Re: [Mailman-Users] Running a script on subscribe/unsubscribe?
Dragon said the following on 3/13/2006 1:49 AM: It's not so much a problem per se as it is just that I want processing to be much more immediate so that when a member subscription is approved or a member unsubscribes or is removed from the list, the password update and other setup activities don't have to wait around for the next cron interval. (Which is currently set to run hourly). I set mine up like this: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.007.htp It's in a cron job that runs make every 10 minutes. Since make only does anything to files that have changed, it becomes a fairly lightweight process--you could probably run it every 5 minutes or so, even. Best, --Glenn -- They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Mailman List Migration to Another Server
Hi Guys We are in the process of moving a bunch of mail lists from one server to another. As far as I could read, one needs to copy the following directories :- /usr/local/mailman/lists /usr/local/mailman/archives I have copied those directories over to my new server and all appears to be working, except that I cannot see any of the lists through the web interface. I have also modified the config.pck file though a utility called config_list available in the /usr/local/mailman/bin directory to reflect the new server URL addresses, but that doesn't seem to have done the trick for me. Has anyone else experienced the same, and any possible solutions or ideas? Thanx RC -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman List Migration to Another Server
RC wrote: I have copied those directories over to my new server and all appears to be working, except that I cannot see any of the lists through the web interface. See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.029.htp, especially the part about 'existing lists'. I have also modified the config.pck file though a utility called config_list available in the /usr/local/mailman/bin directory to reflect the new server URL addresses, but that doesn't seem to have done the trick for me. I don't know what you did with config_list (i.e., what attributes you changed and what you changed them to - the critical one here is web_page_url), but fix_url should do everything you need. In the simplist case, it's just /usr/local/mailman/bin/withlist -a -l -r fix_url -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] qrunners exiting
Hello, In our setup, we see a number of our queue runners exiting during their daily operation: Mar 13 14:20:03 2006 (5122) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 5126, sig: None, sts: 1, class: BounceRunner, slice: 2/2) [restarting] Mar 13 14:20:04 2006 (5218) BounceRunner qrunner started. Mar 13 14:25:28 2006 (5122) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 5132, sig: None, sts: 1, class: OutgoingRunner, slice: 2/2) [restarting] Mar 13 14:25:28 2006 (5314) OutgoingRunner qrunner started. Mar 13 16:20:49 2006 (5122) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 5123, sig: None, sts: 1, class: ArchRunner, slice: 1/2) [restarting] Mar 13 16:20:50 2006 (6619) ArchRunner qrunner started. There are no errors in the error log when this happens, however, every now and then we see: Mar 13 11:26:42 2006 (23030) Qrunner ArchRunner reached maximum restart limit of 10, not restarting. At this stage, mail starts backing up in the archive queue and isn't delivered until mailman is restarted. After having a dig through the archive, I added MAX_RESTARTS = 1 to the config file in the hope that this would solve the problem, however it's continued to his this limit of 10. Can anybody offer any help on why this may be happening or any debugs I can enable? Thanks in advance, George -- George Barnett Reality Engineer m: (+44) 797 457 1868 e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Perfection is finally attained, not when there is no longer anything to add, but when there is no longer anything to take away. -- Antoine de Saint-Exupery -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Setting up an open-posting list
On 3/13/06, H. Wade Minter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In Privacy Options - Sender Filters, I have generic_nonmember_action set to Accept. I also have accept_these_nonmembers set to a regexp of ^.*, and all other _these_nonmembers options are blank. It shouldn't be necessary to have both of those options set; one or the other should suffice. approval. Am I missing a setting to allow open posting? You may want to make sure Emergency Moderate is turned off. I can't think of anything else. -- - Patrick Bogen -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] qrunners exiting
On 3/13/06, George Barnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At this stage, mail starts backing up in the archive queue and isn't delivered until mailman is restarted. After having a dig through the archive, I added MAX_RESTARTS = 1 to the config file in the hope that this would solve the problem, however it's continued to his this limit of 10. Which config file did you add this to (it should go in your mm_cfg.py)? Did you restart the master qrunner after the change? -- - Patrick Bogen -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Setting up an open-posting list
H. Wade Minter wrote: I'm trying to configure a Mailman 2.1.6 installation to have an open-posting list. That is, mail from nonmembers should be immediately accepted and forwarded to the list. In Privacy Options - Sender Filters, I have generic_nonmember_action set to Accept. I also have accept_these_nonmembers set to a regexp of ^.*, Either of the above should do it. and all other _these_nonmembers options are blank. However, nonmember mail keeps getting sent to the list moderator for approval. Am I missing a setting to allow open posting? What is the reason the mail is being held? (Every held message has a reason visible on the admindb interface and in 'moderation' messages sent to the admin and in Mailman's vette log.) -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] renaming lists
