Re: [Mailman-Users] error install MM on MAC OS x
Hi again, I found time to look for the minimal guide I had done: http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-install/node50.html Look down towards the bottom of that page you should be able to see it's steps - the steps should also apply to OSX 10.4.x -- Bye for now, Terry Allen ___ hEARd Postal Address: hEARd, 26B Glenning Rd, Glenning Valley, NSW 2261, Australia Internet - WWW: http://heard.com.au http://itavservices.com EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: Australia - 02 4388 1400 / International - + 61 2 43881400 Mobile: Australia - 04 28881400 / International - 61 4 28881400 --- Non profit promotion for new music - since 1994 --- -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Getting duplicates when people CC list
It seems I am getting duplicate messages from mailman v2.1.5 when senders send both TO and CC to the list. For some reason no one else in the list is acknowledging this issue so I look like an idiot complaining about it, but I'm seeing several instances of it per day. I do not get dupes of all mails otherwise I'd suspect double subscription. The Avoid Duplicates flag is set. This only happens for mails that have the list in the CC - I understand the dupe flag is for when people use ReplyAll and the recipient is in both the list of subscribers and the CC for the mail. I believe the code is supposed to filter duplicate Message-IDs to a given recipient no matter how those dupes are generated, but I'm getting them. Any ideas? Thank you kindly. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Getting duplicates when people CC list
At 8:28 AM + 2006-04-30, Tony G wrote: I do not get dupes of all mails otherwise I'd suspect double subscription. The Avoid Duplicates flag is set. This only happens for mails that have the list in the CC - I understand the dupe flag is for when people use ReplyAll and the recipient is in both the list of subscribers and the CC for the mail. It's not just the recipient, but the exact same recipient address. So, if you're subscribed to the list with one address, and they cc: a different address of yours, then the system has no way to tell that these are both the same person. I believe the code is supposed to filter duplicate Message-IDs to a given recipient no matter how those dupes are generated, but I'm getting them. Any ideas? No, the code doesn't work at the Message-ID level. It works at the level of the listed recipients in the To: and CC: headers. If you want filtering done at the Message-ID level, then you need to apply that on your end -- either use a program like procmail to filter all your incoming mail, or set up your MUA to discard duplicates, etc There's nothing more that Mailman can do to help you. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 LOPSA member since December 2005. See http://www.lopsa.org/. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Getting duplicates when people CC list
Tony G wrote: It seems I am getting duplicate messages from mailman v2.1.5 when senders send both TO and CC to the list. For some reason no one else in the list is acknowledging this issue so I look like an idiot complaining about it, but I'm seeing several instances of it per day. Brad has already provided good information in his reply. I just want to add that it looks to me like in this case, the sender's MUA is actually giving the list address twice (once for To: and once for Cc:) to the MTA, and the MTA is not dropping the duplicate recipient. Thus, two copies of the post are actually being sent to the list. Do the duplicates appear twice in archives and/or digests? (I think the duplicate may be dropped from the archives if the message-id is the same, but I'm not sure). Other subscribers may not see this because their incoming MTA/MUA may drop duplicate message-ids. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Recompiling question.
Brad Knowles wrote: At 10:36 PM -0700 2006-04-29, William D. Tallman wrote: Reason I ask is that a simple recompile wasn't exactly addressed in the UPGRADE text, although I did get that I should shut things down while redoing the binaries. The problem is that you're thinking of Python as if it were C. It's not. In Python, we replace the source code files, and let Python do a recompile on-the-fly, if such is called for. Actually, in this particular case, it is C. The only thing that needs changing in the installation is the mail wrapper. The minimal steps to do this without actually going into the configure and Makefile files and only doing pieces is 0) cd to the source top level (unpack) directory 1) configure with new --with-mail-gid option 2) cd src/ 3) make mailman 4) cp mailman $(exec-prefix)/mail/ Alternatively, you can skip rerunning configure and just cd to the src/ directory edit Makefile to put the correct group in the MAIL_GROUP= definition go to step 3) -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] error install MM on MAC OS x
Again, I was just trying to help a newbie user. And thank you, Dan, for clarifying the misinformation about Mailman on OS X Server. I thought that I had made it clear that the Mailman interfaces work just fine there and that as far as Mailman is concerned, there's no need for Apple support. Either you use the Apple custom management GUI with the Apple-modified versions of the old code, or you use the new code (with the new features and the security fixes) with the standard Mailman web or CLI management interface. This statement by Brad is simply hogwash. Allan -- _ | Allan Hansen, Ph.D. | |P.O. Box 2423, Cypress, CA 90630, U.S.A. | | | | Work: Home:| | Phone: +1-714/952-6015 +1-714/875-8870 | | Fax: +1-714/952-6746 | | Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]| | WWW: http://www.ugs.com http://www.rc.org/ | | | |_Anything is possible with the right tools and right information_| -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] error install MM on MAC OS x
