Re: [Mailman-Users] HELP, using WIN XP Pro, Admin panel problems

2005-11-10 Thread Bob Bales
I found my problem. I use eTrust for firewall and other security products. I
turned off the firewall tonight and voila, the problem went away. So, now I
just have to try and figure out what in eTrust is stumping my butt. Thanks
to Mark and everybody else who tried to help.

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[Mailman-Users] variables -- ie %(requestaddr)s = 'list'[EMAIL PROTECTED]

2005-11-10 Thread Kiwi Ssennyonjo
i am trying to find the variable for the unsubscribe address


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Re: [Mailman-Users] unsubscribing to a moderated list

2005-11-10 Thread Mark Sapiro
Kiwi Ssennyonjo wrote:

>how can users unsubscribe from a moderated list that is also announce  
>only via email (in the subject or body)
>
>i prefer not to use the options page

Users can always send email to the listname-unsubscribe or
listname-leave address or send an unsubscribe command to the
listname-request address. These methods require user confirmation just
as does unsubscribing from the options page without a password, but
the fact that the user is moderated is irrelevant.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] HELP, using WIN XP Pro, Admin panel problems#2

2005-11-10 Thread Mark Sapiro
Mark Sapiro wrote:
>
>I think the only case where time is a problem is if the
>host sends me a cookie and then daylight saving time/summer time ends
>and I send the cookie containing the timestamp which is now later that
>the current host time.

On second thought, even that is not an issue as the timestamp is in UTC.

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[Mailman-Users] unsubscribing to a moderated list

2005-11-10 Thread Kiwi Ssennyonjo
how can users unsubscribe from a moderated list that is also announce  
only via email (in the subject or body)

i prefer not to use the options page
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Re: [Mailman-Users] HELP, using WIN XP Pro, Admin panel problems#2

2005-11-10 Thread Mark Sapiro
John W. Baxter wrote:

>On 11/10/05 9:12 AM, "Bob Bales" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
Mark Sapiro wrote:
>> 
>>> Your web browser is not accepting cookies.
>> 
>> Mark, I have cookies turned on in both IE6 and in Firefox. Or at least they
>> say they are on.
>
>Or the failing machine's clock is way off.  Did it forget about the end of
>daylight time, perhaps?

I don't think the clock on the machine running the web browser has any
effect no matter how far off it is. There is a 'timestamp' encoded in
the cookie, but this timestamp is created on the Mailman host machine
and then validated upon receipt back against the host machine's clock.
The client machine isn't even aware that the cookie contains a
timestamp. I think the only case where time is a problem is if the
host sends me a cookie and then daylight saving time/summer time ends
and I send the cookie containing the timestamp which is now later that
the current host time.

The original post in this thread seemed to say that this problem
affected all users, thus I said

>This is typically caused by not accepting cookies in your browser, but
>since it appears to be a global issue, it may have something to do
>with the server's sending/receiving of cookies.

Then in a followup, Bob said that he had the problem on his machine,
but not on his granddaughter's. Thus, it is clearly not a server level
issue, but must be a problem with the local machine. I think it must
be cookie related.

I suggest in IE6, go to Tools->Internet Options->Privacy->Sites and set
the mailman host domain to always allow cookies.

I don't know Firefox directly, but in Netscape 8 it would be under
Tools->Options->Site Controls and you have to be sure cookies are
enabled for the trust level of the mailman host domain.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] HELP, using WIN XP Pro, Admin panel problems#2

2005-11-10 Thread John W. Baxter
On 11/10/05 9:12 AM, "Bob Bales" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mark Sapiro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] HELP, using WIN XP Pro, Admin panel problems#2
> 
>> Your web browser is not accepting cookies.
> 
> Mark, I have cookies turned on in both IE6 and in Firefox. Or at least they
> say they are on.

Or the failing machine's clock is way off.  Did it forget about the end of
daylight time, perhaps?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Admin Password

2005-11-10 Thread John W. Baxter
On 11/10/05 5:55 AM, "Bryan Carbonnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 10/11/05, Thomas Spuhler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Thursday 10 November 2005 01:42 am, Stefan Henrico wrote:
>>> Hi guys
>>> 
>>> Is there any way for me to retrieve my admin password?
>>> I was under the impression that I do know the password as I created a list
>>> not too long ago, but alas.. :)
>> 
>> mmsitepass would give you the ste password.
> 
> Actually mmsitepass SETS the site password.
> 
> So Stefan, if you have command line access, you can use the mmsitepass
> command to set a new site password.

And if
history | grep mmsitepass
shows you the site password, you should consider using the parameterless
form of mmsitepass instead.  I had forgotten that it could be used either
with password in the command line (nice for scripting) or without (prompting
for the password), until I checked just now.

(It's a somewhat nasty exception to the fact that *most* things in
~mailman/bin give their usage if called with no parameters.)

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Re: [Mailman-Users] HELP, using WIN XP Pro, Admin panel problems#2

2005-11-10 Thread Bob Bales

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Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] HELP, using WIN XP Pro, Admin panel problems#2

> Your web browser is not accepting cookies.

Mark, I have cookies turned on in both IE6 and in Firefox. Or at least they
say they are on.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] How to apply the security patch

2005-11-10 Thread Jim Popovitch
Get this patch:
   http://www.list.org/CAN-2005-0202.txt
change to Mailman/Cgi directory, backup private.py, then run:
   patch -p1 < CAN-2005-0202.txt

hth,

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Re: [Mailman-Users] redirection and firewall

2005-11-10 Thread Mark Sapiro
Mark Sapiro wrote:
>
>The second problem is easy to fix. Set
>
>VIRTUAL_HOST_OVERVIEW = On


Oooops. That should be 'Off', not 'On'

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[Mailman-Users] How to apply the security patch

2005-11-10 Thread Sean Murray
I was would like to know how to apply the security patch CAN-2005-0202?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] redirection and firewall

2005-11-10 Thread Mark Sapiro
Lionel Roubeyrie wrote:

>I new in the mailman world, I installed it (mailman 2.1.1) on a RedHat ES3 
>server with apache and postfix.


Why 2.1.1? Current is 2.1.6.


>This server is on our local network, and the 
>network is behind a firewall. "pythie" (the local server) is the host for 
>several websites (internals) and mailman works fine in this configuration. 
>Now, on another server on the net, we have our official website 
>(http://www.limair.asso.fr) but the provider doesn't provide a mailing-list 
>server, then I want to redirect the users from the official website to our 
>local server when they want to subscribe to our mailinglist.
>To do so, I have opened the appropriate port on the firewall and redirect all 
>incoming requests to "pythie". The subscription page appears clearly and the 
>confirm-email is send to the user, but in the mail the user have to go to 
>http://pythie/mailman/confirm/... and not 
>http://www.limair.asso.fr/mailman/confirm/...
>Another thing is when the web-user connects on pythie and request the listinfo 
>page, he see the "firewall-IP Mailing Lists" and no mailing lists in the 
>list :-(
>What do I have to do, I search on the documentation but I don't find anything 
>for that case?

The second problem is easy to fix. Set

VIRTUAL_HOST_OVERVIEW = On

in mm_cfg.py, and all public lists will appear on all host's overview
pages.

The real solution to both problems however is to configure your local
network so that "pythie" is accessable from 'inside' via
www.limair.asso.fr, and configure Mailman so that everything is in
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Re: [Mailman-Users] HELP, using WIN XP Pro, Admin panel problems#2

2005-11-10 Thread Mark Sapiro
Bob Bales wrote:

>Add to last post, I just went down to my grandaughters room and checked it
>out on her computer which is networked thru mine. And voila, everything
>works perfect. So, it has to be something local to mine. Now I just gotta
>figure out what.

Your web browser is not accepting cookies.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Different servers

2005-11-10 Thread Mark Sapiro
Supras Consult wrote:
>
>(1) My host is EarthLink, which is not listed on these pages. I clearly have
>to contact EarthLink about this. What exactly do I ask them to find out
>whether they host Mailman and, if so, under what conditions an/or
>limitations? 


You could ask them just exactly that, but large ISP's like earthlink
tend to provide only internet access, personal email and perhaps a web
portal. They do not in general provide any support for mailing list
management.


>(2) I use WinXP, and, doing a search on this, the verdict does not appear
>clear. Some seems to say Mailman works on all platforms, while others argue
>against using, for example, WinXP?


Mailman works on all Unix-like platforms. You can run Mailman under
Cygwin on WinXP, but there may be security issues.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Admin don't received nothing --

2005-11-10 Thread Mark Sapiro
Marco wrote:
>
>i have the following problem with mailman; a user subscript at my list 
>from a link, after few second it received the msg confirm3873927ecc. 
>After, it replay the msg to confirm the cycle, or directly goes on the 
>page of the list to reconfirm the subscription. Well the user received 
>always the two mail, but the admin nothing, why??


Do you have admin_notify_mchanges set to Yes on the General Options
page?


>Then, sometime when modified the file mm_cfg.py, it don't keep the new 
>value, it stored always the directive DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST and 
>DEFAULT_URL_HOST with mail.mydomain.org.


