Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem w/ alias

2006-03-30 Thread noc ops

Mark Sapiro wrote:
> noc ops wrote:
> 
>>For some unknown reason sending mail to this alias, not everyone (140
>>users) on this list get messages. Few do and others don't?
>>
>>Is there a way to check for corruption? What should I be looking for?
>>I'm kinda lost.
> 
> 
> 
> Check Mailman's log files - particularly smtp, smtp-failure and bounce.

I will check this in the morning and report back.

> 
> If the smtp log shows the post is sent to a smaller number than
> expected, check the users settings in the membership list for 'nomail'
> and maybe 'digest'. 
-
Nope none of these are checked. I even subscribed/unsubscribed users
from this alias with no avail. How do you fix the corruption issue.


Also, are Topics defined for the list or were
> Topics ever defined? This can cause members to not get all messages.
-
The topic filter is disabled.


What's interesting is, under 'Privacy Options'-->'Recipient filters' the
"Ceiling on acceptable number of recipients for a posting" was set to
10. So I've set this to 0 to see what happens.




regards,
/virendra

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Archive Scrubbing HTML

2006-03-30 Thread Mark Sapiro
MichiganWxSystem Administration wrote:

>I have a list set up, that sends out HTML emails to my list subscribers.
>But if you go to the archive page, the HTML is scrubbed and your actually 
>viewing the 
>email source code. Not the idea situation. I need the HTML to be preserved, 
>not scrubbed.
>I have played with the Archive features but no matter what is selected the 
>HTML is scrubbed
>
>What needs to be changed to display the archive in html 


Read the extensive documentation about the ARCHIVE_HTML_SANITIZER
setting in Defaults.py.

The closest you can come is to set ARCHIVE_HTML_SANITIZER = 3 in
mm_cfg.py, but be sure you read the notes about this setting in
Defaults.py before you decide to do this.

You can't get what you want which is inline (not scrubbed) HTML. You
can set ARCHIVE_HTML_SANITIZER = 2 to leave the HTML inline, but then
Pipermail escapes it so what you see is source like HTML rather than
rendered HTML.

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[Mailman-Users] Archive Scrubbing HTML

2006-03-30 Thread MichiganWxSystem Administration
I have a list set up, that sends out HTML emails to my list subscribers.
But if you go to the archive page, the HTML is scrubbed and your actually 
viewing the 
email source code. Not the idea situation. I need the HTML to be preserved, not 
scrubbed.
I have played with the Archive features but no matter what is selected the HTML 
is scrubbed

What needs to be changed to display the archive in html 



Jeffrey Lake K8JSL
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem w/ alias

2006-03-30 Thread Mark Sapiro
noc ops wrote:
>
>For some unknown reason sending mail to this alias, not everyone (140
>users) on this list get messages. Few do and others don't?
>
>Is there a way to check for corruption? What should I be looking for?
>I'm kinda lost.


Check Mailman's log files - particularly smtp, smtp-failure and bounce.

If the smtp log shows the post is sent to a smaller number than
expected, check the users settings in the membership list for 'nomail'
and maybe 'digest'. Also, are Topics defined for the list or were
Topics ever defined? This can cause members to not get all messages.

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[Mailman-Users] Problem w/ alias

2006-03-30 Thread noc ops
Hi,

I have around 32 aliases setup and they all are working fine with an
exception of one in particular which has around 140 users.

For some unknown reason sending mail to this alias, not everyone (140
users) on this list get messages. Few do and others don't?

Is there a way to check for corruption? What should I be looking for?
I'm kinda lost.


Any recommendation will be appreciated.


I'm running mailman v2.1.5-8 on debian (sarge).



regards,
/virendra


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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman and postfix - postfix works, but mailman doesn't

2006-03-30 Thread Mark Sapiro
John Durkin wrote:
>
>/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman owner johnlist
>
>and it behaves almost as if i were running commandline mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>so i type "Test" and hit ctrl-D and it exits, no errors, etc.  But -
>still I get no mail.

It's not quite like 'mail'. It expects stdin to be a complete message
including all headers as well as the body.

So are these messages piling up in queue entries in qfiles/in? If so,
have you started mailman ('bin/mailmanctl start')?

