[Mailman-Users] How to Create Mailing list for sub-domain?

2005-08-31 Thread gbteh
Hi,



Thanks for your wonderful program that help me to maintain the mailing list.



I am a mailman user. My domain name is “epcombb.org”



I have tried to create a sub-domain recently names “clhs.epcombb.org”. I
managed created mailing list for it.



BUT whenever I tried to click on the “Edit” link to enter into the
“mailing list administration”,
http://mail.clhs.epcombb.org/mailman/admin/clhs_clhs.epcombb.org, an error
page appear “The page cannot be displayed”. Can someone help me? Or there
is NO way out at the moment so I can stop trying. Can we create mailing
list for sub-domain?



Appreciate your reply.



Thanks



Regards

GB


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Re: [Mailman-Users] How to Create Mailing list for sub-domain?

2005-08-31 Thread Sythos
On Wed, Aug 31, 2005 at 06:22:26PM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 BUT whenever I tried to click on the “Edit” link to enter into the
 “mailing list administration”,
 http://mail.clhs.epcombb.org/mailman/admin/clhs_clhs.epcombb.org, an error
 page appear “The page cannot be displayed”. Can someone help me? Or there
 is NO way out at the moment so I can stop trying. Can we create mailing
 list for sub-domain?

Is your web server properly configured for subdomain?

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[Mailman-Users] preserve feature

2005-08-31 Thread Sean

Hi,

In mailman 2.1.5, when tending to held posts there is a 'Preserve messages
for the site administrator' option under the 'Action to take on all these
held messages.' If Accept, Reject, or Discard is selected the message gets
removed from the Administrative requests page.  Only if Defer is selected
does the message remain there.  Am I missing something as to the
functionality of the 'Preserve messages for the site administrator'
option?

Thanks,
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[Mailman-Users] max_num_recipients variable question

2005-08-31 Thread lkolchin
Hello All,
I have a question:
 
Does max_num_recipients = 10 in the default configuration of the list, means 
that when I'm posting to the list I can additionaly write only 9 e-mails along 
with the list address and no more? If I'm writing more than 10 e-mail addresses 
along with the list address it goes to list admin approval?
Is it for To Cc and Bcc alltogether?
 
Best Regards,
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[Mailman-Users] MIME mulitpart/mixed boundary re-arrangement causes digital signature to fail

2005-08-31 Thread Donald Wong
Is it possible to make mailman leave the entire content of a message 
with untouched (example, multipart MIME messages)

The Problem:
When trying to send a digitally signed (SSL cert) email to a Mailman 
list, using Mozilla Thunderbird in this case, the recipients on the list 
would see the signature as Not Valid.  We've pinpointed the problem to 
that Mailman would parse the entire email message and re-arrange the 
MIME header/content, thus rendering the signature invalid.  What Mailman 
would change is to strip the newline character that's in between 
Content-Type:... and boundary, as the Content-Type:multipart/mixed 
header with newline is added by Thunderbird when attaching a file 
attachment (including vcard).  While either having or not having the 
newline will conform to RFC MIME specifications(or so I was led to 
believe) thus making it a correct behaviour in that sense, it's 
definitely wrecking the signature.

Example:
Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=digitsdigits

I've also tried to test with Outlook Express and it would produce the 
same result.

So I think the easiest way to solve this is somehow configure Mailman to 
not rearrange the message while processing the message.

On the server side, we're using Mailman 2.1.5 on a Fedora Core 3 system, 
and the mailman rpm is the one built by redhat.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Server not connected in smtp-failure log

2005-08-31 Thread Mark Sapiro
Mike Hanby wrote:

Ok, I think I've found the solution, I didn't need to mess with the
SMTPHOST, since localhost works just fine.  I commented that line out of my
mm_cfg.py file.

The following was set in my Default.py file
   SMTPPORT = 0
I changed it to the following in my mm_cfg.py file
   SMTPPORT = 25

And now it looks as though it's working.  Wonder why it was set to 0 in the
Default file.


