[Mailman-Users] Password Reminders Sent Incorrently

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Hi Guys

 

We picked up that password reminders were sent to subscribers of our lists
where the Password Reminder Option was set to OFF. What could be the cause
of this erratic behavior ?

 

 

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[Mailman-Users] Simplifying management of multiple list subscriptions for users on same domain

[Ricardo Scachetti Pereira]

Dear List,

I'm running a number of mailing lists on a single domain and I was 
wondering whether there is any way to make it simpler to the user to 
manage multiple subscriptions.

I am aware of the "Change globally" and "Set globally" check boxes 
for email, real name, password, email distribution, etc. Those are a 
great help. But I would like to simplify some other tasks, such as:
- Let users sign up for more than one list at a time.
- Let users go from the subscription management page on one list to 
another (using the "List my other subscriptions" button) without having 
to type the password again (given that the passwords are the same)?

I browsed the list admin options, googled, searched the mailing 
lists and the FAQ and couldn't find what I wanted.

Any help is greatly appreciated.

Best regards,

Ricardo


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[Mailman-Users] Scrubbing charset-unspecified text

[Roger Lynn]

Hi,

I'm running Mailman 2.1.7, packaged for Debian (although I don't think
that's relevant to this question). A list that I administer has non-digest
scrubbing enabled. An email was recently sent to it with the following headers:

Content-Type: text/plain
Content-Disposition: inline
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.411 (Entity 5.404)
Date: Mon, 01 May 2006 18:47:30 +0100
Subject: [...]
To: [...]
From: [...]
X-Mailer: SINA Webmail 6.00.
Reply-To: [...]
X-Sina-Mail-Agent: sinadeliver-6.00-1.97
Message-Id: [...]
X-Virus-Scanned: by myinternet myAV on ngflrtr1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

This resulted in the contents of the email being replaced with:

An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed...
Name: not available
Url: http://[...]/attachments/20060501/aad799ed/attachment.ksh

Why is it necessary to scrub plain text in this instance, when no character
set is specified? Couldn't it just be assumed that it is us-ascii?

If I were to comment out the following code from process() in Scrubber.py,
would there be any consequences other than allowing messages like the above
through to the list?

# TK: if part is attached then check charset and scrub if none
if part.get('content-disposition') and \
   not part.get_content_charset():
omask = os.umask(002)
try:
url = save_attachment(mlist, part, dir)
finally:
os.umask(omask)
filename = part.get_filename(_('not available'))
filename = Utils.oneline(filename, lcset)
replace_payload_by_text(part, _("""\
An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed...
Name: %(filename)s
Url: %(url)s
"""), lcset)

Incidentally, why does the attachment have the suffix ".ksh"? It seems
rather unusual. I'm using the following settings:

SCRUBBER_DONT_USE_ATTACHMENT_FILENAME   = False
SCRUBBER_USE_ATTACHMENT_FILENAME_EXTENSION = True

Thanks for any help,

Roger

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[Mailman-Users] alias.db not getting updated

[Tony Bibbs]

I've recently added a mailman list and have run
bin/genaliases and put that data in the data/aliases
and restarted both postfix and mailman.

Apparently this isn't updating the alias.db which
explains why all 'old' lists still work but any new
ones don't.

Any ideas on what I may have done wrong here?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-Developers] Sender field

[Barry Warsaw]

On Mon, 2006-05-01 at 18:16 -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote:
> Neal Groothuis wrote:
> >
> >Mailman is not the originator of the message, so it should 
> >not be tampering with the From: or Sender: fields at all.
> 
> 
> This is arguably not true. Mailman may add a list header and/or list
> footer to the body of the message as well as potentially filtering or
> scrubbing various MIME parts. The message sent by Mailman can be
> significantly different from the one originally received.

The copy that Mailman sends is almost always modified in some way, and
given the ambiguities in the standards, I think it's defensible to say
that Mailman is the originator of the messages received by list members.

