[Mailman-Users] reject explanation send to owners ?

2005-06-27 Thread Christophe Meessen
Hello,

we have a list currently managed by two moderators. We use moderation 
and some time we reject mails and provide a specific explanation.
The ennoying feature in our current configuration is that the other 
moderator does not know the explanation given unless the moderator send 
by hand an explicit message to the other moderator to explain what he did.

There is an option to send mail to owner, but this function won't send 
the explanation sent back to the original sender. Is it possible that 
the reject message is sent also to the owners so that they can see the 
explanation given ?
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[Mailman-Users] Return Path

2005-06-27 Thread Petra Humann
Hello,

I'm running mailman 2.1.5 with Sun Messaging Server.

I noticed, that every mail has two "Return-Path" headers:
> Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Running mailman version 2.1.1 with sendmail only one
Return-Path header exists.
> Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Are two Return-Path headers okay?

Some mails fail,the notifications to the postmaster include the
reason, e.g.:

> Sat, 25 Jun 2005 21:25:08 +0200 (MEST)
> Error reading SMTP packet; response to RCPT TO command expected

I assume, that the two Return-Path headers are the reason.
How do I correct this?

Thank you very much.
P.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Message Unparsable

2005-06-27 Thread Dennis Putnam
This problem seems to be a little more serious then I thought. It 
appears that no HTML attachments are getting through mailman. In 
addition to the unparsable error I am also getting a "non-text 
attachment was scrubbed" error and one message went into a black hole 
(no message distributed and nothing in any Mailman logs). There is only 
a message in the SMTP log showing the message was passed to the Mailman 
command string.

I desperately need some help resolving this problem. Is there some 
filtering going on here that hoses HTML attachments that needs to be 
turned off. How can I debug this when there is nothing in the logs? Is 
there a verbose mode switch I can turn on? TIA.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Message Unparsable

2005-06-27 Thread Brad Knowles
At 8:24 AM -0400 2005-06-27, Dennis Putnam wrote:

>   How can I debug this when there is nothing in the logs?

Good question.

>   Is
>  there a verbose mode switch I can turn on? TIA.

Nope, no verbose mode.  One of the problems I've had with Mailman 
for some time has been the sometimes limited amount of information 
that it puts into the logs, and the lack of any kind of ability to 
increase the logging level.

You may be forced to use command-line tools to try to identify 
problematical messages that are sitting in the "shunt" queue (if 
any), or going into the Python source code and adding some more of 
your own logging.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Message Unparsable

2005-06-27 Thread Dennis Putnam
Hm.. "Shunt" queue? Maybe that would at least let me know what Mailman 
is looking that it can't parse, just in case something unexpected is 
being inserted along the way. Where is that directory? I see nothing in 
the /var/mailman path that looks like a "shunt" queue.

I'm not a Python programmer so I am not about to touch that. Thanks for 
the reply.

On Jun 27, 2005, at 8:42 AM, Brad Knowles wrote:

> At 8:24 AM -0400 2005-06-27, Dennis Putnam wrote:
>
>>   How can I debug this when there is nothing in the logs?
>
>   Good question.
>
>>   
>> Is
>>  there a verbose mode switch I can turn on? TIA.
>
>   Nope, no verbose mode.  One of the problems I've had with Mailman for 
> some time has been the sometimes limited amount of information that it 
> puts into the logs, and the lack of any kind of ability to increase 
> the logging level.
>
>   You may be forced to use command-line tools to try to identify 
> problematical messages that are sitting in the "shunt" queue (if any), 
> or going into the Python source code and adding some more of your own 
> logging.
>

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Message Unparsable

2005-06-27 Thread Brad Knowles
At 9:01 AM -0400 2005-06-27, Dennis Putnam wrote:

>  Hm.. "Shunt" queue? Maybe that would at least let me know what Mailman
>  is looking that it can't parse, just in case something unexpected is
>  being inserted along the way. Where is that directory? I see nothing in
>  the /var/mailman path that looks like a "shunt" queue.

Normally, it would be located under 
/usr/local/mailman/qfiles/shunt, but it appears that the version of 
Mailman you're using on your platform has put that directory 
structure somewhere else.

>  I'm not a Python programmer so I am not about to touch that. Thanks for
>  the reply.

I'm not a Python programmer, either.  However, it should be 
simple enough to find some of the existing examples of logging and to 
copy-n-paste those lines to other code elsewhere in the system, 
making appropriate changes for the message you want logged, and 
making sure to get the indentation correct for the new location of 
the code.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Message Unparsable

2005-06-27 Thread Dennis Putnam
Thanks. It is in /var/mailman/qfiles but the shunt directory is empty. 
Rats!

