[Mailman-Users] Archive search?
Is there a way for users to search the Mailman list archives (pipermail)? Larry -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Archive search?
Rosenbaum, Larry M. wrote: Is there a way for users to search the Mailman list archives (pipermail)? See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq01.011.htp. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Archive search?
On Wed, Apr 26, 2006 at 09:22:01AM -0400, Rosenbaum, Larry M. wrote: Is there a way for users to search the Mailman list archives (pipermail)? FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq01.011.htp -- Stephen R. Laniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: +(617) 308-5571 http://laniels.org/ PGP key: http://laniels.org/slaniel.key signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] error install MM on MAC OS x
On 4/25/06 8:43 PM, Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You need to install the Apple Developer Tools package that is on the Mac OS X CDs/DVDs that came with the computer or contained the OS upgrade you have installed. If you don't have the CDs/DVDs, you can download the Developer tools from Apple, but you should have the disks. The Developer Tools version on the Tiger DVD (the DVDs I have, at any rate) is not the current version, but that shouldn't matter for compiling Mailman (a task I've never attempted since I don't want to run Mailman on my Macs). The upgrade download is smaller than the full download, if I remember correctly (I usually set the machine to the task of downloading and go away). --John -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] moderation bit via command line
Is there a way to set the moderation bit (on/off) for a user on a specific list by the command line? The closest thing I have found is on http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2005-February/042392.html but I would like to stay away from using a python script like this if possible. -- Matthew Clarkson -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] moderation bit via command line
On 4/26/06, Matthew Clarkson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The closest thing I have found is on http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2005-February/042392.html but I would like to stay away from using a python script like this if possible. If you're using Mailman, I'm afraid you're already using python scripts... That said, I think bin/withlist is the only way to do this. -- - Patrick Bogen -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] -owner works, -admin doesn't...
SHORT VERSION...sending to -owner gets delivered fine, but sending to -admin gets vanishes (no bounce) and tallys a bounce count against the owner address. What would cause this?? LONG VERSION... BACKGROUND: - I have an announcement-style Mailman list (let's call it LIST) - LIST is hosted on a shared web server running cPanel - LIST is configured to send the owner subscription notifications THE PROBLEM: - A few weeks ago, I stopped getting subscription notifications - A few days later, I got a message from Mailman saying that my address had excessive bounces and was disabled. I had to re-enable MY OWN subscription. This prompted me to test the LIST-owner and LIST-admin addresses... - The -owner address is delivered to me just fine. - The -admin address never delivers. No bounce msg to sender either. - EVEN WORSE...each mail sent to -admin seems to get treated as a BOUNCE event against MY (owner) address! WHAT I'VE DONE: - I have checked my /etc/valiases/domain file and all the forwarders to mailman are exactly as they used to be. All looks perfect. - I tried creating a brand new list with all default settings...same problem. - I got other people from my web host to try the same on other servers...some work fine, and some servers have the same problem as mine. ANY IDEAS?? I found this thread from 3 years ago which seems to be a similar problem, but the thread fizzled without a solution: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2003-May/028650.html I'm ready to pull my hair out! Kris Wilk ReefNet Inc. www.reefnet.ca -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] No Mailman web pages appear.
In a flurry of recycled electrons, Andy wrote: Thanks for your reply. The admin tried everything he could and it still does not work. He has virtual hosts, and he suspects that perhaps Mailman cannot work with virtual hosts, only with proper WWW servers. Can you please confirm? There's no reason this should be the case. As long as the virtual hosts are set up to support CGI, it should work fine. On 4/25/06, Carl Zwanzig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is a virtual host v. a proper WWW server? I have mailman and apache nicely doing lists for a couple of different domains on one apache and one mailman instance. [Sorry, I missed the beginning of this thread.] I assume we're talking about Apache virtual hosts, here. -- - Patrick Bogen -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Can someone refresh my memory?