We have a number of departments with similarly-sounding lists as well as some that replicate others. To streamline and simplify, I intend to rename some lists. The FAQ describe how to move and redirect lists but this isn't quite what I want. In some cases, some lists will swap names (ie ListX is renamed to ListY and ListY is renamed to listX so web redirect wont work. OTOH, it's not an issue since the web interface is just used by the few list admins who've already agreed to new names, web paths, perhaps even resetting their admin passwords). Also none of the lists have archives. With that in mind, I'm hoping I can just swap their config.pck files (after turning off sendmail and qrunner). Is this doable? Thanks =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- generated by /dev/dave -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= David SternUniversity of Maryland Institute for Advanced Computer Studies -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] renaming lists
Dave Stern wrote: We have a number of departments with similarly-sounding lists as well as some that replicate others. To streamline and simplify, I intend to rename some lists. The FAQ describe how to move and redirect lists but this isn't quite what I want. In some cases, some lists will swap names (ie ListX is renamed to ListY and ListY is renamed to listX so web redirect wont work. OTOH, it's not an issue since the web interface is just used by the few list admins who've already agreed to new names, web paths, perhaps even resetting their admin passwords). Also none of the lists have archives. With that in mind, I'm hoping I can just swap their config.pck files (after turning off sendmail and qrunner). Is this doable? End original message. - I'm sure more knowledgeable folks will correct me if I am wrong, but after looking at what is in the config.pck file using dumpdb, it seems that you could swap the files and then just go in and edit the list specific stuff using the web interface. The list specific stuff are the subject header, digest and message header and footer, list info, goodbye message and a few other things. So this looks like it could be pretty simple to make it happen. Dragon ~~~ Venimus, Saltavimus, Bibimus (et naribus canium capti sumus) ~~~ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] renaming lists
Dave Stern sent the message below at 10:49 3/13/2006: We have a number of departments with similarly-sounding lists as well as some that replicate others. To streamline and simplify, I intend to rename some lists. The FAQ describe how to move and redirect lists but this isn't quite what I want. In some cases, some lists will swap names (ie ListX is renamed to ListY and ListY is renamed to listX so web redirect wont work. OTOH, it's not an issue since the web interface is just used by the few list admins who've already agreed to new names, web paths, perhaps even resetting their admin passwords). Also none of the lists have archives. With that in mind, I'm hoping I can just swap their config.pck files (after turning off sendmail and qrunner). Is this doable? End original message. - Oh yeah, one further thought while we are on this subject... You may want to consider using entirely new list names because it is just about certain that your users are going to get confused and try to post to the wrong list. Even using new list names, expect there to be a lot of user issues with the transition. Dragon ~~~ Venimus, Saltavimus, Bibimus (et naribus canium capti sumus) ~~~ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] renaming lists
Dragon wrote: Dave Stern wrote: We have a number of departments with similarly-sounding lists as well as some that replicate others. To streamline and simplify, I intend to rename some lists. The FAQ describe how to move and redirect lists but this isn't quite what I want. In some cases, some lists will swap names (ie ListX is renamed to ListY and ListY is renamed to listX so web redirect wont work. OTOH, it's not an issue since the web interface is just used by the few list admins who've already agreed to new names, web paths, perhaps even resetting their admin passwords). Also none of the lists have archives. With that in mind, I'm hoping I can just swap their config.pck files (after turning off sendmail and qrunner). Is this doable? End original message. - I'm sure more knowledgeable folks will correct me if I am wrong, but after looking at what is in the config.pck file using dumpdb, it seems that you could swap the files and then just go in and edit the list specific stuff using the web interface. Essentially correct, but you want to swap directory names because you want the requests and pending and digest.mbox and all to stay with the list, and there's only one listname specific thing that needs to be changed. rename the directories - e.g. mv lists/listy lists/temp_no_conflict_name mv lists/listx lists/Listy mv lists/temp_no_conflict_name lists/listx Then go to the web admin for ListX and change it's real_name to ListY and so on for all lists. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] qrunners exiting
George Barnett wrote: Alas, there isn't anything in the error log. Does it make a difference that I have multiple queue runners running? Eg 2 Arch runner, 2 outgoing runners, etc. This should be fine as long as the number of runners for any queue is a power of 2 (1, 2, 4, etc). The qrunner log messages you quoted in the OP look OK from the multiple slices standpoint. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Running a script on subscribe/unsubscribe?
