Re: [Mailman-Users] Weirdness
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Lawrence Bowie wrote:
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It certainly looks as though that should have been accepted.
What is in Mailman's 'vette' log for this post? If that doesn't provide
the answer, I would try the following:
In Mailman/Handlers/Moderate.py, find the following:
else:
sender = msg.get_sender()
# From here on out, we're dealing with non-members.
Change the this to:
else:
sender = msg.get_sender()
# From here on out, we're dealing with non-members.
syslog('vette',
'Non member post. get_senders() = %s get_sender() = %s',
str(msg.get_senders()), sender)
-
This will create an entry in the 'vette' log (preceding the normal held
post entry) for every non-member post. which in addition to the
'sender' from get_sender() also contains the list of senders from
get_senders(). It is this list that is validated for membership. The
post is considered from a list member if any of the get_senders()
addresses is a list member.
I have not tried the above but it is asking for confirmation because the posts
are from legitimate automatic engines that send email. The list does not know
how to distinguish between SPAM and a legitimate automatic post.
Any ideas on resolving this dilemma?
Thanks,
LDB
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Include full name or description to the From address
Tony Sciortino wrote: Is there a way to add a full name or the mail list description to the from adress. Instead of seeing From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You would see From: My List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm assuming this is an anonymous list (anonymous_list = Yes) so the From: is replaced with the list address. If this is the case and the list has a description (A terse phrase identifying this list.) , e.g. My List, the from will look like From: My List [EMAIL PROTECTED] in recent versions of Mailman (2.1.6 and above). -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Weirdness
Lawrence Bowie I have not tried the above but it is asking for confirmation because the posts are from legitimate automatic engines that send email. The list does not know how to distinguish between SPAM and a legitimate automatic post. Any ideas on resolving this dilemma? Posts which are held because of being from a non-member are only held based on the calculated 'sender' of the message which in turn is based on only a few message headers which all looked OK in your sample message. I can understand your reluctance to patch the code, but at least look in the 'vette' log and see what the entry there reports as the sender of the held post. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Creatng a new list
Hi am geting this error when am creating a new mailing lists. Bug in Mailman version 2.1.7 We're sorry, we hit a bug! Please inform the webmaster for this site of this problem. Printing of traceback and other system information has been explicitly inhibited, but the webmaster can find this information in the Mailman error logs. Any body with the idea?? -- Ronnie Tash says, there's a method to my madness, its called being insane Everything can be achieved as long you can do what it takes to achieve it! -- -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Creatng a new list
Ronnie Napster Tash wrote: Hi am geting this error when am creating a new mailing lists. Bug in Mailman version 2.1.7 We're sorry, we hit a bug! Please inform the webmaster for this site of this problem. Printing of traceback and other system information has been explicitly inhibited, but the webmaster can find this information in the Mailman error logs. Any body with the idea?? Look in mailman's 'error' log and find the full description and traceback for this error, and if that doesn't tell you what the problem is, post it here for advice. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Creatng a new list
On Thu, Feb 02, 2006 at 01:21:44PM -0700, Ronnie Napster Tash wrote: Hi am geting this error when am creating a new mailing lists. Bug in Mailman version 2.1.7 We're sorry, we hit a bug! I ran into this too; run check_perms see if there is a new directory that was created with the wrong permissions. Fix the permissions (check_perms -f) and try to create the list again. --asp -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Include full name or description to the From address
Thank you. I am running at 2.1.5 and do not have this behavior. It is running as anonymous but because of the Outlook crazyness I had to make a change to SMTPDirect.py. Maybe that is why things are not working as expected. At least I have something to look at. On 2/2/06, Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tony Sciortino wrote: Is there a way to add a full name or the mail list description to the from adress. Instead of seeing From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You would see From: My List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm assuming this is an anonymous list (anonymous_list = Yes) so the From: is replaced with the list address. If this is the case and the list has a description (A terse phrase identifying this list.) , e.g. My List, the from will look like From: My List [EMAIL PROTECTED] in recent versions of Mailman (2.1.6 and above). -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Include full name or description to the From address
Tony Sciortino wrote: I am running at 2.1.5 and do not have this behavior. It is running as anonymous but because of the Outlook crazyness I had to make a change to SMTPDirect.py. Maybe that is why things are not working as expected. It is working as expected for Mailman 2.1.5. Adding 'description' to the From: header was first implemented in 2.1.6. At least I have something to look at. See http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/mailman/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Cleanse.py?r1=2.5.2.1r2=2.5.2.2 for the implementation. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Newbie struggling with add_virtualhosts
I want to achieve a situation in which some mailing lists are only visible
from my external web site, where as others are only visible on my within
home lan
Also, I can appear to be going to an internal web site by creating a port
forwarded ssh tunnel from localhost:80 to one of my internal web sites port
80.
