[Mailman-Users] Unable to execute a script when incoming mail arrives

2006-02-21 Thread kannan . ekanath
Hi,
I am using MailMan 1.0.1.

Whenever a mail arrives, i want to execute a script this is in
relation to the integration with mail2forum software. The document
says,


Then add the following line to the .forward file of your mailing list's account:
|/path/to/m2f/m2f_import_msgs.sh


I am not sure what exactly is meant by this .forward file. I tried
putting the alias in the /etc/aliases file but it doesnot seem to
archive. Can someone tell me as to where exactly this aforementioned
.forward file resides. It has eaten up my brain for last 8 hours
though.



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Re: [Mailman-Users] Unable to execute a script when incoming mail arrives

2006-02-21 Thread kannan . ekanath
I am using MailMan 1.0.1.

I am using MailMan 2.1.6

On 2/21/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 I am using MailMan 1.0.1.

 Whenever a mail arrives, i want to execute a script this is in
 relation to the integration with mail2forum software. The document
 says,

 
 Then add the following line to the .forward file of your mailing list's
 account:
 |/path/to/m2f/m2f_import_msgs.sh

 
 I am not sure what exactly is meant by this .forward file. I tried
 putting the alias in the /etc/aliases file but it doesnot seem to
 archive. Can someone tell me as to where exactly this aforementioned
 .forward file resides. It has eaten up my brain for last 8 hours
 though.



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Re: [Mailman-Users] I've built apache, sendmail, mailman successfully, how to make them work?

2006-02-21 Thread lovecreatesbeauty
Hello, tons of thanks to Mark and Patrick. Any subscriber can receive
emails from mailing list after moderator confirm the messages. Now my
Mailman system works fine. Thanks again.

Sincerely,

lovecreatesbeauty,

lovecreatesbeauty at gmail dot com,

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Unable to execute a script when incoming mailarrives

2006-02-21 Thread Mark Sapiro
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I am using MailMan 2.1.6


OK


On 2/21/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Whenever a mail arrives, i want to execute a script this is in
 relation to the integration with mail2forum software. The document
 says,

 
 Then add the following line to the .forward file of your mailing list's
 account:
 |/path/to/m2f/m2f_import_msgs.sh

 


This is not really a Mailman question, it is a mail2forum question.
Also, integration of mail2forum with Mailman is really not within the
scope of this list.


 I am not sure what exactly is meant by this .forward file.


If you're trying to set this up to forward posts to Mailman to
mail2forum, it won't work. The .forward file is like an alias file for
a local mail recipient. I.e. an actual local user who receives mail
addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] can create a file named .forward
in his/her home directory, and that file can contain addresses or
pipes to which to deliver the mail instead of delivering it to the
user's local mailbox.

In the Mailman case, incoming mail is already piped to Mailman via MTA
aliases (or some other MTA mechanism), and there is no local mailbox
to which it would be delivered, thus no home directory in which to put
a .forward file.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Unable to execute a script when incoming mailarrives

2006-02-21 Thread Patrick Bogen
One possible solution may be to create a local user for this purpose,
subscribe it to all your lists, and then add the .forward line
suggested to that user's .forward in that user's home directory.

There may be a better way... or this may not apply to mail2forum at
all. I don't know what it is.

- Patrick Bogen

On 2/21/06, Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am using MailMan 2.1.6


 OK


 On 2/21/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Whenever a mail arrives, i want to execute a script this is in
  relation to the integration with mail2forum software. The document
  says,
 
  
  Then add the following line to the .forward file of your mailing list's
  account:
  |/path/to/m2f/m2f_import_msgs.sh
 
  


 This is not really a Mailman question, it is a mail2forum question.
 Also, integration of mail2forum with Mailman is really not within the
 scope of this list.


  I am not sure what exactly is meant by this .forward file.


 If you're trying to set this up to forward posts to Mailman to
 mail2forum, it won't work. The .forward file is like an alias file for
 a local mail recipient. I.e. an actual local user who receives mail
 addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] can create a file named .forward
 in his/her home directory, and that file can contain addresses or
 pipes to which to deliver the mail instead of delivering it to the
 user's local mailbox.