Our mail server crashed and we didn't have a back up of the Exim configuration file. We had some mailman lists running and I remember there was a command I put up at the top on the configuration file but I can't remember what is was. Can someone refresh my memory? I believe it was something along the lines of MM_LISTS=lists.list1.tld:lists.list2.tld Am I right? I already have the MAILMAN_HOME and MAILMAN_WRAP already set. Thanks! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] announce list creation script
I have just completed a new announcement list script.
I find that this is more complete and flexible than the current ones
which I could find on the net. Also, unlike all the other scripts, this
doesn't require bash (only sh), so it should be more cross platform, and
save people from having to install bash on systems which don't have it
on a default install.
Thanks Patrick for steering me on the right path earlier for setting the
moderation bit for a user.
Feel free to use it for whatever purpose if you wish to do so, also, you
can link to it at
http://www.netera.ca/mailinglists/MakeAnnounce.sh
http://www.netera.ca/mailinglists/changemod.py
--
Matthew Clarkson
from Mailman import mm_cfg
from Mailman.Errors import NotAMemberError
def setMemberModeratedFlag (mlist, addr, mod):
mlist.setMemberOption (addr, mm_cfg.Moderate, mod)
mlist.Save()
#!/bin/sh
#-
#
# Mailman Announce Script
# Apr 26 2006 - Matthew Clarkson (matt _at_ netera (dot) ca)
#
# This script will create an announce list out of specified mailing lists
# I have used two other scripts as a basis for this one, however, I find
# that this is much more flexible, and easier to use after set up.
# This script also uses sh, so you don't have to rely on a computer
# to have bash, unlike the other scripts, which makes it a bit friendlier
# to cross platform setups
#
# The reference scripts that I used are found at
# http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2005-February/042392.html
# http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2005-February/042392.html
#
# This script requires one other file to operate
# changemod.py, place this file in ~mailman/bin
#
# In order to operate, the list must be created first, with appropriate
# settings, I would recommend the following be selected
#
# /admin/netera-announce-l/general
# send_reminders - No
# send_welcome_msg - No
# send_goodbye_msg - No
# /admin/listname/privacy/sender
# default_member_moderation - Yes
# member_moderation_action - ( Reject | Discard )
# generic_nonmember_action - Discard
#
# This script uses the following files (I will use announce-l as my list)
#
# announce-l -list of mailing lists in mailman
# announce-l.extra - list of additional email address'
# announce-l.allow - list of email address' of people who can post
# the list
#
# The files must have the same name as the list itself, all files must
# be plaintext
#
#-
# General Usage message, it exits right after this is called
usage()
{
echo 12 usage: ./MakeAnnounce filename
exit 127
}
# We must have one, and only 1 argument for this script, other wise print
# the usage mssage to the user, and exit
if [ $# -ne 1 ]; then
usage
fi
# We must get the filename directly, since we want the list name, and not
# a name like /path/to/announce-l
filename=`basename $1`
# Make sure that there is a corresponding list for the filename, if not, print
# usage message and exit
EXISTS=`~mailman/bin/list_lists | grep -i $filename`
if [ -z $EXISTS ]; then
usage
fi
# Loop through the main file, collecting all address' from all the lists in
# the main file, and then adding them to /tmp/listname.tmp
while read -r current_line
do
# to verify that the list exists (using bin/list_lists)
EXISTS=`~mailman/bin/list_lists | grep -i $current_line | \
awk '{print $1 }'`
# if the list does not exist, print an error and continue on with the
# next line
if [ -z $EXISTS ]; then
printf ERROR: %s does not exist\n $current_line
else
# add every address in the current list to the announce file
printf Adding %s to list\n $current_line
`~mailman/bin/list_members $current_line \
/tmp/$filename.tmp`
fi
done $1
# if the .extra file exists, then add every address in this file to the
# announce file
if [ -f $1.extra ]; then
while read -r current_line
do
`echo $current_line /tmp/$filename.tmp`
done $1.extra
fi
# sort the list alphabetically and remove duplicates. sync_members will remove
# all duplicates, so the '-u' can be removed, although, it's easier to go
# through the text file when there are no dupes, if you ever want to do that.
cat /tmp/$filename.tmp | sort -u /tmp/$filename.tmp.final
# add all address' in the .tmp.final file. This also removes all address' from
# the list which are not in the .tmp.final file, output goes to /dev/null
Re: [Mailman-Users] Can someone refresh my memory?