Therefore, for a single e-mail domain (mail.home) I want to map several web
server synonyms to it (www.home, mail.home, roo.home and localhost).
Similarly for my external web site (at www.chandlerfamily.org.uk).
I thought the directives below would achieve this, they don't seem to - in
particular I get different mailing lists anounced when I visit roo.home and
mail.home (ie on theri listinfo address).
Its just possible that one of the mailing lists was created by mistake with
roo.home as its e-mail domain. Could that be the cause of the problem?
DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'chandlerfamily.org.uk'
DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'www.chandlerfamily.org.uk'
#add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST,DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST) This should already be
set
#Following map internal mail lists to several potential host names
add_virtualhost('mail.home', 'mail.home')
add_virtualhost('www.home','mail.home')
add_virtualhost('roo.home','mail.home')
#Following done so virtual connection via ssh also works
add_virtualhost('localhost','mail.home')
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Newbie struggling with add_virtualhosts
Alan Chandler wrote:
I want to achieve a situation in which some mailing lists are only visible
from my external web site, where as others are only visible on my within
home lan
Also, I can appear to be going to an internal web site by creating a port
forwarded ssh tunnel from localhost:80 to one of my internal web sites port
80.
Therefore, for a single e-mail domain (mail.home) I want to map several web
server synonyms to it (www.home, mail.home, roo.home and localhost).
Similarly for my external web site (at www.chandlerfamily.org.uk).
I thought the directives below would achieve this, they don't seem to - in
particular I get different mailing lists anounced when I visit roo.home and
mail.home (ie on theri listinfo address).
That's right. See below.
Its just possible that one of the mailing lists was created by mistake with
roo.home as its e-mail domain. Could that be the cause of the problem?
No. email host doesn't affect this, only url (web) host
DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'chandlerfamily.org.uk'
DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'www.chandlerfamily.org.uk'
#add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST,DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST) This should already be
set
Maybe, maybe not. It was set in Defaults.py with the Defaults.py values
of DEFAULT_URL_HOST and DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST. If the assignments above
are different from what's in Defaults.py, the best bet is to put the
following two lines here.
VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear()
add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST,DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST)
#Following map internal mail lists to several potential host names
add_virtualhost('mail.home', 'mail.home')
add_virtualhost('www.home','mail.home')
add_virtualhost('roo.home','mail.home')
#Following done so virtual connection via ssh also works
add_virtualhost('localhost','mail.home')
This is all OK, but it probably doesn't do what you want. What it does
do is it allows lists to be created in any of the domains
www.chandlerfamily.org.uk, mail.home, www.home, roo.home and localhost
and all of these but the first will have the associated email domain
mail.home.
But, lists created in the mail.home domain for example will only appear
on the mail.home listinfo page; lists in the www.home domain will only
appear on the www.home ,listinfo page, and so forth.
See
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.062.htp
for a more detailed discussion.
