Re: [Mailman-Users] name of my mailing-list adress ...
> This is a problem with aliases or with your postfix configuration. You > should not have a local user starinux. > See http://www.list.org/mailman-install/node12.html and it's > subordinate links for more information. * * * I will see about those informations. How to delete a mailing-list in Mailman ? See you. antoine -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Setting up an archive list
Mark, Jared Thanks for the suggestions - they worked perfectly. The setup now works just as I wanted it to. Many thanks Horse Jared Rimer wrote: > Horse, > Go to privacy, I don't remember if its sender or recipient > and turn off implicit destination. Mark Sapiro wrote: > Horse wrote: > >> I post to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and the post goes out to all members including [EMAIL PROTECTED] but there it gets held for approval by the list admin (i.e. me). The reason given is: >> >> "Blind carbon copies or other implicit destinations are not allowed. Try >> reposting your message by explicitly including the list address in the To: or Cc: fields." > > > > > In the list configuration for the archive list on, Privacy > options...->Recipient filters, put [EMAIL PROTECTED] in acceptable_aliases. > You could also just set require_explicit_destination Off, but the > alias is better. > > Also, on the subscription options for the [EMAIL PROTECTED] subscription > to the main list, be sure to set "Get password reminder email for this > list?" to No. > -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] name of my mailing-list adress ...
> This is a problem with aliases or with your postfix configuration. You > should not have a local user starinux. > See http://www.list.org/mailman-install/node12.html and it's > subordinate links for more information. * * * I check everything, the help above and always this : <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: unknown user: "starinux" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: is the Email adress of the list "starinux" I don't have a user "starinux" What happens ... ? thanks . antoine -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] mailman post mailman". Command output: Group mismatch error
Hallo, How to repair this error ? : * * * <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Command died with status 2: "/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman". Command output: Group mismatch error. Mailman expected the mail wrapper script to be executed as group "daemon", but the system's mail server executed the mail script as group "users". Try tweaking the mail server to run the script as group "daemon", or re-run configure, providing the command line option `--with-mail-gid=users'. * * * Thanks ! antoine -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] name of my mailing-list adress ...
On Saturday 29 October 2005 03:01 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > This is a problem with aliases or with your postfix configuration. You > > should not have a local user starinux. > > See http://www.list.org/mailman-install/node12.html and it's > > subordinate links for more information. > > * * * > > I check everything, the help above and always this : > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: unknown user: "starinux" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: is the Email adress of the list "starinux" > > I don't have a user "starinux" > > What happens ... ? Which distribution are you using. This may be that same problem I have. > > thanks . > > antoine > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > Mailman-Users@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/thomas%40btspuhler.com > > Security Policy: > http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp -- Best regards Thomas Spuhler All e-mail from this domain is scanned for viruses -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] name of my mailing-list adress ...
> > I check everything, the help above and always this : > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: unknown user: "starinux" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: is the Email adress of the list "starinux" > > I don't have a user "starinux" > > What happens ... ? *** > Which distribution are you using. This may be that same problem I have. * * * Version : 2.1.5 bugs with this one ? antoine -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman post mailman". Command output: Group mismatch error
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hallo, > > How to repair this error ? : > * * * > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Command died with status 2: > "/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman". Command output: Group > mismatch error. Mailman expected the mail wrapper script to be executed > as > group "daemon", but the system's mail server executed the mail script as > group "users". Try tweaking the mail server to run the script as group > "daemon", or re-run configure, providing the command line option > `--with-mail-gid=users'. > I think you should try tweaking the mail server to run the script as group "daemon". Or re-run configure, providing the command line option `--with-mail-gid=users'. But that's just a guess. (Well, not really a guess.) You could also go to the mailman FAQ (following the link in the footer of every email you receive from this list) and search on: group mismatch Which finds 2 FAQ entries that explain this issue in greater detail. Use the FAQ, Antoine. :-) jc -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman post mailman". Command output: Group mismatch error
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Command died with status 2: > > "/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman". Command output: Group > > mismatch error. Mailman expected the mail wrapper script to be > > executed as > > group "daemon", but the system's mail server executed the mail script as > > group "users". Try tweaking the mail server to run the script as group > > "daemon", or re-run configure, providing the command line option > > `--with-mail-gid=users'. *** > > Use the FAQ, Antoine. :-) > group mismatch > Which finds 2 FAQ entries that explain this issue in greater detail. you are right ... :-) and I will go on the FAQ > I think you should try tweaking the mail server to run the script as > group "daemon". > Or re-run configure, providing the command line option >`--with-mail-gid=users'. it's because I tried with "# chown root:daemon wrapper" => does not work , same error message above But a good new for me, I succeed : /etc/postfix/main.cf => I changed : alias_maps = hash:/var/lib/mailman/data/aliases and now works fine ! (it came from "postfix") Thanks JC ! antoine -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] name of my mailing-list adress ...