 In the Mailman case, incoming mail is already piped to Mailman via MTA
 aliases (or some other MTA mechanism), and there is no local mailbox
 to which it would be delivered, thus no home directory in which to put
 a .forward file.

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[Mailman-Users] From address format question

2006-02-21 Thread Jonathan Larsen
Why is it that in outlook, when I get an email from mail man that it puts;
[EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of ME [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Shouldn't it just be the listname?  Or if this is normal can someone explain
it to me.  I've been left with this duty of figuring out every odd and end
of mailman to tell my managers and they don't like the fact that it does
this.  Not that it matters to any of you but. ya.. hah anyways, any help is
much appreciated.

 

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Re: [Mailman-Users] From address format question

2006-02-21 Thread Todd Zullinger
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Jonathan Larsen wrote:
 Why is it that in outlook, when I get an email from mail man that it puts;
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of ME [EMAIL PROTECTED]

See FAQ 2.3: From field displayed by Microsoft Outlook

http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq02.003.htp

 Shouldn't it just be the listname?  Or if this is normal can someone
 explain it to me.  I've been left with this duty of figuring out
 every odd and end of mailman to tell my managers and they don't like
 the fact that it does this.  Not that it matters to any of you but.
 ya.. hah anyways, any help is much appreciated.

What's the polite way to tell a manger that Outlook is shit and MS
insists on making life difficult for those who use their products?

:-)

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[Mailman-Users] Removing Disabled List Members

2006-02-21 Thread David Andrews
I was under the impression, which may be wrong, that when a list 
subscription was disabled due to bounces, then a period of time 
passed, without the subscription being renewed by the user, that 
his/her address was automatically removed from the list.

Am I wrong.  This isn't happening with my system.  I run some 80 
lists, many of which are years old, so these things are starting to add up.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Removing Disabled List Members

2006-02-21 Thread Mark Sapiro
David Andrews wrote:

I was under the impression, which may be wrong, that when a list 
subscription was disabled due to bounces, then a period of time 
passed, without the subscription being renewed by the user, that 
his/her address was automatically removed from the list.

Am I wrong.  This isn't happening with my system.  I run some 80 
lists, many of which are years old, so these things are starting to add up.


Your impression is correct, BUT it depends on appropriate settings for
bounce_you_are_disabled_warnings and
bounce_you_are_disabled_warnings_interval, i.e. they should both be
reasonably small numbers - normal defaults are 3 warnings at 7 day
intervals.

It also depends on the user's delivery status being 'disabled by
bounce' and it depends on the daily cron/disabled job being run.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] From address format question

2006-02-21 Thread Patrick Bogen
Install Thunderbird and tell him it's a code name for a new Outlook beta.

On 2/21/06, Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Jonathan Larsen wrote:

 Why is it that in outlook, when I get an email from mail man that it puts;
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of ME [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Shouldn't it just be the listname?  Or if this is normal can someone explain
 it to me.  I've been left with this duty of figuring out every odd and end
 of mailman to tell my managers and they don't like the fact that it does
 this.


 In that case, you should probably familiarize yourself with the FAQ and
 the archives of this list.

 Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/


 The answer to your specific question is in FAQ 2.3

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Displaying message sender

2006-02-21 Thread Mark Sapiro
Matthew Thompson wrote:

I was looking for a way that we could automatically add the sender's
name or email address to the message to make this more fool-proof.  I
would prefer to add it to the subject line to make sorting in the mail
client meaningful but adding it to the message body would be useful too.


You will have to modify code to make this happen.

I have several ideas about how this could be done, but perhaps the most
interesting to me is not to make the list anonymous, but to mung the
address in From:. Exactly how to design this depends on what
naughty.com looks at/for.

Does it care about Reply-To:? It would be cool if it didn't. You could
mung the address in From: replacing '@' with ' at ' and '.' with
' dot ' or whatever works. Now, if there's already a Reply-To:, you're
done because reply would go there anyway. If there isn't a Reply-To:,
you add one with the original From: address.

If it cares about Reply-To:, you probably have to strip it (a current
list option), and people will have to edit the addresses in their
replies so this is not nearly as viable.

Also, even in the first case, you'll probably run into MUA's that want
to reply to the To: and the Cc: and the From: and the Reply-To: on a
'reply all', so the From: will have to be edited out in those cases.