So in effect you've done nothing since SMTPPORT = 0 tells the python
smtplib to use its default SMTP port which is port 25.

It may be that this is a transient issue between Mailman and the MTA
causing the connection to drop.


-Original Message-
snip
My questions:
   1) do I need to do anything to get mailman to re-read mm_cfg.py?

bin/mailmanctl restart


   2) Will mailman re-attempt to deliver the email to this user or will
he have to wait for my next newsletter email? (remember this is an
E-Newsletter type list)

If the error is considered a temporary failure by SMTPDirect, it will
be automatically retried. If it is considered permanent, it is
treated as a bounce.

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[Mailman-Users] startup error in mailman

2005-08-31 Thread Sean Roe
Hi All,

I am getting the following error whenever I start up mailman:

mailman01:/var/lib/mailman/Mailman# ../bin/mailmanctl start
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File ../bin/mailmanctl, line 547, in ?
main()
  File ../bin/mailmanctl, line 366, in main
check_for_site_list()
  File ../bin/mailmanctl, line 276, in check_for_site_list
sitelist = MailList(sitelistname, lock=0)
  File /var/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 104, in __init__
self._memberadaptor = MysqlMemberships(self)
  File /var/lib/mailman/Mailman/MysqlMemberships.py, line 118, in __init__
self.cursor.execute (CREATE TABLE IF NOT EXISTS %s (
  File /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/MySQLdb/cursors.py, line 137, 
in execute
self.errorhandler(self, exc, value)
  File /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/MySQLdb/connections.py, line 
33, in defaulterrorhandler
raise errorclass, errorvalue
_mysql_exceptions.OperationalError: (1044, Access denied for user 
'web_site'@'192.168.%' to database 'mailman')
Exception exceptions.AttributeError: MysqlMemberships instance has no 
attribute 'conn' in bound method MysqlMemberships.__del__ of 
Mailman.MysqlMemberships.MysqlMemberships instance at 0x404645ec ignored

Mailman no longer starts at this point.

Nothing has changed that I am aware of, I have connected from the 
mailman server to the database server with the mysql client using the 
same username and password and was successful, so I am at a loss.  Any 
suggestions would be helpful.

Thanks,
Sean

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Re: [Mailman-Users] max_num_recipients variable question

2005-08-31 Thread John W. Baxter
On 8/31/05 7:46 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Does max_num_recipients = 10 in the default configuration of the list, means
 that when I'm posting to the list I can additionaly write only 9 e-mails along
 with the list address and no more? If I'm writing more than 10 e-mail
 addresses along with the list address it goes to list admin approval?
 Is it for To Cc and Bcc alltogether?

Generally, mailman won't learn of Bcc recipients (except itself).  [Some
mailers may still include the full Bcc header on Bcc copies of the message,
as the RFCs still allow, but Mailman quite possibly doesn't bother looking,
since that is rare.]

But yes, 10 recipients known to Mailman is the limit as set up by the
default value.  Personally, I prefer a setting of 1 (I hate broadcasting
addresses into a mailing list).

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Server not connected in smtp-failure log

2005-08-31 Thread Mike Hanby
Damn, you are right.  Although some of the emails did make it through after
I restarted mailman, looking in the smtp-error log shows that I'm still
getting Server not connected errors :-(

Shoot, anyone with Postfix (or another MTA) seen this problem?

-Original Message-
From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 11:11
To: Mike Hanby; mailman-users@python.org
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Server not connected in smtp-failure log

Mike Hanby wrote:

Ok, I think I've found the solution, I didn't need to mess with the
SMTPHOST, since localhost works just fine.  I commented that line out of my
mm_cfg.py file.

The following was set in my Default.py file
   SMTPPORT = 0
I changed it to the following in my mm_cfg.py file
   SMTPPORT = 25

And now it looks as though it's working.  Wonder why it was set to 0 in the
Default file.


