[Mailman-Users] Moderator Notifications Being Discarded

2005-06-09 Thread Andrew Klein
I have a list where moderator notifications appear to be discarded.  I 
have confirmed admin_immed_notify is turned on.  I have tried it with 
different moderator addresses.  I believe the 'vette' log is telling me 
that the message is being discarded.  I have debugged the source code in 
Queue/IncomingRunner.py and can kind of see what is going on.  The 
DiscardMessage exception is getting thrown somewhere but I cannot figure 
out why or where.  Anyone have a clue on this or how to debug it?  I am 
happy to mess with the source code to narrow it down.

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[Mailman-Users] subject_prefix is missing

2005-06-09 Thread Julien Francoz CoCoZ
I have a list with subject_prefix=[dept-linux/pedago] , but since a few 
hours, this prefix is not added to the subject of mails of this list.
Is there an options to allow/deny the subject_prefix ?

Note: This prefix is added to all mails in the mailing-list archive, 
even for mail which are delivered without subject_prefix.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Moderator Notifications Being Discarded

2005-06-09 Thread Mark Sapiro
Andrew Klein wrote:

I have a list where moderator notifications appear to be discarded.  I 
have confirmed admin_immed_notify is turned on.  I have tried it with 
different moderator addresses.  I believe the 'vette' log is telling me 
that the message is being discarded.  I have debugged the source code in 
Queue/IncomingRunner.py and can kind of see what is going on.  The 
DiscardMessage exception is getting thrown somewhere but I cannot figure 
out why or where.  Anyone have a clue on this or how to debug it?  I am 
happy to mess with the source code to narrow it down.

Try sending an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and see what happens to
that.

Owner notification is a two step process. The notice is created for
listname-owner and placed in the virgin queue where it is picked up
and sent to listname-owner and treated as any other message sent to
the listname-owner address.

Sending your own mail to listname-owner will at least tell you whether
the mail is lost in the first or second step. If everything is normal,
there are two entries in the 'smtp' log for the notice - one (with one
recipient) when it is sent to listname-owner and one with n recipients
when it is sent to the n owners/moderators.

If mail to listname-owner doesn't work, check the alias.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] subject_prefix is missing

2005-06-09 Thread Mark Sapiro
Julien Francoz CoCoZ wrote:

I have a list with subject_prefix=[dept-linux/pedago] , but since a few 
hours, this prefix is not added to the subject of mails of this list.
Is there an options to allow/deny the subject_prefix ?

Note: This prefix is added to all mails in the mailing-list archive, 
even for mail which are delivered without subject_prefix.

Are you sure you're not seeing messages delivered by direct To: or Cc:
outside of Mailman?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Moderator Notifications Being Discarded

2005-06-09 Thread Andrew Klein
Mark,

Thanks.  By sending to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I found the problem was a 
messed up aliases file.  Instead of sending to the owner, it was trying 
to post.

Andy

Mark Sapiro wrote:

Andrew Klein wrote:

  

I have a list where moderator notifications appear to be discarded.  I 
have confirmed admin_immed_notify is turned on.  I have tried it with 
different moderator addresses.  I believe the 'vette' log is telling me 
that the message is being discarded.  I have debugged the source code in 
Queue/IncomingRunner.py and can kind of see what is going on.  The 
DiscardMessage exception is getting thrown somewhere but I cannot figure 
out why or where.  Anyone have a clue on this or how to debug it?  I am 
happy to mess with the source code to narrow it down.



Try sending an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and see what happens to
that.

Owner notification is a two step process. The notice is created for
listname-owner and placed in the virgin queue where it is picked up
and sent to listname-owner and treated as any other message sent to
the listname-owner address.

Sending your own mail to listname-owner will at least tell you whether
the mail is lost in the first or second step. If everything is normal,
there are two entries in the 'smtp' log for the notice - one (with one
recipient) when it is sent to listname-owner and one with n recipients
when it is sent to the n owners/moderators.

If mail to listname-owner doesn't work, check the alias.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] subject_prefix is missing

2005-06-09 Thread Julien Francoz CoCoZ
  Are you sure you're not seeing messages delivered by direct To: or Cc:
  outside of Mailman?

I'm seeing the message coming from mailman:

From: sender address
Reply-To: mailing list address
To: mailing list address
...
and the footer:
Equipe-pedagogique-linux mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://minux.esi-supinfo.com/mailman/listinfo/equipe-pedagogique-linux


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[Mailman-Users] Mails are not deliver for one mailing-list

2005-06-09 Thread Julien Francoz CoCoZ
I have another problem on one mailing-list. It was working fine, but 
since 2 days, all mails to list [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
are not deliver. All others mailing lists are working fine.