At 8:23 AM -0700 2006-04-30, Allan Hansen wrote: Again, I was just trying to help a newbie user. And thank you, Dan, for clarifying the misinformation about Mailman on OS X Server. I thought that I had made it clear that the Mailman interfaces work just fine there and that as far as Mailman is concerned, there's no need for Apple support. Either you use the Apple custom management GUI with the Apple-modified versions of the old code, or you use the new code (with the new features and the security fixes) with the standard Mailman web or CLI management interface. This statement by Brad is simply hogwash. I'm not personally acquainted with Mailman on MacOS X Server, so I had no information as to whether or not the standard Mailman web CLI admin interfaces would be available. However, regardless of whether or not you can use the Mailman standard web or CLI admin interfaces, I'm pretty sure that Apple doesn't support this method. Everything else I have said regarding Mailman on MacOS X Server is still applicable, and comes from first-hand accounts by people who work at Apple and others who have tried using their customized versions of the software. You can provide your own alternative experience on this subject, but every single other person I have heard from so far have been universally negative -- especially including the people at Apple themselves, including programmers who are responsible for development on other aspects of MacOS X. Apple has earned a very bad reputation with regards to MacOS X Server, both with this project, and with other projects whose software they have misappropriated and tacked on their own custom management interface, and then proceeded to provide *zero* support to their paying customers -- including extremely large Universities with tens of thousands of installed clients and at least hundreds or thousands of installed servers. The result is that those paying customers come to us for support, but we're very limited in what we can do to help, because Apple has not shared with us their modifications. This is about the worst thing that any OS vendor can do to an open source project. And Apple's done it to us in spades. Apple's not the only offender here -- cPanel is another, while Plesk at least sticks fairly closely to the version of the code that we shipped years ago and you can drop in a more recent version if you know what you're doing. This is a really old argument. You don't want to go down this road. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 LOPSA member since December 2005. See http://www.lopsa.org/. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Getting duplicates when people CC list
Brad Knowles wrote: Tony G wrote: I do not get dupes of all mails otherwise I'd suspect double subscription. The Avoid Duplicates flag is set. This only happens for mails that have the list in the CC - I understand the dupe flag is for when people use ReplyAll and the recipient is in both the list of subscribers and the CC for the mail. It's not just the recipient, but the exact same recipient address. So, if you're subscribed to the list with one address, and they cc: a different address of yours, then the system has no way to tell that these are both the same person. No one on this list has any other address of mine and the dupes aren't to threads where I have posted. Checking with individuals and the headers I am not being sent mail from anywhere except mailman. I believe the code is supposed to filter duplicate Message-IDs to a given recipient no matter how those dupes are generated, but I'm getting them. Any ideas? No, the code doesn't work at the Message-ID level. It works at the level of the listed recipients in the To: and CC: headers. I was mislead by discussions like these: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-developers/2001-August/009467.htm l http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-developers/2002-March/010911.html And this code referred to in one of those threads: http://www.opensource.apple.com/darwinsource/Current/mailman-117/mailman/M ailman/Handlers/AvoidDuplicates.py If you want filtering done at the Message-ID level, then you need to apply that on your end -- either use a program like procmail to filter all your incoming mail, or set up your MUA to discard duplicates, etc There's nothing more that Mailman can do to help you. I am filtering the dupes. What confuses me is that they are only coming from one list that uses mailman. You sent TO me and CC'd the list but I only got one copy as one would hope. It's for this reason that I suspect that this other list (mono-list at ximian) have some broken version of Mailman. Of course they put the blame back on my server or MUA. All I'm trying to do here is diagnose and help people to fix open source software. Isn't that why we're all here? Thanks. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Getting duplicates when people CC list
Mark Sapiro wrote: Brad has already provided good information in his reply. I just want to add that it looks to me like in this case, the sender's MUA is actually giving the list address twice (once for To: and once for Cc:) to the MTA, and the MTA is not dropping the duplicate recipient. Thus, two copies of the post are actually being sent to the list. As I mentioned in my response to Brad, I'm not even involved in the discussions where I'm getting the dupes. This would be an obvious source of duplication. I'm just another quiet recipient to the list (hehe, until now anyway) and there's no reason for me to be explicitly identified in the TO or CC. Do the duplicates appear twice in archives and/or digests? (I think the duplicate may be dropped from the archives if the message-id is the same, but I'm not sure). No, only one copy of every post is in the archives and no one else is reporting dupes. Other subscribers may not see this because their incoming MTA/MUA may drop duplicate message-ids. As with most OSS projects there is a heavy bias away from Microsoft software, including Outlook which I use. Chances are slim that others in this OSS forum are using Outlook and thus their MUAs might be filtering away the problem. So I was suspecting my MUA. However, I do not get dupes when people in this mailman-users list CC the list but I do get some dupes from that group - obviously the same MTA/MUA tiers are involved. This is why I have been suspecting something in the list software that is different. Maybe there's a patch or addin that they've installed that corrupted this dupe-filtering code? That's what brought me here - Until now I've had no idea if this was an issue specific to that group or something that was introduced in the v2.1.5 code that you guys would know or want to know about. Thanks again. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Getting duplicates when people CC list
Tony G wrote: I was mislead by discussions like these: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-developers/2001-August/009467.html http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-developers/2002-March/010911.html Yes, but these are discussions of a suggested patch that isn't in the current distribution. And this code referred to in one of those threads: http://www.opensource.apple.com/darwinsource/Current/mailman-117/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/AvoidDuplicates.py This is presumably Apple's code, not ours, but it does essentially what our AvoidDuplicates handler does which is not send to any list member who has requested to avoid duplicates and who's address is in the To: or Cc: of the message. This doesn't avoid sending two messages with the same message id to the same person. It only avoids sending a post from the list to the user if the user might have received it directly and we can determine that. More in my next reply. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Getting duplicates when people CC list
Tony G wrote: Mark Sapiro wrote: Brad has already provided good information in his reply. I just want to add that it looks to me like in this case, the sender's MUA is actually giving the list address twice (once for To: and once for Cc:) to the MTA, and the MTA is not dropping the duplicate recipient. Thus, two copies of the post are actually being sent to the list. As I mentioned in my response to Brad, I'm not even involved in the discussions where I'm getting the dupes. This would be an obvious source of duplication. I'm just another quiet recipient to the list (hehe, until now anyway) and there's no reason for me to be explicitly identified in the TO or CC. Right, but you said when you receive duplicates, the list was addressed twice in the post, once in To: and once in Cc:. Thus, I am suggesting that the list actually receives the post twice and sends it twice and that's why you get two copies. Do the duplicates appear twice in archives and/or digests? (I think the duplicate may be dropped from the archives if the message-id is the same, but I'm not sure). No, only one copy of every post is in the archives and no one else is reporting dupes. Does anyone receive digests to confirm or deny the presense of dups in a digest. I haven't looked at the code for this right now, but as I said, I think pipermail may drop dups from the archive, so the absence of dups in the archive is not definitive. There may be something here with digests too, but I don't think so. Other subscribers may not see this because their incoming MTA/MUA may drop duplicate message-ids. As with most OSS projects there is a heavy bias away from Microsoft software, including Outlook which I use. Chances are slim that others in this OSS forum are using Outlook and thus their MUAs might be filtering away the problem. So I was suspecting my MUA. However, I do not get dupes when people in this mailman-users list CC the list but I do get some dupes from that group - obviously the same MTA/MUA tiers are involved. The process of your not getting a dup when I address my reply to both you and the list IS a Mailman process. You only get the direct message from me because you have requested no dups, and Mailman sees your address in the To: of my post so it doesn't send to you. This is not the case on the other list where maybe the list receives the post twice. This is why I have been suspecting something in the list software that is different. Maybe there's a patch or addin that they've installed that corrupted this dupe-filtering code? That's what brought me here - Until now I've had no idea if this was an issue specific to that group or something that was introduced in the v2.1.5 code that you guys would know or want to know about. I don't think it's Mailman per se, but I can't be sure without knowing what is happening. I still think it could be actually two copies of the post reaching the list, but the fact that no one else on the list admits to receiving dups makes this seem unlikely. I would like to help you get to the bottom of this if I can. I think the next thing is to collect both copies of some duplicated posts with full headers and examine the Received: chains in each to try to determine where the duplication is occurring. If you need help with this, you can post headers from duplicated posts to this list or send them to me off list, and I will try to help. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Getting duplicates when people CC list
Mark Sapiro wrote: I think the next thing is to collect both copies of some duplicated posts with full headers and examine the Received: chains in each to try to determine where the duplication is occurring. Another thing you can do if you have access to Mailman's logs is to check the post and smtp logs to see if the entire post is being sent twice. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Getting duplicates when people CC list