On Jun 27, 2005, at 9:07 AM, Brad Knowles wrote:

>
>   Normally, it would be located under /usr/local/mailman/qfiles/shunt, 
> but it appears that the version of Mailman you're using on your 
> platform has put that directory structure somewhere else.
>   SNIP

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[Mailman-Users] Need more guidance in getting Mailman lists running on OS X Tiger Server

2005-06-27 Thread Thomas Waters
I tried to move our mailman lists from the older Panther Server to a  
new install of tiger server, and I'm still not there.

Postfix is working.  Mailman is working.  What isn't correct is the  
Web UI for Mailman.

The lists use the addresses [EMAIL PROTECTED], but the web  
site has a URL of www/pharmacy.pitt.edu/mailman/somelist

In the mm_cfg.py file, email host is set to pharmacy.pitt.edu and URL  
host set to www.pharmacy.pitt.edu.  Is this the correct settings?

If I go to the Maillist admin web page, and try to create a new list,  
I get error- unknown virtual host www.pharmacy.pitt.edu.

I can create a list in the OS X Server Admin however.   I believe the  
only pice that is "broken" is create a new list via the web UI.


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[Mailman-Users] Help getting SuSE 9.3+Mailman 2.1.5+Apache2 working

2005-06-27 Thread Michael Regoli
Hello! I'm trying to get mailman and Apache2 working nicely from the
stock SuSE distro. (YOU, Yast Online Update is current on the machine,
so if there's new stuff for either mailman or Apache2, I've got it.
mailman is version [2.1.5] and Apache2 is version [2.0.53].)

Has anyone got the two working together? If so, could you shed some
light on your Apache2 configuration? I've followed all of the
instructions at
http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-install/node10.html, but
cannot get Apache2 to "see" the mailman stuff in
/usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin (I'm getting 403: "client denied by server
configuration: /var/lib/mailman/cgi-bin" when I visit
"http://servername/mailman/admin"; for instance.)

Web server is running fine.  The machine has a few other virtual hosts
on it, so I've put the mailman configuration into the default virtual
hosts setup in /etc/apache2/default-server.conf:


 ServerName www.servername.here:80
 DocumentRoot "/srv/www/htdocs"
 ServerAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 TransferLog /var/log/apache2/access_log
 ErrorLog /var/log/apache2/error_log
 ScriptAlias /mailman/ /var/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/
 
   AllowOverride None
   Options +ExecCGI +Includes
   Order allow,deny
   Allow from all
< /Directory>
 

I've even tried duplicating the  section above in the
main "default-server.conf" file to allow CGI from within the
mailman/cgi-bin directory.  No luck.

I think I'm putting the mailman configuration in the wrong place, as
apache is clearly not letting me run anything from the mailman/cgi-bin
directory.

Thanks for any advice!  --mike
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Need more guidance in getting Mailman lists runningon OS X Tiger Server

2005-06-27 Thread Mark Sapiro
Thomas Waters wrote:

>I tried to move our mailman lists from the older Panther Server to a  
>new install of tiger server, and I'm still not there.
>
>Postfix is working.  Mailman is working.  What isn't correct is the  
>Web UI for Mailman.
>
>The lists use the addresses [EMAIL PROTECTED], but the web  
>site has a URL of www/pharmacy.pitt.edu/mailman/somelist


I assume you mean www.pharmacy.pitt.edu/mailman/somelist


>In the mm_cfg.py file, email host is set to pharmacy.pitt.edu and URL  
>host set to www.pharmacy.pitt.edu.  Is this the correct settings?
>
>If I go to the Maillist admin web page, and try to create a new list,  
>I get error- unknown virtual host www.pharmacy.pitt.edu.
>
>I can create a list in the OS X Server Admin however.   I believe the  
>only pice that is "broken" is create a new list via the web UI.

It seems you haven't put

add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST)

in mm_cfg.py following the definitions of DEFAULT_URL_HOST and
DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST.

in mm_cfg.py you should have:

DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'pharmacy.pitt.edu'
DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'www.pharmacy.pitt.edu'
VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear()
add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST)

The VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear() isn't absolutely necessary, but it removes
the presumably erroneous entry added in Defaults.py.

See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq04.029.htp

You should not have any entries in mm_cfg.py for
DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN
DEFAULT_HOST_NAME
DEFAULT_URL

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Restoring lists?

2005-06-27 Thread Mark Sapiro
John Athayde wrote:

>I had to archive an old mailman install and reformat a box, and I'm  
>now wondering how to restore the old lists. I've not been able to  
>locate anything so far via google.