On Saturday 29 October 2005 08:44 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > I check everything, the help above and always this : > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: unknown user: "starinux" > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: is the Email adress of the list "starinux" > > > I don't have a user "starinux" > > > What happens ... ? > > *** > > > Which distribution are you using. This may be that same problem I have. > > * * * > > Version : 2.1.5 I have Ver. 2.1.6 > > bugs with this one ? I mean which linux distribution (SUSE, Mandriva, Fedora...) I am using Mandriva 2006. It worked in 2005Le. > > antoine > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > Mailman-Users@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/thomas%40btspuhler.com > > Security Policy: > http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp -- Best regards Thomas Spuhler All e-mail from this domain is scanned for viruses -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] name of my mailing-list adress ...
> > > Which distribution are you using. This may be that same problem I have. > > Version : 2.1.5 > I have Ver. 2.1.6 > > bugs with this one ? > I mean which linux distribution (SUSE, Mandriva, Fedora...) > I am using Mandriva 2006. It worked in 2005Le. * * * I'm on Debian-Sarge. now, as I said on this ML, it works fine, but some bugs with the navigator mode, better to use the console mode. When I add a ML list with the navigator : "http://rezoperso.net/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/"; my lists does not appear ... with the console and command : "# listnew ..." it's ok my lists appears ... is it a bug ? antoine -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] mailman keeps going down
Hello, wondering where we can find any log that let us know why mailman is going down often, i did search in the logs and find : Oct 29 00:44:22 2005 (2108) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 22079, sig: None, sts: 1, class: VirginRunner, slice: 1/1) [restarting] Oct 29 00:44:22 2005 (2108) Qrunner VirginRunner reached maximum restart limit of 10, not restarting. Oct 29 01:47:15 2005 (5861) RetryRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM. Stopping. Oct 29 01:47:15 2005 (5856) CommandRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM. Stopping. Oct 29 01:47:15 2005 (5858) NewsRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM. Stopping. Oct 29 01:47:15 2005 (5861) RetryRunner qrunner exiting. Oct 29 01:47:15 2005 (5856) CommandRunner qrunner exiting. Oct 29 01:47:15 2005 (5858) NewsRunner qrunner exiting. Oct 29 01:47:15 2005 (22117) VirginRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM. Stopping. Oct 29 01:47:15 2005 (22117) VirginRunner qrunner exiting. Oct 29 01:47:15 2005 (29169) OutgoingRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM. Stopping. Oct 29 01:47:15 2005 (29169) OutgoingRunner qrunner exiting. Oct 29 20:51:03 2005 (11801) ArchRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM. Stopping. Oct 29 20:51:03 2005 (11492) IncomingRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM. Stopping. Oct 29 20:51:03 2005 (11801) ArchRunner qrunner exiting. Oct 29 20:51:03 2005 (21057) BounceRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM. Stopping. Oct 29 20:51:03 2005 (11492) IncomingRunner qrunner exiting. Oct 29 20:51:03 2005 (21057) BounceRunner qrunner exiting. Oct 29 20:51:03 2005 (2108) Master watcher caught SIGTERM. Exiting. Oct 29 20:51:04 2005 (2108) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 11492, sig: None, sts: 15, class: IncomingRunner, slice: 1/1) Oct 29 20:51:04 2005 (2108) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 21057, sig: None, sts: 15, class: BounceRunner, slice: 1/1) Oct 29 20:51:04 2005 (2108) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 11801, sig: None, sts: 15, class: ArchRunner, slice: 1/1) any other way to see why this going down? thank you in advance! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] MemoryError
I am getting the following error with mailman 2.1.6, red-hat. It started to occur while a customer was importing a new set of email adresss into their mailinglist. They can login to the webadmin, but when they click on "Membership" they get the "Weve Hit A Bug" message. This is what I see in the error.log I have searched around for what it could be, but cant find anything on this specific problem admin(7105): MemoryError admin(7105): [- Python Information -] admin(7105): sys.version = 2.2.3 (#1, Feb 2 2005, 12:20:51) [GCC 3.2.3 20030502 (Red Hat Linux 3.2.3-49)] admin(7105): sys.executable = /usr/bin/python admin(7105): sys.prefix = /usr admin(7105): sys.exec_prefix = /usr admin(7105): sys.path= /usr admin(7105): sys.platform= linux2 admin(7105): [- Environment Variables -] admin(7105):HTTP_COOKIE: newsletters_procapperschallenge.com+admin=2802006910f263437328003761 316139346239656165653537633762363363306230$ admin(7105):SERVER_SOFTWARE: Apache/1.3.33 (Unix) mod_auth_passthrough/1.8 mod_log_bytes/1.2 mod_bwlimited/1.4 PHP/4.3.11 FrontPage/5.0.2.2635 $ admin(7105):PYTHONPATH: /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman admin(7105):SCRIPT_FILENAME: /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/cgi-bin/admin admin(7105):SERVER_ADMIN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] admin(7105):SCRIPT_NAME: /mailman/admin admin(7105):REQUEST_METHOD: GET admin(7105):HTTP_HOST: procapperschallenge.com