Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-Users off list] New mailman user
On 6 Sep 2005 at 18:49, Mark Sapiro wrote: I think if you just remove the setgid bit from the wrappers in cgi-bin, your web interface will work again. This will not solve the original problem which I think is a Mailman/Exim integration issue. Hi Mark, I really appreciate your continued advice to a mailman novice. I ran chmod =rwx,g-s * in the mailman/cgi-bin directory then chmod 775 * but this made no difference to the web interface - still generating the error so presumably the suexec is still relevant. Interestingly if I run, for example, the admin wrapper from the shell all the HTML is displayed on the shell screen. Most frustrating! Andrew -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Digest flag in membership list? ...
A disclaimer: I realize our implementation is not at all what was intended for typical Mailman usage, but ... We have lists where: * the subscribers don't know their individual passwords for Web access * the subscribers don't have Web access to Mailman subscription features * we (the admins) manually control whether subscribers get to use digest mode, based on their e-mail requests The lists are set up this way because this is the main campus-wide alert/announcement system for e-mail, so we want to guarantee that everyone is SUPPOSED to get every message sent to these lists. OK, so here's the kicker. Based on a somewhat transient user population (we regularly lose and add a small fraction of students, and sometimes even employees), we've developed an external script to regularly cross-check the current subscriber list and then update it with subscriber additions and removals as necessary. Unfortunately, when the lists are refreshed, all individual subscriber parameters (like digest mode) are wiped out to their defaults. So my question is: Is there some sort of flag associated with each subscriber entry that indicates digest usage, that we should be sure not to touch during the list refresh? Or, to put it more broadly, how would you suggest doing backend (non-subscriber) list maintenance that doesn't impact individual subscriber preferences? Thanks, Jason _ Jason LaMar Interim Director of Information Services Libraries and Information Services Ohio Wesleyan University; Delaware, OH 43015 Tel: 740-368-3131, Fax: 740-368-3272, Web: http://www.owu.edu/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest flag in membership list? ...
Jason LaMar wrote: OK, so here's the kicker. Based on a somewhat transient user population (we regularly lose and add a small fraction of students, and sometimes even employees), we've developed an external script to regularly cross-check the current subscriber list and then update it with subscriber additions and removals as necessary. Unfortunately, when the lists are refreshed, all individual subscriber parameters (like digest mode) are wiped out to their defaults. So my question is: Is there some sort of flag associated with each subscriber entry that indicates digest usage, that we should be sure not to touch during the list refresh? Or, to put it more broadly, how would you suggest doing backend (non-subscriber) list maintenance that doesn't impact individual subscriber preferences? Are you scripting the web interface and doing mass adds and removals or are you directly calling the Python methods? If the former, any mass subscribed users will get digests or not depending on the value of the list attribute digest_is_default at the time. If the latter, look at Mailman/OldStyleMemberships.py. In particular, the methods getRegularMemberKeys() and getDigestMemberKeys() for getting non-digest and digest member lists, and the addNewMember() method which takes arguments of the form 'digest=yes|no'. Also see the setMemberOption() method. Note that if existing members have their digest setting changed by your script, I think you must be deleting and readding them. Note also, that unlike other user settings, 'digests' is not a flag - it's implemented internally via separate lists for regular and digest members. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] MS entourage smart quotes
Hi, Has anyone using mailman 2.1.x experienced problems with MS smart quotes not rending correctly in list posts? I've got a list user using Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.0.2418. Any apostrophes show up as a 1 like so: the city that really ruled everything. Kel¹s company paid Thanks, Sean -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] OverflowError: long int too large to convert to int
Hello list, I wasn't able to find any workable solution for the following problem. BTW: the gnu.org guys seem to have a similar problem. Just have a look at the archives of the mailman list. Some lists are no longer (worked before - no configuration or software update occured) delivered. All messages are shunted. The errorlog says the following: [...] OverflowError: long int too large to convert to int Sep 07 17:29:51 2005 (26676) SHUNTING: 1126101607.0405271+753bd030bc66483e3e04217efb7ca1ed6d944a92 Sep 07 20:00:08 2005 (26676) Uncaught runner exception: long int too large to convert to int Sep 07 20:00:08 2005 (26676) Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 111, in _oneloop self._onefile(msg, msgdata) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 167, in _onefile keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py, line 130, in _dispose more = self._dopipeline(mlist, msg, msgdata, pipeline) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py, line 153, in _dopipeline sys.modules[modname].process(mlist, msg, msgdata) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py, line 91, in process send_digests(mlist, mboxfp) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py, line 132, in send_digests send_i18n_digests(mlist, mboxfp) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py, line 306, in send_i18n_digests msg = scrubber(mlist, msg) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Scrubber.py, line 170, in process dir = calculate_attachments_dir(mlist, msg, msgdata) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Scrubber.py, line 131, in calculate_attachments_dir datedir = safe_strftime(fmt, now) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Scrubber.py, line 115, in safe_strftime return time.strftime(fmt, floatsecs) OverflowError: long int too large to convert to int Sep 07 20:00:08 2005 (26676) SHUNTING: 1126116005.4532559+6adb036804dde89bc6ccf0e0d805165055f34e49 [...] We're using python-2.3.5 and mailman-2.1.5-r4 (the r4 comes from the gentoo ebuild). Thank you very much for every reaction (and be it a RTFM with URL!). Marcel -- Marcel Meyer | Netzwerk- und Rechnerorganisation | Fachschaft Mathematik/Physik/Informatik | Technische Universität München pgpONHavGvusc.pgp Description: PGP signature -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Hiding footer message?