Here are the logs of mailman for this list

post:Jun 09 12:07:49 2005 (23711) post to departement-linux from 
[EMAIL PROTECTED], size=6134, 
message-id=[EMAIL PROTECTED], success

smtp:Jun 09 12:07:49 2005 (23711) [EMAIL PROTECTED] smtp 
for 40 recips, completed in 2.202 seconds

There is no error in postfix logs.

Have you got an idea ?

(it's the mailman package on MacosX server)


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[Mailman-Users] Auto discard non-members messages

2005-06-09 Thread Daevid Vincent
I'm starting to see a lot of spam sent to my two lists. Both are members
only. 

I'd like mailman to automatically discard any messages sent to the list from
non-members. However, I would like to accept (and send to me/admin) any
subscribe request messages (otherwise, how would I get new members ;-)

Can someone tell me how to do this?

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[Mailman-Users] after check_perms -f -- cgis no longer work

2005-06-09 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
Hi

On a gentoo linux box with a from source made 2.1.5 (not from  
emerge), mailman was happily running, except some archives were not  
being updated.  I ran a bin/check_perms -f and now the cgis (listinfo  
or any of them) are no longer working and the apache error log shows  
the (infamous) Premature end of script headers: /web/.com/ 
mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo error.

Neither mailman or apache have been updated recently and before the  
check_perms it was working fine.  If I go in as mailman and run the  
cgi listinfo at the command line, for example, it dumps the right html.

I went back and looked at the config in the mailman source and it has  
good cgi_gid set for example.

I am stumped. I have messed around with the permissions and ownership  
of the cgi and run check_perms -f a few times (says no problems) but  
the cgis won't run.

Any hints or pointers would be appreciated.

Thanks
Chad

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Re: [Mailman-Users] who approved a message

2005-06-09 Thread Mark Sapiro
Eduardo Jaime Quiros Batres wrote:

 How can I discover wich adminstrator/moderator approved a message?

Ask them :-)

There's no way to find this out from Mailman.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Auto discard non-members messages

2005-06-09 Thread Mark Sapiro
Daevid Vincent wrote:

I'm starting to see a lot of spam sent to my two lists. Both are members
only. 

I'd like mailman to automatically discard any messages sent to the list from
non-members. However, I would like to accept (and send to me/admin) any
subscribe request messages (otherwise, how would I get new members ;-)

What do you consider a subscribe request? If you mean a message sent to
the list posting address ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) with a subject or
message body saying please subscribe me or something like that, then
you can't do what you want because these messages will be discarded
like any other non-member post.

If you consider a subscribe request to be a message sent to the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] address or
to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] address with subject or body
subscribe, then this is easy. You can set subscribe_policy to
require your approval or not. You can set admin_notify_mchanges to Yes
so you get notified of subscribes and unsubscribes. You can set
generic_nonmember_action to Discard so non-member posts will be
discarded.

So, if you're not concerned about subscribe requests sent to the list
posting address, you can discard all non-member posts. If you want to
see a potential subscribe request that's sent to the list posting
address, then you have to Hold non-member posts.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mails are not deliver for one mailing-list

2005-06-09 Thread Mark Sapiro
Julien Francoz CoCoZ wrote:

I have another problem on one mailing-list. It was working fine, but 
since 2 days, all mails to list [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
are not deliver. All others mailing lists are working fine.

Here are the logs of mailman for this list

post:Jun 09 12:07:49 2005 (23711) post to departement-linux from 
[EMAIL PROTECTED], size=6134, 
message-id=[EMAIL PROTECTED], success

smtp:Jun 09 12:07:49 2005 (23711) [EMAIL PROTECTED] smtp 
for 40 recips, completed in 2.202 seconds

There is no error in postfix logs.

The smtp log entry says the message was delivered to postfix on behalf
of 40 recipients. Is there an smtp-failure log? If not or if so but
there's no entry for this message, then the delivery to postfix was
successful. Is there anything in the bounce log? Maybe it's still
queued in postfix.

(it's the mailman package on MacosX server)

See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq01.021.htp

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Re: [Mailman-Users] subject_prefix is missing

2005-06-09 Thread Mark Sapiro
Julien Francoz CoCoZ wrote:

  Are you sure you're not seeing messages delivered by direct To: or Cc:
  outside of Mailman?

I'm seeing the message coming from mailman:


Then I have no idea how this can happen. In standard Mailman, the
subject_prefix is added in the CookHeaders.py handler before the
message is sent to the digest, archive and list. If the prefix is in
the archived message, I can't see how it could not be in the message
to the list.

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