admin(7105):PATH_INFO: /newsletters_procapperschallenge.com/members admin(7105):SERVER_PROTOCOL: HTTP/1.1 admin(7105):QUERY_STRING: admin(7105):REQUEST_URI: /mailman/admin/newsletters_procapperschallenge.com/members admin(7105):HTTP_ACCEPT: image/gif, image/x-xbitmap, image/jpeg, image/pjpeg, application/x-shockwave-flash, application/vnd.ms-powerpoint, app$ admin(7105):HTTP_USER_AGENT: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 1.0.3705) admin(7105):HTTP_CONNECTION: Keep-Alive admin(7105):HTTP_REFERER: http://procapperschallenge.com/mailman/admin/newsletters_procapperschallenge .com admin(7105):SERVER_NAME: www.professionalcapperschallenge.com admin(7105):REMOTE_ADDR: 67.184.23.240 admin(7105):REMOTE_PORT: 33760 admin(7105):HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE: en-us admin(7105):PATH_TRANSLATED: /home/dpage/public_html/newsletters_procapperschallenge.com/members admin(7105):SERVER_PORT: 80 admin(7105):GATEWAY_INTERFACE: CGI/1.1 admin(7105):HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING: gzip, deflate admin(7105):SERVER_ADDR: 70.86.123.210 admin(7105):DOCUMENT_ROOT: /home/dpage/public_html -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] name of my mailing-list adress ...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >now, as I said on this ML, it works fine, Good to hear it. >but some bugs with the navigator mode, better to use the console mode. >When I add a ML list with the navigator : >"http://rezoperso.net/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/"; >my lists does not appear ... >with the console and command : "# listnew ..." >it's ok my lists appears ... >is it a bug ? No. It is a problem with your DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST, DEFAULT_URL_HOST and/or add_virtualhost() in Defaults.py/mm_cfg.py. See FAQ 4.29 Also note, if you are not using multiple (virtual) hosts, setting VIRTUAL_HOST_OVERVIEW = Off in mm_cfg.py will allow all public lists to appear on any listinfo and admin overview page. Otherwise, the list only appears if the host-name in the web page URL matches the host-name in the list's web_page_url attribute. Regarding your earlier question about deleting lists. If you set OWNERS_CAN_DELETE_THEIR_OWN_LISTS = Yes in mm_cfg.py, there will be a 'Delete this mailing list' link on the admin pages (just above 'Logout' on the top right). Otherwise, bin/rmlist or just delete the lists/list_name directory and the relevant directories and symlinks in archives/private and archives/public. -- Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] MemoryError
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >I am getting the following error with mailman 2.1.6, red-hat. It started to >occur while a customer was importing a new set of email adresss into their >mailinglist. They can login to the webadmin, but when they click on >"Membership" they get the "Weve Hit A Bug" message. This is what I see in >the error.log > > >I have searched around for what it could be, but cant find anything on this >specific problem > >admin(7105): MemoryError >admin(7105): [- Python Information -] >admin(7105): sys.version = 2.2.3 (#1, Feb 2 2005, 12:20:51) >[GCC 3.2.3 20030502 (Red Hat Linux 3.2.3-49)] And what immediately precedes this in the log. The part that begins: mmm dd hh:mm:ss admin(pid): admin(pid): [- Mailman Version: 2.1.6 -] admin(pid): [- Traceback --] followed by the traceback. -- Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Authenticate mailman subscribers to wiki
Dear Folks, I'm sorry if this has been answered elsewhere, but my search through the archives hasn't turned anything up yet. I want to use the same email address and passwords used by mailman to authenticate users of an Apache 2.x driven web site to particular web pages. In particular, I thought I'd set up some Moinmoin wikis for mailman subscribers for corresponding lists to be able to edit. Any pointers to how to go about that? Can mailman easily export/make available its email addresses and passwords for use by Apache? -- Nick Urbanik RHCE http://nicku.org nicku(at)nicku.org Proud ex-member of Dept. of Information & Communications Technology in Hong Kong IVE (Tsing Yi), Home of Visual Paradigm: Jolt Productivity Award winner, programmed by ICT's own graduates! GPG: 7FFA CDC7 5A77 0558 DC7A 790A 16DF EC5B BB9D 2C24ID: BB9D2C24 pgphyPf65F7wu.pgp Description: PGP signature -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Mailman setup
We have been using Mailman for about 18 months as a read only list for members of our volunteer organisation. After a short while we started getting complaints that members were not receiving their e-mails, but could never find a reason why. We happened on the reason recently... Discussion with our web host on another subject, revealed that our mailserver is set to limit outgoing e-mail to 500 per hour as an anti-spam measure. As our mailing list now has about 1000 names on it, half of them are getting their mail dumped by the server every time we send anything. Our host is unwilling to alter the server settings. Is there any way Mailman can be set to "batch process" a single post? (ie, can we send the list one mail, and have it send out the first 450 mails right away, then the next 450 an hour later, etc. until all are gone? We want to leave a 50 e-mail margin for error, and so we can still send ordinary mail in the hours after a mailout.) Thanks, G -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp