Re: [Mailman-Users] falling back to login screen (repeat)
The name of the cookie, is LISTNAME+admin Path: /mailman/ Send For: Any type of connection Expires: at end of session Cookie seems correct. Also, again, this problem happens everywhere. Not just on one specific computer. Another detail that may be useful is; one day my web server crashed, an it took some time to find out the problem. It was related to mod_mime_magic module. In the httpd.conf, there were a line: MIMEMagicFile /etc/httpd/conf/magic . This line was preventing me from starting the http service. and its status was : httpd stopped but subsys locked! When I changed that line to MimeMagicFile /etc/httpd/conf/magic (MIME -- Mime) I could be able to start the web service, and it is now working fine. Can the problem be somehow related to mod_mime_magic ?? (I suppose, it shouldn't be) Thanks, Onur. Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: M. Onur ERGiN wrote: configuration of httpd is not changed. In this server, I also run sqwebmail, a cgi based user interface for maildirs, and it runs just perfect. I am sure, nothing is wrong with the post information.. And when I check the cookies, I just see the following hex data as mailman's cookies: 280200691b8fbd4373280062363332363834313838613135333262393534636264633432616634373730316532353532316665 is there a way to verify this data? What is the name of this cookie? It should be 'LISTNAME+admin'. The data is of the correct form (110 hex digits). For more info, see the comments at the beginning of Mailman/SecurityManager.py. I think it is highly unlikely that the cookie is set with invalid data. If there is any problem with the cookie, it would be that it isn't accepted or returned by the browser or that it is blocked somehow, not that the data would be wrong. And for the firewall, there is one in the network, but i also try to access the admin console from the lan. I don't think the network firewall would affect my server that way, but if it does so, is there a way to detect it? I agree that if you have the same problem from the local side if the firewall, then the firewall probably isn't involved. -- Mark SapiroThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan - Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] User unknown messages
Hello, One of our list serve admins is trying to send out a bunch of email to several list serves. He has defined a group in Lotus Notes, which comprises the different list serves, and when he sends mail to the group, the mail is not being delivered. The mail logs show that mail is coming from the list serve but is not being delivered because of 'user unknown' messages. We use LDAP, specifically OpenLDAP on a Linux, for our user lookups. The directory is working properly. Here are a few of the 'user unknown' messages: Jan 6 10:36:07 sendmail[31936]: Jan 6 10:36:07 sendmail[31936]: k06Fa6Cl031936: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], delay=00:00:01, pri=989527, stat=User unknown [bunches of other addresses come out the same] Even though LDAP knows about the user: [dpifer syslog]$ sendmail -bv [EMAIL PROTECTED] Terry/OCCS/AF/[EMAIL PROTECTED] deliverable: mailer esmtp, host notes.odu.edu., user Terry/OCCS/AF/[EMAIL PROTECTED] I can deliver mail to this user okay but the problem is when the mail comes through mailman. I am not seeing anything in the mailman or sendmail logs to see any other failures. Has any one seen this? Are we reaching some threshold causing this problem? We need to get this mail out today for our list serve admin. Darren ODU -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] falling back to login screen (repeat)
M. Onur ERGiN wrote:
Another detail that may be useful is; one day my web server crashed, an it
took some time to find out the problem. It was related to mod_mime_magic
module. In the httpd.conf, there were a line: MIMEMagicFile
/etc/httpd/conf/magic . This line was preventing me from starting the http
service. and its status was : httpd stopped but subsys locked!
When I changed that line to MimeMagicFile /etc/httpd/conf/magic (MIME --
Mime) I could be able to start the web service, and it is now working fine.
Can the problem be somehow related to mod_mime_magic ?? (I suppose, it
shouldn't be)
Two things here. Apache directive names (as opposed to arguments) are
case-insensitive, so your change above shouldn't make any difference.
And, assuming /etc/httpd/conf/magic is the default, I don't think this
could be involved.
If this were my problem, I would run a packet sniffer on the host and
make sure that the cookie is being properly returned in the GET and
POST requests.
Or I might start by modifying Mailman/Cgi/admin.py to log some
additional debugging information - in particular,
os.environ.get('HTTP_COOKIE').
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Re: [Mailman-Users] User unknown messages
Darren G Pifer wrote: One of our list serve admins is trying to send out a bunch of email to several list serves. He has defined a group in Lotus Notes, which comprises the different list serves, and when he sends mail to the group, the mail is not being delivered. The mail logs show that mail is coming from the list serve but is not being delivered because of 'user unknown' messages. We use LDAP, specifically OpenLDAP on a Linux, for our user lookups. The directory is working properly. Here are a few of the 'user unknown' messages: I'm not sure I understand. Are you saying there is a group in Lotus Notes which consists of the addresses of some Mailman lists and mail to that group is sent to the Mailman lists and resent by Mailman to the list members and is ultimately not delivered because the outgoing MTA says 'user unknown'? What happens when a post is sent directly to one of these lists, not via the Lotus Notes group? -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] User unknown messages
I want to include some more information that may help try to figure this out. Mail was sent to one list serve with 19 members, another list serve that had 32 members was not delivered. BTW, the person sending the mail is not the list owner that I originally reported but is a list member. This user does not have the moderate flag set on either list in membership management. Also, if it matters we are using MM 2.1.6b4. Darren On Fri, 2006-01-06 at 10:52 -0500, Darren G Pifer wrote: Hello, One of our list serve admins is trying to send out a bunch of email to several list serves. He has defined a group in Lotus Notes, which comprises the different list serves, and when he sends mail to the group, the mail is not being delivered. The mail logs show that mail is coming from the list serve but is not being delivered because of 'user unknown' messages. We use LDAP, specifically OpenLDAP on a Linux, for our user lookups. The directory is working properly. Here are a few of the 'user unknown' messages: Jan 6 10:36:07 sendmail[31936]: Jan 6 10:36:07 sendmail[31936]: k06Fa6Cl031936: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], delay=00:00:01, pri=989527, stat=User unknown [bunches of other addresses come out the same] Even though LDAP knows about the user: [dpifer syslog]$ sendmail -bv [EMAIL PROTECTED] Terry/OCCS/AF/[EMAIL PROTECTED] deliverable: mailer esmtp, host notes.odu.edu., user Terry/OCCS/AF/[EMAIL PROTECTED] I can deliver mail to this user okay but the problem is when the mail comes through mailman. I am not seeing anything in the mailman or sendmail logs to see any other failures. Has any one seen this? Are we reaching some threshold causing this problem? We need to get this mail out today for our list serve admin. Darren ODU -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/dpifer%40odu.edu Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq01.027.htp -- -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] User unknown messages
Hello, On Fri, 2006-01-06 at 09:25 -0800, Mark Sapiro wrote: Darren G Pifer wrote: One of our list serve admins is trying to send out a bunch of email to several list serves. He has defined a group in Lotus Notes, which comprises the different list serves, and when he sends mail to the group, the mail is not being delivered. The mail logs show that mail is coming from the list serve but is not being delivered because of 'user unknown' messages. We use LDAP, specifically OpenLDAP on a Linux, for our user lookups. The directory is working properly. Here are a few of the 'user unknown' messages: I'm not sure I understand. Are you saying there is a group in Lotus Notes which consists of the addresses of some Mailman lists and mail to that group is sent to the Mailman lists and resent by Mailman to the list members and is ultimately not delivered because the outgoing MTA says 'user unknown'? That is correct. According to the sender, this used to work but does not now. No changes have been made to the list (AFAIK) and none to the mailman software. What happens when a post is sent directly to one of these lists, not via the Lotus Notes group? I asked the user to send mail from Lotus Notes to the listserve and it does the same thing. Just to you know, the sender has several list serves he is mailing to. In one case, the mail was delivered (to 19 members), the other was not delivered (to 32 members). I am checking the configuration of both list serves and conparing them. I will let you know what I find out. Darren ODU -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] User unknown messages
Darren G Pifer wrote: On Fri, 2006-01-06 at 09:25 -0800, Mark Sapiro wrote: What happens when a post is sent directly to one of these lists, not via the Lotus Notes group? I asked the user to send mail from Lotus Notes to the listserve and it does the same thing. Just to you know, the sender has several list serves he is mailing to. In one case, the mail was delivered (to 19 members), the other was not delivered (to 32 members). I am checking the configuration of both list serves and conparing them. I will let you know what I find out. So in both cases Mailman sends to the list members (does everything look normal in Mailman's 'post' and 'smtp' logs?), but in one case, all 19 member posts are delivered and in the other all 32 are not delivered because the MTA says 'user unknown'. Perhaps it is the sender (LISTNAME-bounces) that is unknown to the MTA. Can anyone successfully post to the problem list? -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] bounce issue