On 4/26/06 12:30 PM, Tom Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Our mail server crashed and we didn't have a back up of the Exim configuration file. We had some mailman lists running and I remember there was a command I put up at the top on the configuration file but I can't remember what is was. Can someone refresh my memory? I believe it was something along the lines of MM_LISTS=lists.list1.tld:lists.list2.tld Am I right? I already have the MAILMAN_HOME and MAILMAN_WRAP already set. We don't have (or need) a list of the lists in the Exim configuration. Exim learns that a local part refers to a list by asking the file system (with the require_files doing the file system query and the two local_part_suffix things doing the work of turning, say listname-join, into listname for the lookup): mailman_router: driver = accept require_files = MAILMAN_HOME/lists/$local_part/config.pck local_part_suffix_optional local_part_suffix = -bounces : -bounces+* : \ -confirm+* : -join : -leave : \ -owner : -request : -admin transport = mailman_transport --John -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Can someone refresh my memory?
Thanks, but I had already got it I was looking for Domainlist mm_lists=lists.listone.tld -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of John W. Baxter Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 5:23 PM To: Mailman Users Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Can someone refresh my memory? On 4/26/06 12:30 PM, Tom Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Our mail server crashed and we didn't have a back up of the Exim configuration file. We had some mailman lists running and I remember there was a command I put up at the top on the configuration file but I can't remember what is was. Can someone refresh my memory? I believe it was something along the lines of MM_LISTS=lists.list1.tld:lists.list2.tld Am I right? I already have the MAILMAN_HOME and MAILMAN_WRAP already set. We don't have (or need) a list of the lists in the Exim configuration. Exim learns that a local part refers to a list by asking the file system (with the require_files doing the file system query and the two local_part_suffix things doing the work of turning, say listname-join, into listname for the lookup): mailman_router: driver = accept require_files = MAILMAN_HOME/lists/$local_part/config.pck local_part_suffix_optional local_part_suffix = -bounces : -bounces+* : \ -confirm+* : -join : -leave : \ -owner : -request : -admin transport = mailman_transport --John -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/tom%40det roitonline.com Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] List config files
Hi, I am setting up a bunch of mail lists on mailman 2.1.7 running on RedHat Ent Linux ver 3. For the most part, these lists have the same custom config. They are all private lists, non-members can subscribe to the list, etc. I would like to know where these individual mail list config files are stored. So I can just copy them over for the new lists. Thanks Tom -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Any easy way to remove one email address from a queued message?
Our mail server is choking on a (syntactically incorrect) recipient address for a message in Mailman's queue. The message has been delivered to some of the recipients, but Mailman keeps retrying this one address and not continuing with the rest: 2006-04-27 09:10:18 SMTP call from localhost (hostname.removed) [127.0.0.1] U=list dropped: too many syntax or protocol errors (last command was rcpt TO:'[EMAIL PROTECTED]') 2006-04-27 09:25:19 SMTP call from localhost (hostname.removed) [127.0.0.1] U=list dropped: too many syntax or protocol errors (last command was rcpt TO:'[EMAIL PROTECTED]') I've replaced the email address in those logs, but the invalid part is the ''s around it. Is there any way I can remove the invalid address from the message to allow it to deliver to the rest of the recipients? Thanks, Sam signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] question about web archives for a very large number of lists.