So in effect you've done nothing since SMTPPORT = 0 tells the python
smtplib to use its default SMTP port which is port 25.

It may be that this is a transient issue between Mailman and the MTA
causing the connection to drop.


-Original Message-
snip
My questions:
   1) do I need to do anything to get mailman to re-read mm_cfg.py?

bin/mailmanctl restart


   2) Will mailman re-attempt to deliver the email to this user or will
he have to wait for my next newsletter email? (remember this is an
E-Newsletter type list)

If the error is considered a temporary failure by SMTPDirect, it will
be automatically retried. If it is considered permanent, it is
treated as a bounce.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] MIME mulitpart/mixed boundary re-arrangement causes digital signature to fail

2005-08-31 Thread Brad Knowles
At 8:33 AM -0700 2005-08-31, Donald Wong wrote:

  The Problem:
  When trying to send a digitally signed (SSL cert) email to a Mailman
  list, using Mozilla Thunderbird in this case, the recipients on the list
  would see the signature as Not Valid.

This is a known problem.  See 
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=1085651group_id=103atid=100103.

  So I think the easiest way to solve this is somehow configure Mailman to
  not rearrange the message while processing the message.

This is not a bug in Mailman.  This is a known bug in Python.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] MIME mulitpart/mixed boundary re-arrangement causes digital signature to fail

2005-08-31 Thread Brad Knowles
At 8:20 PM +0200 2005-08-31, Brad Knowles wrote:

  At 8:33 AM -0700 2005-08-31, Donald Wong wrote:

   The Problem:
   When trying to send a digitally signed (SSL cert) email to a Mailman
   list, using Mozilla Thunderbird in this case, the recipients on the list
   would see the signature as Not Valid.

   This is a known problem.  See
 
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=1085651group_id=103atid=100103.

BTW, Python 2.4 is known to have an improved message handler 
module, and although I haven't confirmed this myself, I would not be 
surprised if this problem wasn't resolved by upgrading Python.

At the very least, you should check it out.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] startup error in mailman

2005-08-31 Thread Sean Roe
Figured it out.  The user connecting to the mysql database did not have 
create rights, so it was failing to create the default table.

Thanks,
Sean

Sean Roe wrote:

Hi All,

I am getting the following error whenever I start up mailman:

mailman01:/var/lib/mailman/Mailman# ../bin/mailmanctl start
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File ../bin/mailmanctl, line 547, in ?
main()
  File ../bin/mailmanctl, line 366, in main
check_for_site_list()
  File ../bin/mailmanctl, line 276, in check_for_site_list
sitelist = MailList(sitelistname, lock=0)
  File /var/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 104, in __init__
self._memberadaptor = MysqlMemberships(self)
  File /var/lib/mailman/Mailman/MysqlMemberships.py, line 118, in __init__
self.cursor.execute (CREATE TABLE IF NOT EXISTS %s (
  File /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/MySQLdb/cursors.py, line 137, 
in execute
self.errorhandler(self, exc, value)
  File /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/MySQLdb/connections.py, line 
33, in defaulterrorhandler
raise errorclass, errorvalue
_mysql_exceptions.OperationalError: (1044, Access denied for user 
'web_site'@'192.168.%' to database 'mailman')
Exception exceptions.AttributeError: MysqlMemberships instance has no 
attribute 'conn' in bound method MysqlMemberships.__del__ of 
Mailman.MysqlMemberships.MysqlMemberships instance at 0x404645ec ignored

Mailman no longer starts at this point.

Nothing has changed that I am aware of, I have connected from the 
mailman server to the database server with the mysql client using the 
same username and password and was successful, so I am at a loss.  Any 
suggestions would be helpful.

Thanks,
Sean

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Emails coming through as maillist-bounces - is this normal?