Hi All, I think I am on the down hill slide of this adventure but I am still stuck on a couple of things. for a little back story: I have two mailman installs on one machine, due primarily to one using the mysql connector and one being a vanilla install. I am in the process of trying to figure out why my mysql based list isn't working. the test list on it sends out list mail but it shows as coming from the bounce address. the From field shows correctly, but the sender field shows [EMAIL PROTECTED] Im looking in the logs and I see that: Jan 06 11:03:09 2006 (19833) post to test_emag from [EMAIL PROTECTED], size=52564, message-id=[EMAIL PROTECTED], success it was posted successfully. What else can I check? Thanks, Sean Roe -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] bounce issue
Sean Roe wrote: I am in the process of trying to figure out why my mysql based list isn't working. the test list on it sends out list mail but it shows as coming from the bounce address. the From field shows correctly, but the sender field shows [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is exactly what it's supposed to be. The envelope is from the -bounces address so that bounces will be returned to the -bounces address for automated bounce processing. The -bounces address is also placed in Sender: and Errors-To: headers for the benefit of non-compliant MTAs. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] bounce issue
Mark Sapiro wrote: Sean Roe wrote: I am in the process of trying to figure out why my mysql based list isn't working. the test list on it sends out list mail but it shows as coming from the bounce address. the From field shows correctly, but the sender field shows [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is exactly what it's supposed to be. The envelope is from the -bounces address so that bounces will be returned to the -bounces address for automated bounce processing. The -bounces address is also placed in Sender: and Errors-To: headers for the benefit of non-compliant MTAs. Ooops my bad. Sorry I misunderstood what the field is for. So it is working as promised. I guess I'll try sending out the big list now ~120k users. Thanks, Sean -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] User unknown messages
Hello, Thanks for all the help but I got resolution from our spam filter vendor Roaring Penguin. Apparently, the issue was a side effect of the interaction of the Mailman and CanIt-PRO, the spam filter software we have implemented on our mail machines. It seems that if there was one address in the list that was bad it would cause the whole message to be rejected. Their recommendation changes cause Mailman to submit mail through the mail server's address rather than from localhost. Since the mail no longer appears to be coming from 'localhost', CanIt-PRO will do address validation at RCPT time rather than waiting until after the DATA phase. Before the change, canit would reject the message if there was one bad recipient, now it will rejects only the bad recipients. On Fri, 2006-01-06 at 10:52 -0800, Mark Sapiro wrote: Darren G Pifer wrote: These log entries indicate that in both cases the outgoing message was accepted for delivery by the outgoing MTA. Whatever the issue is that is preventing delivery of the 32, it is not detected until later in the process when the MTA attempts to deliver to the 32 recipients. Is there any difference in the form of the actual member addresses between the two lists? Here are the recommended changes from the vendor: 1) In /etc/mail/access, add this line: Connect:mailserver1.odu.edu RELAY 2) Rebuild the access DB: make -C /etc/mail 3) Edit Mailman's Defaults.py file. Make sure the following two settings are set as follows: DELIVERY_MODULE = 'SMTPDirect' SMTPHOST = 'mailserver1.odu.edu' Darren ODU -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] poster receives copy of post
Where can I configure it so the poster receives a copy of the post? I am using version 2.1.5. Thanks! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] poster receives copy of post
Terry wrote: Where can I configure it so the poster receives a copy of the post? I am using version 2.1.5. This is a per-member setting. The default for new members is set on the list's General Options page under Default options for new members joining this list. For existing members, it is the not metoo setting on the Membership Management...-Membership List pages. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] poster receives copy of post
On 06/01/06, Terry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where can I configure it so the poster receives a copy of the post? I am using version 2.1.5. If the post is using GMail, then they won't see a copy even if one os delivered. GMail does something with the incoming e-mail and if they sent it, it won't show the received one. I believe there are other services that do this as well. -- Bryan Carbonnell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting What a great ride! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