Hi all, I am running mailman 2.1.4 on a SUSE linux Enterprsie 9.0 server and I can;t find any option to hide the footer message that is on each mailing list message. It looks like by default the footer is the list name, the list address, and the URL. Is there a way to hide this? I do not want any info showing up in the footer. I saw there was an option to make a custom footer for digest messages and this overrides the default. Does this option cover normal messages? I am not creating any digests. Thank you. Trevor Cullingsworth -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Hiding footer message?
At 2:00 PM -0700 2005-09-07, Trevor Cullingsworth wrote: I am running mailman 2.1.4 on a SUSE linux Enterprsie 9.0 server and I can;t find any option to hide the footer message that is on each mailing list message. It looks like by default the footer is the list name, the list address, and the URL. Is there a way to hide this? Go to the web admin page for the list. Go to the section where it allows you to customize the footer. Select all the text in that box, then hit the Delete or Backspace key. Click on the button at the bottom of the page that says Save Your Changes (or whatever). -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Hiding footer message?
Thanks Dan and Brad! Time to go get my eyes checked. I completely overlooked that option setting. I should have paid attention to what I was reading. hehe. Sorry about that. Thanks again. Trevor Cullingsworth Brad Knowles wrote: At 2:00 PM -0700 2005-09-07, Trevor Cullingsworth wrote: I am running mailman 2.1.4 on a SUSE linux Enterprsie 9.0 server and I can;t find any option to hide the footer message that is on each mailing list message. It looks like by default the footer is the list name, the list address, and the URL. Is there a way to hide this? Go to the web admin page for the list. Go to the section where it allows you to customize the footer. Select all the text in that box, then hit the Delete or Backspace key. Click on the button at the bottom of the page that says Save Your Changes (or whatever). -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] unknown user
Hello community could you help me with this, i have created a list in mailman web interface, but i send a message to the list, and is not delivered, it is returning to me unknown user what is the step after being created the list? thank you very much. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] unknown user
I'm a beginner with Mailman, so I could be wrong, but I was getting this sort of error until I confirmed my aliases were being created correctly. I changed MTAs to Postfix and followed the directions in the Mailman manual or readme, to make the aliases autocreate when you create a list via the web. Hope this serves as a hint. Regards, Rick Cogley Tokyo, Japan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hugo Osorio Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 7:57 AM To: mailman-users@python.org Subject: [Mailman-Users] unknown user Hello community could you help me with this, i have created a list in mailman web interface, but i send a message to the list, and is not delivered, it is returning to me unknown user what is the step after being created the list? thank you very much. -- -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] OverflowError: long int too large to convert to int
Marcel Meyer wrote: Some lists are no longer (worked before - no configuration or software update occured) delivered. All messages are shunted. The errorlog says the following: [...] OverflowError: long int too large to convert to int File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Scrubber.py, line 131, in calculate_attachments_dir datedir = safe_strftime(fmt, now) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Scrubber.py, line 115, in safe_strftime return time.strftime(fmt, floatsecs) OverflowError: long int too large to convert to int Looks like we need this patch: Index: Scrubber.py === RCS file: /cvsroot/mailman/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Scrubber.py,v retrieving revision 2.27 diff -u -r2.27 Scrubber.py --- Scrubber.py 28 Aug 2005 05:31:27 - 2.27 +++ Scrubber.py 7 Sep 2005 23:40:33 - @@ -113,7 +113,7 @@ def safe_strftime(fmt, floatsecs): try: return time.strftime(fmt, floatsecs) -except (TypeError, ValueError): +except (TypeError, ValueError, OverflowError): return None - -- Tokio Kikuchi, tkikuchi@ is.kochi-u.ac.jp http://weather.is.kochi-u.ac.jp/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Mailman and utf8
Hello guys, sorry if I missed something in the docs... I recently changed my system to use utf8 encoding and get now strange signs in the maillinglist archives for non US-ASCII letters linke ä,ö,ü,ß and so on. Is there a parameter to tell pipermail to use utf8 encoding for the web archive? Or at least the encoding of the mail itself (although this would obviously be more difficult to do...)? TIA, Best regards Jan -- OpenPGP Public-Key Fingerprint: 0E9B 4052 C661 5018 93C3 4E46 651A 7A28 4028 FF7A pgpcHpslKBPOD.pgp Description: PGP signature -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Topics Help.
If anyone has used TOPICS successfully and cleverly, please let me know. I'd appreciate examples! I tried setting it up and I don't understand how it works. You can enter the topic name, but I don't see how you allow users to subscribe to different topics. Any help the community can give will be greatly appreciated! Thanks, Jonathan http://www.mships.com check it out! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] OverflowError: long int too large to convertto int
Tokio Kikuchi wrote: Marcel Meyer wrote: Some lists are no longer (worked before - no configuration or software update occured) delivered. All messages are shunted. The errorlog says the following: [...] OverflowError: long int too large to convert to int File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Scrubber.py, line 131, in calculate_attachments_dir datedir = safe_strftime(fmt, now) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Scrubber.py, line 115, in safe_strftime return time.strftime(fmt, floatsecs) OverflowError: long int too large to convert to int Looks like we need this patch: Index: Scrubber.py === RCS file: /cvsroot/mailman/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Scrubber.py,v retrieving revision 2.27 diff -u -r2.27 Scrubber.py --- Scrubber.py 28 Aug 2005 05:31:27 - 2.27 +++ Scrubber.py 7 Sep 2005 23:40:33 - @@ -113,7 +113,7 @@ def safe_strftime(fmt, floatsecs): try: return time.strftime(fmt, floatsecs) -except (TypeError, ValueError): +except (TypeError, ValueError, OverflowError): return None As Tokio says, I think the patch will fix this, but I think the underlying cause may be a message in the lists/listname/digest.mbox file with a bad date or date format in it's Date: header. Editing this or moving the digest.mbox aside may allow the list to resume processing and then 'bin/unshunt' will reprocess the shunted messages. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce Processing Problems
At 11:35 AM -0400 2005-09-01, Paul Rubin wrote: Since about 12/2004 The bounce processor consumes most of the memory in the system and sometimes all of the CPU. One thing was just brought to my attention -- you didn't mention in this post whether or not you were looking for help from consultants. Unfortunately, I don't have the free time to do that right now, and I know that the Python hosting lists at http://wiki.python.org/moin/SpecializedCommercialHosts and http://wiki.python.org/moin/OtherCommercialHosts may not seem that obvious to you, but you might want to check there for companies that might do both hosting and consulting. I looked through the lists and didn't see anything obvious, but you never know what they might be willing to do for you unless you check them out. The Python Business Forum (see http://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonBusinessForumOpenSpace) might also be useful to you, and they might have lists of consultants that they've worked with in the past, etc Alternatively, I think there might very well be a few people on this list who may be able to provide additional assistance as a consultant, but you'd probably need to indicate an interest to them before you'd be likely to find out whether or not they would be willing/interested to do that. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] finding the options and so on
I've noticed that a fair number of the questions and answers on this list follow the pattern Q: How do I do X? A: Look in Q: Aha! Thanks, I didn't know it was there. And as an owner of a number of lists, though not a sysadmin, I've fairly often had the experience of Now, where the heck was that feature the last time I used it? ... Not there... it's not there either... OK, let's go through the option pages one by one. ... ... ... Oh, THERE you are, you little devil! One way to solve this problem would be an index. Another would be a wiki. What do other listmembers think? -- Mark A. Mandel Linguistic Data Consortium, University of Pennsylvania -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and utf8
Jan Kohnert wrote:
Is there a parameter to tell pipermail to use utf8 encoding for the web
archive? Or at least the encoding of the mail itself (although this would
obviously be more difficult to do...)?
There is an LC_DESCRIPTIONS dictionary that has an entry for each
Mailman supported language giving the language name and character set.
Look at the end of Defaults.py.
You can put something like
def _(s):
return s
add_language('en',_('English (USA)'), 'utf-8')
del _
in mm_cfg.py. The above would change the character set for US English
from the default us-ascii to utf-8. Note that since you are in this
example giving new values to LC_DESCRIPTIONS[en], this overrides the
entry in Defaults.py.
--
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San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan
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