Re: [Mailman-Users] HELP!

2006-02-04 Thread Brad Knowles
At 8:36 PM -0800 2006-02-03, Mark Sapiro wrote:

  I have experienced no delays from this list lately, so if there
  actually was a delay in the list's receiving your mail or your
  receiving the post back, it is likely a delay occurring between MTAs
  totally outside of Mailman.

We have recently discovered that there are some ISPs in the world 
that are blocking large chunks of European IP address space, 
including (but not limited to) all the IP address space that belongs 
to XS4ALL.nl, the ISP in the Netherlands that provides hosting for 
all the python.org machines -- especially including the mail server.


The ironic thing is that XS4ALL is probably one of the most 
pro-consumer/anti-spam ISPs in the world, and they are regularly 
involved in lobbying the European government to get various 
anti-consumer laws overturned or modified to be more appropriate. 
They've even been strong enough to hold up against the Scientologists 
in the US -- they provide hosting facilities for a well-known 
anti-Scientology website, which had been hounded out of existence at 
all previous facilities until it reached XS4ALL.

I'm going to be setting up my own co-location servers, and XS4ALL 
is top of my list of sites that I will seriously consider for 
security purposes, possibly including other sites at Sealand, 
ServerVault (where a friend of mine used to work), and other highly 
secure facilities.


Anyway, if you're having delays in getting e-mail to your site 
from this mailing list, one thing you want to check is to make sure 
that you're not blacklisting or firewalling IP addresses belonging to 
the network owned by XS4ALL.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Strange URL for archive access

2006-02-04 Thread Lukas Ruf
Mark,

 Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-02-03 20:21]:


thanks for answering.

 Lukas Ruf wrote:
 
 while clicking on listinfo - 'listname' works, clicking on the
 provided archive URL doesn't.  After searching the web without
 success, I contact you.
 
 I setup a mailman on my server
 https://lists.lpr.ch/mailman/listinfo to

 What archive URL doesn't work?


the archives of info (the only one where data is currently available).
Clicking on archives results (with me) in
https://lists.lpr.ch/mailman/listinfopipermail/info/ instead of
https://lists.lpr.ch/pipermail/info/

 I just went to your listinfo overview page and from there to the
 listinfo pages for the info and muttprint lists and tried the
 archive link on each of those pages and it worked for me.


I tried it right now -- without success.

 BTW, I notice your PUBLIC_ARCHIVE_URL is 'http' and your
 DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN is 'https'. Is this intentional?


that's intentional.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Strange URL for archive access

2006-02-04 Thread Mark Sapiro
Lukas Ruf wrote:

the archives of info (the only one where data is currently available).
Clicking on archives results (with me) in
https://lists.lpr.ch/mailman/listinfopipermail/info/ instead of
https://lists.lpr.ch/pipermail/info/

I still don't see it. On what page (URL) do you see this link?

I go to https://lists.lpr.ch/mailman/listinfo/info and see the link
To see the collection of prior postings to the list, visit the info
Archives. which links to http://lists.lpr.ch/pipermail/info/.

Perhaps you have an old page cached in your browser?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] AOL to Implement E-mail Certification Program

2006-02-04 Thread David Gibbs
Larry Stone wrote:
 Nothing I do provides me any direct benefit so I'm sure as heck not paying
 for assured delivery. 

Stated like that (and I don't disagree in the slightest), AOL's new
program could be construed as extortion: Pay us money, or your mail
won't be delivered.

david


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[Mailman-Users] Mass Subscription Problem

2006-02-04 Thread Will Nordmeyer
I was having this problem with V2.1.5 and upgraded to V2.1.7 this AM and
still have this problem:

 

I created a new list and am trying to mass subscribe all the users from an
old list to this one.  I put the email addresses in (about 260 addresses)
and hit submit changes (direct subscribe instead of an invitation, turned
off welcome emails, no list administrator notification).  When I click
submit changes, I am put right back at the Mass Subscription page, and no
addresses have been subscribed.