See
.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] permission problem saving attachments toarchives

2006-03-30 Thread Mark Sapiro
Mark Sapiro wrote:
>
>What happens if you try the following:
>
>su mailman
>python
 import os
 os.umask(002)
 os.makedirs('/home/mailman/archives/private/membership/attachments/20060301/cf7df1b6',
  02775)
 open('/home/mailman/archives/private/membership/attachments/20060301/cf7df1b6/xxx',
  'w')
>
>
>
>os.makedirs( ... 2775) is all one line as is
>open( ... 'w')
>
>Does this throw any exception? Does it create the missing directories?
>(note, type control-D in response to a >>> prompt to exit Python)


And what happens if you try

su mailman
python
>>> import os
>>> os.umask(002)
>>> os.makedirs('/home/mailman/archives/private/xyz/attachments/20060301/cf7df1b6',
>>>  02775)
>>> open('/home/mailman/archives/private/xyz/attachments/20060301/cf7df1b6/xxx',
>>>  'w')

where xyz is not a symlink?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] permission problem saving attachments to archives

2006-03-30 Thread Mark Sapiro
kristina clair wrote:

>On 3/29/06, Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> This is puzzling. Something is not right about this. Possibly the full
>> traceback will contradict me, but I think that Scrubber is in it's
>> save_attachment() function and is trying to lock the attachment
>> directory
>> (/home/mailman/archives/private/membership/attachments/20060301/cf7df1b6/
>> in this case) in order to keep other processes out while it computes a
>> unique file name to save the attachment. It is the lock.lock() call in
>> Scrubber that trys to create
>> /home/mailman/archives/private/membership/attachments/20060301/cf7df1b6/a=
>ttachments.lock.server.com.23421.174.


And the traceback confirms that the above is the actual scenario.


>> However, well before this, Scrubber has called its makedirs() function
>> to create as necessary all the directories in
>> /home/mailman/archives/private/membership/attachments/20060301/cf7df1b6/,
>> and this apparently succeeded yet the directories 20060301/ and
>> 20060301/cf7df1b6/ (and even the attachments/ directory initially)
>> don't exist.
>>
>> Do these directories exist somewhere else?
>
>I did a find for cf7df1b6 and didn't find it anywhere.


How about 20060301? Although if you didn't find the other, you probably
won't find this either.


>Here is the full traceback from the error log:
>

>  File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Scrubber.py", line 227, in process
>url = save_attachment(mlist, part, dir, filter_html=False)


So here save_attachment() is called, and the first two lines thereof are

fsdir = os.path.join(mlist.archive_dir(), dir)
makedirs(fsdir)

where in this case, fsdir computes to be
'/home/mailman/archives/private/membership/attachments/20060301/cf7df1b6'
and makedirs() calls the Python library os.makedirs() to create any
missing directories in the path with permissions 02775. The only
exception from this that is passed is 'directory exists'.

So somehow - don't ask me how - we get past this without having created
the directories.


>  File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Scrubber.py", line 374, in 
> save_attachment
>lock.lock()
>  File "/home/mailman/Mailman/LockFile.py", line 243, in lock
>self.__write()
>  File "/home/mailman/Mailman/LockFile.py", line 422, in __write
>fp = open(self.__tmpfname, 'w')
>IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: 
>'/home/mailman/archives/private/membership/attachments/20060301/cf7df1b6/attachments.lock.sparks.serve.com.23421.369'


Then we get this error when we try to create the lock file in the
non-existent directory. I'd expect the error to be 'No such file or
directory' rather than 'Permission denied'. Maybe that's another clue,
but if so, I don't know how to use it.

What happens if you try the following:

su mailman
python
>>> import os
>>> os.umask(002)
>>> os.makedirs('/home/mailman/archives/private/membership/attachments/20060301/cf7df1b6',
>>>  02775)
>>> open('/home/mailman/archives/private/membership/attachments/20060301/cf7df1b6/xxx',
>>>  'w')



os.makedirs( ... 2775) is all one line as is
open( ... 'w')

Does this throw any exception? Does it create the missing directories?
(note, type control-D in response to a >>> prompt to exit Python)

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Removing footer text?