See
,
especially the part about existing lists and fix_url.

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[Mailman-Users] redirection and firewall

2005-11-10 Thread Lionel Roubeyrie
Hello all,
I new in the mailman world, I installed it (mailman 2.1.1) on a RedHat ES3 
server with apache and postfix. This server is on our local network, and the 
network is behind a firewall. "pythie" (the local server) is the host for 
several websites (internals) and mailman works fine in this configuration. 
Now, on another server on the net, we have our official website 
(http://www.limair.asso.fr) but the provider doesn't provide a mailing-list 
server, then I want to redirect the users from the official website to our 
local server when they want to subscribe to our mailinglist.
To do so, I have opened the appropriate port on the firewall and redirect all 
incoming requests to "pythie". The subscription page appears clearly and the 
confirm-email is send to the user, but in the mail the user have to go to 
http://pythie/mailman/confirm/... and not 
http://www.limair.asso.fr/mailman/confirm/...
Another thing is when the web-user connects on pythie and request the listinfo 
page, he see the "firewall-IP Mailing Lists" and no mailing lists in the 
list :-(
What do I have to do, I search on the documentation but I don't find anything 
for that case?
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Admin Password

2005-11-10 Thread Bryan Carbonnell
On 10/11/05, Thomas Spuhler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thursday 10 November 2005 01:42 am, Stefan Henrico wrote:
> > Hi guys
> >
> > Is there any way for me to retrieve my admin password?
> > I was under the impression that I do know the password as I created a list
> > not too long ago, but alas.. :)
>
> mmsitepass would give you the ste password.

Actually mmsitepass SETS the site password.

So Stefan, if you have command line access, you can use the mmsitepass
command to set a new site password.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Admin Password

2005-11-10 Thread Stefan Henrico
 
Yup, thanks :)

I managed to figure that one out all by myself hehehe.
I'm going to give myself a cookie :)

Thanks
Stef

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On Thursday 10 November 2005 01:42 am, Stefan Henrico wrote:
> Hi guys
>
> Is there any way for me to retrieve my admin password?
> I was under the impression that I do know the password as I created a 
> list not too long ago, but alas.. :)

mmsitepass would give you the ste password.

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> Thanks,
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Re: [Mailman-Users] HELP, using WIN XP Pro, Admin panel problems#2

2005-11-10 Thread Bob Bales
Add to last post, I just went down to my grandaughters room and checked it
out on her computer which is networked thru mine. And voila, everything
works perfect. So, it has to be something local to mine. Now I just gotta
figure out what.

Any ideas?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Admin Password

2005-11-10 Thread Thomas Spuhler
On Thursday 10 November 2005 01:42 am, Stefan Henrico wrote:
> Hi guys
>
> Is there any way for me to retrieve my admin password?
> I was under the impression that I do know the password as I created a list
> not too long ago, but alas.. :)

mmsitepass would give you the ste password.

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> Thanks,
> Stefan Henrico
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Re: [Mailman-Users] HELP, using WIN XP Pro, Admin panel problems

2005-11-10 Thread Bob Bales
I have written about this before and still have the problems, I viewed the
posts that Mark sent me with no real luck. Mostly lack of understanding.

Mark suggested it could be server side. I went to my server and they can do
everything on their side with no problems at all.

Here's my problems:

When I go into any of the admin/mod panels I can mark a change but when I
click "submit" I am taken right back to the sign-in page, whereupon signing
back in the change was not made.

I was allowed to set up the mail list and do everything that I needed done,
but after that time I was locked out of being able to make any changes.

Anybody have the same problem, and what did you do about it. And I am below
novice level so type slowly and use small words, please. ;-)

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[Mailman-Users] Admin don't received nothing --

2005-11-10 Thread mailing by GSoft
Hello all,

i have the following problem with mailman; a user subscript at my list 
from a link, after few second it received the msg confirm3873927ecc. 
After, it replay the msg to confirm the cycle, or directly goes on the 
page of the list to reconfirm the subscription. Well the user received 
always the two mail, but the admin nothing, why??

Then, sometime when modified the file mm_cfg.py, it don't keep the new 
value, it stored always the directive DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST and 
DEFAULT_URL_HOST with mail.mydomain.org.

If there someone can help me a lot..thanks in advance
Marco

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[Mailman-Users] Admin Password

2005-11-10 Thread Stefan Henrico
Hi guys
 
Is there any way for me to retrieve my admin password?
I was under the impression that I do know the password as I created a list
not too long ago, but alas.. :)
 
Thanks,
Stefan Henrico
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