Re: [Mailman-Users] "bounce" message from misconfigured mail host(s) [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Returned mail: User unknown]
At 5:48 PM +0200 2005-10-26, Hannah Schroeter wrote: > I'm getting "bounces" like this from a misconfigured site which bounces > to the header From instead of the envelope from. > > Perhaps that recipient should just be removed from the list? > > The "bounce" has envelope from >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >(should be empty!) > header from >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > and stems from >[193.74.71.21] (helo=xizor.is.scarlet.be) >(helo matches the reverse-mapping of the IP, double reverse check >matches) This user has already been removed from the list. The problem is at tiscali.be, but we're not going to wait for them to get their system fixed. In the future, please report these kinds of problems to [EMAIL PROTECTED], or [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Brad Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Python.org Postmaster Team -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help!
Jim & Marlowe Futrell wrote: > >We use this software and continue to get the following error message (see >below). Is there anything that can be adjusted in order to send larger >messages? Also, we can not send messages with attached files. What can we do >to rectify this situation? Are you the list admin or just a member of the list? If you are the list admin, you can adjust the maximum allowable message size on the list's General Options page. If not, you can discuss this with the list owner or as another reply suggests, you can put large things on a web site and just post URLs to the list. If the attached file problem is because posts with attached files are too big, see the previous paragraph. If it is because the attachments are being stripped out, see the list's Content filtering page or discuss this with the list owner. -- Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help!
On Wed, 2005-10-26 at 10:55 -0700, Jim & Marlowe Futrell wrote: [...] > We use this software and continue to get the following error message > (see below). Is there anything that can be adjusted in order to send > larger messages? Yes. > Also, we can not send messages with attached files. What can we do > to rectify this situation? Set the limit for emails higher (or put the large attacjments on a Webserver and mail the URL). [...] > Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. > > The reason it is being held: > > Message body is too big: 50802 bytes with a limit of 40 KB What may this message mean? Bernd -- Firmix Software GmbH http://www.firmix.at/ mobil: +43 664 4416156 fax: +43 1 7890849-55 Embedded Linux Development and Services -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Help!
Hi, We use this software and continue to get the following error message (see below). Is there anything that can be adjusted in order to send larger messages? Also, we can not send messages with attached files. What can we do to rectify this situation? Sincerely, Marlowe Futrell ___ Your mail to 'NAPHAstaff' with the subject FW: [Naphastaff] RE: San Filippo event Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. The reason it is being held: Message body is too big: 50802 bytes with a limit of 40 KB Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive notification of the moderator's decision. If you would like to cancel this posting, please visit the following URL: http://napha.org/mailman/confirm/naphastaff_napha.org/72586148b76afd1cdd2af6 ba8e6e4ea8e77e377e Outgoing mail is Virus Scanned byNorman Data Defense.Inbound Spam reduced 98.2% byVircom Sieve. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Posting problems to all users of our mailing list...
John W. Baxter wrote: > Note that it's not just the ISP. We regularly get support calls about mail > not being received, when the logs clearly show that the message was > deposited into the user's mailbox and later picked up by the user's machine. > Something on the user's machine (our users primarily run Windows of some > vintage) has filed, dropped, or done whatever to the message. I have found that in most such cases it's PEBKAC. jc -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Posting problems to all users of our mailing list...
On 10/25/05 8:09 PM, "Mark Sapiro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ISPs do lots of things with mail besides delivering it or rejecting it. > Some ISPs will just silently discard mail they don't like. Thus in > these cases, you won't see a bounce and the recipient won't see the > mail and the ISP may not admit that this has happened. ISPs tend to > think that it's to their advantage to protect their users from spam > even if it means discarding some desired mail. The above is part of the destruction of email that the spammers have accomplished. Note that it's not just the ISP. We regularly get support calls about mail not being received, when the logs clearly show that the message was deposited into the user's mailbox and later picked up by the user's machine. Something on the user's machine (our users primarily run Windows of some vintage) has filed, dropped, or done whatever to the message. --John -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] "bounce" message from misconfigured mail host(s) [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Returned mail: User unknown]
Hello! I'm getting "bounces" like this from a misconfigured site which bounces to the header From instead of the envelope from. Perhaps that recipient should just be removed from the list? The "bounce" has envelope from [EMAIL PROTECTED] (should be empty!) header from [EMAIL PROTECTED] and stems from [193.74.71.21] (helo=xizor.is.scarlet.be) (helo matches the reverse-mapping of the IP, double reverse check matches) Its received lines seem to be echoed from the original mail (bad!). The upmost received lines from the original mail are: Received: from (smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.30]) by fundy.is.scarlet.be with ESMTP id j9NJNaoW011305 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 21:23:36 +0200 Received: from bag.python.org (bag.python.org [194.109.207.14]) by smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9NJNV5u040983 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 21:23:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Received: from bag.python.org (bag [127.0.0.1]) by bag.python.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0E2B1E411D for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 21:23:14 +0200 (CEST) So something at or after smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl or fundy.is.scarlet.be is heavily misconfigured. Please fix this (CC is set to people who could be responsible): DSNs should have an empty (null) envelope sender and should be sent *only* to the envelope sender of the original message, the header (From/Reply-To) should never be evaluated for creating DSNs/bounces. Kind regards, Hannah. - Forwarded message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Hannah Schroeter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 17:38:30 +0200 Subject: Returned mail: User unknown The original message was received at 2005-10-26 17:34:24 +0200 from postoffice.local [10.0.0.1] - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -Transcript of session follows - ... while talking to postoffice.local.: >>> RCPT To:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <<< 550 5.1.1 unknown or illegal alias: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 550 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... User unknown Reporting-MTA: dns; postoffice.local Received-From-MTA: DNS; postoffice.local Arrival-Date: 2005-10-26 17:34:24 +0200 Final-Recipient: RFC822; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Action: failed Status: 5.1.1 Remote-MTA: DNS; postoffice.local Diagnostic-Code: SMTP;550 5.1.1 unknown or illegal alias: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Last-Attempt-Date: 2005-10-26 17:34:24 +0200 From: Hannah Schroeter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: mailman-users@python.org Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 21:23:00 +0200 Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Disable Subscriptions/Unsubscriptions Hello! On Sun, Oct 23, 2005 at 09:11:00PM +0200, Bernd Petrovitsch wrote: >Hi all! >Is there a possibility to disable the member subscription/unsubscription >through the web interface? >The list-members are added and removed with a script which is fed from a >DB so there is no point in self-subscription. I don't know whether there's a specific knob in mailman itself, but you could either just not publish the list info address at all, or deny access to it, using appropriate web server configuration (access control or rewrite rules to show explanatory text instead). > Bernd Kind regards, Hannah. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jjbl3213%40tiscali.be Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp - End forwarded message - -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