-Barry



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Re: [Mailman-Users] alias.db not getting updated

[Stephen R Laniel]

On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 06:57:53AM -0700, Tony Bibbs wrote:
> I've recently added a mailman list and have run
> bin/genaliases and put that data in the data/aliases
> and restarted both postfix and mailman.
> 
> Apparently this isn't updating the alias.db which
> explains why all 'old' lists still work but any new
> ones don't.

To generate alias.db, you need to run Postfix's 'newaliases'
command.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-Developers] Sender field

[Barry Warsaw]

On Mon, 2006-05-01 at 13:27 -0500, Neal Groothuis wrote:
> > I'd like to work up an unofficial diff to Mailman 2.1 for people like
> > Stephen who are willing to give it a try on a live site.  
> 
> I'm not sure this is even necessary.
> 
> Ezmlm doesn't touch the Sender: header at all, Majordomo sets it to the 
> owner of the list, and (AFAICT) Listserv sets it to the list itself. 
> This would seem to me to indicate that incidences of mail being returned 
> inappropriately to the sender are infrequent, at worst.

As I said, I think it's defensible to claim Mailman is the originator,
but practicality beats purity, and I do think a list manager falls into
a gray area here.

Having said all that, you might be right, in that we really don't need
to do much except remove the addition of the Sender: header in
bulkdeliver().

-Barry



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Re: [Mailman-Users] Password Reminders Sent Incorrently

[Mark Sapiro]

MailList wrote:
>
>We picked up that password reminders were sent to subscribers of our lists
>where the Password Reminder Option was set to OFF. What could be the cause
>of this erratic behavior ?


Is it possible that these members were receiving reminders from OTHER
lists on the same server?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] alias.db not getting updated

[Mark Sapiro]

Stephen R Laniel wrote:
>
>On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 06:57:53AM -0700, Tony Bibbs wrote:
>> I've recently added a mailman list and have run
>> bin/genaliases and put that data in the data/aliases
>> and restarted both postfix and mailman.
>
>To generate alias.db, you need to run Postfix's 'newaliases'
>command.


If Mailman is corectly set up to integrate with Postfix, alias
generation and updating is automatic upon list creation/deletion or
running of genaliases.

This requires

MTA = 'Postfix'

in mm_cfg.py and possibly a setting for POSTFIX_ALIAS_CMD if the default

POSTFIX_ALIAS_CMD = '/usr/sbin/postalias'

is not correct. It also requires a change to the Postfix configuration.
See .

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Scrubbing charset-unspecified text

[Mark Sapiro]

Roger Lynn wrote:
>
>I'm running Mailman 2.1.7, packaged for Debian (although I don't think
>that's relevant to this question). A list that I administer has non-digest
>scrubbing enabled. An email was recently sent to it with the following headers:
>
>Content-Type: text/plain
>Content-Disposition: inline
>MIME-Version: 1.0
>X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.411 (Entity 5.404)
>Date: Mon, 01 May 2006 18:47:30 +0100
>Subject: [...]
>To: [...]
>From: [...]
>X-Mailer: SINA Webmail 6.00.
>Reply-To: [...]
>X-Sina-Mail-Agent: sinadeliver-6.00-1.97
>Message-Id: [...]
>X-Virus-Scanned: by myinternet myAV on ngflrtr1
>Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


Which seems like a mal-formed message. The issue is the

Content-Disposition: inline

which should only appear in sub-part headers, not in the message
headers.


>This resulted in the contents of the email being replaced with:
>
>An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed...
>Name: not available
>Url: http://[...]/attachments/20060501/aad799ed/attachment.ksh
>
>Why is it necessary to scrub plain text in this instance, when no character
>set is specified? Couldn't it just be assumed that it is us-ascii?


It is a bug or at least insufficiently robust code. We shouldn't be
relying on the Content-Disposition: header to determine a sub-part.


>If I were to comment out the following code from process() in Scrubber.py,
>would there be any consequences other than allowing messages like the above
>through to the list?