 

Any suggestions?

 

--Will

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mass Subscription Problem

2006-02-04 Thread Brad Knowles
At 12:08 PM -0500 2006-02-04, Will Nordmeyer wrote:

  I created a new list and am trying to mass subscribe all the users from an
  old list to this one.  I put the email addresses in (about 260 addresses)
  and hit submit changes (direct subscribe instead of an invitation, turned
  off welcome emails, no list administrator notification).  When I click
  submit changes, I am put right back at the Mass Subscription page, and no
  addresses have been subscribed.

I'm just guessing, but this sounds like the problem outlined in 
FAQ 4.45 or maybe 4.65.  See the Mailman FAQ Wizard for more info.

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[Mailman-Users] confused about how to use fix url

2006-02-04 Thread Thomas Waters
I need some help understanding the use of fix url.  I see that I need  
to use it with withlist, but past that, I'm confused.

Upgraded the hardware for our server, and in trying to move  
everything to it my lists aren't working.  I can create a new list,  
and it works, but the migrated lists won't function.  In the web page  
UI, the links to the archives show the wrong URL.


I have read everything in the server (man and help) about withlist  
and fix url, and still confused.

Thx,


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[Mailman-Users] TEST

2006-02-04 Thread Bob Bales
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Re: [Mailman-Users] confused about how to use fix url

2006-02-04 Thread Mark Sapiro
Thomas Waters wrote:

I need some help understanding the use of fix url.  I see that I need  
to use it with withlist, but past that, I'm confused.

Upgraded the hardware for our server, and in trying to move  
everything to it my lists aren't working.  I can create a new list,  
and it works, but the migrated lists won't function.  In the web page  
UI, the links to the archives show the wrong URL.


If you have only DEFAULT_URL_HOST and DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST in your
configuration and no additional virtual hosts, you can give the
following command to process all your lists according to the default
settings which should be correct given that your new lists work.

bin/withlist -l -a -r fix_url -- -v

This runs withlist and tells it to lock the lists (-l) process all
lists (-a) process by calling fix_url in the module fix_url.py with
arguments of the list instance and -v which causes fix_url to report
what it's doing. The -- is to separate the -v option for fix_url from
the withlist options since there's no listname to do that in this case.

If you have more than one virtual host, you have to process the lists
one at a time with

bin/withlist -l -r fix_url listname -u url_host

but you could wrap that in a shell script to run the command repeatedly
for all the listname/url_host pairs.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Exchange and attachment

2006-02-04 Thread Xueshan Feng

On Dec 15, 2005, at 6:52 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:

 Susan Feng wrote:

 We are having similar problem with mailman 2.1.6 version. Exchange 
 users
 receive their email body as attachment. Other email clients are 
 fine.

 Do you have a msg_header and/or msg_footer defined for the list?

 See
 http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.039.htp

Hey Mark,

Sorry to take some time to get to this. It just so happened that our 
majordomo  converting script left a blank line in the footer by 
default, which caused the problem for exchange users.
Removing that line and turning off content filter fix the problem.

Thanks!

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Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-Developers] Permission of data/bounce-events-?????.pck

2006-02-04 Thread Mark Sapiro
imacat wrote:

I noted that in the source of mailman 2.1.7 there are 2 lines in
bin/mailmanctl:

line 421-422
# Clear our file mode creation umask
os.umask(0)

Is this intended?  Is it the reason why data/bounce-events-?.pck
are world-writable?

There doesn't appear to be a good reason. This has been changed for
Mailman 2.1.8 so that the 'default' umask will be 007 and also the
specific creation of the bounce-events queue file will have no
permission for 'other'.

The changes to bin/mailmanctl and Mailman/Queue/BounceRunner.py have
been committed to CVS and can be seen (soon) at
http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/mailman/mailman/.

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