The logical place to do all this is Mailman/Handlers/CookHeaders.py.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Displaying message sender

2006-02-21 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
 Matthew == Matthew Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Matthew I have a mailing list with users subscribed from two
Matthew particular domains, call them nice.com and naughty.com.
Matthew The security czars are naughty.com have decided that
Matthew inbound email with naughty.com in the From address cannot
Matthew possibly be legitimate so they silently drop the mail.

Mr. Foot, meet Mr. Bullet.  Make sure you cash any checks from
naughty.com immediately; one gets the feeling they're not going to be
around for very long.

Matthew One way around this is to make the list anonymous but
Matthew that creates the problem that we don't know who sent the
Matthew message unless everyone always remembers to mark the
Matthew messages either in the subject line or at the end of the
Matthew message.

Why not simply change all instances of @naughty.com in the author
headers to @naughty.invalid or @censored.invalid or something like
that?  It's easy enough to create a custom Handler to do that kind of
thing, and should be safe, too.  Since you're going to have to modify
Mailman in any case, I believe, this is the least intrusive way to do
it.

If the answer is that would work for us, then I'll look at doing the
coding and documenting the installation process, unless somebody beats
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Unable to execute a script when incoming mailarrives

2006-02-21 Thread kannan . ekanath
Well i think you can ignore the mail2forum part. Here is my
requirement. When a mail comes to a dummy alias i want some script to
be executed (a simple .sh file with execute permissions being
provided)

I added the following line /etc/aliases file,
forumtest-dummymember: |/home/kannan/scripts/somescript.sh

But the thing is it doesnt seem to call the script. Any idea why? If
the script got executed it creates a dummy file in the directory. (In
this case the file wasnt created).

Any thoughts?
Regards,
kannan


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 One possible solution may be to create a local user for this purpose,
 subscribe it to all your lists, and then add the .forward line
 suggested to that user's .forward in that user's home directory.

 There may be a better way... or this may not apply to mail2forum at
 all. I don't know what it is.

 - Patrick Bogen

 On 2/21/06, Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I am using MailMan 2.1.6
 
 
  OK
 
 
  On 2/21/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Whenever a mail arrives, i want to execute a script this is in
   relation to the integration with mail2forum software. The document
   says,
  
   
   Then add the following line to the .forward file of your mailing list's
   account:
   |/path/to/m2f/m2f_import_msgs.sh
  
   
 
 
  This is not really a Mailman question, it is a mail2forum question.
  Also, integration of mail2forum with Mailman is really not within the
  scope of this list.
 
 
   I am not sure what exactly is meant by this .forward file.
 
 
  If you're trying to set this up to forward posts to Mailman to
  mail2forum, it won't work. The .forward file is like an alias file for
  a local mail recipient. I.e. an actual local user who receives mail
  addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] can create a file named .forward
  in his/her home directory, and that file can contain addresses or
  pipes to which to deliver the mail instead of delivering it to the
  user's local mailbox.
 
  In the Mailman case, incoming mail is already piped to Mailman via MTA
  aliases (or some other MTA mechanism), and there is no local mailbox
  to which it would be delivered, thus no home directory in which to put
  a .forward file.
 
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[Mailman-Users] Non-member posting

2006-02-21 Thread Martin S
Hi all,

I looked through the faq but didn't the answer - perhaps I'm missing what's
too obvious.
Anyway - how do I make an existing list open for non-members to post to.
(I'm doing a list for tournament managers which should also act as a
helpdesk).


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Unable to execute a script when incoming mailarrives

2006-02-21 Thread Mark Sapiro
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I added the following line /etc/aliases file,
forumtest-dummymember: |/home/kannan/scripts/somescript.sh

But the thing is it doesnt seem to call the script. Any idea why? If
the script got executed it creates a dummy file in the directory. (In
this case the file wasnt created).


Did you run postalias or newaliases or whatever the appropriate command
is for your MTA to update the aliases.db file?

What happens to the mail sent to forumtest-dummymember?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Non-member posting

2006-02-21 Thread Mark Sapiro
Martin S wrote:

Anyway - how do I make an existing list open for non-members to post to.


Privacy options...-Sender filters-generic_nonmember_action = Accept


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