Yes. The consequence is that you could get a message which contained an
actual "charset-unspecified text" attachment with an actual character
set different from that of the first text/plain part and then these
two parts with perhaps incompatible character sets would be
'flattened' together into one part.


Here is a suggested change to the code you quoted.

Replace

if part.get('content-disposition') and \
   not part.get_content_charset():
omask = os.umask(002)

with

if part.get('content-disposition') and \
   msg.is_multipart() and \
   not part.get_content_charset():
omask = os.umask(002)

This is not really a proper fix, but I think it will avoid the problem
in your case.

>
>Incidentally, why does the attachment have the suffix ".ksh"? It seems
>rather unusual. I'm using the following settings:
>
>SCRUBBER_DONT_USE_ATTACHMENT_FILENAME  = False
>SCRUBBER_USE_ATTACHMENT_FILENAME_EXTENSION = True


There is no 'filename' in what we mistakenly think is an attachment, so
we guess the extension based on the Content-Type: which is text/plain.

We use effectively the Python library call

mimetypes.guess_all_extensions('text/plain', strict=False)

which returns this list

['.ksh', '.asc', '.h', '.c', '.txt']

and we pick the first one.

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[Mailman-Users] Privacy preferences changed automatically

[Bob Bergey]

Can anyone suggest why my settings on a number of my lists would have 
changed seemingly by themselves? Most of my lists are set for 
"Confirm" under the privacy settings, but several changed a couple of 
days ago to "Confirm and Approve." It happened once before, several 
months ago, also. I changed them back, and the settings are seeming 
to hold for now, but I don't understand why this would have changed 
on its own. Happened to at least five of my lists, all on the same 
day and probably at the same time.

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[Mailman-Users] qrunner restarts every 15 minutes

[Joern Allmers]

Hello,

I'm quite new to mailman so if you need more info I'll provide them - just 
tell me what you need!

I have a Debian Stable server with the Debian mailman package (Version: 
2.1.5-8sarge2) installed. 

Mailman works great and everything could be fine if not it was restarting 
every 15 minutes:

/var/log/qrunner:
May 02 20:00:02 2006 (12030) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit
(pid: 32369, sig: 9, sts: None, class: RetryRunner, slice: 1/1) [restarting]
May 02 20:00:03 2006 (12030) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit
(pid: 32462, sig: 9, sts: None, class: BounceRunner, slice: 1/1) [restarting]
May 02 20:00:03 2006 (12030) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit
(pid: 32581, sig: 9, sts: None, class: VirginRunner, slice: 1/1) [restarting]
May 02 20:00:04 2006 (12030) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit
(pid: 32753, sig: 9, sts: None, class: IncomingRunner, slice: 1/1) 
[restarting]
May 02 20:00:05 2006 (12030) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit
(pid: 1377, sig: 9, sts: None, class: CommandRunner, slice: 1/1) [restarting]
May 02 20:00:11 2006 (12030) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit
(pid: 1398, sig: 9, sts: None, class: ArchRunner, slice: 1/1) [restarting]
May 02 20:00:11 2006 (12030) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit
(pid: 1439, sig: 9, sts: None, class: OutgoingRunner, slice: 1/1) [restarting]
May 02 20:00:22 2006 (20340) RetryRunner qrunner started.
May 02 20:00:24 2006 (21508) BounceRunner qrunner started.
May 02 20:00:24 2006 (23670) CommandRunner qrunner started.
May 02 20:00:26 2006 (21931) IncomingRunner qrunner started.
May 02 20:00:27 2006 (23706) OutgoingRunner qrunner started.
May 02 20:00:27 2006 (21705) VirginRunner qrunner started.
May 02 20:00:29 2006 (23682) ArchRunner qrunner started.


10 times and the max restarts is reached and nothing works.  Any hints? I 
searched the web and found nothing. Give me a hint what I can tune. 

Thanks!

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Re: [Mailman-Users] qrunner restarts every 15 minutes

[Carl Zwanzig]

In a flurry of recycled electrons, Joern Allmers wrote:

> Mailman works great and everything could be fine if not it was restarting 
> every 15 minutes:

Perchange, is qrunner being run every 15 minutes in a cron job? Newer mailmans
just start qrunner once at boot time and it deals with it's own scheduling.