See http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2005-June/045255.html

The context is different, but it should help.

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[Mailman-Users] plugins

2005-06-27 Thread phil durning
Are there any mailman “plug-ins” for:

To allow the mailman database to hold other information (like the addresses, 
phone numbers,
billing codes, etc.) 

To send faxes via Mailman
?
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Re: [Mailman-Users] virtual domain lists

2005-06-27 Thread Mark Sapiro
Christian Anton wrote:
>
>i am running mailman 2.1.5 with the mailman-virtual patch for some virtual 
>domains.
>Because of the usage of suexec on my Webserver i have every vhost running its 
>CGI's with another UID on the system. For being able to access the 
>mailman-binaries i have to create a new vhost that ist only for this, for 
>example "lists.domain.tld", configuring in this vhost that cgi's are executed 
>with the UID 'mailman'.
>
>Now i want to create a mailinglist [EMAIL PROTECTED], but the URL host for 
>seeing 
>the webpages of the list must be [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Do you mean lists.mglug.de?


>I have read the documentation and i think that add_virtualhost(, 
>) has to be what i want, so that when i create a list with the 
>command:
>
>bin/newlist [EMAIL PROTECTED]


If you carefully read 'bin/newlist --help' you will see the command you
want is

bin/newlist [EMAIL PROTECTED]

i.e., [EMAIL PROTECTED], not [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I know this is confusing and it has been addressed in 2.1.6 by adding
new options so you could do

bin/newlist list --urlhost=lists.mglug.de

but this won't work in 2.1.5.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Welcome to the "Mailman-Users" mailing list

2005-06-27 Thread Mark Sapiro
Peter Seebach wrote:

>In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, mailman-us
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>>Welcome to the Mailman-Users@python.org mailing list! Don't forget to
>>check out the Mailman FAQ at:


And if you had, you might have come across
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq04.029.htp
which would have helped with your problem.

You need to run fix_url against your old lists as explained in the
'Existing versus new lists' section of the above FAQ article.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] plugins

2005-06-27 Thread Brad Knowles
At 4:54 PM -0700 2005-06-27, phil durning wrote:

>  Are there any mailman “plug-ins” for:

Mailman does not have any "plug-ins".

>  To allow the mailman database to hold other information (like the
>  addresses, phone numbers, billing codes, etc.)
>
>  To send faxes via Mailman

No.  Among others, see 
, 
, 
, 
, 
and 
.

In the future, I would encourage you to follow the instructions 
at 
 
before posting questions to this list.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] A question about moving to a new server...

2005-06-27 Thread Mark Sapiro
Michael D. Smith wrote:

>I currently run Mailman 2.1.6 on a RH 8.0 server.
>
>I've recently set up a new RHEL 4.0 server and wish to migrate my 
>lists from the old server to the new one.

See http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2005-June/045255.html

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Re: [Mailman-Users] PUBLIC_EXTERNAL_ARCHIVER

2005-06-27 Thread Mark Sapiro
Jean-Philippe GIOLA wrote:
>
>I try to use the option PUBLIC_EXTERNAL_ARCHIVER but it doesn't work.
>
>I have add this line in mm_cfg.py : PUBLIC_EXTERNAL_ARCHIVER = 'cat > 
>/home/users/jean-philippe_giola/mailman-archive'
>so I want to store a mail that is sent in a the 
>"/home/users/jean-philippe_giola/mailman-archive" temporary file.
>But when I send a mail to a list, it is not written in thi temporary file.

Does the list have public archives? If not, use
PRIVATE_EXTERNAL_ARCHIVER.

>Does someone has an idea of the problem ?
>May I have some other option to change ?
>is it useful to recompile the mm_cfg.py file or it is done alone ?

You need to do

bin/mailmanctl restart

after making mm_cfg.py changes. Recompilation will occur automatically.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] no mail

2005-06-27 Thread Mark Sapiro
Dina Hornreich wrote:
>
>I manage a list called typical girls at 
>http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/typicalgirls .
>
>It seems that after I update my e-mail address, i haven't been receiving posts 
>despite NOT having selected "no mail."

Did you receive and respond to an e-mail address change confirmation
mail at the new address?

>Also, the info page has half an e-mail address where it says to post to.

The domain of the posting address comes from host_name near the bottom
of the General Options section of the admin interface.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] problems with permissions?