2006-03-30 Thread Dragon
Todd Zullinger sent the message below at 14:34 3/30/2006:
>-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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>
>Matt Singerman wrote:
> > All I would like to do is remove the footer text that Mailman adds
> > on to the end of all messages - the part that reads something like:
>
>In addition to what Andre said, I believe you can get the same effect
>via the web interface by deleting the text in the msg_footer and
>digest_footer options, available on the Non-digest options and Digest
>options pages, respectively.
>
>(I don't have time to test this to confirm, so I'm going on memory.)
 End original message. -

Your memory serves you right. This is indeed how you would do this 
via the web interface.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] permission problem saving attachments to archives

2006-03-30 Thread kristina clair
Oops!  I meant to mention in my last email that the "attachment" that
mailman is trying to save is the email which is in html format.  I'm
not sure if  that helps at all...

Kristina

On 3/30/06, kristina clair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 3/29/06, Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > kristina clair
> >
> > >On 3/28/06, Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >> (what
> > >> does 'ls -lR /home/mailman/archives/private/membership/attachments'
> > >> show?)
> > >
> > ># ls -lR /home/mailman/archives/private/membership/attachments
> > >/home/mailman/archives/private/membership/attachments:
> > >total 0
> >
> >
> > This is puzzling. Something is not right about this. Possibly the full
> > traceback will contradict me, but I think that Scrubber is in it's
> > save_attachment() function and is trying to lock the attachment
> > directory
> > (/home/mailman/archives/private/membership/attachments/20060301/cf7df1b6/
> > in this case) in order to keep other processes out while it computes a
> > unique file name to save the attachment. It is the lock.lock() call in
> > Scrubber that trys to create
> > /home/mailman/archives/private/membership/attachments/20060301/cf7df1b6/attachments.lock.server.com.23421.174.
> > However, well before this, Scrubber has called its makedirs() function
> > to create as necessary all the directories in
> > /home/mailman/archives/private/membership/attachments/20060301/cf7df1b6/,
> > and this apparently succeeded yet the directories 20060301/ and
> > 20060301/cf7df1b6/ (and even the attachments/ directory initially)
> > don't exist.
> >
> > Do these directories exist somewhere else?
>
> I did a find for cf7df1b6 and didn't find it anywhere.
>
> Here is the full traceback from the error log:
>
> Mar 29 19:05:37 2006 (23421) Uncaught runner exception: [Errno 13] Permission
> denied: '/home/mailman/archives/private/membership/attachments/20060301/cf7df1
> b6/attachments.lock.sparks.serve.com.23421.369'
> Mar 29 19:05:37 2006 (23421) Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 111, in _oneloop
> self._onefile(msg, msgdata)
>   File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 167, in _onefile
> keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata)
>   File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line 130, in _dispose
> more = self._dopipeline(mlist, msg, msgdata, pipeline)
>   File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line 153, in _dopipeli
> ne
> sys.modules[modname].process(mlist, msg, msgdata)
>   File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 91, in process
> send_digests(mlist, mboxfp)
>   File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 132, in send_digests
> send_i18n_digests(mlist, mboxfp)
>   File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 306, in send_i18n_di
> gests
> msg = scrubber(mlist, msg)
>   File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Scrubber.py", line 227, in process
> url = save_attachment(mlist, part, dir, filter_html=False)
>   File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Scrubber.py", line 374, in save_attachm
> ent
> lock.lock()
>   File "/home/mailman/Mailman/LockFile.py", line 243, in lock
> self.__write()
>   File "/home/mailman/Mailman/LockFile.py", line 422, in __write
> fp = open(self.__tmpfname, 'w')
> IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/home/mailman/archives/private/members
> hip/attachments/20060301/cf7df1b6/attachments.lock.sparks.serve.com.23421.369'
>
> Mar 29 19:05:37 2006 (23421) SHUNTING: 1143677136.7960529+889704a08fe8f3c3bc33
> 625fc844ed14d4b14ca4
>
>
> Thanks!
> Kristina
>


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Removing footer text?

2006-03-30 Thread Todd Zullinger
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Matt Singerman wrote:
> All I would like to do is remove the footer text that Mailman adds
> on to the end of all messages - the part that reads something like:

In addition to what Andre said, I believe you can get the same effect
via the web interface by deleting the text in the msg_footer and
digest_footer options, available on the Non-digest options and Digest
options pages, respectively.