I am currently maintaining a mailman install that has 5000+ lists, many high volume. The archive volume is nearly 80GB in size between the archives and mboxes for the various lists. Even after doing acrobatics to only archive the lists that have changed within the last 24hours it is extremely time consuming to rebuild the archives from the cumulative mbox files. I am considering rotating the mbox daily, and only processing the the mbox for that day. This would mean using the arch without --wipe. My question is, what pitfalls do I need to lookout for with this approach? thanks, -- --Matt -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] -owner works, -admin doesn't...
Kris Wilk wrote: SHORT VERSION...sending to -owner gets delivered fine, but sending to -admin gets vanishes (no bounce) and tallys a bounce count against the owner address. What would cause this?? Short answer... The -admin address is a synonym for the -bounces address. LONG VERSION... - A few weeks ago, I stopped getting subscription notifications I don't know what would cause this since Mailman sends these to -owner. Mailman never sends to -admin. (I have an idea - see below) - A few days later, I got a message from Mailman saying that my address had excessive bounces and was disabled. I had to re-enable MY OWN subscription. I actually think there is or was a problem with delivery to your address and your address is or was actually bouncing. This prompted me to test the LIST-owner and LIST-admin addresses... - The -owner address is delivered to me just fine. - The -admin address never delivers. No bounce msg to sender either. - EVEN WORSE...each mail sent to -admin seems to get treated as a BOUNCE event against MY (owner) address! This should not be the case. Unless you specifically crafted the message to look like a DSN or other actual bounce notification, mail to the -admin address should be treated as an unrecognized bounce and forwarded to the owner as such. This leads me to think as above that at least some mail from mailman to you (like an unrecognized bounce notice or a subscription notice) is actually bouncing and it is this secondary bounce that is being registered. WHAT I'VE DONE: snip ANY IDEAS?? In Mailman 2.0, bounces were sent to the -admin address which was the owner. There was no automated bounce processing. In Mailman 2.1, automated bounce processing was introduced with bounces returned to the -bounces address. The contact the admin address was made the -owner address. The -admin address was deprecated but retained as a synonym for the -bounces address to handle transition bounces. Mailman never sends anything to or from the -admin address. Mail received at the -admin address is not scored as a bounce unless it is a recognized bounce format. Arbitrary test messages you send to -admin will be unrecognized bounces and if the option is set, will be forwarded to the -owner address and then to the actual owner. I think in your case, it is this unrecognized bounce notification that is in fact bouncing and scoring a bounce for you. I do not think your issue has anything to do with the handling of mail to -admin. I think some mail (notifications) from mailman to you are actually bouncing and this is what started a few weeks ago. Did you start or change the way you reject spam? If you have spam filtering, try white listing the -bounces address so notices from list-bounces will get through. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Any easy way to remove one email address from aqueued message?
Sam Cannell wrote: Our mail server is choking on a (syntactically incorrect) recipient address for a message in Mailman's queue. The message has been delivered to some of the recipients, but Mailman keeps retrying this one address and not continuing with the rest: Presumably, you are asking about removing this address from the queued message and not from the list. If you haven't removed it from the list and are having difficulty doing so, see http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.013.htp. Step one. The message is queued between retries in qfiles/retry. There is probably only the one entry, but if you need to check for sure, use bin/dumpdb or bin/show_qfiles to look at entries. Step two. Move the queue entries with the bad address out of the qfiles/ heierarchy. Step three. The hard way. If you are proficient with Python and Mailman, use bin/withlist to start an interactive session with the list. Load the message and the metadata from the queue entry .pck pickle, delete the bad address from the recips list in the metadata and then either call Mailman.Handlers.SMTPDirect.process(mlist, msg, msgdata) or repickle the message and metadata in a .pck file and put it in the out queue or the retry queue. Step three. The Easy way. Use bin/dumpdb or bin/show_qfiles to extract the message text from the queue entry or get it from the archive or the digest or the lists/listname/digest.mbox file and repost it to the list (maybe using bin/inject) with an apology to those who receive it twice. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] -owner works, -admin doesn't...