Dragon wrote: I'm certainly willing to give this a try though, I can usually wrap my head around a new programming language pretty quickly. Especially if I can get some good guidance over the thorny bits. As good as we're capable of :-) OK, this looks like the right path for what I want to do. It would be nice if I can pass the affected e-mail address to my script so I can take action on only that e-mail address. The only thing I see as problematic is the case where a user changes the subscribed e-mail address. It should be very straightforward to fork a script with command line arguments for things like listname, email and password, and either wait for the script to finish or let it go on its own. The address change shouldn't be a problem because internally it is actually an unsubscribe of the old address and a subscribe of the new except that after subscribing the new, the options from the old are applied to the new. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Renaming or Deleting a List
Hi: Is it possible to rename a list -- a major rename that is, not just case change that is mentioned in web interface? If not, how do you delete a list -- and save or transfer its members? Thanks! Dave David Andrews and white cane Harry. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Renaming or Deleting a List
On 3/13/06, David Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible to rename a list -- a major rename that is, not just case change that is mentioned in web interface? This was *just* discusses on the list. Please see: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/msg37663.html http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/msg37662.html -- - Patrick Bogen -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Renaming or Deleting a List
David Andrews wrote: Is it possible to rename a list -- a major rename that is, not just case change that is mentioned in web interface? If you have command line access to the server and sufficient permission, all you need do is rename the list specific directories and maybe one file and one or two symlinks. You need to change the listname in lists/listname/ and if there are archives archives/private/listname/ archives/private/listname.mbox/ archives/private/listname.mbox/listname.mbox and if the archive is public, the following one or two symlinks archives/public/listname archives/public/listname.mbox Then as mentioned in the posts Patrick pointed at, change the lists real_name attribute via the web interface. It also is better if you rebuild the archives from the archives/private/listname.mbox/listname.mbox file with the bin/arch command line tool if there are links to scrubbed attachments in the archived messages. If not, how do you delete a list -- and save or transfer its members? bin/rmlist bin/config_list bin/list_members or see http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.026.htp and http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.062.htp Also, if OWNERS_CAN_DELETE_THEIR_OWN_LISTS = Yes in mm_cfg.py, there is a link on the admin pages to delete the list, but this doesn't save or backup anything. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Thanks, and some archive questions now.
First, thanks very much for your prompt answers Mark! the more I read and hear about this system the more convinced I am this will be a great solution for us. You mentioned editing messages may be a bit cumbersome, but these new questions of mine will give you an idea of my tolerance for pain and cumbersomeness perhaps! G its not my first choice of course, but after some serious torture with software lately, nothing I can imagine would be worse than what I've dealt with already! Right now, our archives consist of about 2500 old digests stored on my laptop, obviously not good! we have earlier archives stored on a website, but in a system we could no longer continue to update due to some tech reasons that aren't really clear to me. We've recently found a system to use for these archives, but it requires that I manually post each one to that system after running them through an editing system to disable addresses etc so I've got a lot of work in front of me. What occurs to me is, that if we convert to Mailman, we'd then have three separate archive systems, so, I'm wondering if there's a way to eliminate at least one of those. Even if I had to manually post them to Mailman, I'd far rather do that rather than save to this other system so at least they'd all be in one place. My question is, is it possible to somehow get old digests into the system? And if so, is there a way to write a script to do that in some automated way? Also, would I get better, searchable archives out of somehow posting each of the messages separately and letting the system create new digests? And, if that's the case, could I do this update in a second list with only one or two dummy members, then somehow merge these archives with the 'real' list we'd be running concurrently while all these old messages were being processed into the system as I'm describing? I also wonder if some or all of this rather labor intensive work I'm talking about could be handled by some sort of scripts? I don't need to know HOW to do it now, it would go right over my head, but I'm wondering if I should hold off updating this other system for now and wait until we've converted, so really all I want to know is if these things are somehow possible? Thanks! Gail -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Thanks, and some archive questions now.