2005-06-27 Thread Mark Sapiro
Eduardo Jaime Quiros Batres wrote:

>I have mailman 2.1.4 on a mandrake 10.0 and have upgraded msec to version =
>
>msec-0.44.2-1mdk but I still get a bug error when I try to confirm a =
>
>subscription to a list.
>
>I runned check_permissions -f and it didn't work, I gave a chwon apache.mai=
>l =
>
>on all the /var/log/mailman subdirectory and it still didn't work and I als=
>o =
>
>gave a chown 664 on /var/mailman/log and the error is:
>
>
>Jun 23 19:57:00 2005 admin(3952): @=
>@@@
>admin(3952): [- Mailman Version: 2.1.4 -]
>admin(3952): [- Traceback --]
>admin(3952): Traceback (most recent call last):
>admin(3952):   File "/usr/lib/mailman/scripts/driver", line 101, in run_main
>admin(3952): main()
>admin(3952):   File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/confirm.py", line 110, in =
>
>main
>admin(3952): subscription_confirm(mlist, doc, cookie, cgidata)
>admin(3952):   File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/confirm.py", line 333, in =
>
>subscription_confirm
>admin(3952): op, addr, pw, digest, lang =3D mlist.ProcessConfirmation(
>admin(3952):   File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 1120, in =
>
>ProcessConfirmation
>admin(3952): self.HoldSubscription(addr, fullname, password, digest, la=
>ng)
>admin(3952):   File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/ListAdmin.py", line 391, in =
>
>HoldSubscription
>admin(3952): assert not self.__db.has_key(id)
>admin(3952): AssertionError

This is not a permissions problem. It is a bug in Mailman 2.1.4 which
was fixed in 2.1.5.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Message Unparsable

2005-06-27 Thread Mark Sapiro
Dennis Putnam wrote:

>Thanks. It is in /var/mailman/qfiles but the shunt directory is empty. 
>Rats!

Not surprising since normally there is a message in the 'error' log
when a message is shunted.

On the original question, have you looked at your list's Content
filtering Section? I suggest that initially, filter_content should be
'No', and if 'Yes', filter action should be 'Reject' or 'Forward', not
'Discard' or 'Preserve'.

Also regarding scrubbed attachments, normally attachments are only
scrubbed from archives and digests, and when scrubbed, they are stored
and replaced by a web link to the stored attachment. Is this what
happened in your case?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscribe not functioning

2005-06-27 Thread Mark Sapiro
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>External subscribing is not working thru either the
>web interface or the [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>method.  There is no confirmation message being
>sent...  I can subscribe locally thru email, can
>manually add addresses thru the admin interface, and
>can even send/receive list mail from any
>already-subscribed address with no problem.


Can an external user post successfully?

If an internal user can successfully subscribe by e-mail, but an
external user can't, I think it must be an Exim configuration issue.

Can internal users subscribe via the web and external users not? I
can't offhand understand what might cause this.


>I've looked thru the FAQ, the FAQ wizard, searched
>this lists' archives the best I can, and still cannot
>find anything similar enough to suggest a problem/fix.
>
>I'm using Mailman 2.1.6rc4, Exim 3 on Debian GNU/Linux
>3.

Have you looked at
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.019.htp

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Re: [Mailman-Users] reject explanation send to owners ?

2005-06-27 Thread Mark Sapiro
Christophe Meessen wrote:
>
>we have a list currently managed by two moderators. We use moderation 
>and some time we reject mails and provide a specific explanation.
>The ennoying feature in our current configuration is that the other 
>moderator does not know the explanation given unless the moderator send 
>by hand an explicit message to the other moderator to explain what he did.
>
>There is an option to send mail to owner, but this function won't send 
>the explanation sent back to the original sender. Is it possible that 
>the reject message is sent also to the owners so that they can see the 
>explanation given ?

There is currently no option to copy the reject notice to the (other)
owners/moderators, but it would be useful in cases such as yours. This
is already an RFE, see
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1012925&group_id=103&atid=350103

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Return Path

2005-06-27 Thread Mark Sapiro
Petra Humann wrote:
>
>I'm running mailman 2.1.5 with Sun Messaging Server.
>
>I noticed, that every mail has two "Return-Path" headers:
>> Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>Running mailman version 2.1.1 with sendmail only one
>Return-Path header exists.
>> Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>Are two Return-Path headers okay?


Not really, but they shouldn't cause the following problem.

Section 4.4 of RFC 2821 - SMTP which can be found at
http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2821.html is the standard which covers the
use of Return-Path: headers.

When mail is delivered from the SMTP environment to an 'outside'
destination, the delivering server MUST add a Return-Path: header
containing the envelope sender information. The MTA that finally
delivers to Mailman inserts the

Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

header, and the MTA that finally delivers the post from Mailman to the
recipient inserts the

Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

header.