Kris Wilk wrote: Interesting idea...all I know for sure is that no matter what address I use as the owner (I've also tried setting it to an off-site gmail account), test mails of any format sent to -admin do not get to the owner. Mail sent to -admin doesn't go to the owner directly. It only goes in an unrecognized bounce notice if bounce_unrecognized_goes_to_list_owner is yes. Check Mailman's bounce log (if you can). When you send to -admin there should be an entry bounce message w/no discernable addresses: message-id and a forwarding unrecognized entry. Then if this is followed by a bounce scored for you or a 'already scored a bounce' for you, this is the owner notification that bounced. If you then turn off notifying the owner on unrecognized bounces, and you get the first message in the log, but not the second, you can be sure it is the owner notice that was bouncing. (You may need to wait for a processing n queued bounces) message before seeing the score messages.) Yet sending directly to -owner works just dandy. What's even more weird is that if subscribe notifications go to -owner, how would they bounce and my test messages to -owner not? They have different From: headers and different content. If it's filtering, maybe the From: in the case of your messages is white listed and the listname-owner that the notices are From: is not. But you say, the messages don't get to even an owner with a gmail address, so any filtering would have to be applied by the Mailman host at the outgoing SMTP level to be the cause of this issue. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Any easy way to remove one email address from aqueued message?
On Wed, 2006-04-26 at 18:36 -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote: Sam Cannell wrote: Our mail server is choking on a (syntactically incorrect) recipient address for a message in Mailman's queue. The message has been Step three. The hard way. If you are proficient with Python and Mailman, use bin/withlist to start an interactive session with the list. Load the message and the metadata from the queue entry .pck pickle, delete the bad address from the recips list in the metadata and then either call Mailman.Handlers.SMTPDirect.process(mlist, msg, msgdata) or repickle the message and metadata in a .pck file and put it in the out queue or the retry queue. I'd prefer to do it this way, however I haven't really worked much with that side of mailman. I've looked around the mailman site for information about the classes and functions I have access to through withlist, but haven't had a lot of luck. Is there any documentation like this online? Thanks, Sam signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Any easy way to remove one email address fromaqueued message?
Sam Cannell wrote:
I'd prefer to do it this way, however I haven't really worked much with
that side of mailman. I've looked around the mailman site for
information about the classes and functions I have access to through
withlist, but haven't had a lot of luck. Is there any documentation
like this online?
You want to do this under withlist just to provide the proper
environment for the unpickling. In my previous message I suggested
calling the process() function in SMTPDirect.py as a posibility, but I
think that may not work because SMTPDirect expects to be called from
OutgoingRunner. Anyway, I did a little test as follows:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ bin/withlist list1
Loading list list1 (unlocked)
The variable `m' is the list1 MailList instance
import pickle
fp = open('path/to/queue/entry.pck','rb')
msg = pickle.load(fp)
msgdata = pickle.load(fp)
fp.close()
msgdata['recips']
['[EMAIL PROTECTED]']
You may or may not want to do this as the list may be large
At this point you probably want to do something like
r = msgdata['recips']
del r[r.index('[EMAIL PROTECTED]')]
msgdata['recips'] = r
Then write it to a new pickle:
fp = open('path/to/new/entry.pck','wb')
pickle.dump(msg, fp)
pickle.dump(msgdata, fp)
fp.close()
(control-D here to quit)
Finalizing
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$
At this point, you may want to check with show_qfiles or dumpdb to see
that the new entry looks right. You could diff the outputs of dumpdb
applied to both pickle files to see that only the recips list changed.
Ultimately, you want to give the new file the same name as the old (the
name consists of a time and a hash and should be the right format),
and then move it to the out queue and Mailman will do the rest.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Any easy way to remove one email address fromaqueued message?