Mark Sapiro wrote: .. you said when you receive duplicates, the list was addressed twice in the post, once in To: and once in Cc:. Thus, I am suggesting that the list actually receives the post twice and sends it twice and that's why you get two copies. I mis-spoke. It only occurs in that one list when someone CC's the list. I would understand if it were in both TO _and_ CC. Since all lists and MUA's are different, people don't know whether to Reply or Reply-All, so it's 50/50 whether the list address will be in the TO _or_ CC, but most people know to not double up. There may be something here with digests too, but I don't think so. I have not asked about digests but I don't think I'll find anything there either. The process of your not getting a dup when I address my reply to both you and the list IS a Mailman process. You only get the direct message from me because you have requested no dups, and Mailman sees your address in the To: of my post so it doesn't send to you. This is not the case on the other list where maybe the list receives the post twice. Remember that I am not involved in the discussions where I get the dupes. I understand the mailman code filters possible dupes when TO = a subscription address. I have confirmation from a single Outlook user that I get dupes when they do not. (I wish I had a larger sampling of responses over a longer period of time but I'll take what I can get.) This points to an MTA issue and not list or MUA. I am now checking in that area. Again the problem is that I only get dupes to this one address when the list is in the CC. I can't believe an MTA bug would be that specific so it might be some timing issue, a hiccup during greylisting processing, etc. I don't think it's Mailman per se, but I can't be sure without knowing what is happening. I still think it could be actually two copies of the post reaching the list, but the fact that no one else on the list admits to receiving dups makes this seem unlikely. I would like to help you get to the bottom of this if I can. I think the next thing is to collect both copies of some duplicated posts with full headers and examine the Received: chains in each to try to determine where the duplication is occurring. If you need help with this, you can post headers from duplicated posts to this list or send them to me off list, and I will try to help. Over the last month or two I have been going over the headers myself and the headers on each copy of the mails are exactly the same: same Received path and time stamps, and same Message-ID (!!). The only pattern between what generates dupes and what does not is that the list address is in the CC of duped mails - but only on that list, not in this mailman-users list. :( Please allow me a few days to pursue the MTA route and I'll post a note here to let you know if I find anything. Based on your comments and info from the other list I'm fairly convinced that I shouldn't be wasting any more of your collective time. But I will let you know what I find out. Thank you kindly for your dedicated interest. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Getting duplicates when people CC list
On 4/30/06, Tony G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Over the last month or two I have been going over the headers myself and the headers on each copy of the mails are exactly the same: same Received path and time stamps, and same Message-ID (!!). The only pattern between what generates dupes and what does not is that the list address is in the CC of duped mails - but only on that list, not in this mailman-users list. :( Please allow me a few days to pursue the MTA route and I'll post a note here to let you know if I find anything. Based on your comments and info from the other list I'm fairly convinced that I shouldn't be wasting any more of your collective time. But I will let you know what I find out. Thank you kindly for your dedicated interest. I haven't been following this thread too carefully, but a couple of things clicked together based on some duplicate issues I've seen with my users. Just to recap the details as I recall them 1) You are the only one seeing the duplicate e-mails 2) You are using Outlook. 3) Duplicate e-mails are idendical down to the header level. 4) Only happens on 1 list. 5) Only happens when the list is in the CC header. If all the above are correct, check your Outlook rules. Outlook may be the cause of the duplicates. I've spent a TON of time trying to diagnose this for one user and it turned out it was her Outlook rules that caused the duplicate. I don't use Outlook myself, but try disabling the rule for a while and see if the duplicates still happen. If not, then recreate the rule. I know this isn't Mailman related, but I think that this may be a good cause for the archive. -- Bryan Carbonnell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting What a great ride! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Getting duplicates when people CC list
At 5:49 PM -0700 2006-04-30, Tony G wrote: Over the last month or two I have been going over the headers myself and the headers on each copy of the mails are exactly the same: same Received path and time stamps, and same Message-ID (!!). The only pattern between what generates dupes and what does not is that the list address is in the CC of duped mails - but only on that list, not in this mailman-users list. :( If the headers really are completely identical, including all queue ids and time stamps in the Received: headers, then the only machine that could be causing the duplication is the MTA of your mail services provider. With a few header samples of various messages, we should be able to figure out what's going on. Or, at least get a better idea of what additional information we may need. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 LOPSA member since December 2005. See http://www.lopsa.org/. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