(I don't have time to test this to confirm, so I'm going on memory.)

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Removing footer text?

2006-03-30 Thread Andre Tann
Matt Singerman, Donnerstag, 30. März 2006 22:05: 

> All I would like to do is remove the footer text that Mailman
> adds on to the end of all messages

Write your list config into a file:

./config_list -o /tmp/listconfig yourlist

Edit this file, and find the parameter msg_footer.

Reimport the configuration with

./config_list -i /tmp/listconfig yourlist

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Re: [Mailman-Users] permission problem saving attachments to archives

2006-03-30 Thread kristina clair
On 3/29/06, Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> kristina clair
>
> >On 3/28/06, Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> (what
> >> does 'ls -lR /home/mailman/archives/private/membership/attachments'
> >> show?)
> >
> ># ls -lR /home/mailman/archives/private/membership/attachments
> >/home/mailman/archives/private/membership/attachments:
> >total 0
>
>
> This is puzzling. Something is not right about this. Possibly the full
> traceback will contradict me, but I think that Scrubber is in it's
> save_attachment() function and is trying to lock the attachment
> directory
> (/home/mailman/archives/private/membership/attachments/20060301/cf7df1b6/
> in this case) in order to keep other processes out while it computes a
> unique file name to save the attachment. It is the lock.lock() call in
> Scrubber that trys to create
> /home/mailman/archives/private/membership/attachments/20060301/cf7df1b6/attachments.lock.server.com.23421.174.
> However, well before this, Scrubber has called its makedirs() function
> to create as necessary all the directories in
> /home/mailman/archives/private/membership/attachments/20060301/cf7df1b6/,
> and this apparently succeeded yet the directories 20060301/ and
> 20060301/cf7df1b6/ (and even the attachments/ directory initially)
> don't exist.
>
> Do these directories exist somewhere else?

I did a find for cf7df1b6 and didn't find it anywhere.

Here is the full traceback from the error log:

Mar 29 19:05:37 2006 (23421) Uncaught runner exception: [Errno 13] Permission
denied: '/home/mailman/archives/private/membership/attachments/20060301/cf7df1
b6/attachments.lock.sparks.serve.com.23421.369'
Mar 29 19:05:37 2006 (23421) Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 111, in _oneloop
self._onefile(msg, msgdata)
  File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 167, in _onefile
keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata)
  File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line 130, in _dispose
more = self._dopipeline(mlist, msg, msgdata, pipeline)
  File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line 153, in _dopipeli
ne
sys.modules[modname].process(mlist, msg, msgdata)
  File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 91, in process
send_digests(mlist, mboxfp)
  File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 132, in send_digests
send_i18n_digests(mlist, mboxfp)
  File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 306, in send_i18n_di
gests
msg = scrubber(mlist, msg)
  File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Scrubber.py", line 227, in process
url = save_attachment(mlist, part, dir, filter_html=False)
  File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Scrubber.py", line 374, in save_attachm
ent
lock.lock()
  File "/home/mailman/Mailman/LockFile.py", line 243, in lock
self.__write()
  File "/home/mailman/Mailman/LockFile.py", line 422, in __write
fp = open(self.__tmpfname, 'w')
IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/home/mailman/archives/private/members
hip/attachments/20060301/cf7df1b6/attachments.lock.sparks.serve.com.23421.369'

Mar 29 19:05:37 2006 (23421) SHUNTING: 1143677136.7960529+889704a08fe8f3c3bc33
625fc844ed14d4b14ca4


Thanks!
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[Mailman-Users] Removing footer text?

2006-03-30 Thread Matt Singerman
Hello all,

First off, I apologize for asking this, as I am sure it has been asked
scroews of times before.  However, I cannot seem to word search
phrases correctly to bring up the desired results.

All I would like to do is remove the footer text that Mailman adds on
to the end of all messages - the part that reads something like:

___
Test mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://list.domain.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Is there a way to do this?  I have direct server access, so I can get
in and modify files if necessary.

Thanks!
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Re: [Mailman-Users] create multiple lists resolved

2006-03-30 Thread Carconni
Dear Mr. Shapiro,

I just wanted to let you know how I resolved it.  Thanks again for your help.