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[Mailman-Users] Help with installation on private virtual server

[Marc Mintz]

I need help installing MailMan on a linux private virtual server.  
Happy to pay for the help.


Sincerely,

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Re: [Mailman-Users] qrunner restarts every 15 minutes

[Joern Allmers]

Am Dienstag, 2. Mai 2006 21:54 schrieben Sie:
> In a flurry of recycled electrons, Joern Allmers wrote:
> > Mailman works great and everything could be fine if not it was restarting
> > every 15 minutes:
>
> Perchange, is qrunner being run every 15 minutes in a cron job? Newer
> mailmans just start qrunner once at boot time and it deals with it's own
> scheduling.

I don't think so. In cron.d theres no entry for it. Any idea why the qrunners 
are stopt?

Thanks

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[Mailman-Users] Parameters don't seem to take effect

[Steve Campbell]

I am basically trying to get a list set up to send individual emails to each
member subscribed to my list. I have this set for "Digest" mode. Every thing
works fine except the message goes out to all members in one email message.
I'm testing right now, so there are only two members.

I am new to Mailman and this list, but have tried the archives

I have read what I could find in the archives and set the following in my
mm_cfg.py, but this does not seem to matter:

SMTP_MAX_RCPTS = 1
OWNERS_CAN_ENABLE_PERSONALIZATION = yes
SMTP_MAX_SESSIONS_PER_CONNECTION = 1

I realize that the "OWNERS" line does not apply to digest mode, but can
anyone suggest a reason why the other two are in effect.

Thanks for any help.

Steve Campbell


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Re: [Mailman-Users] qrunner restarts every 15 minutes

[Carl Zwanzig]

In a flurry of recycled electrons, Joern Allmers wrote:
> > Perchange, is qrunner being run every 15 minutes in a cron job? Newer
> > mailmans just start qrunner once at boot time and it deals with it's own
> > scheduling.
> 
> I don't think so. In cron.d theres no entry for it. Any idea why the qrunners 
> are stopt?

Could be in /etc/crontab, /var/spool/cron/mailman, or some other place...
Pre 2.1 versions ran qrunner from cron.

In answer to the second question, you can only have one of each qrunner
at a time, so if you start a new master, it'll kill any others that it
sees.

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[Mailman-Users] mailman vs yahoogroups

[Ted Ernst]

I just joined this list.  If this question has already been addressed,
please point me to where I can find it (I couldn't find it in the archives).

I live in a small (9 people) housing co-op.  We've been using a yahoogroup
for about 2 years and have not only residents, but also some close friends
on the list.  We decided we really neeed two lists, one for just
owners/residents and one for announcements and/or low-traffic discussion
about events - this one for our friends.  So very small.

I suggested using mailman hosted by mayfirst.org and that was accepted.  We
now have two lists.  Problem is, it's not like yahoogroups.  I don't care,
but I need some info to back up my contention that it's better to be using
an open souce product we can partner on developing than be using "the man"
with ads and not ownership of our own stuff and such.

Is there anything like this, addressing the supposed reasons to stay with
yahoogroups instead of mailman?

Thanks!
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[Mailman-Users] Automated announcements

[Robert Seymour]

I publish 5 cartoons a week (M-F) at birdbreath.com. The cartoons are
posted based on the UNIX date, so each cartoon file  is named for a
pre-determined date - 20060502.png etc. ,

I would like to send out announcement emails M-F (in cron?) stating
something like "Check out todays cartoon at
http://birdbreath.com/images1/20060502.png"; with the dated file name
changing each day.

I am a member of MidPhase and they have Mail Master - according to
them a re-rolled Mailman. They suggested I contact you.

Does Mailman have the capability to do this? If so, where can I find
information on how to do this?

Thanks!