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[Mailman-Users] Unwanted Unsubscribe Notifications
Hello all - thanks in advance for any suggestions. My list moderators are receiving unsubscribe notifications for the list, and I don't know how to turn that off. I have (under General Options) Should administrator get notices of subscribes and unsubscribes? set to No, but I'm wondering if there's another setting I need to turn off. I have (under General Options) Should the list moderators get immediate notice of new requests set to Yes because it's a fully moderated list, and I want them to get the notices that there's a new message immediately. At the moment, I also have Emergency moderation of all list traffic enabled. Thanks, Matthew O'Malley -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Unwanted Unsubscribe Notifications
Matthew O'Malley wrote: My list moderators are receiving unsubscribe notifications for the list, and I don't know how to turn that off. I have (under General Options) Should administrator get notices of subscribes and unsubscribes? set to No, but I'm wondering if there's another setting I need to turn off. That should be the one. Some processes, e.g. admin mass unsubscribe and bin/sync_members, have the ability to override this setting. How are your members getting unsubscribed? I have (under General Options) Should the list moderators get immediate notice of new requests set to Yes because it's a fully moderated list, and I want them to get the notices that there's a new message immediately. And that's the setting for this, but At the moment, I also have Emergency moderation of all list traffic enabled. Notices are not sent for emergency moderation holds. This is by design because emergency is for unusual circumstances and it is felt the notices would be annoying. However, member moderation is checked before emergency moderation, so there should be a notice for a post from a moderated member even if emergency is on. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Issues with replaced characters/newlines in mailmanlists
Matt Zorzin wrote: My company runs several mailman lists for internal usage, which we have been happy with for years. Recently after an upgrade, our system has started behaving strangely. Upgrade from what to what? We have an automated ticket system that occasionally sends out email to the lists. This has always worked fine in the past. Lately, it is starting to replace spaces in the subject header with odd characters and newlinesbut only on two of the four lists. An example: This is a copy/paste of an affected message's header. Subject: [XXX-List] X-X: unit not eligible for warranty despite being purchased as new You'll notice the newline after 'warranty'. The newline is a result of RFC 2822 header folding applied to long headers. The headers may start out long or they may grow because of the addition of the subject prefix. MUAs such as Outlook Express and Mozilla should unfold the subject and display it without the newline. Also, most of the spaces in these subjects are being replaced by characters unprintable in Outlook Express or Mozilla; we get little black squares in between each word, which indicates some sort of character set error. I don't know what would cause this. Does it happen for all posts or only on posts from the ticket system? i.e. what happens if you send a normal email post to a ticket list? What does the actual, raw subject look like if you view the 'message source'? -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Newbie struggling with add_virtualhosts
Alan Chandler wrote:
Just to be clear - what I mean by this is if I visit ANY of the web sites
www.home, mail.home, roo.home, localhost I want to get the same set of lists
(they happen to be a set of gated newsgroups), if I visit
www.chandlerfamily.org.uk I get another set (genuine mailing lists created by
me)
Yes, I understood that.
This is all OK, but it probably doesn't do what you want. What it does
do is it allows lists to be created in any of the domains
www.chandlerfamily.org.uk, mail.home, www.home, roo.home and localhost
and all of these but the first will have the associated email domain
mail.home.
You say it doesn't do what I want - but I can't see what I should therefore
do. Is what I want to do possible?
Yes, see below.
But, lists created in the mail.home domain for example will only appear
on the mail.home listinfo page; lists in the www.home domain will only
appear on the www.home ,listinfo page, and so forth.
Its the lists created in the mail.home domain bit I only half understand.
If I have understood everything correctly that I have read, there is a
mailing list parameter called web_page_url. It doesn't appear on any of the
lists configuration options but I could run a python script called fix_url.py
to change it. It is this parameter which is looked up in the virtualhosts
table to get an e-mail host.
That's essentially correct.
The bit I don't understand is how does the e-mail host effect what is
displayed on a partitular listinfo page based on the url the user used to
access that page.
It doesn't. What determines whether or not a list is displayed
(assuming it's public) on the listinfo and admin overviews is whether
or not the host name part of it's web_page_url attribute matches the
host name part of the accessing URL.
See
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.062.htp
for a more detailed discussion.
I read through that, and I understand everything it says (I think:-) ), but I
doesn't appear to answer my question.
It attempts to tell you what you need to do in this case, but perhaps
it isn't clear.
You need to have two entries in your VIRTUAL_HOSTS dictionary as
created by
add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST)
and for example
add_virtualhost('www.home', 'mail.home')
Then you need to create all your lists in one or the other of the two
domains 'www.chandlerfamily.org.uk' (DEFAULT_URL_HOST) or 'www.home'.
Then you need to configure your web server to rewrite all the other
(mail.home, roo.home and localhost) host names as www.home.
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