#!/bin/sh

list=`cat $1`

for user in $list
do
echo $user
./newlist -q $user [EMAIL PROTECTED] password  
done



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: [Mailman-Users] create multiple lists
Date:   March 29, 2006 5:22:54 PM PST
To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED], mailman-users@python.org

Carconni wrote:

Were moving to mailman and I need to create over 250 "lists".  All the lists 
will have the same owner and and the same password.  Is there anyway to 
automate this?  I can set up a script to loop through a test file but how can I 
set the owner_mail = args[1] and listpasswd = args[2] to a default value?

See

bin/newlist --help

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[Mailman-Users] mailman and postfix - postfix works, but mailman doesn't

2006-03-30 Thread John Durkin
We have compiled and installed per the instructions mailman using
postfix as the MTA.  We can send mail fine using postfix command-line.
 Also, the first few times we would get errors in the maillog about
the gid.  We read up on that and have fixed it.  But - now when
mailman should be sending notifications, etc - it does not.  No errors
appear in the maillog either.  Our aliases seem fine.  I even tried
something else which produced interesting results...

Reading the aliases list, I tried this:

/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman owner johnlist

johnlist is a list i made successfully.  i can make lists, subscribe
people, etc. through the httpd interface to mailman and command-line.

so - anyway - the first time i ran the above command, i received on my
console the very same error we were getting in the beginning - about
how the mail wrapper was being run by an unexpected user (in the way
we are configured, it expects mailman to run it.)  So, I su to
mailman, run the command again like so:

/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman owner johnlist

and it behaves almost as if i were running commandline mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]

so i type "Test" and hit ctrl-D and it exits, no errors, etc.  But -
still I get no mail.

Any input welcome!!!

JD
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Run mailman non-permanently?

2006-03-30 Thread Friedemann Schorer
Hi Mark,

> It is not necessary for Mailman to be running in order to accept
> incoming Mailman mail. It will be passed to the mail/mailman wrapper
> and queued whether or not Mailman is actually running. So, depending
> on how much delay you can tolerate, you might be able to set up a cron
> to start mailman say every 10 minutes and another to stop it say 1
> minute later. You may need to experiment with this to insure that
> queues don't get backlogged, but it might work.

Great, thanks four your advice. I don't think there'll be much trouble
with delays on a low traffic site :D


Best regards,


Friedemann


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman in debian, mailman don`t send the mails to users and admin, postfix work fine

2006-03-30 Thread michael mendoza
Muchas gracias, no habia caido en cuenta que tenia q
iniciar el mailman con:
> /etc/init.d/mailman start





 --- Patrick Bogen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió:

> On 3/29/06, Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > michael mendoza wrote:
> > >
> > >Need I run a script o sometime like that to work
> > >mailman with with postfix or by default it work?
> >
> > You need to run the Mailman queue runners. I don't
> know if Debian has
> > it's own way of doing this by starting the Mailman
> service or
> > something like that. In Mailman installed from
> source this is done by
> Debian installs a script in /etc/init.d/mailman that
> will start
> everything up by running:
> 
> /etc/init.d/mailman start
> 
> as root. However, this only checks for the existence
> of the site list
> and then runs mailmanctl.
> 
> --
> - Patrick Bogen
> 


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Bouncing a user repeatedly.

2006-03-30 Thread Mark Sapiro
P.I.Julius wrote:

>On Wed, 2006-03-29 at 13:29 -0800, Mark Sapiro wrote: 
>> P.I.Julius wrote:
>> >
>> >As you can see the bounce is sent out from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >to [EMAIL PROTECTED] but we don't have such an
>> >user on our server, so why do we get all this emails sent out? it happens
>> >every seconds, so it really uses a lot of cpu resources.
>> 

>> 
>> Look at your Mailman logs 'post', 'smtp' and 'smtp-failure' and at the
>> contents of Mailman's qfiles/retry/ directory (queue) for clues.
>> 
>
>I don't have anything in the qfiles/retry, I don't even have a retry
>directory (/var/mailman/qfiles), but I took a look on the post, smtp,
>smtp-failure and there is a lot of failure messages:
>
>Mar 30 09:26:45 2006 (747) delivery to
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] failed with code 450:
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: User unknown in local
>recipient table
>Mar 30 09:26:46 2006 (747) delivery to
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] failed with code 450:
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: User unknown in local
>recipient table
>Mar 30 09:26:47 2006 (747) delivery to
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] failed with code 450:
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: User unknown in local
>recipient table
>
>and so on.
>
>As you can see now I have a different email, so I have no idea what it
>could be.