On Wed, 2006-04-26 at 21:03 -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote: Ultimately, you want to give the new file the same name as the old (the name consists of a time and a hash and should be the right format), and then move it to the out queue and Mailman will do the rest. Fantastic .. I'll have a play around with that. Thanks so much for your help! Sam signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
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hello there... i got same problem with http://lists.apple.com/archives/macos-x-server/2004/Jan/msg01683.html on my /usr/share/mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'bemicom' DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'bemicom' the administrator = bemicom administrator email = [EMAIL PROTECTED] user email = [EMAIL PROTECTED] when i checked list of enable mailing lists.. other menu shows up .. i don't understand ..on list password entry... i've search documents..to solve it but it's not match to solve pls tell me how to solve it.. show me the simple way or giving me a little example .. thank you.. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Movies - Search movie info and celeb profiles and photos. http://sg.movies.yahoo.com/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Can mm_cfg.py use includes?
Greetings... I'm installing a new virtual mail server using Debian
Sarge, PostgreSQL, Postfix, Dovecot, Mailman, and PostfixAdmin. I'm
trying to automate/tie as much of the administrative configuration
into the PostfixAdmin web interface PostgreSQL database as
possible. The only thing in the entire setup that doesn't have
direct query access to the SQL database is Mailman. What I want to
do is create an hourly cron job to run a script which pulls the names
of the virtual domains from the database and creates the necessary
addvirtualhost('lists.%s', 'lists.%s') configuration items in
mm_cfg.py. If I end up needing to use a new domain for mailing lists
more quickly than an hour, I can just run the script manually.
I figure that the easiest way to do that would be to have the script
put those configuration items in a separate file and just use
something like Apache's Include directive to read it into the
configuration.
I'm not terribly familiar with Python programming, and the only thing
I can find that's similar to what I want to do is the import
command. It's not working like I'd hoped because when I add a from
vhosts_cfg import * to mm_cfg.py, the Mailman web scripts just come
back with We've found a bug! errors and nothing shows up in
/var/log/mailman/error. I did remember to create an
/etc/mailman/vhosts_cfg.py test file with correct addvirtualhost()
usage syntax and made a symlink to it in /var/lib/mailman/Mailman, so
it shouldn't be a matter of a missing file.
I'm not sure what I'm missing or even if this is the best way to
accomplish the task, and rather than go through the time-consuming
task of learning the semantics of another programming languate, I
figured I'd ask the experts. :) If anyone knows of a good way to do
this, I'd greatly appreciate a heads-up. If this ends up being some
sort of informal feature request to be included in the next latest
and greatest version, that'd be cool too. Thanks in advance for any
help offered!
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Can mm_cfg.py use includes?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm not terribly familiar with Python programming, and the only thing
I can find that's similar to what I want to do is the import
command. It's not working like I'd hoped because when I add a from
vhosts_cfg import * to mm_cfg.py, the Mailman web scripts just come
back with We've found a bug! errors and nothing shows up in
/var/log/mailman/error. I did remember to create an
/etc/mailman/vhosts_cfg.py test file with correct addvirtualhost()
usage syntax and made a symlink to it in /var/lib/mailman/Mailman, so
it shouldn't be a matter of a missing file.
import is not include
You can't just put an add_virtualhost('a','b') line in a file and
import it into mm_cfg.py, because 'add_virtualhost' is undefined in
the file you're importing.
You don't get an error log entry because the traceback logging in
scripts/driver does this
try:
from Mailman.mm_cfg import VERSION
except ImportError:
VERSION = 'lt;undeterminedgt;'
but when you have syntax or other errors occurring in the import, the
exception thrown is not ImportError and the whole thing dies right
there. You might find the error in the web server's error log.
To actually see what the problem is, do
cd /var/lib/mailman/Mailman
python
import mm_cfg
And you'll see the errors. This won't necessarily tell you what to do,
but it will tell you what you can't do.
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