Gail wrote: My question is, is it possible to somehow get old digests into the system? And if so, is there a way to write a script to do that in some automated way? It is trivially easy to import messages into a Mailman archive with the bin/arch command line tool IF and ONLY IF the messages are in unix mbox format - i.e., a flat file with each message preceded by a line of the form From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Mar 13 17:01:06 2006 followed immediately by the message headers, a blank line, the message body and a blank line. If the messages aren't in mbox format to begin with, they need somehoy to be put in that format. There is some info at http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.036.htp that may be helpful. Also, would I get better, searchable archives out of somehow posting each of the messages separately and letting the system create new digests? What do you have in your existing digests? Mailman's pipermail archives are indexed by month (by default) and each month has indices by date, subject, author and thread. The thread index depends on messages having a Message-Id: header and replies having a References: or a In-Reply-To: header. If you don't have this information in the mbox file, the thread index will be the same as the date index. You still want individual messages rather than digests because otherwise, the archive indices will be full of messages with subject ... digest issue # Also, Mailman archives are not searchable within Mailman. There are patches for this, and if the archives are public, they can be searched with google if google indexes them. Go to http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py and search for archive. Some of the returned articles are relevant. And, if that's the case, could I do this update in a second list with only one or two dummy members, then somehow merge these archives with the 'real' list we'd be running concurrently while all these old messages were being processed into the system as I'm describing? If you need to create archives by posting messages one at a time, then yes, you can do it on a list with no members, and the archiving process will build the mbox file which can later be put together with the one for the live list. See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.003.htp which discusses removing posts from the archive, but the same information applies to adding to an archive. Basically, you just put the two mbox files together onto one and rebuild the archive. There are some issues with message numbering which are discussed in the FAQ, but they shouldn't be to significant with a fairly new archive. I also wonder if some or all of this rather labor intensive work I'm talking about could be handled by some sort of scripts? Again, depending on what information you have, you can script the creation of a mbox file, and you can script a list posting process too, but this shouldn't be necessary because posting a message to a list is not going to add anything that couldn't be programmatically added to create a mbox file. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] mischief: Login failure with private rosters
Hi all, I keep seeing Login failure with private rosters errors in my mischief logs. Some are accepted as being valid, but others seem to be unrelated to private archives and more likely to be failure to login to unsubscribe or change options. I haven't directly asked any of the users, however I have some inside knowledge on what a few of the users are doing since I know their email addresses are changing. That knowledge, coupled with the fact that their particular list only has public archives, makes me believe there may be an error in the log message in Mailman v2.1.7. The mischief logs don't identify which list the login failure occurs with, so it is difficult to know for sure. Has anyone else experienced similar? -Jim P. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] mischief: Login failure with private rosters
Jim Popovitch wrote: I keep seeing Login failure with private rosters errors in my mischief logs. Some are accepted as being valid, but others seem to be unrelated to private archives and more likely to be failure to login to unsubscribe or change options. I haven't directly asked any of the users, however I have some inside knowledge on what a few of the users are doing since I know their email addresses are changing. That knowledge, coupled with the fact that their particular list only has public archives, makes me believe there may be an error in the log message in Mailman v2.1.7. The mischief logs don't identify which list the login failure occurs with, so it is difficult to know for sure. Has anyone else experienced similar? This is a normal message. It probably should specify the list but it doesn't. It has nothing to do with public/private archives. It has to do with whether the membership roster is available to anyone or not. I.e., the Privacy options...-Subscription rules-private_roster setting. If the roster is not available to anyone, we are concerned about invalid login attempts to the options page. If, for example, we just said 'invalid password' to the user who attempts to login with a bad password, someone could use that response to verify whether or not an address was subscribed to the list, thus at least partially defeating the privacy of the membership list, so we just tell the user the login is unsuccessful, but not why, and we log the event in 'mischief' in case it is really part of an attempt to probe the membership list. In most cases, these log entries are really legitimate options page login attempts by members who forgot or mistyped their password. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