2005-08-31 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
 memmott == memmott  @ HitCatcher.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

memmott A client of ours has a mailman list set up called
memmott [EMAIL PROTECTED] For some reason, when anybody posts to
memmott this list, the return address of the list comes across as
memmott [EMAIL PROTECTED]
memmott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of firstname
memmott lastname

AFAIK this is an Outlook-specific bug, and not a Mailman issue.  What
is happening is that Outlook is ignoring the From header and using
either the Sender header or the envelope sender as the return
address.  This is in violation of the Internet standards for mail
clients.

I realize that it's hard to get users to change their mail clients,
but that is the right solution to this problem.

memmott Anyways, is this the default behavior/ Is there any way
memmott to force it to send out emails as [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
memmott not awake-bounces?

Mailman does not send out mail as itself in the default
configuration; it simply forwards the mail and leaves the author's
address in place.  However, because it is sending mail to many
addresses which may or may not be valid, it lists itself as the
Sender so that delivery problems will be referred to Mailman, and
not to the author.

It is not possible to configure Mailman to use a different Sender.
This is to protect your list from being spammed by returns of
undeliverable mail.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] max_num_recipients variable question

2005-08-31 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
 John == John W Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

John But yes, 10 recipients known to Mailman is the limit as set
John up by the default value.  Personally, I prefer a setting of
John 1 (I hate broadcasting addresses into a mailing list).

Does that actually work?  Although 10 is too many (I don't think I've
ever seen a non-spam/troll with more than 5 including the list on the
lists I manage), most of the lists I manage have occasional valid
reasons for cross-posting or adding non-member recipients.  I would
think the inconvenience would be greater with restriction to 1.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Error during mailman runs

2005-08-31 Thread Mark Sapiro
Sean Roe wrote:

Mark Sapiro wrote:

Sean Roe wrote:
  

I am getting the following errors durring mailman runs:

mailman01:/var/lib/mailman/qfiles/out# Traceback (most recent call last):
 File /var/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner, line 270, in ?
   main()
 File /var/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner, line 230, in main
   qrunner.run()
 File /var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 87, in run
   self._cleanup()
 File /var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/BounceRunner.py, line 220, in 
_cleanup
   BounceMixin._cleanup(self)
 File /var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/BounceRunner.py, line 132, in 
_cleanup
   self._register_bounces()
 File /var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/BounceRunner.py, line 120, in 
_register_bounces
   mlist.registerBounce(addr, msg, day=day)
 File /var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Bouncer.py, line 108, in registerBounce
   info = self.getBounceInfo(member)
 File /var/lib/mailman/Mailman/MysqlMemberships.py, line 530, in 
getBounceInfo
   row[2], row[0])
TypeError: __init__() takes exactly 5 arguments (6 given)


What does this mean?




It appears to be saying that the MysqlMemberships.py member adaptor
that you have installed is not compatible with your version of Mailman.

What Mailman version do you have?

What version of MysqlMemberships.py do you have (latest is 1.61,
2005-07-27)? See
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=839386group_id=103atid=300103
and/or http://www.orenet.co.uk/opensource/

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I am using 1.61 per the revision number on the file:
Kev Green, oRe Net (http://www.orenet.co.uk/), 2003/11/04
$Revision: 1.61 $

and the mailman version is via version in bin:
mailman01:/var/lib/mailman/bin# ./version
Using Mailman version: 2.1.6


Is there some sort of issue with spammers?  It doesn't happen all the 
time.  There appears to be no rhyme or reason for it.

The number of arguments to __init__ in the _BounceInfo class changed
from 6 to 5 in Mailman 2.1.4. It looks like the MysqlMemberships.py
member adaptor getBounceInfo() method is not compatible with Mailman
versions newer than 2.1.3.

This error doesn't occur all the time because getBounceInfo() only
instantiates a _BounceInfo object when it is asked to return existing
bounce info which is only when a bounce is being processed for a
member with prior bounces.

I suggest you take this up with the author/provider of the
MysqlMemberships.py member adaptor. 

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