Robert
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Re: [Mailman-Users] qrunner restarts every 15 minutes

[Mark Sapiro]

Carl Zwanzig wrote:

>In a flurry of recycled electrons, Joern Allmers wrote:
>> 
>> I don't think so. In cron.d theres no entry for it. Any idea why the 
>> qrunners 
>> are stopt?
>
>In answer to the second question, you can only have one of each qrunner
>at a time, so if you start a new master, it'll kill any others that it
>sees.


It isn't that straightforward. See
.

In any case, I don't think that's the problem here.

Is there any more in the qrunner log than was in the original post
(e.g., messages from the qrunners indicating a received signal)? Is
there anything in Mailman's error log?

It is unlikely to be any kind of processing error as that would
normally affect at most one runner. I note that NewsRunner wasn't in
the log in the OP. Is it unaffected, or are you not running it?

It is most likely some external cron process or OS condition that is
stopping the runners, but it's difficult to say without more log info
from Mailman or the OS.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Parameters don't seem to take effect

[Mark Sapiro]

Steve Campbell wrote:

>I am basically trying to get a list set up to send individual emails to each
>member subscribed to my list. I have this set for "Digest" mode. Every thing
>works fine except the message goes out to all members in one email message.
>I'm testing right now, so there are only two members.


I think you are saying you want one recipient only per SMTP
transaction. Is that right? Are you not getting that? If not, how do
you know?


>I have read what I could find in the archives and set the following in my
>mm_cfg.py, but this does not seem to matter:
>
>SMTP_MAX_RCPTS = 1


This should limit you to one recipient per transaction. If that's what
you want, and you're not getting it, did you do 'mailmanctl restart'
after putting this in mm_cfg.py?


>OWNERS_CAN_ENABLE_PERSONALIZATION = yes
>SMTP_MAX_SESSIONS_PER_CONNECTION = 1


This makes Masilman disconnect from the SMTP server after each
transaction and reconnect for the next. It should be as large as the
SMTP server will allow. It affects only overhead. It has no effect on
number of recipients per transaction.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Automated announcements

[Mark Sapiro]

Robert Seymour wrote:
>
>I would like to send out announcement emails M-F (in cron?) stating
>something like "Check out todays cartoon at
>http://birdbreath.com/images1/20060502.png"; with the dated file name
>changing each day.
>
>I am a member of MidPhase and they have Mail Master - according to
>them a re-rolled Mailman. They suggested I contact you.
>
>Does Mailman have the capability to do this? If so, where can I find
>information on how to do this?


No. Mailman does not have the ability on it's own to send periodic
announcements automatically.

Why not just use cron in conjunction with a simple shell script to
create the message and send it to the Mail Master list?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman vs yahoogroups

[Brad Knowles]

At 9:46 PM -0500 2006-05-02, Ted Ernst wrote:

>  Is there anything like this, addressing the supposed reasons to stay with
>  yahoogroups instead of mailman?

From the Mailman side, the canonical answer is FAQ 1.26 at 
.

I can pretty much guarantee you that some of these things will 
never be integrated into Mailman.


Someone could certainly take Mailman and make it a component of a 
system like Yahoo!Groups, and then make that system available either 
as a freely available package or as a paid system, but that would be 
beyond the scope of Mailman itself.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Password Reminders Sent Incorrently

[MailList]

-Original Message-
From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 4:53 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; mailman-users@python.org
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Password Reminders Sent Incorrently

MailList wrote:
>
>We picked up that password reminders were sent to subscribers of our lists
>where the Password Reminder Option was set to OFF. What could be the cause
>of this erratic behavior ?


Is it possible that these members were receiving reminders from OTHER
lists on the same server?

>> It's not possible as I got some of the mails forwarded to me and we don't
>> have unique users subscribed to unique lists..
 

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[Mailman-Users] Accept non-members still being held for approval

[Alan]

Hi,
I want to add some non-members e-mails to accept non-members list so 
they can send mails to the list without being members.
But, after I put the e-mail in the list, all mails being sent from that 
address are being held for approval.
So, do I have to specify something else, or it is just the waz it should be?

Thanks
Alan
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