This is strange on a couple of counts. bout of the above email
addresses have local parts that look like domain names and domains
equal to yours.

This may say that Mailman is actually trying to send just to
cva34.internetdsl.tpnet.pl or p43n152.172.63.ruraltel.net. This may be
some loop involved in rejecting messages or some kind of 'denial of
service' attack on your server. You never mentioned messages incomming
to Mailman. Are there any?

If you look at the list's Privacy options generic_nonmember_action and
header_filter_rules actions if any, are these set to Reject? If so,
try changing them to Hold or Discard and see what happens (Hold will
give more information if this is the problem).

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Run mailman non-permanently?

2006-03-30 Thread Mark Sapiro
Friedemann Schorer wrote:
>
>I tried to search google on starting mailman on incoming mails for the
>lists, e.g. via inetd, but to no success.
>
>Do you have any ideas on a possible solution?


It is not necessary for Mailman to be running in order to accept
incoming Mailman mail. It will be passed to the mail/mailman wrapper
and queued whether or not Mailman is actually running. So, depending
on how much delay you can tolerate, you might be able to set up a cron
to start mailman say every 10 minutes and another to stop it say 1
minute later. You may need to experiment with this to insure that
queues don't get backlogged, but it might work.

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[Mailman-Users] Run mailman non-permanently?

2006-03-30 Thread Friedemann Schorer
Hi,
I'm running a Virtuozzo-based virtual Debian root-server (Sarge) which has
some limitations to trouble me a little - maybe you can help me a little?

The main problem for me is that there is a limited number of open files
allowed on that box, and mailman alone opens more than 600 altogether on
that box when started at system startup (according to 'lsof | grep -c
mailman')
Now that I turned mailman off the box runs smoothly, but I can't use the
lists anymore :(

I tried to search google on starting mailman on incoming mails for the
lists, e.g. via inetd, but to no success.

Do you have any ideas on a possible solution?


thx,


Friedemann


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[Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.5 and S/MIME

2006-03-30 Thread Liam Friel
Hi,

We've been using mailman for ages to manage lists from several of our sites: 
works fine, running 2.1.5

We are experimenting with S/MIME encryption of mail messages for several 
reasons.

A cursory experiment suggests the even with all content filtering turned off, 
mailman does not handle S/MIME encrypted
messages correctly.

1. Encrypted mails (smime.p7m attachments) arrive at their destination with the 
message body removed (ie subject only)
2. Signed mails (smime.p7s) arrive at their destination with the .p7s as an 
attachment

Now (2) above I guess may be more or less correct, since it is mailman who 
"sent" me the message and not the person who
signed it originally. However I don't understand (1) at all. Why did the 
encrypted S/MIME attachment just get dropped?

I have verified that both the signed and encrypted mails are correctly formed 
by mailing them direct to a recipient
rather then sending then via mailman.

I have had a quick look around on the web, but I didn't come across a 
definitive statement if/if not mailman supports
S/MIME encryption and signing of mails. 

Can someone clarify this for me, or point me at a link?

Ta
Liam



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Re: [Mailman-Users] Batch Processing

2006-03-30 Thread Dana Nevins
I am using the default Cpanel/exim configuration on redhat.

Dana



-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 9:21 PM
To: Dana Nevins
Cc: mailman-users@python.org
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Batch Processing

In a flurry of recycled electrons, Dana Nevins wrote:

> I have an announcement list with 45,000 members, when I send an email 
> not only does it severely overload the server but it also gets blocked 
> from performing DNS lookups after the first few thousand lookups.

Which MTA are you using? You may want to let mailman send it all to the MTA
and have the MTA slow the delivery. Postfix has some rate controls
(http://www.postfix.org/rate.html), I assume that most of the other MTAs do
too.

Or, I may be nuts :-).

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