The issue is the removal of the first Return-Path: header in the
process of delivery from Mailman to recipient. The standard says that
the MTA making final delivery MAY (not MUST) remove Return-Path:
headers before adding its own. It also says that gateways from
elsewhere to SMTP SHOULD delete any Return-Path: header from the
message which seems to say that Mailman should do this before sending
the message, but it doesn't. It could easily be done in the
bulkdeliver() method in Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py, but comments
there seem to indicate that Mailman relies the outgoing and/or final
delivery MTA to do it.

Thus we have the situation where your messages wind up with two
Return-Path headers in your particular configuration although some
recipients may see only one if the MTA doing final delivery to them
removes the first.


>Some mails fail,the notifications to the postmaster include the
>reason, e.g.:
>
>> Sat, 25 Jun 2005 21:25:08 +0200 (MEST)
>> Error reading SMTP packet; response to RCPT TO command expected
>
>I assume, that the two Return-Path headers are the reason.
>How do I correct this?

I don't think this is the reason, but I may be wrong. Do the failures
occur consistently for the same subset of recipients? If so, it might
be the extra Return-Path, but it doesn't seem to me that this would
result in the specific reported error.

If you want to delete the first Return-Path in Mailman to test this,
you could edit the Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py module. In this
module you will see

def bulkdeliver(mlist, msg, msgdata, envsender, failures, conn):

followed by several lines of comments followed by

del msg['sender']
del msg['errors-to']
msg['Sender'] = envsender
msg['Errors-To'] = envsender

Change these by adding one line as follows:

del msg['sender']
del msg['errors-to']
del msg['return-path']
msg['Sender'] = envsender
msg['Errors-To'] = envsender

Be sure the added line is indented exactly the same as the others and
with spaces, not tab.

After editing, restart mailman to pick up the change.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] privacy alert

2005-06-27 Thread Mark Sapiro
Sean wrote:
>
>In general, I think this would be useful information to include in the
>source to help system administrators block offending IP addresses from the
>servers.  Any thoughts about this, pro or con, before I file an RFE?

I agree it would be useful.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Can't Send mail to the list

2005-06-27 Thread Mark Sapiro
Benjamin Wise wrote:
>
>The problem is every time I send an email to the list.
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
>
> 
>
>I receive the following error message
>
>
>
>
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>[IP address] does not like recipient.
>
>Remote host said: 550 5.1.1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... User unknown
>Giving up on [IP Adress].


Have you configured sendmail aliases to pipe list mail to the mailman
wrapper?

See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq03.014.htp

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Re: [Mailman-Users] SuSe 9.3 / Mailman / Python 2.4-14: cannot readwrapper configuration file

2005-06-27 Thread Mark Sapiro
Poster wrote:
>
>Greetings everyone. I'm using SuSe 9.3 with the suppled Mailman and
>Python and I'm running smack dab into the dreaded "Cannot read wrapper
>configuration file" error. This is obtained when I try to send mail to
>aliases for a list, or when I try to execute any of Mailman's CGI
>programs through the web interface.

This appears to be a SuSe specific way of configuring group
authorization for the wrappers. I suggest you explore this on a SuSe
list/forum/etc. where you are likely to encounter people who know more
about this.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscribe not functioning

2005-06-27 Thread rdembski
--- Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> >External subscribing is not working thru either the
> >web interface or the [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >method.  There is no confirmation message being
> >sent...  I can subscribe locally thru email, can
> >manually add addresses thru the admin interface,
> and
> >can even send/receive list mail from any
> >already-subscribed address with no problem.
> 
> 
> Can an external user post successfully?

-- Yes, anyone already subscribed to the list can
post.  I've had to add all outside addresses manually
through the administration pages.
 
> If an internal user can successfully subscribe by
> e-mail, but an
> external user can't, I think it must be an Exim
> configuration issue.

-- When testing it out, I don't receive an
"undeliverable"-type reply, so the message is being
delivered.  There's just no confirmation response at
all...  I'm looking into upgrading Exim to 4 with SSL.
 Perhaps that may make a difference, as it appears 3.x
is not very well supported...?
 
> Can internal users subscribe via the web and
> external users not? I
> can't offhand understand what might cause this.

-- Web subscribing does not work at all.  No
confirmation email is delivered, nor is an
administrative accept request issued when I tried that
route.

> >I've looked thru the FAQ, the FAQ wizard, searched
> >this lists' archives the best I can, and still
> cannot
> >find anything similar enough to suggest a
> problem/fix.
> >
> >I'm using Mailman 2.1.6rc4, Exim 3 on Debian
> GNU/Linux
> >3.
> 
> Have you looked at
>
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.019.htp
> 
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> 

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