what their form when they arrive ?

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